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maps and other apps keep launching in the background?!

Im puzzled why maps and other apps keep autostarting in the background?
and eat battery... maps alone can eat up to 10% of my battery in the duration of a day, even if I dont use it...

kurgandk said:
Im puzzled why maps and other apps keep autostarting in the background?
and eat battery... maps alone can eat up to 10% of my battery in the duration of a day, even if I dont use it...
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Get a task killer app and set it to always kill maps, and set a schedule for pruning (like every 30 mins). It's not supposed to start by itself. If you haven't rooted/flashed a custom ROM on it, call HTC. If you have, unroot and go back to stock for a day and see if the problem persists. If it doesn't, it's the ROM's fault.

its not rooted, so if I understand you correctly its a bug?

kurgandk said:
its not rooted, so if I understand you correctly its a bug?
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Either a software bug or an application issue. Have you reset to factory settings (full wipe)?

no not yet..

how much does a 'full wipe' .... 'wipe'?

kurgandk said:
how much does a 'full wipe' .... 'wipe'?
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I'm sorry, but that is hilarious.

kurgandk said:
how much does a 'full wipe' .... 'wipe'?
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About as much as 2 packs of Kleenex.
Okay, serious answer. All data on the phone, but not SD card too (on the off chance that something goes wrong, just copy/paste everything on your SD card to your PC, so you can restore)

heh heh
my point being.. I keep the 'backed up' settings and info on the sd? or is it completely blank?
also I need to apply firmware upgrades again?

kurgandk said:
heh heh
my point being.. I keep the 'backed up' settings and info on the sd? or is it completely blank?
also I need to apply firmware upgrades again?
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Don't think it touches software version, but it might. I suggest you backup either with MyBackup (30 day free trial) or TitaniumBackup first.

i have the same issue, everytime i check my task manager i see apps like maps launched even though i never use them, sucks more battery for no reason, i hope froyo sheds some light

Please check one of the many battery/task manager threads. Cached applications don't use anything if they aren't somehow active. Also you could have lots of applications open at startup which must initialize something or cache themselves.
I also have maps and many other launched at startup, and my battery life is more than good.

well its claimed that they dont use any ressources.... but the reality is that something like maps eat 10% of my battery in the course of a day even if i dont use it...
if i regularely kill off unused tasks I have plenty of battery for a whole day including wifi
but if I dont Im down to the wire..
apps like maps, gallery etc. alll runs on bootup, and maps at least restarts every ... minutes..

got a response from HTC:
Dear Mr Jacobsen, Thanks for contacting HTC Support. Regarding your question, the applications will run automatically in the background as you pointed out. And yes, they will affect the longevity of the battery. Phones operating on the android platform or the Windows Mobile platform will need to be recharged on a more regular basis than other mobile phones. “Heavy” users might need to recharge their phone as often as every 24 hours, and this applies to every brand (Nokia, Sony...)out there. That aside, I do share your frustrations regarding the energy applications waste. If you go on to the Marketplace (market) and search for the application task killer, you should find an application enabling you to close down applications you do not need on a regular basis. Yours Sincerely ****** HTC Support
To send a reply to this message or let me know I have successfully answered your question log in to our ContactUs site using your email address and your ticket number *******.
Sincerely,
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Task killers, full wipes, uninstallation...
...People could you calm down?
OP, could you check you don't have Latitude enabled in your Maps app? I found this too and it was because I set Maps to report my location. If it's not thats a good start. Now go to your settings and select Location. If you want turn off the use of wireless for location acquiring.
Ensure you're not using any widgets that need mapping data, or the Maps live wallpaper (that's a REAL juice hog)
You'll find a service running called FriendsAppWidget or such. Not sure what it does, but it's the only Map service I know that runs as long as the phone is on. You can kill it if you want, but I'm getting about 16 hrs use with it running all this time and no task killers.
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From some searching is seems quite a few 3rd party apps plug into this service. Foursquare, Buzz, Twitter etc... Also , run maps and turn off any location aware features you may have enabled in the Labs section.
Basically seek out any apps you use that are dependant on getting your location to work. Even your weather widget might be the culprit.

Menu > Add > Shortcuts > Settings > Battery Use. Charge it to full, use it til it's running out of battery, then open Battery Use and tell us if there are any apps that you didn't open once (like maps) that use, say, 10% of your battery.
Sounds to me like they're just background services (which consume 0 resources)

well maps for sure, it seems its the single most powersucking app...
when Im down to orange/red on the battery from full charge its rated at 7-10%

kurgandk said:
well maps for sure, it seems its the single most powersucking app...
when Im down to orange/red on the battery from full charge its rated at 7-10%
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Are you using Foursquare/Facebook/Twitter/geotagging photos & snapping a lot of them/etc? All of those use Maps, to a certain extent. If not, and you're on a stock ROM, call HTC and *****.

