Hi,
I've disabled my Location and Google Play Services battery consumption reduced.
I've noticed that every time when I unlocked the phone, the system tries to access GPS - I can see for 1 second the the location symbol appears in the notification toolbar.
Previously I owned a G2 and didn't have the issue, with G2 you unlock of the phone and G2 doesn't try to start GPS, the location symbol doesn't appear in the notification toolbar! simple and battery efficient. Not the case with G3. Don't know what stupidity they did or what they've modified.
I don't know if is a Lollipop issue or a bug in LG G3 software.
It is stupid and drains battery fast.
I want to keep the Location active because of geotagging photo information or for using googlemasps. But it is annoying to start manually the location when using this.
I hope there is a workaround to this issue.
Tks
I'm using
5.0
SW
V20f-226-01
only to my phone happens this? or is a global issue?
did anyone experience this issue or I'm the only one?
did someone see this until now?
Use Disable Services and disable that service under Google Play Services
DelBoy said:
Use Disable Services and disable that service under Google Play Services
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Not only that you must be root to use the application, but it is not ok in my opinion to have this functionality on the phone.
I get 2-3 days of full battery with location turned off!
With location turned on only 1 maybe 2 days!!! big difference !!!
Still my question remains...
Is this a bug in LG software or it happens only on my phone? and what's the workaround for this?
If you dont have root, have in the world you have figured that Google Play Services is trying to access GPS for one second?
Google playServices accesses GPS and drains battery
DelBoy said:
If you dont have root, have in the world you have figured that Google Play Services is trying to access GPS for one second?
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With Location ON it can be seen in the Settings->General->Battery->Battery Usage , that GooglePlayServices eats up to 20% battery when location is on.(daily usage) and as I've said previously the GPS is accessed every time you unlock the phone and go to home screen. You can see it in the notification toolbar the symbol of the GPS is ON for 1 second. I think that is the reason why it eats up so much battery.
When Location is OFF the Goolge Play Services (that includes also the Location Manager) eats up only 4% battery consumption and you don't see the GPS active each time you unlock the phone
From this I figured it out that GooglePlayServices has a bug or the sofware phone has a bug.
Is this happen to others?
how location is working on your side?
Hello...
are you experiencing the same issue? or I'm the only one?
You are the only one.
Make factory reset and see will it solve.
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You are the only one.
Make factory reset and see will it solve.
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youp, tks , that solved the problem! I did a previous factory reset but after the new update I have to do it again.
This is not ok. Every time you get an update you must do a factory reset... not so ok.
My battery lasts now about 3 days. Google Play Services eats about only 2-3% of battery.
This is awesome!
dantandi said:
youp, tks , that solved the problem! I did a previous factory reset but after the new update I have to do it again.
This is not ok. Every time you get an update you must do a factory reset... not so ok.
My battery lasts now about 3 days. Google Play Services eats about only 2-3% of battery.
This is awesome!
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I unchecked precise location (gps and network) and checked battery saving mode (wifi network based location) only in Location and this saved my batterylife.
fixed
gee2012 said:
I unchecked precise location (gps and network) and checked battery saving mode (wifi network based location) only in Location and this saved my batterylife.
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I like the geo tag posision to use with the camera application so... I like the location to stay ON. the only bug that I had was it was accessing gps every time I unlock the screen.
Now works ok
service type name from GooglePlay
DelBoy said:
Use Disable Services and disable that service under Google Play Services
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Dow you know what is the name of the service?
I've disabled
LoctionWearableListnerService and
LocationHistoryInjectorService
and bug is fixed!
but after some time ... even with this services disabled ... the problem reappears.
It is like some other service is reEnable them again even though in DisableService they are off(red).
Does anyone know what's the service name that should be killed?
It's not Play Services, it's some app that uses its API. For me it was LG Weather app.
I fixed it by setting my location manually in its settings.
is not the weather widget
YaDr said:
It's not Play Services, it's some app that uses its API. For me it was LG Weather app.
