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Im puzzled why maps and other apps keep autostarting in the background?
and eat battery... maps alone can eat up to 10% of my battery in the duration of a day, even if I dont use it...
kurgandk said:
Im puzzled why maps and other apps keep autostarting in the background?
and eat battery... maps alone can eat up to 10% of my battery in the duration of a day, even if I dont use it...
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Get a task killer app and set it to always kill maps, and set a schedule for pruning (like every 30 mins). It's not supposed to start by itself. If you haven't rooted/flashed a custom ROM on it, call HTC. If you have, unroot and go back to stock for a day and see if the problem persists. If it doesn't, it's the ROM's fault.
its not rooted, so if I understand you correctly its a bug?
kurgandk said:
its not rooted, so if I understand you correctly its a bug?
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Either a software bug or an application issue. Have you reset to factory settings (full wipe)?
no not yet..
how much does a 'full wipe' .... 'wipe'?
kurgandk said:
how much does a 'full wipe' .... 'wipe'?
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I'm sorry, but that is hilarious.
kurgandk said:
how much does a 'full wipe' .... 'wipe'?
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About as much as 2 packs of Kleenex.
Okay, serious answer. All data on the phone, but not SD card too (on the off chance that something goes wrong, just copy/paste everything on your SD card to your PC, so you can restore)
heh heh
my point being.. I keep the 'backed up' settings and info on the sd? or is it completely blank?
also I need to apply firmware upgrades again?
kurgandk said:
heh heh
my point being.. I keep the 'backed up' settings and info on the sd? or is it completely blank?
also I need to apply firmware upgrades again?
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Don't think it touches software version, but it might. I suggest you backup either with MyBackup (30 day free trial) or TitaniumBackup first.
i have the same issue, everytime i check my task manager i see apps like maps launched even though i never use them, sucks more battery for no reason, i hope froyo sheds some light
Please check one of the many battery/task manager threads. Cached applications don't use anything if they aren't somehow active. Also you could have lots of applications open at startup which must initialize something or cache themselves.
I also have maps and many other launched at startup, and my battery life is more than good.
well its claimed that they dont use any ressources.... but the reality is that something like maps eat 10% of my battery in the course of a day even if i dont use it...
if i regularely kill off unused tasks I have plenty of battery for a whole day including wifi
but if I dont Im down to the wire..
apps like maps, gallery etc. alll runs on bootup, and maps at least restarts every ... minutes..
got a response from HTC:
Dear Mr Jacobsen, Thanks for contacting HTC Support. Regarding your question, the applications will run automatically in the background as you pointed out. And yes, they will affect the longevity of the battery. Phones operating on the android platform or the Windows Mobile platform will need to be recharged on a more regular basis than other mobile phones. “Heavy” users might need to recharge their phone as often as every 24 hours, and this applies to every brand (Nokia, Sony...)out there. That aside, I do share your frustrations regarding the energy applications waste. If you go on to the Marketplace (market) and search for the application task killer, you should find an application enabling you to close down applications you do not need on a regular basis. Yours Sincerely ****** HTC Support
To send a reply to this message or let me know I have successfully answered your question log in to our ContactUs site using your email address and your ticket number *******.
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Task killers, full wipes, uninstallation...
...People could you calm down?
OP, could you check you don't have Latitude enabled in your Maps app? I found this too and it was because I set Maps to report my location. If it's not thats a good start. Now go to your settings and select Location. If you want turn off the use of wireless for location acquiring.
Ensure you're not using any widgets that need mapping data, or the Maps live wallpaper (that's a REAL juice hog)
You'll find a service running called FriendsAppWidget or such. Not sure what it does, but it's the only Map service I know that runs as long as the phone is on. You can kill it if you want, but I'm getting about 16 hrs use with it running all this time and no task killers.
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From some searching is seems quite a few 3rd party apps plug into this service. Foursquare, Buzz, Twitter etc... Also , run maps and turn off any location aware features you may have enabled in the Labs section.
Basically seek out any apps you use that are dependant on getting your location to work. Even your weather widget might be the culprit.
Menu > Add > Shortcuts > Settings > Battery Use. Charge it to full, use it til it's running out of battery, then open Battery Use and tell us if there are any apps that you didn't open once (like maps) that use, say, 10% of your battery.