I do use geotagging and some facebook, but that ... in my opinion does not excuse maps not quitting after its done what it has to do...

[Q] Use data only when I ask for it, not behind my back

I have all sorts of auto-sync, auto-update etc. features switched OFF. My mail, contacts, and calendar only sync when I tap on sync, I've disabled auto-updating in every app on my phone, I've unchecked "auto system update", "background data" is switched off, etcetera. To cut a long story short: every available setting that disables automatic use of data has been applied.
But when I booted my Defy and left it sitting idle for a while it still downloaded almost a megabyte of data, even though I didn't touch my phone at all.
So I made a backup with Titanium and MyBackup Root, reset my phone to factory state, went into the settings again to disable all user-configurable ways of automatic data use, and rebooted.
And then my phone auto-downloaded 0.7 MB for reasons unknown.
I don't care about a bit of data when I'm in my home network where I have an unlimited data plan, but if I would have been roaming abroad this unsollicited data could have cost me 10 euros or more. International data roaming is horribly expensive.
I could use the sledgehammer approach and disable data completely to avoid unwanted data roaming charges, but this would also disable data traffic that I'm willing to pay for (like manually checking my mail). So I need something more sophisticated than a sledgehammer.
Tools available:
1) DroidWall
2) Titanium (with the "freeze" option)
3) AdFree
Question: which apps and services should I block/freeze to ensure that my phone only uses data when I tell it to, and to make sure that it never ever downloads a single byte of data behind my back?
If DroidWall, Titanium, and AdFree are not enough, which other apps give me full control over which apps and services can use data?

Give juicedefender a try
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ApnDroid, but kills all data by rewriting APNs. I use it all the time. You can still use wifi, text and call and, if you choose, use MMS. Otherwise...?

I'm curious as to what is taking your data. When I disable the data connections, I don't use a single byte of data. Even with data enabled but background data disabled, I don't use any data.
I know you asked for an app to kill the data...but I think it's best if you can find the culprit...sounds like either your deactivation of the data isn't working, or you have some nasty app that could be overriding the setting and still downloading data (I'm thinking the first)...
For starters, which rom are you using?

Juice Defender and ApnDroid are both sledgehammers that switch data 100% on or 100% off.
I'm looking an app that let's me control data per individual app and service, so that when I fire up my email program it can download my mail without letting other apps/services hitch a ride on the open data connection.
@darule_2011:
I don't believe something nasty is eating up my data, because my phone is hungry for data even after a factory reset without any 3rd party apps installed.
I'm using firmware version 2.1-update1, which came with the phone straight out of the box. I doubt Motorola would have pre-installed malware, unless we count Motoblur as malware.
On my old Nokia, each and every app could only go online after asking me for permission first. No permission, then no data. Not even a single byte. And it was up to me to choose between "ask me once" or "ask me every time."
Is there an app that forces Android to do the same?

rogier666 said:
Juice Defender and ApnDroid are both sledgehammers that switch data 100% on or 100% off.
I'm looking an app that let's me control data per individual app and service, so that when I fire up my email program it can download my mail without letting other apps/services hitch a ride on the open data connection.
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Understood. Can't see how that can work. If your data is on, everything that wants it is going to jump on it.

darule_2011 said:
sounds like either your deactivation of the data isn't working, or you have some nasty app that could be overriding the setting and still downloading data (I'm thinking the first)...
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Is there an app that logs which app connects when and to what? The data meter in Android's built-in data manager is completely useless, and DroidStats counts the amount of data used but doesn't tell which app was using it.

Droidwall has a log function for blocked apps.
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I told DroidWall to block internet access for "MotoBlur Services" (I don't even have a MotoBlur account), and now the amount of unsollicited traffic is down to about 40 kb in the 30 minutes since rebooting my phone.
So it looks like I found the stowaway. Motorola tries to keep my phone hungry for data even though I never signed up for MotoBlur.
DroidWall's log told me it blocked some unsollicited packets from GO Launcher EX, so at least my firewall is doing its job. (Why would a launcher need to go online if you don't enable anything internet-related in its settings?)
Unfortunately DroidWall only logs what it blocks. It doesn't log traffic that it allows, so I can only guess about those 40 kb. Maybe even an unused data connection needs to talk a bit to stay alive?