I fixed it by setting my location manually in its settings.
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is this a service or the widget weather?
I've removed the widget from the screen. The same!
Even placed the location manually in the settings of the widget.
Is there other place that I should be looking?
After all it shouldn't be the widget weather app. It refreshes the location in 3h interval.
I've tried also with the ROM fresh installed, with no new app installed still the same. GPS pups up!
Really stupid!
Has anyone fixed this by now ?or at least identified the cause?
Problem SOLVED
Come on guys!
Just go And turn SmartLock (Google) OFF in trust agents in security settings
As easy as pie!
Playing around with DisableService, I've stopped other services that were in use by GooglePlay.
Android system pointed out that GooglePlay has an error and needs to be updated from PlayStore.
I've updated GooglePlay from PlayStore and I don't have this issue anymore!!!
I leave my location ON all the time, I don't have battery drain anymore!!!
I think is a bug in GooglePlay version application that the ROM is coming with.
As soon as you get(update) GooglePlay form playstore, the phone behaves normally.
This way worked for me.
@Mo3ein - I had already SmartLock OFF. It's not from SmartLock
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I use google map enabled GPS and Location, but after returning to idle, the battery drain fast. If restarted, it will back to normal.
Plz help me.
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you need to close the process of google maps, and desactivate the gps and location serives
... and, eventually, sign out Latitude
install a task killer will solve your problem i guess?
ctinro said:
... and, eventually, sign out Latitude
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+1 on that one.
Basicaly after using the Google Maps to avoid the battery drain you need to do the following:
1. Deactivate GPS
2. Sign Out of the Google Latitute (its the main battery drainer since adds a additional active "Maps" service)
3. Kill the running services regarding Maps. But dont donwload a 3th party task killer as it is highly possible that the task kiler to drain your battery as fast as the Google Maps. I would recomend you to use the build in task manager. Go to Setting -> Applications -> Running Services -> scroll arround and kill the Maps proceses. Eventualy, Android is likely to start the Maps service again cause its one of its system ones but once you've kill it it will prevent the battery drain.
4. Go to Setting -> Location & security and make sure that the "Use GPS satelites" option is deactivated after you are done using your navigation.
Kinda...that's it
Hope it helps.
Cheers!
the Google Latitute is taking alot of battery use
This is a bug in Google Maps since 5.4. It shouldn't access the GPS in the background. Disabling Latitude doesn't help either. You have to force the GPS off at the system level or kill the Maps process.
I am in need of Android guru assistance. Currently Google Maps app will not update/detect current location and repeatedly request 'Please enable a My Location source in system settings'. Location will only be updated if GPS is turned on (which was not required until this happened)
I have ticked the all the settings under the 'Locations' tab, but still the same occurs. Several apps are affected by this i.e Foursquare (unable to get location), Waze (crash upon launch).
The issue surfaced after I accidentally 'killed' the Maps app using HTC task killer, and tinkered with the Locations Settings under the Maps app.
Tried to return to default values by cross referring to a HTC Butterfly, but problem persist. Anyone has any ideas? Thanks in advance
Device : HTC One X
Rom : Stock Sense 4+
Unrooted phone
There is an option in settings to reinstall gps service. Setting > location >reinstall
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Hi Vceck,
I've already tried reinstalling as suggested. Problem still persists. Google Maps (and apps relying on its positioning) will not work with solely wifi/mobile network and requires GPS. It's quite a weird one, since I believe GMaps positioning can use wifi. Or am I wrong?
VDread said:
I am in need of Android guru assistance. Currently Google Maps app will not update/detect current location and repeatedly request 'Please enable a My Location source in system settings'. Location will only be updated if GPS is turned on (which was not required until this happened)
I have ticked the all the settings under the 'Locations' tab, but still the same occurs. Several apps are affected by this i.e Foursquare (unable to get location), Waze (crash upon launch).
