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maps and other apps keep launching in the background?!

Im puzzled why maps and other apps keep autostarting in the background?
and eat battery... maps alone can eat up to 10% of my battery in the duration of a day, even if I dont use it...

kurgandk said:
Im puzzled why maps and other apps keep autostarting in the background?
and eat battery... maps alone can eat up to 10% of my battery in the duration of a day, even if I dont use it...
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Get a task killer app and set it to always kill maps, and set a schedule for pruning (like every 30 mins). It's not supposed to start by itself. If you haven't rooted/flashed a custom ROM on it, call HTC. If you have, unroot and go back to stock for a day and see if the problem persists. If it doesn't, it's the ROM's fault.

its not rooted, so if I understand you correctly its a bug?

kurgandk said:
its not rooted, so if I understand you correctly its a bug?
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Either a software bug or an application issue. Have you reset to factory settings (full wipe)?

no not yet..

how much does a 'full wipe' .... 'wipe'?

kurgandk said:
how much does a 'full wipe' .... 'wipe'?
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I'm sorry, but that is hilarious.

kurgandk said:
how much does a 'full wipe' .... 'wipe'?
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About as much as 2 packs of Kleenex.
Okay, serious answer. All data on the phone, but not SD card too (on the off chance that something goes wrong, just copy/paste everything on your SD card to your PC, so you can restore)

heh heh
my point being.. I keep the 'backed up' settings and info on the sd? or is it completely blank?
also I need to apply firmware upgrades again?

kurgandk said:
heh heh
my point being.. I keep the 'backed up' settings and info on the sd? or is it completely blank?
also I need to apply firmware upgrades again?
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Don't think it touches software version, but it might. I suggest you backup either with MyBackup (30 day free trial) or TitaniumBackup first.

i have the same issue, everytime i check my task manager i see apps like maps launched even though i never use them, sucks more battery for no reason, i hope froyo sheds some light

Please check one of the many battery/task manager threads. Cached applications don't use anything if they aren't somehow active. Also you could have lots of applications open at startup which must initialize something or cache themselves.
I also have maps and many other launched at startup, and my battery life is more than good.

well its claimed that they dont use any ressources.... but the reality is that something like maps eat 10% of my battery in the course of a day even if i dont use it...
if i regularely kill off unused tasks I have plenty of battery for a whole day including wifi
but if I dont Im down to the wire..
apps like maps, gallery etc. alll runs on bootup, and maps at least restarts every ... minutes..

got a response from HTC:
Dear Mr Jacobsen, Thanks for contacting HTC Support. Regarding your question, the applications will run automatically in the background as you pointed out. And yes, they will affect the longevity of the battery. Phones operating on the android platform or the Windows Mobile platform will need to be recharged on a more regular basis than other mobile phones. “Heavy” users might need to recharge their phone as often as every 24 hours, and this applies to every brand (Nokia, Sony...)out there. That aside, I do share your frustrations regarding the energy applications waste. If you go on to the Marketplace (market) and search for the application task killer, you should find an application enabling you to close down applications you do not need on a regular basis. Yours Sincerely ****** HTC Support
To send a reply to this message or let me know I have successfully answered your question log in to our ContactUs site using your email address and your ticket number *******.
Sincerely,
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HTC

Task killers, full wipes, uninstallation...
...People could you calm down?
OP, could you check you don't have Latitude enabled in your Maps app? I found this too and it was because I set Maps to report my location. If it's not thats a good start. Now go to your settings and select Location. If you want turn off the use of wireless for location acquiring.
Ensure you're not using any widgets that need mapping data, or the Maps live wallpaper (that's a REAL juice hog)
You'll find a service running called FriendsAppWidget or such. Not sure what it does, but it's the only Map service I know that runs as long as the phone is on. You can kill it if you want, but I'm getting about 16 hrs use with it running all this time and no task killers.
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From some searching is seems quite a few 3rd party apps plug into this service. Foursquare, Buzz, Twitter etc... Also , run maps and turn off any location aware features you may have enabled in the Labs section.
Basically seek out any apps you use that are dependant on getting your location to work. Even your weather widget might be the culprit.

