I apologize if a thread like this already exists, I couldn't find it.
I'm planning on purchasing the Telus Desire with 850/1900Mhz 3G for use on AT&T once it comes out. However, I want to confirm that I can use the "dumbphone" unlimited data plan (which is $15 or $10 for families) instead of the regular, overpriced, capped smartphone plans. I do this currently on my Motorola Milestone so I want to make sure it works okay with the Desire. Can anyone on AT&T confirm this for me?
... nobody on AT&T will be able to confirm this with you because not even Canadians have this phone yet. But if they don't know the Milestone IMEI they probably won't know the Telus Desire IMEI.
Right, I know it's not out yet but I was more looking for someone with the regular Desire on AT&T who could tell me. (I'm figuring AT&T will treat all Desires the same way)
The imei is not registered with ATT. Therefore you can have as I do a 10 or 15 dollar data for quick messaging phones and standard flips.
You will have 3g wherever there is 850 mhz 3g. TElstra desire does not have 1900 mhz 3g, but ATT will have the entire network on 850 mhz 3g by end of the year.
What state are you in?
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mayad79 said:
The imei is not registered with ATT. Therefore you can have as I do a 10 or 15 dollar data for quick messaging phones and standard flips.
You will have 3g wherever there is 850 mhz 3g. TElstra desire does not have 1900 mhz 3g, but ATT will have the entire network on 850 mhz 3g by end of the year.
What state are you in?
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Correct, the Telstra (Australia) Desire is UMTS 850/2100. But the upcoming Telus (Canada) Desire is UMTS 850/1900.
Thanks for the info, I'm glad to hear that. I'm probably going to wait for the Telus model so I get full 850/1900 and I think I like the idea of the SLCD better than the AMOLED for outdoor use. And the off-contract price for the Telus Desire is rumored to be only $450, hopefully that's true Now they just need to launch the darn thing!
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... nobody on AT&T will be able to confirm this with you because not even Canadians have this phone yet. But if they don't know the Milestone IMEI they probably won't know the Telus Desire IMEI.
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How did AT&T get the Nexus ONE IMEIs if they don't carry it. Is HTC handling them over?...
I assume the N1 is a special case... and it was released in the US.
The regular Desire won't work on 3g in the US uses different frequencies for 3g, so you have to wait for the North American version to come out. That's why people are saying that no one has one on AT&T
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The regular Desire won't work on 3g in the US uses different frequencies for 3g, so you have to wait for the North American version to come out. That's why people are saying that no one has one on AT&T
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The Telus Desire is already out and that *is* the North American version.
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I've been thinking about getting this unlocked model that is compatible with AT&T 3G. I was wondering if anyone here has done this, and is there a way to get a sort "US-ified" version of the official HTC ROM that can receive OTA updates.
Thanks.
i'm currently using the A8183 in Canada on the Rogers network, which uses the same freq as AT&T for 3g, works great for me. however, if you wait prob a month or so (or maybe even sooner) Telus/Bell will release a NAM of the Desire, they also use the same freq for 3g (Bell, Telus, Fido, Rogers, and AT&T all use 850/1900 for 3g)
i'm using an A8183 (Telstra) HTC Desire on AT&T... in my opinion, you won't get a US-type ROM without rooting and installing one of the custom ROMs... i'm using the DJDroid Froyo w/Sense ROM and have not had any problems. personally, i don't worry about OTA updates because i'll get them on xda first.
I too have an a8183 on at&t. The only problem is that at&t does operate on 1900 mhz for 3g, but 850 mhz will not completely fallout till the end of the 2010. So If you live in nc, ga, sc, or va . The southeast market. You won't have the 3g because they currently run 1900 mhz 3g. I can still stream music on edge pulling 100 kbs up and down.
Patience is a virtue and locally in NC I have seen an internal ATT map showing many cell site upgrades complete, but they have not switched it on yet for 850mhz.
Latest news is for Atlanta and Manhattan switched on.
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Thanks guys. I think what I'm going to do is wait and see if AT&T comes out with their own version of the Desire this month, like has been rumored.
At&t will not get the desire. I am an employee and waited and waited. We may get the rumored dual core Qualcomm since it was just delivered to HTC and the incredible went to Verizon. So we are next for the bigger one.