The issue surfaced after I accidentally 'killed' the Maps app using HTC task killer, and tinkered with the Locations Settings under the Maps app.
Tried to return to default values by cross referring to a HTC Butterfly, but problem persist. Anyone has any ideas? Thanks in advance
Device : HTC One X
Rom : Stock Sense 4+
Unrooted phone
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Try dissabling FAST BOOT from settings>power then restart the phone and a message asking permission if you agree that google use your location shold appear
I'm having problems with location too! Today all of the sudden all google apps ask me to enable google location services but they are already enabled and there's just no way to get it working..
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internetjlmb said:
Try dissabling FAST BOOT from settings>power then restart the phone and a message asking permission if you agree that google use your location shold appear
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Hi internetjlmb,
Already did as you suggested, no change. Thanks for the tip tho'.
Now a grimmer issue surfaces -- the 'Maps' app is draining the battery, crazy fast. Unplugged my phone from charger at7.00AM with minimal usage (two short phone calls, no mobile network / wifi enabled), by 8.00AM battery was down to 91%, with 'Maps' taking up 71% of the usage. Screenshot is attached.
I have to disable the 'Maps' app for the time being as everytime I enable it, battery goes down and phone overheats, I kid you not.
Already sent a feedback to Google, but not hoping for any response. Anyone else knows how to solve this predicament? Just to confirm, whenever we 'tick' the 'Google's location service' under the [Location] tab, should it ask any question such as 'Are you sure?' or anything. Mine just ticked and did nothing.
zodiark said:
I'm having problems with location too! Today all of the sudden all google apps ask me to enable google location services but they are already enabled and there's just no way to get it working..
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Hi zodiark,
Same issue here. My Location can only be updated if GPS is activated. Which is a bummer. I don't think GPS is necessar to just update location. Or am I wrong on this?
VDread said:
Just to confirm, whenever we 'tick' the 'Google's location service' under the [Location] tab, should it ask any question such as 'Are you sure?' or anything. Mine just ticked and did nothing.
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In my case I have two options to enable google location services. One of them asks me to accept the terms of service of google, but again nothing happens.
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Same here. Only the 'Location & Google Search' tab will prompt a question when clicked. I had to disable Maps app due to its excessive battery usage.
Hi,
Anyone with a solution to this? This annoys the heck out of me. Is it a phone or Google settings issue?
Thanks.
Issue with recent Google services update
Having exactly the same problem as described by VDread. Folks over Android Central are reporting similar problems and suggest that the problem is with recent Google update and that google is aware of this and that they are working on it.
I was going to do a factory reset but perhaps I settle for disabling Maps for now.
Hi Kreisi,
Thanks for the info. At least me and Zodiark arent the only one with this issue. This however beckons the question : why only some units affected, as opposed to a global scale issue. Hmm.
I have just realized that I am experiencing the same issue. It could also be responsible for the poor battery life on my phone...
Welcome to the club svucinic811. Hope Google / HTC can resolve this soon
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Welcome to the club svucinic811. Hope Google / HTC can resolve this soon
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Well it comforts me to see that there are others and that this is Google related, and that they're working on it. It would be more annoying in the long run if this was just another messed up update by HTC and we had to wait for the next one, hoping it will make the phone usable (like it was supposed to be). I do however hope the fix will come SOON -- my phone seems to be awake all the time, all the location-related services are non-functional, the battery life is piss poor.
Svucinic811,
Disable the 'Maps' apps for the time being. That has been draining my phone's battery. That should help alleviate the heavy usage -- as the phone tend to overheat even in sleep mode. Weird error. Reports from Android Central says that a certain folder/data was somehow misplaced by Google when HTC phones are updated. Could be a Sense v Google settings issue.
VDread said:
Svucinic811,
Disable the 'Maps' apps for the time being. That has been draining my phone's battery. That should help alleviate the heavy usage -- as the phone tend to overheat even in sleep mode. Weird error. Reports from Android Central says that a certain folder/data was somehow misplaced by Google when HTC phones are updated. Could be a Sense v Google settings issue.