You may also use AutoStarts to disable applications running automatically on background when specific events happen.

DroidStats has the possibility to watch for which app consumes data. Not only total amount. It is integrated in the donation-addon

There's an app to tell which programs and services been using data and how much, and it's on your phone already. It's way more informative than the disfunctional data meter in the data manager menu.
Dial *#*#4636#*#* (the 4636 part spells "info" on the dialpad) to launch an app called "Testing." Then hit "battery history->network usage->total since boot." It doesn't count the bytes of data that are pingponged back and forth to keep an idle connection alive, but it monitors everything else.
You can make a shortcut to "Testing" with Any Cut.
First offender: MotoBlur. Even without a MotoBlur account and every possible autosync option disabled the MotoBlur Service eats data. I blocked it with DroidWall so now it doesn't phone home anymore.
Second offender: GO Launcher EX. I also blocked it with DroidWall, because a launcher doesn't have to talk to the world outside my phone.
Third offender: An all-in-one package that's shared by GMail Storage, Google Apps, Google Search, Google Settings Provider, Google Talk Service, Google Talk Storage, and com.google.android.syncadapters.contacts. Doesn't matter if you tell your settings menus not to call Google behind your back, 'cos Big Brother doesn't listen unless you ram the message home.
Fourth offender: WinAmp. Play an mp3 from your local SD card and WinAmp still tries to go online to do things, even with scrobbling etc disabled. It probably sends out usage statistics without asking for permission first.
Fifth offender: NQmobile Anti-virus. Even if you disable all automatic connections in the settings the program phones home anyway. Most of the traffic is outgoing, so apparently it's collecting hundreds of kilobytes worth of usage statistics, even if you're not installing new apps or doing manual scans. A day of launching offline apps can easily make NQ burn a full megabyte of data where it shouldn't have been using any.
Sixth, seventh, etc. offenders: apps that go online for the sole purpose of downloading ads. All DroidWalled, of course. I'm not gonna pay international data charges to see the junk from AdMob.
I've firewalled MotoBlur, GO Launcher EX and the Google package away from the web and everything on my phone still works. Even Google Search can live without the all-in-one service, because it sends the search queries to the web browser. I guess it only needs to go online for web suggestions, which I don't use anyway. The Google Talk app is dead, but I never use it because fring and Nimbuzz are much better and they only go online after I tell them to do so. But just leave it to Google to make GoogleTalk dependent on a piece of code that phones home even when you're not using GoogleTalk.
But DroidWall is not a convenient way to tame NQmobile (NetQin), because then I'd have to manually unblock it everytime I want to update the virus database. Is there another antivirus app that only goes online when I tell it to instead of calling home on its own?

ABC_Universal said:
You may also use AutoStarts to disable applications running automatically on background when specific events happen.
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They'll probably just restart and in the end you will slow down your phone and drain your battery as you go through the kill-restart cycle.

scrannel said:
They'll probably just restart and in the end you will slow down your phone and drain your battery as you go through the kill-restart cycle.
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Freezing 'em with Titanium makes more sense.
But those are all workarounds, not solutions. As Android matures we should get an option to control the data behaviour of each and every app in full detail. If other operating systems can do it, why shouldn't Android be able to do the same?
If you think about it, it's totally ridiculous that you need to root your phone and jump through hoops to make sure that your phone bill doesn't explode when you set foot across the border. Didn't the inventors of Android ever hear of international data roaming rates?

Thanks for the useful info. I use Go Launcher too. I wondered how they moneterised their apps - probably collecting/selling usage stats.
Is roaming data being used even without the option checked?

When the G1 came out those of us who travel soon found out that certain apps would over-ride the option to prevent data roaming, thus programs like apndroid.

rogier666 said:
If other operating systems can do it, why shouldn't Android be able to do the same?
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Because that's not how it's designed to operate.
Pu simply, you've picked the wrong OS for your needs.
That's hardly Google's fault.

rogier666 said:
Is there another antivirus app that only goes online when I tell it to instead of calling home on its own?
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Try Lookout - that's what I use and it only updates when you allow it too (at least mine does).
What do you think about flashing a blurless rom? There is a barebones rom in the dev section (haven't tried that one yet), this will allow you to add back in apps that only you want...this might do the trick. I'm using Pays rom and loving it.