Sounds to me like they're just background services (which consume 0 resources)
well maps for sure, it seems its the single most powersucking app...
when Im down to orange/red on the battery from full charge its rated at 7-10%
kurgandk said:
well maps for sure, it seems its the single most powersucking app...
when Im down to orange/red on the battery from full charge its rated at 7-10%
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Are you using Foursquare/Facebook/Twitter/geotagging photos & snapping a lot of them/etc? All of those use Maps, to a certain extent. If not, and you're on a stock ROM, call HTC and *****.
I do use geotagging and some facebook, but that ... in my opinion does not excuse maps not quitting after its done what it has to do...
I am trying to prevent certain apps from automatically starting up without me requesting them to. For example, Shopkick, Amazon App Store, Pulse, to name a few. Can someone help me with this? I still want to use these I just don't want them running all the time (Shopkick esp since they activate the mic and record certain words/patterns to market to you).
houseofkrazeesstl said:
I am trying to prevent certain apps from automatically starting up without me requesting them to. For example, Shopkick, Amazon App Store, Pulse, to name a few. Can someone help me with this? I still want to use these I just don't want them running all the time (Shopkick esp since they activate the mic and record certain words/patterns to market to you).
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Get the app called Autostarts and selectr the ones you want to stop.
Easiest way to prevent this is to Back out of programs or use the exit button. If the app stil does't behave, notify the creator. All Android programs should permanently close if you use those methods.
The Root said:
Easiest way to prevent this is to Back out of programs or use the exit button. If the app stil does't behave, notify the creator. All Android programs should permanently close if you use those methods.
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That's not the issue, the big issue is them starting when I don't request it to start (i.i. Amazon App Store starts at random)
Use any of the myriad of start-up process editor apps or freeze unwanted apps/services with Titanium backup.
houseofkrazeesstl said:
That's not the issue, the big issue is them starting when I don't request it to start (i.i. Amazon App Store starts at random)
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Yes, it means sometime you didn't close it out properly. I've never had Amazon App store reopen because I always close it out right.
The Root said:
Yes, it means sometime you didn't close it out properly. I've never had Amazon App store reopen because I always close it out right.
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At startup they load a piece into memory. If you check with Advanced Task Killer for Froyo you can see how many apps load into memory at bootup. If you load the task manager and clear memory you will see it closing apps that you had no idea were running. Amazon App store is one of them, Qik, Tango, Google Nav loads Maps, Telenav loads a similiar process.
LBE Safeguard,......you can shut em down, and bring em back when you want to use them.
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Use autostarts... it works well
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BrooklynsFinest said:
Use autostarts... it works well
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No, it doesn't on an HTC Droid Incredible. I have a problem where Music Beta (the Android app which supports Google Music Beta) autostarts whenever it senses a BT audio connection that isn't being used, sometimes right over other apps which *are* streaming BT.
I was looking for an app that would prevent it from automatically starting up, but Autostarts couldn't even see that event as a triggering event for the app. (And, no, it's not a function of the "headset" setting on the app.)
I am still searching for the app that will do that.
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No, it doesn't on an HTC Droid Incredible. I have a problem where Music Beta (the Android app which supports Google Music Beta) autostarts whenever it senses a BT audio connection that isn't being used, sometimes right over other apps which *are* streaming BT.
I was looking for an app that would prevent it from automatically starting up, but Autostarts couldn't even see that event as a triggering event for the app. (And, no, it's not a function of the "headset" setting on the app.)
I am still searching for the app that will do that.
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Isn't there a bluetooth function in Autostarts? I know there are a ton of settings. If not just get bloat freezer or paid Titanium and freeze it until you actually want to use it. If I use Pandora with my Bluetooth, the next time I use the Bluetooth a piece of Pandora is loaded into memory. If I freeze it for a connection or two it doesn't do it again.
The Root said:
Yes, it means sometime you didn't close it out properly. I've never had Amazon App store reopen because I always close it out right.
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I seem to recall that there are many self-starting apps. Things that want to collect data or monitor usage. I saw these when using one of the autostart apps to kill these. There were several apps that came up as self starters. Meaning that as many times as the autostart program would kill them, they would automatically restart themselves. Its true.