Menu > Add > Shortcuts > Settings > Battery Use. Charge it to full, use it til it's running out of battery, then open Battery Use and tell us if there are any apps that you didn't open once (like maps) that use, say, 10% of your battery.
Sounds to me like they're just background services (which consume 0 resources)

well maps for sure, it seems its the single most powersucking app...
when Im down to orange/red on the battery from full charge its rated at 7-10%

kurgandk said:
well maps for sure, it seems its the single most powersucking app...
when Im down to orange/red on the battery from full charge its rated at 7-10%
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Are you using Foursquare/Facebook/Twitter/geotagging photos & snapping a lot of them/etc? All of those use Maps, to a certain extent. If not, and you're on a stock ROM, call HTC and *****.

I do use geotagging and some facebook, but that ... in my opinion does not excuse maps not quitting after its done what it has to do...

[Q] Google maps...

Hi all, maybe this is a little bit dumb question, but is it possible to uninstall google maps or do this cause issues with other apps? Figured out that the process com.google.android.apps.maps.Maps drained a lot of Battery over night, dont know why... maybe its google locations releated?
Dont know what google maps is for beside navigation, for that i u use Copilot...
Thanks in advance,
Steffen

Bump.
If not completely uninstall, at least find out what app triggers this process to start...

I found it to be latitude causing maps to run in the background.
Sign out of Latitude, should solve the drain.
Sent from The App that Time Forgot.

JagDave said:
I found it to be latitude causing maps to run in the background.
Sign out of Latitude, should solve the drain.
Sent from The App that Time Forgot.
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Thank you,, that helped... signed out of Latitude and in addition used autostarts to prevent google maps starting automaticly... now i just loose 5% during the whole night ( with airplane mode activated)

Also did disable use location via mobile network/wifi and now only use GPS. Severely improved battery.

[Q] What's the deal with Google Maps services running all the time?

Epic 4G Touch (GB 2.3.6.) I've rooted it and dumped all the bloat like Social Hub, Media Hub and such.
Yesterday, in "Running Services" I had the basics plus Email (I assume that's needed for grabbing SMS?), Swype, and such.
After 7 hrs of light/average use (4G on and off a few times, dloaded an app, BT on and off a few times, 15 mins of gaming, etc), my battery was at 87%. That was roughly my pattern for the last few days- great battery life for this device, I think.
Then yesterday afternoon, I played with Google Maps, turning GPS on and off, opening and closing the "Traffic" widget (do people actually use that??), etc, then shutting it all down, turning off location, etc.
I then see Google Maps has three processes running:
"NetworkInitiatedService"
"NetworkLocationService"
"FriendsAppWidgetUpdate"
that can't be shut down (when you do, they pop back up a moment later). I left it alone, though, figuring it was filling its cache or whatever- I don't get too worked up about apps doing their thing if they can do it then shut down.
So today, after charging it last night, those processes are still running and my battery is now at 88% after three hours. Google Maps seems to be killing my battery for no apparent benefit- I have no widget running that uses it, either (I have the Accuweather widget running, but it's not set to use current location).
I guess my questions are:
Is this normal- does everyone else see this behavior? Is there any way to shut Maps down that I can't find?
TIA.
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GPS has been off the whole time (except as noted above), I'm not signed in to Latitude (never have been), and Settings --> Location and Security --> Use wireless networks and use GPS satellites are both unchecked.

Guess time: Do you have Location services enabled? That might be the issue. Disable them and see if this goes away.

Robbzilla said:
Guess time: Do you have Location services enabled? That might be the issue. Disable them and see if this goes away.
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That's the first thing I thought of, but
Settings --> Location and Security --> "Use wireless networks" and "Use GPS satellites"
are both unchecked and always have been.
Is there another place I should be looking?

Is it cached or running in the foreground?

phatmanxxl said:
Is it cached or running in the foreground?
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Erm, Google Maps is 'closed' (or at least I back out of it every time- I assume that 'closes' it), and in Cache Settings, Automatic Caching is set to "Wi-Fi Only".

Update:
I just went in to:
Settings --> Applications --> Manage Applications
And hit "Clear Data" on the Maps app and it stopped all the services running.
Happy, but I didn't expect that. In fact, I might have expected the opposite.
Why would clearing its data stop it from running??