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Thanks, will do and see if it helps. It's not like I care about the stupid Maps anyway...I've had my share of nonsense like this, my next phone will be iPhone or a dumbphone.
Yeah, I've read that thread @ Android Central Forums and that "Network Location" app is in the Downloaded Apps section for me as well.
Same problem here. Can´t get a location and the battery consumption is in the highs!
I had to freeze maps with Titanium Backup for now. Are there other devices being affected by this "bug"? Anyone know if this is google side or HTC side?
Warell said:
Same problem here. Can´t get a location and the battery consumption is in the highs!
I had to freeze maps with Titanium Backup for now. Are there other devices being affected by this "bug"? Anyone know if this is google side or HTC side?
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Apparently also affecting the One, One S and even the EVO.
Some LG phones are also affected. Could be an issue between Google vs ROM settings.
My phone returned to normal after I disabled the 'Maps' apps. The downside is, I can't use Google Now, Google Maps and any apps thats related to those. Even Waze. Total bummer.
According to Android Central (http://forums.androidcentral.com/an...w-keeps-saying-my-location-service-off-2.html), the issue is the recent Google update caused some data folders i.e Network Locations to appear in user's 'Downloaded Apps' folder instead of the Android system.
Factory resetting wont help either -- most have the issue resurface after several hours of use.
Owh well, the issue turned my smartphone to a semi-smartphone.
I seem to not having this issue..
or that's just me that didn't realize it? -_-
although yea i must turn on GPS to be able to pinpoint my location
even if i want to update current location i need that stupud GPS to be on
hi i have one m9 with firmware 1.32.709.15 which is an asian version.
i have problem with its overheating and battery.
when i check power usage there is always Google Play Services at the top. when i look at into it i see that GoogleAnalyticsService is running and device is overheating. when i kill this service device temperature became more acceptable and battery lasts longer a lot.
but then this service of course appears again and i have to control always and kill it to use phone smoothly.
anyone with advices will make me so happy.
thanks in advance.
Try downloading this app
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=cn.wq.disableservice
as there is a known issue with Google play services constantly running. Download this app
and disable systemupdateservice in Google services and see if that helps. You need root I believe though.
brittoking said:
Try downloading this app
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=cn.wq.disableservice
as there is a known issue with Google play services constantly running. Download this app
and disable systemupdateservice in Google services and see if that helps. You need root I believe though.
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Thanks for your reply but i dont have root access and i dont want to unlock bootlader i had some warranty problems with my m8 due to bootloader unlock.
Maybe any other Solutions?
I've had an LG G4, model H815 at Android 5.1 for the past two months. So far extremely satisfied, but it's been acting up for the past few days - battery drains for over 20% while I sleep for ~7 hours, and apparently Android System (specifically the GPS) keeps it awake and drains over 60% of the battery.
I keep GPS on high accuracy and I use the smart settings the phone has, but up until a week ago or so it didn't do any harm and it only lost about 2-5% every night - Same goes (more or less) for my previous phone. LG's subsidiary in my country just pushed an update a few days ago, so it may be relevant, but I don't recall if it happened before it or not (sorry).
I'm attaching a few pictures to this post, if there's any app you want me to run and post its output just let me know.
Any idea why this is or how to solve it?
Here is mine:
Okay...? So any idea why it happens to me but doesn't to you? This is a troubleshooting thread.
Same here. GPS in Android System seems to be nearly always on (up to 8 hours GPS usage, while I left the phone idle, without any App started) - with a huge battery drain.
I also suspect the firmware update received recently, since I became aware of this issue only some days ago. Using the phone, the GPS icon comes up every 2 Minutes or so and stays on for about 20 Seconds. That's definitely something I never observed before.
I googled a lot and found some articles describing similar problems. However, no working solution was given.