Thanx darule_. Lookout indeed doesn't phone home behind my back, even with automatic scanning enabled and a couple of new apps scanned.
Over two hours since last boot and not a single app has squeezed a byte through my open data connection without my permission. Looks like I've got Android tamed and fit to travel.

All I can say is, all the contemporary smartphone OS use background data stupendously.
Shut down data roaming if you don't want a hefty bill.

[How to] stop high battery drain and high data usage.

So, some may have noticed two things about your phones; 1) You have 'Android OS' using high amounts of your data as well as your battery. 2) General day to day use drains your battery very quickly. So what are you to do?
First lets address our day to day use of our phone.
Start by getting an app like Brightness Level. I use this app to keep my phones screen at 0 during the night and 25% during the day when the sun glare makes it hard to read.
Now we move into the data usage from apps and wakelock issues. This can usually occur from apps such as facebook looking to update while your phone is in your pocket. This uses data as well as wakes your phone up causing it to use more battery then if it were asleep. For this problem I recommend Juice Defender Ultimate, now you can get the free version but you wont have access to all the next steps but you will still see results.
Firstly, JD will refer to JuiceDefender
1) You will need JD anything above the free version (Google it)
2) Open JD and go to the "Status" Tab at the top
3) Enable
4) For "Profile" Choose Customize
5) A "Settings" Tab should Appear at the top, if not, close JD and re-open it.
6) Mobile Data can be Enabled or Disabled here as well as WiFi and Location
a) Turn them on and off for what you want, if you want Mobile Data and Wifi to turn on and off on specific apps you can just leave them Enabled.
b) "Schedule" Turning this on will turn on your data every 5m(minutes), 15m, 30m, 1h(hour) or 2h so it can push email and other apps you have set to use data.
c) "Night" this you can use to turn off data while you sleep and for how long you want it off
d) "Apps" You can enable this setting to pick apps that are allowed to use data or turn it off to let them run as they usually do.
e) "Interactive" will pop up a window while JD is in the background and you can pick what JD allows the app to do (will go over more of that soon.)
f) "Configure Apps" We will open this to turn app data on/off on when you have it open, on all the time.
1a) Tap "Configure Apps"
a) "Internet Apps" Apps that use the internet
b) "Configured Apps" These apps are configured by you already.
c) "All Other Apps" These apps usually do not need the internet so they do not need to be configured.
2a) Move to any App under "Internet Apps" and tap it
3a) What do the taps mean?
a) "Enable" This app is enabled, when it needs data it will only use data when you have the app opened.
b) "Enable/Screen off" This app is on and using data while the screen is off and or while the app is opened.
c) "Disabled" This app will never use data
d) "Do Nothing" The app will use data when it needs it, JD won't bother its operation.
4a) Examples
a) "Pandora" I have this app set to Enable/screen off so while I have the app running in the background it will still use data, or while the screen is off it will use data.
b) "Ebay" This app is Enabled, when I open the app and I am looking at it it will use data, but if I hit the home button it stops using data, wont use data while screen is off.
c) "AccuWeather" Disabled, this app will only use data when my Schedule turns data on for ALL items on my phone every 2 hours, it will then update anything it needs to then end data usage for two more hours.
d) "Root Browser Lite" Do nothing, This app will use data whenever it wants regardless of JD rules unless data is disabled.
Lastly, what about that pesky "Android OS" ? While people speculate what "Android OS" actually entails we will just go with what stops its killer data and battery drain.
Open up Play Store then hit your settings button, Check update over wifi only, This way we don't have apps updating all the time using a lot of data, this isn't a big necessity to do this but I do it just to be on the safe side.
Now close Play Store and go to Settings> Data Usage then hit your settings button on your phone, Check Restrict Background Data.
If you look at the Android OS in your data usage chart you will see almost all of its activity happens in the background. Restricting Background Data limits its ability to use up all your data. From doing this, last month my Android OS used 286MB in just 5 days, now it used only 80mb in 5 days. From December 5th to January 5th it used a total of 2.34 gigabytes of my data alone. This is my MAIN data culprit and the bane of multiple peoples limited data.
You may also want to go to Settings> Backup & Reset and uncheck Backup my data, Some speculate this also leads to android OS using a lot of your data.
So these are just a few things I found as I googled and searched the forums and the internet to help me save battery life, not meant to be a huge in-depth top of the line guide, more of just a general education plan. Good luck all with your battery saving en-devours, and of course if you have anything you do to save a little juice or kill that pesky Android OS bug let us all know.
Edit #1- (Some info on Android OS bug and Gapps) [Source- http://mobility.forumsee.com/a/m/s/p12-9475-0182175--android-enormous-data-usage.html]
"The Android OS drain is a bug. That is why Google is about to push a patch 4.2.2.However, if your having Android System drain, make sure you've opened all the following apps at least one time so they can sign in, regardless if you use them or not. As these are system apps, they will keep sys running until you sign in.
YouTube
Google Earth
Google + (I then disable all the sync stuff in g+ settings)
Chrome
Currents
Maps
Play Music,Magazines, Books, Music"