Also, it only shuts them down when you "Clear Data" from the system settings, not from Titanium Backup.

rodbac said:
Update:
I just went in to:
Settings --> Applications --> Manage Applications
And hit "Clear Data" on the Maps app and it stopped all the services running.
Happy, but I didn't expect that. In fact, I might have expected the opposite.
Why would clearing its data stop it from running??
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Open Google Maps again and see if those services get started back up. They do on my phone (LocationFriendService and MapsBackgroundService)

Autostarts!

That's why I always delete it and grab it from Market when I need it. Google+ does too I believe
Sent from my Nexus S 4G using xda premium

Maps running
what works best for me is titanium backup pro....(only pro version) i personally dont like to keep uninstalling apps so with pro you can keep the apps that run all the time and than just freeze them and than they wont run any more and when you need them you just go back to titanium and defrost them !!!!!!!

rocketman228 said:
what works best for me is titanium backup pro....(only pro version) i personally dont like to keep uninstalling apps so with pro you can keep the apps that run all the time and than just freeze them and than they wont run any more and when you need them you just go back to titanium and defrost them !!!!!!!
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Freezing is definitely a great alternative to uninstalling. I just use those apps so little that I figure uninstall. JRummy's Ultimate Backup is great too. It is also a feature in ROM Toolbox Pro if you long press on an app in App Manager. You can freeze there as well
Sent from my Nexus S 4G using xda premium

Google Play Services, Location active - battery eater LG G3

Hi,
I've disabled my Location and Google Play Services battery consumption reduced.
I've noticed that every time when I unlocked the phone, the system tries to access GPS - I can see for 1 second the the location symbol appears in the notification toolbar.
Previously I owned a G2 and didn't have the issue, with G2 you unlock of the phone and G2 doesn't try to start GPS, the location symbol doesn't appear in the notification toolbar! simple and battery efficient. Not the case with G3. Don't know what stupidity they did or what they've modified.
I don't know if is a Lollipop issue or a bug in LG G3 software.
It is stupid and drains battery fast.
I want to keep the Location active because of geotagging photo information or for using googlemasps. But it is annoying to start manually the location when using this.
I hope there is a workaround to this issue.
Tks
I'm using
5.0
SW
V20f-226-01

only to my phone happens this? or is a global issue?
did anyone experience this issue or I'm the only one?
did someone see this until now?

Use Disable Services and disable that service under Google Play Services

DelBoy said:
Use Disable Services and disable that service under Google Play Services
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Not only that you must be root to use the application, but it is not ok in my opinion to have this functionality on the phone.
I get 2-3 days of full battery with location turned off!
With location turned on only 1 maybe 2 days!!! big difference !!!
Still my question remains...
Is this a bug in LG software or it happens only on my phone? and what's the workaround for this?

If you dont have root, have in the world you have figured that Google Play Services is trying to access GPS for one second?

Google playServices accesses GPS and drains battery
DelBoy said:
If you dont have root, have in the world you have figured that Google Play Services is trying to access GPS for one second?
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With Location ON it can be seen in the Settings->General->Battery->Battery Usage , that GooglePlayServices eats up to 20% battery when location is on.(daily usage) and as I've said previously the GPS is accessed every time you unlock the phone and go to home screen. You can see it in the notification toolbar the symbol of the GPS is ON for 1 second. I think that is the reason why it eats up so much battery.
When Location is OFF the Goolge Play Services (that includes also the Location Manager) eats up only 4% battery consumption and you don't see the GPS active each time you unlock the phone
From this I figured it out that GooglePlayServices has a bug or the sofware phone has a bug.
Is this happen to others?

how location is working on your side?
Hello...
are you experiencing the same issue? or I'm the only one?

You are the only one.
Make factory reset and see will it solve.