There is a Samsung coming out Sunday, but I just love the support for HTC with xda. You will have 850mhz umts by the end of the year if you live in a 3g area.
What state are you in?
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At&t will not get the desire. I am an employee and waited and waited. We may get the rumored dual core Qualcomm since it was just delivered to HTC and the incredible went to Verizon. So we are next for the bigger one.
There is a Samsung coming out Sunday, but I just love the support for HTC with xda. You will have 850mhz umts by the end of the year if you live in a 3g area.
What state are you in?
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I think I may still wait to see what AT&T comes out with from HTC, even if it isn't the Desire. The new Samsung Galaxy S phone on AT&T looks nice, except for the fact that it doesn't have a camera flash. That's a big omission in my opinion.
I'm in Connecticut, where we already have 850 mhz.
Go for it , because gingerbread 3.0 will be a whole new class of devices. Maybe even dedicated graphics cards. But thats about a year away.
Plus the imei is not registered with ATT so you can get away with a 15 dollar data plan. Dude you got 850mhz. Shazam......
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it's probably a good idea to wait. i got an a8183 a couple months ago, i love it but the only reason i got it was because my trusty tilt running eclair was run over and for some reason i didn't want to get a nexus (which is probably what i should have gotten). i was banking on the tilt lasting about another year so i could get on the dual core wagon but no dice. don't get me wrong, i love my desire but with all the cool guy stuff just over the horizon i wish at&t would have released the aria a couple months earlier, so i could have bought a less expensive phone to hold me over til the new stuff came out.
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Go for it , because gingerbread 3.0 will be a whole new class of devices. Maybe even dedicated graphics cards. But thats about a year away.
Plus the imei is not registered with ATT so you can get away with a 15 dollar data plan. Dude you got 850mhz. Shazam......
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I see that Telus just announced they're getting the Desire soon, which will probably run on 850mhz and 1900mhz. So, I'll see what AT&T does and if nothing and the Telus version comes out, I'll get that one.
I live in North Carolina. How can you tell if they are using the 1900 or 850 band for 3g? I found someone selling the HTC Desire for $500/shipped and was going to get it until I saw this thread. Didn't know if there is a way to find out where AT&T had gone to 850 for 3G bands.
RTP area here and we are definitely on 1900 mhz, and will be strictly 850 mhz by the end of the year. Edge is pulling about 100 kbs up and down.
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Hey everyone, i live in brazil and in usa(orlando).
I'm trying to configure my HTc Desire and i can't get 3G connection, only EDGE,
Anyone know if it's possible get 3g connection with HTC DESIRE on AT&T?
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Hey everyone, i live in brazil and in usa(orlando).
I'm trying to configure my HTc Desire and i can't get 3G connection, only EDGE,
Anyone know if it's possible get 3g connection with HTC DESIRE on AT&T?
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Depends what HTC Desire you have. Some can only get certain types of 3G with certain Desires.
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Depends what HTC Desire you have. Some can only get certain types of 3G with certain Desires.
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What desire works with 3g at&t?
And how can i know where is model of my desire?
Thanks.
brenopoubel said:
What desire works with 3g at&t?
And how can i know where is model of my desire?
Thanks.
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Well, there is 2 models of Desire as far as I know; the A8181 (Not AT&T 3G compatible) and the A8183 (Telstra version, compatible with AT&T 3G). If your Desire isn't working with AT&T, then chances are it's an A8181.
Sent from my HTC Desire running LeeDROID T-Mod 2.2e with Tapatalk.
Remove your battery and on the phone lists the model number next to the imei. A8183 is what you need outside of the southeast market until 2011.
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There appear to be 3 models of the 'classic' Desire:
A8181 - Euro version with 900mhz/2100mhz UMTS/WCDMA
A8182 - North American version with SLCD screen and 850mhz/1900mhz UMTS/WCDMA
A8183 - North American / Australian version with AMOLED screen and 850mhz/1900mhz UMTS/WCDMA
Hope that helps!
I'm using a htc desire A8183 in Colombia, and it works beautifully with excellent 3G network speed of navigation and a month ago I got the ota update for Android 2.2 Froy. I'm really happy with the phone
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There appear to be 3 models of the 'classic' Desire:
A8181 - Euro version with 900mhz/2100mhz UMTS/WCDMA
A8182 - North American version with SLCD screen and 850mhz/1900mhz UMTS/WCDMA
A8183 - North American / Australian version with AMOLED screen and 850mhz/1900mhz UMTS/WCDMA
Hope that helps!
