or does the wifey need to buy a cheapo when she goes to the states next year?
Yes its quadband
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It would help if you say what model number/versions you are talking about. The Euro DZ (or just about any model DZ, I think) has the GSM bands to operate on the two major US GSM carriers, AT&T and T-Mobile. As long as your phone is not SIM locked, you will have voice and EDGE data. But you will not get 3G data.
redpoint73 said:
It would help if you say what model number/versions you are talking about. The Euro DZ (or just about any model DZ, I think) has the GSM bands to operate on the two major US GSM carriers, AT&T and T-Mobile. As long as your phone is not SIM locked, you will have voice and EDGE data. But you will not get 3G data.
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the bell canada DZ works on ATT 3g...so long as your sim unlocked..
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I know my US g2 got 3G (or 4G? HSDPA+) in Poland. I have US T-Mo G2 on AT&T with only EDGE. And it should work on either AT&T or T-Mobile.
jaszek said:
I know my US g2 got 3G (or 4G? HSDPA+) in Poland. I have US T-Mo G2 on AT&T with only EDGE. And it should work on either AT&T or T-Mobile.
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It won't get 3G on both. As you've said it'll either get 3G on AT&T or T-mobile.
The Bell (Canada) DZ will get AT&T 3G. Other models will get 3G on T-mo.
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It won't get 3G on both. As you've said it'll either get 3G on AT&T or T-mobile.
The Bell (Canada) DZ will get AT&T 3G. Other models will get 3G on T-mo.
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correct, G2 on tmo, dz on ATT.
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hi everybody .. i just got HTC Desire for my wife and we have this phone for 2 days now .The phone don't read 3G and when i checked the network info the phone read EDGE and when i checked my nexus at same time i seen the network UMTS . so what i can do make this desire read 3G
Check your carrier's APN setting.
Menu->Settings->Wireless & networks->Mobile Network Settings->Access Point Names
You are on T-Mobile USA right?
Sorry but there is NO version of HTC Desire that is compatible with T-Mobile USA 3G network. No, T-Mobile in Europe does not use the same 3G bands for 3G as T-Mobile USA, so even if the phone was sold with a T-Mobile (Europe) logo on it it won't have 3G in the US.
Currently there are TWO hardware versions of the HTC Desire. The first one, A8181, is the one that is sold in Europe and Asia, and this one does not have 3G in the US. The second one, A8183, is sold in Australia by the carrier Telstra. This version is compatible with AT&T's 3G network in most part of the US, but it is not compatible with T-Mobile USA's 3G network.
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You are on T-Mobile USA right?
Sorry but there is NO version of HTC Desire that is compatible with T-Mobile USA 3G network. No, T-Mobile in Europe does not use the same 3G bands for 3G as T-Mobile USA, so even if the phone was sold with a T-Mobile (Europe) logo on it it won't have 3G in the US.
Currently there are TWO hardware versions of the HTC Desire. The first one, A8181, is the one that is sold in Europe and Asia, and this one does not have 3G in the US. The second one, A8183, is sold in Australia by the carrier Telstra. This version is compatible with AT&T's 3G network in most part of the US, but it is not compatible with T-Mobile USA's 3G network.
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Yeah .. i am T-Mobile US
and my phone is the first one A8181 i bought it from UK . Anyways this mean NO DESIRE work 3G in USA . Thats sucks
NICEGYPT said:
Yeah .. i am T-Mobile US
and my phone is the first one A8181 i bought it from UK . Anyways this mean NO DESIRE work 3G in USA . Thats sucks
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There is, as I said above, the A8183. It works only with AT&T's 3G though.
i have the A8183 And works fine on at&t 3g i will sell if you are interested or anyone for that matter..
$550
NICEGYPT said:
Yeah .. i am T-Mobile US
and my phone is the first one A8181 i bought it from UK . Anyways this mean NO DESIRE work 3G in USA . Thats sucks
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You will find that very, very few "worldwide" GSM phones will work with T-Mobile US's 3G due to the split 1700/2100 AWS band that TMo US uses.
Ironically though, you can take a TMo US phone out of the US and it will happily talk 3G to most other non-US GSM networks.
Regards,
Dave
foxmeister said:
You will find that very, very few "worldwide" GSM phones will work with T-Mobile US's 3G due to the split 1700/2100 AWS band that TMo US uses.
Ironically though, you can take a TMo US phone out of the US and it will happily talk 3G to most other non-US GSM networks.
Regards,
Dave
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Most Europe/Asian carriers only use 2100 band for 3G, so as long as your phone supports that band (most GSM phones do) you can get 3G on their network.