Hmm, I've tried juice defender many tines, and I find it affects my data connection, when I wake the phone to use it, and then go straight to browser, it takes ages to load pages.
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technaudio said:
Hmm, I've tried juice defender many tines, and I find it affects my data connection, when I wake the phone to use it, and then go straight to browser, it takes ages to load pages.
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I too notice that at times but its to be expected. I think it's worth the battery it saves
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thanitos said:
I too notice that at times but its to be expected. I think it's worth the battery it saves
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To be honest, I've not really noticed a vast improvement.
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Apps Not Automatically Updating

I'm not sure if this is an issue with the Pixel 2 XL or an Android OS bug but it's happening on my Pixel 2 XL so I'm adding here.
I have the Google Play Store app set to automatically update apps when connected to WiFi but apps are not updating. I've been connected to my home wifi for several hours and there are still apps waiting to update.
Anyone else having this issue?

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I'm not sure if this is an issue with the Pixel 2 XL or an Android OS bug but it's happening on my Pixel 2 XL so I'm adding here.
I have the Google Play Store app set to automatically update apps when connected to WiFi but apps are not updating. I've been connected to my home wifi for several hours and there are still apps waiting to update.
Anyone else having this issue?
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I feel like it automatically downloads when on WiFi and connected to power even though there's no setting for power connected.
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I'm having this issue too....mine doesn't auto update...even when connected to power and wifi.

I have the same problem. I've literally tried everything I could think of.

Yes! Bump! I've actually been having this problem as far back as February (at least that's around when I noticed) and had been meaning to make a thread, but hadn't gotten to it 'til now; and XDA showed this thread when I was creating so, I'll be pleading here...
I, too, FOR THE LIFE of me can't correct this...!
My setup: running Oreo 8.1 May update, rooted, Flash kernel, TWRP 3.2.1-2 custom recovery, a few Magisk modules (see sig).
Troubleshooting: rebooted, plugged phone in, allowed all permissions and ability to modify system settings, I've changed it to auto-update apps "at any time" (both mobile data & wi-fi), when updating to May patch I wiped the System partition and flashed the May Full Factory image, cleared Play Store app cache, cleared Play Store app data, uninstalled Play Store updates, Disabled Play Store - then Enabled, uninstalled Google Play Services updates / reset to factory version, and finally manually updated Google Play Services.
Anyone, any thoughts/ideas/advice?! I had hoped the last 3 months' security patch updates might fix this, but since it hasn't, my last hope is here...! :begging:
P.S. I am hoping that flashing a full factory image with the -w intact/included is not the last and only option...

simplepinoi177 said:
Yes! Bump! I've actually been having this problem as far back as February (at least that's around when I noticed) and had been meaning to make a thread, but hadn't gotten to it 'til now; and XDA showed this thread when I was creating so, I'll be pleading here...
I, too, FOR THE LIFE of me can't correct this...!
My setup: running Oreo 8.1 May update, rooted, Flash kernel, TWRP 3.2.1-2 custom recovery, a few Magisk modules (see sig).
Troubleshooting: rebooted, allowed all permissions and ability to modify system settings, I've changed it to auto-update apps "at any time" (both mobile data & wi-fi), when updating to May patch I wiped the System partition and flashed the May Full Factory image, cleared Play Store app cache, cleared Play Store app data, uninstalled Play Store updates, Disabled Play Store - then Enabled, uninstalled Google Play Services updates / reset to factory version, and finally manually updated Google Play Services.
Anyone, any thoughts/ideas/advice?! I had hoped the last 3 months' security patch updates might fix this, but since it hasn't, my last hope is here...! :begging:
P.S. I am hoping that flashing a full factory image with the -w intact/included is not the last and only option...
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I've said it before that, for me at least, I've noticed it only auto updates when plugged in even if I have plenty of battery like greater than 50%. I'm set to auto update on WiFi only. I'll go into the app store and see I have a handful of update, plug in, and see them to start downloading.
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EeZeEpEe said:
I've said it before that, for my at least, I've noticed it only auto updates when plugged in even if I have plenty of battery like greater than 50%. I'm set to auto update on WiFi only. I'll go into the app store and see I have a handful of update, plug in, and see them to start downloading.
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I eventually noticed as well that it only updates when plugged in. I'm not sure if it has anything to do with how charged the battery is but I haven't looked too closely at that.