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Actually, all the A8183's in Australia being sold have SLCD screens, not AMOLED.
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I'm moving to the U.S. (california if that matters) in a couple of weeks and it's time for me to buy a desire. Being from Sweden I'm used to having great 3g service and use it well. What happens if i buy the phone here (not a U.S. specific model) and bring it overseas? Will 3g work? If so, can I choose from any carrier?
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I'm moving to the U.S. (california if that matters) in a couple of weeks and it's time for me to buy a desire. Being from Sweden I'm used to having great 3g service and use it well. What happens if i buy the phone here (not a U.S. specific model) and bring it overseas? Will 3g work? If so, can I choose from any carrier?
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No it won't - a European Desire won't give you 3G on any US Network.
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Dave
Woppe said:
I'm moving to the U.S. (california if that matters) in a couple of weeks and it's time for me to buy a desire. Being from Sweden I'm used to having great 3g service and use it well. What happens if i buy the phone here (not a U.S. specific model) and bring it overseas? Will 3g work? If so, can I choose from any carrier?
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it all depends on which carrier you use. I have ATT and I bought my Telstra (made for AUZ) that uses the same band for 3g as ATT does and I get great 3g in SO CAL.
if you buy one in Sweden it will not work on 3g here. You can buy one from US Cellular and it will work here but they don't have that great of coverage. You can buy a EVO from Sprint, but you won't have a sim card.
If you buy a Telstra for the US it will work in Sweden (not sure about 3g) but you will have 3g in US on ATT when you get here. I bought my from here
Thank you, that was helpful information!
Is a Desire using the 850MHz band what I need?
Woppe said:
Thank you, that was helpful information!
Is a Desire using the 850MHz band what I need?
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yes, the 850 will work on ATT 3g
I'm going to Florida on holiday next year. I intended on buying a prepaid sim for my Desire (from Orange, debranded and unlocked). I did intend using 3G if it were available but after reading some of these posts I'm now unsure this will work.
Much appreciated if anyone could give me any advice.
Many thanks.
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I'm going to Florida on holiday next year. I intended on buying a prepaid sim for my Desire (from Orange, debranded and unlocked). I did intend using 3G if it were available but after reading some of these posts I'm now unsure this will work.
Much appreciated if anyone could give me any advice.
Many thanks.
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if you have an EUR desire it will not work on 3g in the US, it has different bands. it will work for Edge. If the phone's bandwidth (networks) don't match the carrier's it does not matter what sim card you have. Most EUR world phone's will work in US but just not on 3g, it must be same bandwidth.
if you must have 3g for your hoilday then you are better buying a prepaid phone, but that won't be a Desire
Thanks for explanation, very helpful.
Hi!
Type *#*#4636#*#* in dial pad, you will get to a screen where some information and hidden settings placed in; then tap on the first item which is "telephone information", and there press "menu" button, here in the android menu the first item is "select radio-band"! when you choose this menu option you will see a list of GSM/UMTS radio-band alternatives; Automatic, EURO, USA, JAPAN, AUS, AUS2 bands"
Well I'm not expert on this particular issue, just wondering what these radio-band options are for(?) Maybe you can change your Desire's radio band to USA band and try if it works in the USA (appreciate if you supply feedback whether or not it really works)
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You can't change bands that's hardware related, its cheaper to buy a TELUS desire, it has 850, 1900 bands
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htc fan89 said:
You can't change bands that's hardware related, its cheaper to buy a TELUS desire, it has 850, 1900 bands
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Unfortunately when the Telus Desire goes back to Sweden, it won't have 3G.
The US Cellular Desire won't work in Sweden at all since there's no CDMA carrier.
If it weren't so hard now to get a Nexus One I'd suggest that to you. Both version support Euro 3G and you'd use it on AT&T or T-Mobile in the US depending on which version you acquire.
The problem is, as far as I know, there are no tri-band 3G HTC Desires. There is 850/1900 (Telus), 850/2100 (Telstra) and 900/2100 (Euro). So Telstra is the only one that gives you some compromise of 3G on both continents.