T-Mobile USA on the other hand, requires BOTH 1700 & 2100 bands support in order for your phone to get 3G on their network. For a long time, T-Mobile USA was the ONLY carrier in the world that use 1700 band for 3G, and therefore if a phone was not carried by T-Mobile USA it didn't have 1700 3G band support (it doesn't need to because no other carrier in the world used it). Well, lately a new Canadian wireless carrier, Wind, also employs the 1700 & 2100 bands for their 3G network... so the chance of getting more phones to support these 3G bands has slightly increased. Slightly, because Wind is a new and small carrier...
I apologize if a thread like this already exists, I couldn't find it.
I'm planning on purchasing the Telus Desire with 850/1900Mhz 3G for use on AT&T once it comes out. However, I want to confirm that I can use the "dumbphone" unlimited data plan (which is $15 or $10 for families) instead of the regular, overpriced, capped smartphone plans. I do this currently on my Motorola Milestone so I want to make sure it works okay with the Desire. Can anyone on AT&T confirm this for me?
... nobody on AT&T will be able to confirm this with you because not even Canadians have this phone yet. But if they don't know the Milestone IMEI they probably won't know the Telus Desire IMEI.
Right, I know it's not out yet but I was more looking for someone with the regular Desire on AT&T who could tell me. (I'm figuring AT&T will treat all Desires the same way)
The imei is not registered with ATT. Therefore you can have as I do a 10 or 15 dollar data for quick messaging phones and standard flips.
You will have 3g wherever there is 850 mhz 3g. TElstra desire does not have 1900 mhz 3g, but ATT will have the entire network on 850 mhz 3g by end of the year.
What state are you in?
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mayad79 said:
The imei is not registered with ATT. Therefore you can have as I do a 10 or 15 dollar data for quick messaging phones and standard flips.
You will have 3g wherever there is 850 mhz 3g. TElstra desire does not have 1900 mhz 3g, but ATT will have the entire network on 850 mhz 3g by end of the year.
What state are you in?
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Correct, the Telstra (Australia) Desire is UMTS 850/2100. But the upcoming Telus (Canada) Desire is UMTS 850/1900.
Thanks for the info, I'm glad to hear that. I'm probably going to wait for the Telus model so I get full 850/1900 and I think I like the idea of the SLCD better than the AMOLED for outdoor use. And the off-contract price for the Telus Desire is rumored to be only $450, hopefully that's true Now they just need to launch the darn thing!
cmstlist said:
... nobody on AT&T will be able to confirm this with you because not even Canadians have this phone yet. But if they don't know the Milestone IMEI they probably won't know the Telus Desire IMEI.
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How did AT&T get the Nexus ONE IMEIs if they don't carry it. Is HTC handling them over?...
I assume the N1 is a special case... and it was released in the US.
The regular Desire won't work on 3g in the US uses different frequencies for 3g, so you have to wait for the North American version to come out. That's why people are saying that no one has one on AT&T
Bomaster said:
The regular Desire won't work on 3g in the US uses different frequencies for 3g, so you have to wait for the North American version to come out. That's why people are saying that no one has one on AT&T
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The Telus Desire is already out and that *is* the North American version.
Hello fellas. I've been with my G2 for about a month now, awesome phone, but the thing is I only can use EDGE network and not 3G.
Since my carrier here in Venezuela is Movistar, which operates in these bands: 850, 1900 Mhz.
Is there anyway to make my T-Mobile G2 work with my local carrier? Thanks in advance for the help.
Yes --- check out the HUGE APN thread here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2819321&
you just need to find the right apn for your area...
No, the T-Mobile G2 is not compatible with those UMTS bands (it only uses 1700/2100). If you wanted 3G to work, you would need to get the Desire Z NAM instead (i.e., the Bell Canada version). Probably too late since you already have the phone, but maybe you can sell your G2 and pick up one of those instead?
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No, the T-Mobile G2 is not compatible with those UMTS bands (it only uses 1700/2100). If you wanted 3G to work, you would need to get the Desire Z NAM instead (i.e., the Bell Canada version). Probably too late since you already have the phone, but maybe you can sell your G2 and pick up one of those instead?
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Yep, he's right. The OP bought the wrong version.
ianmcquinn said:
No, the T-Mobile G2 is not compatible with those UMTS bands (it only uses 1700/2100). If you wanted 3G to work, you would need to get the Desire Z NAM instead (i.e., the Bell Canada version). Probably too late since you already have the phone, but maybe you can sell your G2 and pick up one of those instead?
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Yes, I made some research and the only way I can enjoy 3G is if I get the DZ Us Version...
I mostly blame the carriers in this POS country, they're so behind in technology.