DelBoy said:
You are the only one.
Make factory reset and see will it solve.
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youp, tks , that solved the problem! I did a previous factory reset but after the new update I have to do it again.
This is not ok. Every time you get an update you must do a factory reset... not so ok.
My battery lasts now about 3 days. Google Play Services eats about only 2-3% of battery.
This is awesome!

dantandi said:
youp, tks , that solved the problem! I did a previous factory reset but after the new update I have to do it again.
This is not ok. Every time you get an update you must do a factory reset... not so ok.
My battery lasts now about 3 days. Google Play Services eats about only 2-3% of battery.
This is awesome!
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I unchecked precise location (gps and network) and checked battery saving mode (wifi network based location) only in Location and this saved my batterylife.

fixed
gee2012 said:
I unchecked precise location (gps and network) and checked battery saving mode (wifi network based location) only in Location and this saved my batterylife.
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I like the geo tag posision to use with the camera application so... I like the location to stay ON. the only bug that I had was it was accessing gps every time I unlock the screen.
Now works ok

service type name from GooglePlay
DelBoy said:
Use Disable Services and disable that service under Google Play Services
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Dow you know what is the name of the service?
I've disabled
LoctionWearableListnerService and
LocationHistoryInjectorService
and bug is fixed!
but after some time ... even with this services disabled ... the problem reappears.
It is like some other service is reEnable them again even though in DisableService they are off(red).
Does anyone know what's the service name that should be killed?

It's not Play Services, it's some app that uses its API. For me it was LG Weather app.
I fixed it by setting my location manually in its settings.

is not the weather widget
YaDr said:
It's not Play Services, it's some app that uses its API. For me it was LG Weather app.
I fixed it by setting my location manually in its settings.
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is this a service or the widget weather?
I've removed the widget from the screen. The same!
Even placed the location manually in the settings of the widget.
Is there other place that I should be looking?
After all it shouldn't be the widget weather app. It refreshes the location in 3h interval.
I've tried also with the ROM fresh installed, with no new app installed still the same. GPS pups up!
Really stupid!
Has anyone fixed this by now ?or at least identified the cause?

Problem SOLVED
Come on guys!
Just go And turn SmartLock (Google) OFF in trust agents in security settings
As easy as pie!

Playing around with DisableService, I've stopped other services that were in use by GooglePlay.
Android system pointed out that GooglePlay has an error and needs to be updated from PlayStore.
I've updated GooglePlay from PlayStore and I don't have this issue anymore!!!
I leave my location ON all the time, I don't have battery drain anymore!!!
I think is a bug in GooglePlay version application that the ROM is coming with.
As soon as you get(update) GooglePlay form playstore, the phone behaves normally.
This way worked for me.
@Mo3ein - I had already SmartLock OFF. It's not from SmartLock

Greenify

Hi all, just wondering what system apps can i use with greenify? Mainly wanna stop play services wakelocks, Thanks in advanced

phonetech101 said:
Hi all, just wondering what system apps can i use with greenify? Mainly wanna stop play services wakelocks, Thanks in advanced
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You can cut down on some Google play services drain by:
1. Turning off location history in Google maps for all your accounts.
2. Uninstalling android device manager/ putting into deep hibernation.
3. Turn off Wi-Fi and BT scanning in their respective menus.
4. Turn off contribute usage data to Google.
5. Turn off auto app backup with Google.
6. If you're on android marshmallow, amplify is better at targeting specific wakelocks then greenify is AFAIK.
Those are some of the things I have picked up over time hope this helps.

Rarely ever get Google play service drain over 4 percent. ??

MrWilsonxD said:
You can cut down on some Google play services drain by:
1. Turning off location history in Google maps for all your accounts.
2. Uninstalling android device manager/ putting into deep hibernation.
3. Turn off Wi-Fi and BT scanning in their respective menus.
4. Turn off contribute usage data to Google.
5. Turn off auto app backup with Google.
6. If you're on android marshmallow, amplify is better at targeting specific wakelocks then greenify is AFAIK.
Those are some of the things I have picked up over time hope this helps.
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Thanks mate, step 2 could you give me more detail on what you did to uninstall it. Thanks.

phonetech101 said:
Thanks mate, step 2 could you give me more detail on what you did to uninstall it. Thanks.
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I'm talking about an app from the play store. If you've never downloaded "android device manager" https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.google.android.apps.adm
then don't worry about it.

MrWilsonxD said:
I'm talking about an app from the play store. If you've never downloaded "android device manager" https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.google.android.apps.adm
then don't worry about it.
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Oh nah dont use that. Thanks for your help. Google play services has only used 4%so far, so ill just leave it for now.