....yea...I've also plugged in as well, i'll edit to reflect that...
...BUT I think I'm onto something...does anyone/everyone that has this problem have Titanium Backup installed and running btw???

Same, only auto updates when plugged in...
I always have Titanium which is running normally... Awesome app!

Yea...I get that apps are really only automatically updating when plugged in. But assuming even that isn't allowing apps to automatically update....
i'm more wondering if @upperbladez and @smokeythebear3 have Titanium Backup installed; as that's what was stopping the updating the apps automatically....

simplepinoi177 said:
Yea...I get that apps are really only automatically updating when plugged in. But assuming even that isn't allowing apps to automatically update....
i'm more wondering if @upperbladez and @smokeythebear3 have Titanium Backup installed; as that's what was stopping the updating the apps automatically....
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I do not have Titanium Backup Installed...I don't have any power saver apps either. It's really agitating

upperbladez said:
I do not have Titanium Backup Installed...I don't have any power saver apps either. It's really agitating
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Yeah...I had really high hopes earlier as well, but found that it wasn't TB. Because there is a setting in the preferences that deals with auto-updating and it seems that, by default, it sets it to Disabled, but even after Enabling it, it hasn't gotten auto-update to work.
I had inadvertently thought it worked because, at the same time as the TB discovery, I reset to factory settings both Google Play Store and Google Play Services (as I have many times before). This seems to have the auto-update work once, but I can't get it to replicate or do it again after this first initial time. Also, it's hard to debug, troubleshoot, and test because I have to wait some time for a number of apps to need updating before I can see if it truly works or not.
I hope someone has an idea or thought that might explain why or help reach an explanation...

simplepinoi177 said:
Yeah...I had really high hopes earlier as well, but found that it wasn't TB. Because there is a setting in the preferences that deals with auto-updating and it seems that, by default, it sets it to Disabled, but even after Enabling it, it hasn't gotten auto-update to work.
I had inadvertently thought it worked because, at the same time as the TB discovery, I reset to factory settings both Google Play Store and Google Play Services (as I have many times before). This seems to have the auto-update work once, but I can't get it to replicate or do it again after this first initial time. Also, it's hard to debug, troubleshoot, and test because I have to wait some time for a number of apps to need updating before I can see if it truly works or not.
I hope someone has an idea or thought that might explain why or help reach an explanation...
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Yeah it's so agitating?

I think I figured it out....[GUIDE] included!
I think I figured it out (at least in my case) -- but I think it's probably applicable to most any other(s) who are having the same issue...
First of all, if you have Titanium Backup, make sure to set Default auto-update app to Enabled
Go to Menu
Preferences
Go to Restoration Settings
You will find Default auto-update mode in the section; 4th on the list within that section
Go to Google Play Store App Info
Clear Cache (inside Storage)
Clear Data (also inside Storage)
Disable the app
Click OK when warned that it will "replace this app with the factory version..."
Go to Settings, Apps & Notifications, See all ### apps
At the top right, select the 3 verticle dots and select "Show system"
Find and select Google Play Services
Clear Cache
Go back to App Info (back arrow; arrow pointing left), at the top right, select the 3 vertical dots and select "Uninstall updates"
Click OK when warned that it will "replace with the factory version..."
Reboot
Download the latest Google Play Services
HERE'S one place you can find it and/or you can Google search to find other copies yourself...
Pick the newest latest version (beta if you wish to be on bleeding edge but stability not ensured)
Choose the Android 8.0+ variant
Download the "arm64 + arm" & "nodpi" one
Install the latest Google Play Services using the file you downloaded
Reboot
Go back to Google Play Services App Info (show all ### apps, show system, etc.)
Clear Cache (of Google Play Services)
Go back to "show all ### apps"
Select the drop-down menu and select Disabled
Select Google Play Store
Clear Cache and Data (of Google Play Store inside Storage)
Plug Phone to charger
Launch Google Play Store
Select the 3 stacked horizontal lines on the top left and go to Settings
Select and configure how you wish to auto-update apps
Click on Play Store version (all the way on the bottom)
After pressing OK (it'll most likely say Play Store will update soon), it may or may not begin downloading components for the Play Store. After a bit, it may or may not actually begin auto-updating...
In the few instances I've done this and on the 2 pixel 2's I have access to, the auto-updating may begin soon after (within 2 minutes), or eventually (sorry for vague description, but I had thought these steps didn't work and wasn't paying attention and after a while, I saw it auto-updating!).
Also, it still seems that it'll auto-update only while plugged in charging. That particular bug/requirement hasn't been resolved, but as this is specifically an auto-update troubleshooting thread.......
Hope this helps any/all who is having the same issue. I hope (but am doubtful) that this will work for everyone; but if it doesn't, I'd have to say that it might be something with your ROM (stock or custom), settings (system or another app interfering [As I found out TB actually might/does]), or some very unique bug because this is probably the most comprehensive app reset for Google Play. It's kind of overkill, but you might have some luck going the "last resort" route and flashing the Full Factory image in hopes it'll fix the system and app comparability issues (if that is indeed the reason...).
In the end, I hope this helps any who might be having this issue....:victory::highfive:

I have this same issue. I tried wiping Google Play cache/data and had a hell of a time getting it to show my installed apps after that. I don't have TB installed so I'm not really sure what's going on. It's a PITA having to manually update apps all the time.

corywf said:
I have this same issue. I tried wiping Google Play cache/data and had a hell of a time getting it to show my installed apps after that. I don't have TB installed so I'm not really sure what's going on. It's a PITA having to manually update apps all the time.
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Yeah....but maybe uninstalling Google Play store (not just cache and data and actually reverting to an older version) and doing the same (sorta) towards Google Play Services is the critical difference (as shown in my guide)... Hopefully that sorts ya out...!:good:
Good luck to ya!

I'm set to auto update over WiFi, and I've never actually paid attention.. but my apps are always updated and I get the notification stating that 13 apps were updated... So it must be working on my end?
EDIT: Not sure if it would make a diff, but I am running latest DU...

Az Biker said:
I'm set to auto update over WiFi, and I've never actually paid attention.. but my apps are always updated and I get the notification stating that 13 apps were updated... So it must be working on my end?
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Yes, that's "the dream" . For us/me, that wasn't happening -- for whatever reason; whether it was set to do it over WiFi or both mobile & WiFi.
I used to not pay attention either, until I went and checked and kept finding a list of 50+ apps needing to update and/or all these apps were outdated every 3 or so days! Then I realized I hadn't been getting that which you are experiencing... And, as @corywf as stated, it can get quite tedious and annoying having to manually "Update all" every few days just to keep all the apps up-to-date! (Curious note: I never realized how many times in a small number of days certain apps actually update; it's like every 2 days! Which is nice and good to say towards the app as the devs are continuously working on it -- Instagram, Nextdoor, and Chrome come to mind -- but certainly rather annoying when manually "keeping up") Especially when we've all experienced these things happening automatically and in the background...

I had this issue since the Feb or March update I think but since flashing the May update, apps are back to updating automatically

Tebor said:
I had this issue since the Feb or March update I think but since flashing the May update, apps are back to updating automatically
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That's good! I believe it was around the same time I noticed the issue as well (although as said in my last post, this is usually something that is in the background and done automatically so I can only say it was around this point). I'm glad flashing the latest update worked -- I'm wondering, did you flash a Full Factory or an OTA? -- and hopefully it works for others. But, unfortunately, I had Full Factory flashed to the May update with no such luck. It took my guide (a little up above) to fix it on me and my gf's Pixel 2 (non-XL)...
Cheers! :highfive::victory::good:

Play Store stuck on "Download Pending"

OK, I"m baffled. I've looked everywhere for the solution, including all over this web site.
My SM-G960U running stock Android 9 periodically goes into a mode where it marks all app updates and other downloads as "Download Pending." After a while (measured in days) it downloads everything and goes back to normal for a while. This behavior occurs irregularly and appears to me to be unrelated to some change I made in settings. For a while, I was able to correct the problem by force-stopping the Play Store and clearing its cache, but lately, even that doesn't work. I've also tried force-stopping, clearing the cache and data; no luck. Somebody wrote on this web site "Just turn on battery saver and your apps will update." I don't see "battery saver" anywhere and "maximum power saving" mode won't even let me get to the play store. I've adjusted the apps permissions to everything on.
This time around it's been more than a week and I have 68 updates in "download pending."
Once again, I am running stock, have not attempted to root the device nor have I modified it with any ROMs. Auto-update is normally off. (I don't see the point in updating bloatware that I don't use.) However, this problem continues with it on. The problem also persists whether on cellular data or wifi and I've told the app to use either one.
Please help me solve a very frustrating problem. Thanks.