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Is there a fix for this issue?
I am using a Samsung Galaxy S2 for T-Mobile and I have the same issue.
I am using a start up cleaner app, start up manager, 1tap cleaner, TaskManager, Super Tool as well as My Data Manager apps to monitor my Phone. The data manager is showing me apps that are using my DATA when I don't want them running. Aside from uninstalling some apps, Some I can't, what can I do? I don't want them running unless I turn them on myself. My task Manager app shows me apps I never use that are running, such as, Social Hub,CK Zombies-a game I rarely use, My Account, Voice Command,Books, Maps and a few others.
Is what I want to do, run only what I want to run and not everything else, possible?
Homeuser66 said:
Is there a fix for this issue?
I am using a Samsung Galaxy S2 for T-Mobile and I have the same issue.
I am using a start up cleaner app, start up manager, 1tap cleaner, TaskManager, Super Tool as well as My Data Manager apps to monitor my Phone. The data manager is showing me apps that are using my DATA when I don't want them running. Aside from uninstalling some apps, Some I can't, what can I do? I don't want them running unless I turn them on myself. My task Manager app shows me apps I never use that are running, such as, Social Hub,CK Zombies-a game I rarely use, My Account, Voice Command,Books, Maps and a few others.
Is what I want to do, run only what I want to run and not everything else, possible?
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I've used Gemini App Manager to do this. Launch Under Menu->Settings->Expert Mode, click on the Filter. Go down to "Can Auto Run", and see what can auto-start. You can also filter by "Is Running" to see what is running now.
In Gemini, click on an app, and go down to "Config Autorun (root)". There you will see a list of when the app may autorun, and you can adjust accordingly.
roguejam said:
I've used Gemini App Manager to do this. Launch Under Menu->Settings->Expert Mode, click on the Filter. Go down to "Can Auto Run", and see what can auto-start. You can also filter by "Is Running" to see what is running now.
In Gemini, click on an app, and go down to "Config Autorun (root)". There you will see a list of when the app may autorun, and you can adjust accordingly.
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Ok, I'll check this out...I failed to mention, I don't have my phone Rooted...yet...Not sure if I plan on it yet either. But will this work on a non-Rooted Phone?
Homeuser66 said:
Ok, I'll check this out...I failed to mention, I don't have my phone Rooted...yet...Not sure if I plan on it yet either. But will this work on a non-Rooted Phone?
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Unfortunately, you need root access to be able to modify that about a program. That's the reason for the "Config Autorun (root)".
roguejam said:
Unfortunately, you need root access to be able to modify that about a program. That's the reason for the "Config Autorun (root)".
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Figures.....I haven't decided on doing this yet or not...
Epic 4G Touch (GB 2.3.6.) I've rooted it and dumped all the bloat like Social Hub, Media Hub and such.
Yesterday, in "Running Services" I had the basics plus Email (I assume that's needed for grabbing SMS?), Swype, and such.
After 7 hrs of light/average use (4G on and off a few times, dloaded an app, BT on and off a few times, 15 mins of gaming, etc), my battery was at 87%. That was roughly my pattern for the last few days- great battery life for this device, I think.
Then yesterday afternoon, I played with Google Maps, turning GPS on and off, opening and closing the "Traffic" widget (do people actually use that??), etc, then shutting it all down, turning off location, etc.
I then see Google Maps has three processes running:
"NetworkInitiatedService"
"NetworkLocationService"
"FriendsAppWidgetUpdate"
that can't be shut down (when you do, they pop back up a moment later). I left it alone, though, figuring it was filling its cache or whatever- I don't get too worked up about apps doing their thing if they can do it then shut down.
So today, after charging it last night, those processes are still running and my battery is now at 88% after three hours. Google Maps seems to be killing my battery for no apparent benefit- I have no widget running that uses it, either (I have the Accuweather widget running, but it's not set to use current location).
I guess my questions are:
Is this normal- does everyone else see this behavior? Is there any way to shut Maps down that I can't find?
TIA.
