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Where are all the devs?

Will this phone end up with terrible development such as with the original epic?
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Maybe renaming it to the epic is hurting us, lmao
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locoboi187 said:
Will this phone end up with terrible development such as with the original epic?
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I didn't have that phone. Was it's community also ungrateful while feeling entitled to work done by others for free?

ioos said:
I didn't have that phone. Was it's community also ungrateful while feeling entitled to work done by others for free?
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Probably not, these are new age modders who think just because they have a certain device it should come with all bells and whistles that take a good 6 months to develope. Did I mention they want it now!!!
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Well, devs are staying behind because we are all starting to see how the game is going. Too many Android phones are coming out at once and money ain't coming any faster. I'm sure if people paid devs to come dev for the device, we'd have more devs...so if you want to pay for someone's E4GT, go right on ahead. If you don't want to, just wait it out. This phone is already pretty sweet and the problems we do have, a dev probably won't be able to fix those..so..yeah.
This phone is sick dude, just enjoy it and be happy that you don't own a device where you have to depend on the devs just to be able to get through the day.

Having it from release date, the OG Epic did NOT have terrible development. Just not the development some people wanted. And there were "some" people who were ungrateful and rude, like with any device. This one already has great developers, and we are slowly getting more. Be patient.

spitefulrain said:
Having it from release date, the OG Epic did NOT have terrible development. Just not the development some people wanted. And there were "some" people who were ungrateful and rude, like with any device. This one already has great developers, and we are slowly getting more. Be patient.
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The Epic scene was pretty good. A lot of people came from that Evo...smh, the Evo messed the whole game up if ya ask me. Now people willl sit around and say their phone is garbage if it doesn't have the same dev scene that the Evo had.
Little do most people know that the Evo was damn near the same device as the Desire, N1 and Dinc. So most of the reason why its scene was so great was because a dev from any one of those phones could just port their roms over and all they had to do was swap out the hardware files and the kernel. Other than those 2 things, everything was damn near exactly the same.

Yeah I think we just have to be patience
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I've seen a few well known devs from the HTC Evo post here, so I'm pretty optimistic.

Viperboy is coming. That's another developer for you!
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what do we really need here? cyanogen and miui and stock roms. that is asking alot but that would be epic. for now i am loving starburst. love asop but don't remove touchwiz launcher and widgets. just my opinion.

I had the First Epic and the Dev's there were GREAT. We may not have had as many as some phones like the Evo but the ones we had did great work and who needs 100 roms to choose from when the ones we had did the trick. We had some great Roms and Themes and the fixes came pretty fast.
I have not rooted this phone yet mainly because I have not felt the need. The only thing I am missing is WiFi Tether. I am sure when this LOS gets worked out and the devs get their hands on the original source we will see much more. I am grateful for anyone that helps make this phone better, but it is pretty dang good out of the box. The best I have ever had.

Where did u hear that from
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OG epic scene was great.... kinda started slowing down with the whole froyo debacle, because it was pretty well known sammy was already working on ginger.... so evsryone was waiting for the final, correct source.... still are i think... i gotta check... gf has my epic and id love to see a finished gb...

cordell12 said:
Probably not, these are new age modders who think just because they have a certain device it should come with all bells and whistles that take a good 6 months to develope. Did I mention they want it now!!!
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Now?? pffft what are you talking about? They want that **** out on launch day! wtf you slacking devs that dont get paid and do this all for free?? Get back in the sweatshop and do work that requires more thinking than a sweatshop worker in china but gets "paid"(donations) less! These devs should worship us and do what we tell them when we tell them! When a phone is released that very day we expect EVERY MOD imaginable, every "bell and whistle" and a choice of at least 10 roms and 10 kernels..
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Viperboy is coming. That's another developer for you!
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I cant wait until viper comes over! That will be the first custom rom I run on this phone.

ioos said:
I didn't have that phone. Was it's community also ungrateful while feeling entitled to work done by others for free?
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Haha right?!

i have been spoiled
evo had so much going on i miss flashing new roms,all i need is cyanogen 7 and miui and a good sense rom nothing else.i miss sense but love this phone,the launchers with sense themes have no souls to them.wish i new how to even start making or porting a rom myself sux been getting bored of touch wiz

manny1983nyc said:
evo had so much going on i miss flashing new roms,all i need is cyanogen 7 and miui and a good sense rom nothing else.i miss sense but love this phone,the launchers with sense themes have no souls to them.wish i new how to even start making or porting a rom myself sux been getting bored of touch wiz
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sense is pretty hard to get working on a non HTC phone. I dont think I've ever heard of a sense rom (that fully worked right) ported over to a non htc phone(at least that I know of). It's not impossible(from what I hear) but it is very very very difficult(so I hear)

locoboi187 said:
Will this phone end up with terrible development such as with the original epic?
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God I hope not, ****ing devs lol
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[Q] Two very important questions before upgrading...