Moody Blue said:
OK, I"m baffled. I've looked everywhere for the solution, including all over this web site.
My SM-G960U running stock Android 9 periodically goes into a mode where it marks all app updates and other downloads as "Download Pending." After a while (measured in days) it downloads everything and goes back to normal for a while. This behavior occurs irregularly and appears to me to be unrelated to some change I made in settings. For a while, I was able to correct the problem by force-stopping the Play Store and clearing its cache, but lately, even that doesn't work. I've also tried force-stopping, clearing the cache and data; no luck. Somebody wrote on this web site "Just turn on battery saver and your apps will update." I don't see "battery saver" anywhere and "maximum power saving" mode won't even let me get to the play store. I've adjusted the apps permissions to everything on.
This time around it's been more than a week and I have 68 updates in "download pending."
Once again, I am running stock, have not attempted to root the device nor have I modified it with any ROMs. Auto-update is normally off. (I don't see the point in updating bloatware that I don't use.) However, this problem continues with it on. The problem also persists whether on cellular data or wifi and I've told the app to use either one.
Please help me solve a very frustrating problem. Thanks.
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I don't think battery saving will help, actually it will limit background processes. But that guy meant by "battery saver" an option called "Medium power saving", you can find it above the "maximum power saving" in power mode menu.
I had a similar problem, sometimes when I try to download an app, it says "download pending" so I go to "my apps & games", and I press "update all" then I press "stop", then I download the app again and everything works fine...

Moody Blue said:
OK, I"m baffled. I've looked everywhere for the solution, including all over this web site.
My SM-G960U running stock Android 9 periodically goes into a mode where it marks all app updates and other downloads as "Download Pending." After a while (measured in days) it downloads everything and goes back to normal for a while. This behavior occurs irregularly and appears to me to be unrelated to some change I made in settings. For a while, I was able to correct the problem by force-stopping the Play Store and clearing its cache, but lately, even that doesn't work. I've also tried force-stopping, clearing the cache and data; no luck. Somebody wrote on this web site "Just turn on battery saver and your apps will update." I don't see "battery saver" anywhere and "maximum power saving" mode won't even let me get to the play store. I've adjusted the apps permissions to everything on.
This time around it's been more than a week and I have 68 updates in "download pending."
Once again, I am running stock, have not attempted to root the device nor have I modified it with any ROMs. Auto-update is normally off. (I don't see the point in updating bloatware that I don't use.) However, this problem continues with it on. The problem also persists whether on cellular data or wifi and I've told the app to use either one.
Please help me solve a very frustrating problem. Thanks.
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Try clearing DATA for the play store and Google Play Services (Will probably have to log back in to Google Play)

Thanks, guys for helping. Turns out it appears to be my VPN, which was one of the first things I looked into.
Connections > More connection settings > VPN got me to a "Settings" icon which in turn allowed me to turn off "Block connections without VPN. I then turned off the VPN and the Play Store started DL-ing the updates.. Don't know why this is in device settings, rather than the app's settings, but it is.
I will work with the VPN provider to see if their app and the Play Store can play together nicely.
For the moment, at least, I'm calling this one "Solved."

Why would using a VPN prevent updating apps from the play store?

EpicSaga said:
Why would using a VPN prevent updating apps from the play store?
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the same thing happens to me when im at work. i cant download stuff from certain places including the play store. My employers wifi is locked down and dosnt allow for google services when using a vpn. and i have tried this with PIA and the built in one

What is PIA and what is the one that is built in?

EpicSaga said:
What is PIA and what is the one that is built in?
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PIA is Private Internet Access, ( a VPN) I had exactly the same problem with the Playstore too, could only get it to get the downloads started by turning PIA off

EpicSaga said:
What is PIA and what is the one that is built in?
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private internet access. not built in, i pay $6.95 a month for it. rather happy with it. use it on all my devices

dave2103 said:
PIA is Private Internet Access, ( a VPN) I had exactly the same problem with the Playstore too, could only get it to get the downloads started by turning PIA off
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My phone didn't do that running Android 8, it was after the update in Android 9. Is there any way around this? What if the Wi-Fi router used the VPN setting and the phone was just receiving that WIFI VPN signal. So the phone would not have VPN on it, would you still need to disable the VPN in the router settings to download and update apps?