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GPS has been off the whole time (except as noted above), I'm not signed in to Latitude (never have been), and Settings --> Location and Security --> Use wireless networks and use GPS satellites are both unchecked.
Guess time: Do you have Location services enabled? That might be the issue. Disable them and see if this goes away.
Robbzilla said:
Guess time: Do you have Location services enabled? That might be the issue. Disable them and see if this goes away.
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That's the first thing I thought of, but
Settings --> Location and Security --> "Use wireless networks" and "Use GPS satellites"
are both unchecked and always have been.
Is there another place I should be looking?
Is it cached or running in the foreground?
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Is it cached or running in the foreground?
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Erm, Google Maps is 'closed' (or at least I back out of it every time- I assume that 'closes' it), and in Cache Settings, Automatic Caching is set to "Wi-Fi Only".
Update:
I just went in to:
Settings --> Applications --> Manage Applications
And hit "Clear Data" on the Maps app and it stopped all the services running.
Happy, but I didn't expect that. In fact, I might have expected the opposite.
Why would clearing its data stop it from running??
Also, it only shuts them down when you "Clear Data" from the system settings, not from Titanium Backup.
rodbac said:
Update:
I just went in to:
Settings --> Applications --> Manage Applications
And hit "Clear Data" on the Maps app and it stopped all the services running.
Happy, but I didn't expect that. In fact, I might have expected the opposite.
Why would clearing its data stop it from running??
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Open Google Maps again and see if those services get started back up. They do on my phone (LocationFriendService and MapsBackgroundService)
Autostarts!
That's why I always delete it and grab it from Market when I need it. Google+ does too I believe
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Maps running
what works best for me is titanium backup pro....(only pro version) i personally dont like to keep uninstalling apps so with pro you can keep the apps that run all the time and than just freeze them and than they wont run any more and when you need them you just go back to titanium and defrost them !!!!!!!
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what works best for me is titanium backup pro....(only pro version) i personally dont like to keep uninstalling apps so with pro you can keep the apps that run all the time and than just freeze them and than they wont run any more and when you need them you just go back to titanium and defrost them !!!!!!!
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Freezing is definitely a great alternative to uninstalling. I just use those apps so little that I figure uninstall. JRummy's Ultimate Backup is great too. It is also a feature in ROM Toolbox Pro if you long press on an app in App Manager. You can freeze there as well
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Hi,
I've disabled my Location and Google Play Services battery consumption reduced.
I've noticed that every time when I unlocked the phone, the system tries to access GPS - I can see for 1 second the the location symbol appears in the notification toolbar.
Previously I owned a G2 and didn't have the issue, with G2 you unlock of the phone and G2 doesn't try to start GPS, the location symbol doesn't appear in the notification toolbar! simple and battery efficient. Not the case with G3. Don't know what stupidity they did or what they've modified.
I don't know if is a Lollipop issue or a bug in LG G3 software.
It is stupid and drains battery fast.
I want to keep the Location active because of geotagging photo information or for using googlemasps. But it is annoying to start manually the location when using this.
I hope there is a workaround to this issue.
Tks
I'm using
5.0
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V20f-226-01
only to my phone happens this? or is a global issue?
did anyone experience this issue or I'm the only one?
did someone see this until now?
Use Disable Services and disable that service under Google Play Services
DelBoy said:
Use Disable Services and disable that service under Google Play Services
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Not only that you must be root to use the application, but it is not ok in my opinion to have this functionality on the phone.
I get 2-3 days of full battery with location turned off!
With location turned on only 1 maybe 2 days!!! big difference !!!
Still my question remains...
Is this a bug in LG software or it happens only on my phone? and what's the workaround for this?
If you dont have root, have in the world you have figured that Google Play Services is trying to access GPS for one second?
Google playServices accesses GPS and drains battery
DelBoy said:
If you dont have root, have in the world you have figured that Google Play Services is trying to access GPS for one second?
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With Location ON it can be seen in the Settings->General->Battery->Battery Usage , that GooglePlayServices eats up to 20% battery when location is on.(daily usage) and as I've said previously the GPS is accessed every time you unlock the phone and go to home screen. You can see it in the notification toolbar the symbol of the GPS is ON for 1 second. I think that is the reason why it eats up so much battery.