Will Samsung release timely updates for this phone? Unlike the Vibrant.
Also, will Team Whiskey work on this phone?

1. Don't buy it based on promises
2. We don't even have root yet, and they aren't the best thing since sliced bread

donkilla said:
Will Samsung release timely updates for this phone? Unlike the Vibrant.
Also, will Team Whiskey work on this phone?
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Yeah, we can never go on promises, but I can say this. I am willing to bet my bottom dollar that Samsung won't leave us in the dark as they did before with the Vibrant. Hopefully Team Whiskey will help dev for this phone, but we don't know what he future hold. You have better luck contacting him and see if he will.
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we got the sources already
having the sources makes it that much easier to upgrade to anything else and root

Was the issue with the Vibrant the drivers?
And is Samsung going to cooperate better with the XDA community for developers to make roms?

donkilla said:
Was the issue with the Vibrant the drivers?
And is Samsung going to cooperate better with the XDA community for developers to make roms?
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I would like to think that Samsung would cooperate with XDA especially since they hired Cyanogen. If you check back then, Samsung actually leaked a million roms to the dev community. The issue with the Vibrant was that it used a file system called RFS which was a very slow file system. People would often joke and refer to the file system as REAL F*CKING SLOW. Samsung has now gained back their reputation with phones such as the Nexus S, Galaxy Nexus, GS2, etc. I doubt they'll mess up with the GS2 because not only is this their flagship phone, but they want to continue building the reputation that was once damaged.
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OuncE718 said:
I would like to think that Samsung would cooperate with XDA especially since they hired Cyanogen. If you check back then, Samsung actually leaked a million roms to the dev community. The issue with the Vibrant was that it used a file system called RFS which was a very slow file system. People would often joke and refer to the file system as REAL F*CKING SLOW. Samsung has now gained back their reputation with phones such as the Nexus S, Galaxy Nexus, GS2, etc. I doubt they'll mess up with the GS2 because not only is this their flagship phone, but they want to continue building the reputation that was once damaged.
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Let's hope you're right, I'm going to get mine today.

donkilla said:
Let's hope you're right, I'm going to get mine today.
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You'll definitely enjoy this phone.
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ET4G development

I'm not trying to be a jerk or one of those people who *****es and moans about stupid ****. I'm just wondering why we don't have an aosp kernel yet and why it just seems like development for this phone is lacking. I had an evo and it was so nice having so many options as far as roms and kernels and themes go. I just wonder if its ever going to happen? For this phone. And yes, I will be patient.

There is another tread just like this 6 spots down. Maybe post in that one?
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Why didn't you ask in the other 6 threads about this same topic? Also why not make one yourself? All the *****ing you are doing maybe its time for you to Learn.
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Usually when someone starts speaking with "I'm not trying to be a jerk" that is exactly what they end up doing. Lol
Disclaimer: This is a joke, no need to respond or get offended!
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What a tool.
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Musclehead. Hell yeah. .

And you dont have an evo killer. The evo is already dead, it's been out for over a year. Sprint stopped selling them.

I agree...lol

I think you'll be happy to know that Rootzwiki gave a CM dev an E4GT. Hopefully it won't be long!

So development is lacking because we haven't released what you want? Try making one yourself.. I have been trying to address current problems before moving on.. building an also kernel that continues to LoS is pretty pointless no? Maybe my development is lacking, but I have still released more actual improvements than most, and I don't even have the device..
By the way, EVO was a far more popular phone, and still took quite a while to get also running....
nickcash said:
I'm not trying to be a jerk or one of those people who *****es and moans about stupid ****. I'm just wondering why we don't have an aosp kernel yet and why it just seems like development for this phone is lacking. I had an evo and it was so nice having so many options as far as roms and kernels and themes go. I just wonder if its ever going to happen? For this phone. And yes, I will be patient.
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nickcash said:
And you dont have an evo killer. The evo is already dead, it's been out for over a year. Sprint stopped selling them.
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Your cool.
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nickcash said:
And you dont have an evo killer. The evo is already dead, it's been out for over a year. Sprint stopped selling them.
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Then why are they $99 on Sprints website right now?
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poppygt said:
Then why are they $99 on Sprints website right now?
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Lol. Busted!
But anyways. Its been a little over a month and the development that has happened so far is great and its only getting better.
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DianXin-OS on Samsung epic touch possible?