Okay, so the G2 can have at&t, but how about cricket?
cricket is like Verizon, so no because cricket doesn't support sim cards.
isaac970 said:
cricket is like Verizon, so no because cricket doesn't support sim cards.
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You couldn't hook it up via phone? Like, forget the simcard? Damn
No, you can't. Cricket is a CDMA network. The G2 does not even have the right type of radio hardware to work on CDMA.
Did you buy one already or something?
OP has a lot of posts on this (G2) forum. So my guess he presently has the G2 and is thinking of switching carriers.
The G2 will only work on GSM networks, and might not get 3G on many carriers besides T-Mob (only EDGE).
If you want to go pre-paid with a G2 I think your best bet is Walmart Family Mobile, they are on T-Mobile's network so you should be able to get 3G speeds.
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OP has a lot of posts on this (G2) forum. So my guess he presently has the G2 and is thinking of switching carriers.
The G2 will only work on GSM networks, and might not get 3G on many carriers besides T-Mob (only EDGE).
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Bingo. Cricket is CDMA. T-mo and att are GSM. No go bro.
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If i unlock my G2 using gfree or anyother method will i still have my 3G when i switch it to AT&T from T-Mobile? does anyone know of any problems with signal and what not when it gets unlocked? thanks.
Army_Spec_Ops said:
If i unlock my G2 using gfree or anyother method will i still have my 3G when i switch it to AT&T from T-Mobile? does anyone know of any problems with signal and what not when it gets unlocked? thanks.
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You will only be to access 2G/edge data speeds, no 3G connectivity since AT&T uses different 3G bands.. assuming you are currently using a T-Mobile G2 with the carrier T-Mobile... :?
You won't have any signal issues unless AT&T has horrible coverage where you live.
you will not change anything hardware related... you just unlock/root your phone which allows you to modify hardware and software related things. But if you don't touch the antenna software then nothing will change
@CaliBoyPhillip; when I was in the states my phone switched from AT&T and T-Mobile all the time (roaming) and still had 3g reception, the phone supports most frequencies.
no im currently using a Aria with AT&T but im getting the G2 or the G2X tomorrow. and ok so i wont lose my 3G?
Army_Spec_Ops said:
no im currently using a Aria with AT&T but im getting the G2 or the G2X tomorrow. and ok so i wont lose my 3G?
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G2x will work with At&ts 3g/4g. As for G2 I was told it doesn't support the 3g/4g from at&t. Remember the buy out isn't final yet.
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you will not change anything hardware related... you just unlock/root your phone which allows you to modify hardware and software related things. But if you don't touch the antenna software then nothing will change
@CaliBoyPhillip; when I was in the states my phone switched from AT&T and T-Mobile all the time (roaming) and still had 3g reception, the phone supports most frequencies.
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hmmm Interesting... it was prob due to the reason that you were roaming but if he uses an AT&T SIM on his SIM unlocked G2 from T-Mobile, he won't have 3G access I think... The G2 runs on 850/900/1800/1900 for edge and 1700/2100 radio for 3G data, meanwhile AT&T operates on 850/1900 for EDGE and 850/1900 for 3G.... not compatible !
EDIT: source for the bands ATT uses for 3G gotten from here.. http://www.att.com/gen/press-room?pid=14003
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hmmm Interesting... it was prob due to the reason that you were roaming but if he uses an AT&T SIM on his SIM unlocked G2 from T-Mobile, he won't have 3G access I think... The G2 runs on 850/900/1800/1900 for edge and 1700/2100 radio for 3G data, meanwhile AT&T operates on 850/1900 for EDGE and 850/1900 for 3G.... not compatible !
EDIT: source for the bands ATT uses for 3G gotten from here.. http://www.att.com/gen/press-room?pid=14003
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THis is correct. The G2 WILL NOT work with ATT 3G. If you want 3G you need to purchase the NAM (North American Model) of the Desire Z. It is sold in Canada on the Bell Network. You can find it online unlocked and unbranded and it WILL work on ATT no problem. It is going to cost you though, 450-550 depending where you get it.
Same reason iphone won't connect to tmobile 3g...amazing people still don't understand this
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ok so stupid question but im gonna ask it anyways lol is there anything that i can do to make it work with 3G if i dont want to buy the desire z?
Not unless you know how and which chipset to replace on the board. Ie not possible.
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Army_Spec_Ops said:
ok so stupid question but im gonna ask it anyways lol is there anything that i can do to make it work with 3G if i dont want to buy the desire z?
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Nope, the phone's hardware is what decides what bands it can use.
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Get a desire Z from rodgers Canada the 3g bands are the same
To bad radio isn't software
It's to bad that phones don't have the radio frequencies programmable in software (much like an fm radio). Is that even possible?