When Location is OFF the Goolge Play Services (that includes also the Location Manager) eats up only 4% battery consumption and you don't see the GPS active each time you unlock the phone
From this I figured it out that GooglePlayServices has a bug or the sofware phone has a bug.
Is this happen to others?
how location is working on your side?
Hello...
are you experiencing the same issue? or I'm the only one?
You are the only one.
Make factory reset and see will it solve.
DelBoy said:
You are the only one.
Make factory reset and see will it solve.
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youp, tks , that solved the problem! I did a previous factory reset but after the new update I have to do it again.
This is not ok. Every time you get an update you must do a factory reset... not so ok.
My battery lasts now about 3 days. Google Play Services eats about only 2-3% of battery.
This is awesome!
dantandi said:
youp, tks , that solved the problem! I did a previous factory reset but after the new update I have to do it again.
This is not ok. Every time you get an update you must do a factory reset... not so ok.
My battery lasts now about 3 days. Google Play Services eats about only 2-3% of battery.
This is awesome!
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I unchecked precise location (gps and network) and checked battery saving mode (wifi network based location) only in Location and this saved my batterylife.
fixed
gee2012 said:
I unchecked precise location (gps and network) and checked battery saving mode (wifi network based location) only in Location and this saved my batterylife.
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I like the geo tag posision to use with the camera application so... I like the location to stay ON. the only bug that I had was it was accessing gps every time I unlock the screen.
Now works ok
service type name from GooglePlay
DelBoy said:
Use Disable Services and disable that service under Google Play Services
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Dow you know what is the name of the service?
I've disabled
LoctionWearableListnerService and
LocationHistoryInjectorService
and bug is fixed!
but after some time ... even with this services disabled ... the problem reappears.
It is like some other service is reEnable them again even though in DisableService they are off(red).
Does anyone know what's the service name that should be killed?
It's not Play Services, it's some app that uses its API. For me it was LG Weather app.
I fixed it by setting my location manually in its settings.
is not the weather widget
YaDr said:
It's not Play Services, it's some app that uses its API. For me it was LG Weather app.
I fixed it by setting my location manually in its settings.
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is this a service or the widget weather?
I've removed the widget from the screen. The same!
Even placed the location manually in the settings of the widget.
Is there other place that I should be looking?
After all it shouldn't be the widget weather app. It refreshes the location in 3h interval.
I've tried also with the ROM fresh installed, with no new app installed still the same. GPS pups up!
Really stupid!
Has anyone fixed this by now ?or at least identified the cause?
Problem SOLVED
Come on guys!
Just go And turn SmartLock (Google) OFF in trust agents in security settings
As easy as pie!
Playing around with DisableService, I've stopped other services that were in use by GooglePlay.
Android system pointed out that GooglePlay has an error and needs to be updated from PlayStore.
I've updated GooglePlay from PlayStore and I don't have this issue anymore!!!
I leave my location ON all the time, I don't have battery drain anymore!!!
I think is a bug in GooglePlay version application that the ROM is coming with.
As soon as you get(update) GooglePlay form playstore, the phone behaves normally.
This way worked for me.
@Mo3ein - I had already SmartLock OFF. It's not from SmartLock
hi i have one m9 with firmware 1.32.709.15 which is an asian version.
i have problem with its overheating and battery.
when i check power usage there is always Google Play Services at the top. when i look at into it i see that GoogleAnalyticsService is running and device is overheating. when i kill this service device temperature became more acceptable and battery lasts longer a lot.
but then this service of course appears again and i have to control always and kill it to use phone smoothly.
anyone with advices will make me so happy.
thanks in advance.
Try downloading this app
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=cn.wq.disableservice
as there is a known issue with Google play services constantly running. Download this app
and disable systemupdateservice in Google services and see if that helps. You need root I believe though.
brittoking said:
Try downloading this app
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=cn.wq.disableservice
as there is a known issue with Google play services constantly running. Download this app
and disable systemupdateservice in Google services and see if that helps. You need root I believe though.
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Thanks for your reply but i dont have root access and i dont want to unlock bootlader i had some warranty problems with my m8 due to bootloader unlock.
Maybe any other Solutions?