So while I just read about this new ROM, and while I also read that it's literally only three weeks old I'm sure not that many people have heard or seen it.It looks pretty cool and while most of the devs have there hands full between ICS , CM9, Miui I don't think anyone could ask for it in the near future.Just figured other people would be interested. Also curious if it would be possible to port it?
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/dianxin-os-a-unique-android-based-chinese-os/?utm_medium=referral&utm_source=pulsenews
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I actually Just submitted a thread about this OS. Eh oh well. It would be great to see it make its way to our community

Heads up .. 4.2 Update; one step closer

Found this article just now:
Samsung Galaxy S3 Android 4.2 Jelly Bean Update Gets Stamp Of Approval
http://www.autoomobile.com/news/samsung-galaxy-s3-android-42-jelly-bean-update-3/10011064/

Honestly, I remember back in the Epic 4G days when Samsung had the reputation that they did not support their devices, but it appears they've changed their attitude and now they're releasing updates like mad, even more efficiently than HTC is (at least for CDMA-based devices.)
If this is true, then the Samsung devs in charge of CDMA development will start porting it over to our devices. Perhaps we'll see RDFs in the next few days?

Very interesting... I'll be following this thread closely.
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Overstew said:
Honestly, I remember back in the Epic 4G days when Samsung had the reputation that they did not support their devices, but it appears they've changed their attitude and now they're releasing updates like mad, even more efficiently than HTC is (at least for CDMA-based devices.)
If this is true, then the Samsung devs in charge of CDMA development will start porting it over to our devices. Perhaps we'll see RDFs in the next few days?
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I had an Epic as well and it seemed like Samfirmware was our only hope. I share your sentiments and look forward to any changes Samsung is willing to make with regards to device updates.

I'm from the OG Epic as well (from its release to the s3 release); It is really refreshing to see them pushing out the updates for this phone!!

I too am from the OG Epic. People continuously blamed Samsung for the slow updates for it when in reality rdfs were being generated and test releases sent to Sprint almost daily and within weeks of the international update. I think the less intrusive touchwiz allows for faster updating. So hopefully we will see some rdfs reported soon.
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Also a fellow OG Epic user ... boy I miss that phone (still drooling over that keyboard), but also love my GSIII. Nice to have the OG Epic family reunited here. If Samsung releases a 4.2 update for the GSIII in the near future, I'll take back all the bad things I said about them

hah what are the chances that 4.2 gets released before the s4 marketing train comes rolling through town

jdelano said:
I'm from the OG Epic as well (from its release to the s3 release); It is really refreshing to see them pushing out the updates for this phone!!
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X2. Also, you see Samsung promo the crap out of this phone, unlike what they did with the OG Epic, so it seems that they're really behind this one.

offtohavasu said:
X2. Also, you see Samsung promo the crap out of this phone, unlike what they did with the OG Epic, so it seems that they're really behind this one.
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That's because this phone is available for all major carriers. The Epic was only for Sprint thus Samsung relied on Sprint to advertise who decided to push the Evo instead.
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Epic user also
I'm glad I stayed with Samsung
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I, for one, HATE updates.. haha
I spent um-teen plus hours making my rom and dont feel like doing it again..

strongsteve said:
I, for one, HATE updates.. haha
I spent um-teen plus hours making my rom and dont feel like doing it again..
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Actually the first thing I thought when I read that article was ... oh sweet ... damn Steve is gonna be mad. hehehe

strongsteve said:
I, for one, HATE updates.. haha
I spent um-teen plus hours making my rom and dont feel like doing it again..
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Hahaha! Looks like you are going to have some long nights ahead of you Steve
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"Reunions" like these make me miss the good ol' OG Epic threads...and the horribly timed updates
Having it ship with Éclair and not getting Froyo until half a year later. Then waiting for GB another 8 months...
*back on topic*
Sammy and the carriers (well atleast Sprint) have really come along way since...To be honest, they surprised me with the JB update. I hope they continue stride with 4.1.2 and/or 4.2 soon
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Can't wait! Super excited
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daniel4653 said:
Hahaha! Looks like you are going to have some long nights ahead of you Steve
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Naw.. I think I'm done. Can't do it again. I'm burnt out. Probably just wait for GS4.
odexed for efficiency, blue for beauty

strongsteve said:
Naw.. I think I'm done. Can't do it again. I'm burnt out. Probably just wait for GS4.
odexed for efficiency, blue for beauty
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Ohhh...I am sure you got one more in you Steve!
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jdelano said:
Found this article just now:
Samsung Galaxy S3 Android 4.2 Jelly Bean Update Gets Stamp Of Approval
http://www.autoomobile.com/news/samsung-galaxy-s3-android-42-jelly-bean-update-3/10011064/
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This is also supposed to fix the WiFi bug
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Cant wait for this update.
SamsungGalaxyFan said:
This is also supposed to fix the WiFi bug
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What was the wifi bug? Just curious because I've never run into issues with wifi.