On the other hand I'm pretty sure all the GSM North American Samsung Galaxy S phones (Bell Vibrant, AT&T Captivate, T-Mobile Vibrant) support the Euro 2100 band.
Hey Guys,
So I was trying to think, but I couldn't remember which carrier it was, but I'm almost positive that one of the Australian carriers uses the same 3g bands (HSDPA 850 and 1900) that AT&T uses, meaning you could import one of the phones heading toward that carrier in australia and use it on AT&T. I was thinking about doing this for WP7, but i completely forgot what carrier it is.
Does anyone know?
Telstra.
I've used a Telstra-branded HD2 and Desire (Android) on AT&T in the US, no problem.
I'm hoping Telstra picks up the Desire HD and the HD7 as well...because AT&T's WP7 phones are kinda sorry (nothing > 3.8").
It's Telstra. Only the 850 band is supported. I have an Australian 9193 HD2 and it works fine on At&t. I guess it depends if your area has 850 band nearby.
FYI their HD7 won't be out till next year.
http://www.istartedsomething.com/20101012/australian-pricing-options-for-windows-phone-7/
Are you guys sure? I was looking at the Mozart page on Telstra and it's doesn't say that the 850 hsdpa band is supported.
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsphone/en-au/buy/7/phones.aspx#detail=1573&filter=166
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Telstra.
I've used a Telstra-branded HD2 and Desire (Android) on AT&T in the US, no problem.
I'm hoping Telstra picks up the Desire HD and the HD7 as well...because AT&T's WP7 phones are kinda sorry (nothing > 3.8").
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The Focus is 4". Idk if you were just talking about HTC or not
http://exchange.telstra.com.au/2010/10/12/windows-phone-7-a-new-challenger-arrives/
This says it is 850 band here
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http://exchange.telstra.com.au/2010/10/12/windows-phone-7-a-new-challenger-arrives/
This says it is 850 band here
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Thanks! HTC & Microsoft must be using the global specs. So basically what this means is Mozart and HD7 for AT&T!! I'm pumped as hell now
Will hopefully have a Telstra one in the next week or two, will confirm when I have it.
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Will hopefully have a Telstra one in the next week or two, will confirm when I have it.
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Which one are you getting? The Mozart? I'm stuck between the Surround directly from AT&T or waiting for the HD7 on Telstra. I just have no idea when it's actually going to come out...
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Which one are you getting? The Mozart? I'm stuck between the Surround directly from AT&T or waiting for the HD7 on Telstra. I just have no idea when it's actually going to come out...
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I'm having this same predicament also. Though I can afford it, getting an HD7 through telstra will be around $800 or more...whereas I could just get the surround for retail value since I am not extending my contract with ATT.
I have my Mozart
WP7 is very different there is no way, that I can find, to look at the band it is using.
It is very fast and I'm liking it.
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I have my Mozart
WP7 is very different there is no way, that I can find, to look at the band it is using.
It is very fast and I'm liking it.
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It can only use the 850mhz band and 2100mhz. If you want NextG you'll need the 850mhz band (AT&T's). I can guarantee the Telstra HTC Mozart uses that.
Any updates on HD7 on At&t? Perhaps an unbranded one or tmobile. Data and 3g?
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It can only use the 850mhz band and 2100mhz. If you want NextG you'll need the 850mhz band (AT&T's). I can guarantee the Telstra HTC Mozart uses that.
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Above is 100% true
850MHz & 2100MHz at minimum.
Optus uses 900MHz and 2100MHz
Unsure about the other carriers, but its likely 900/2100 also (i think Telstra is the odd one out here)
Sorry for revive the old thead; buy if someone is looking for a at&t-compatible device, (with UMTS850/1900), more than at&t "native" devices; please check:
http://bit.ly/mejores_equipos_latinoamerica
Best regards
Hi guys, I'm currently in Europe right now, I have with me both my brand new TMO GS2 (I had TMO unlock it prior to my trip) but I also brought with me my trusty old TMO HTC G2 as a back-up phone.
I purchased a prepaid sim card here. Sim card already has the APN setting pre-loaded. When I pop it into my G2 I get full HSPA signal and getting 3 mb/s download on SpeedTest, but when I pop the same sim into my TM GS2, it only picks up EDGE with speeds of 200 kb/s download.
I did the "connect to WCDMA only" in the mobile networks setting and then I get no data at all, only phone signal.
I'm baffled since both phones has the same HSPA bands (HSDPA 850 / 1700 / 2100) actually the G2 doesn't even have the 850Mhz band.
Anyone have an idea whats happening and how I can get it to connect to HSPA? I'm here for a month and would really like to use my phone at full speed.
THANKS!
hmmm...That's really weird. What's the SIM card carrier?
ungarisch said:
Hi guys, I'm currently in Europe right now, I have with me both my brand new TMO GS2 (I had TMO unlock it prior to my trip) but I also brought with me my trusty old TMO HTC G2 as a back-up phone.
I purchased a prepaid sim card here. Sim card already has the APN setting pre-loaded. When I pop it into my G2 I get full HSPA signal and getting 3 mb/s download on SpeedTest, but when I pop the same sim into my TM GS2, it only picks up EDGE with speeds of 200 kb/s download.
I did the "connect to WCDMA only" in the mobile networks setting and then I get no data at all, only phone signal.
I'm baffled since both phones has the same HSPA bands (HSDPA 850 / 1700 / 2100) actually the G2 doesn't even have the 850Mhz band.
Anyone have an idea whats happening and how I can get it to connect to HSPA? I'm here for a month and would really like to use my phone at full speed.
THANKS!
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Contact samsung or tmobile
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Contact samsung or tmobile
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TMO customer service has gone to **** over the last year, ever since they moved the call center to the Philippines, its just a bunch of under qualified and under educated clown working there. Last time I called in a tech told me to switch off my phone for 2 hours and when I turned it back on it would work. Seriously?
Anyways..
Orange, Romania is the Mobile Operator, which I'm pretty sure runs 3G on UMTS2100, which this phone has, and so does my HTC G2
My phone currently is running on the de-CIQ'd stock ROM that I got from the developer forum.
I assume the roms has the stock kernel and radio in it. Does the kernel or radio control mobile data? Could switching kernels or radios possibly solve this?
This is kind of a big deal no? I'm sure I'm not the only person that would like to use 3G overseas!
see here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orange_Romania
3G only on 900 Mhz or 2100 Mhz
so maybe the area you were in, did not have the 2100 Mhz tower, and only the 900 Mhz towers
AllGamer said:
see here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orange_Romania
3G only on 900 Mhz or 2100 Mhz
so maybe the area you were in, did not have the 2100 Mhz tower, and only the 900 Mhz towers
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Agreed this is most likely. 2100 is NEWER in most GSM countries.
I don't get any outsourced customer service. You're likely 1) Prepaid/Flexpay 2) calling in too much 3) showing out on the phone with the reps
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Agreed this is most likely. 2100 is NEWER in most GSM countries.
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but then I dont understand why my HTC G2 gets 3G?? would it have the 900mhz then even tho its not published?
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I don't get any outsourced customer service. You're likely 1) Prepaid/Flexpay 2) calling in too much 3) showing out on the phone with the reps
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I switched to Monthly4G service as ATT&T insurance...
This can only mean one thing then, the GSII was never supposed to work in europe, and that the HTC G2 and the HTC Desire Z have the same internals and are triband 900/1700/2100 phones.
http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=3518&idPhone2=3421
Hi everybody, I am going to live in the US for a semester and I want an american number. I found the possibility of buying a Sim Card on T-Mobile and use it with my unlocked phone. The problem is that my phone does not appear in the list of compatible phones. My phone is HTC Desire (Bravo), European model. In the box it appears the following: GSM/GPRS/EDGE 850/900/1800/1900 and HDSPA/WCDMA 900/2100.
Will I get 3G? I've talked to several operators, each one tells me a different thing. There was even one who asked for my IMEI and told me 3G would work 100% sure. Others tell me that I won't only get EDGE speed.
Who can clarify this? It is REALLY important. I LOVE my cellphone, I don't want one of those prepaid phones that are crap, I'd only buy another phone if it would be better than mine, but they are really expensive and it has no sense to buy a cellphone for 4 months when I have one cellphone that I love.
WHAT CAN I DO? I will use data on a daily basis to connect with my family overseas!
Most of US carriers use 850 and 1900MHz for GSM and 1700 and 1900 for HSPA and WCDMA, so I think you won't have luck with 3G, but the rest will do perfectly.
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