Here is what I did with nearly no impact:
- motion sensor and compass calibration
- cache wipe
- termination of the google app process, since I thought this might be the culprit (even cleared data)
- switched off google location tracking and smart lock
- switched off Android Device Manager under Device Administrators
Then, I did something that looks promising:
- I de-installed the updates of Google Play services and re-installed the latest version from Play Store. It was the Version 7.8.99 (2134222-220).
This solved the problem at least temporarily. I had a whole day where the system behaved as it should. However, this morning the problem came back.
- I de-installed the update of Google Play services once again, but this time without updating to a newer Version. I currently run version 7.5.71 (1955121-448).
To my surprise, even after reboot, the system does not ask me to update, so I leave it now as it is.
And the problem - again - seems to be gone. However, I am not sure whether this - again - will only be temporarily...
I think a good starting point for problem analysis might be to compare the running Versions of Google Play Services. What do you think?
Thanks,
toshiuser
I'm currently running Google Play services v. 7.8.99 (2134222-440). While writing this I'm clearing its cache and data and uninstalling updates, brings it back to the same stock version you mentioned. I'll see if it helps and keep you updated. Thanks a lot!
I think this has to do with carrier iq.. Not 100% sure though, but maybe you guys should look into it. I know my android system usage was really high also. Then I removed carrier iq and it went way down.
idowolf said:
I'm currently running Google Play services v. 7.8.99 (2134222-440). While writing this I'm clearing its cache and data and uninstalling updates, brings it back to the same stock version you mentioned. I'll see if it helps and keep you updated. Thanks a lot!
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I also run Google Play services v. 7.8.99 (2134222-440) and also noticed GPS is On ever now and then even @ home. I wanted the latest Google Play Services and I enabled this Google Play Services drain fix. So far have not seen the GPS turn On without reason. Hope this will solve my overnight 20 % battery drained.
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I had the same issue you're having. If you're rooted, it's an easy fix. Download any app ops application from the play store, and go in and disable the location permission for Android System. Has no effect on the device knowing your location whatsoever, and fixes the wakelock/battery drain from Android System.
Hope this helps!
uly609 said:
I think this has to do with carrier iq..
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Thanks, but I cannot find a process called carrier iq on my phone (probably because my phone is an unbranded european retail version?).
rogconnect said:
I also run Google Play services v. 7.8.99 (2134222-440) and also noticed GPS is On ever now and then even @ home. I wanted the latest Google Play Services and I enabled this Google Play Services drain fix. So far have not seen the GPS turn On without reason. Hope this will solve my overnight 20 % battery drained.
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Sorry, but I do not understand. Version 7.8.99 (2134222-440) has the problems (see post from idowolf). What did you enable as the "Google Play Services drain fix"?
mcnick0495 said:
I had the same issue you're having. If you're rooted, it's an easy fix. Download any app ops application from the play store, and go in and disable the location permission for Android System. Has no effect on the device knowing your location whatsoever, and fixes the wakelock/battery drain from Android System.
Hope this helps!
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This sounds promising, but I'm not planning to root my phone (at least as long as there are chances for other solutions).
One update from my side: Still running Google Play Services Stock version 7.5.71 (1955121-448) and everything still seems to be ok. No battery drain from GPS. However, I am still not convinced that this will last long...
Thanks,
toshiuser
toshiuser said:
Thanks, but I cannot find a process called carrier iq on my phone (probably because my phone is an unbranded european retail version?).
Sorry, but I do not understand. Version 7.8.99 (2134222-440) has the problems (see post from idowolf). What did you enable as the "Google Play Services drain fix"?
This sounds promising, but I'm not planning to root my phone (at least as long as there are chances for other solutions).
One update from my side: Still running Google Play Services Stock version 7.5.71 (1955121-448) and everything still seems to be ok. No battery drain from GPS. However, I am still not convinced that this will last long...
Thanks,
toshiuser
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if you don't intend to root i got nothing much to say.
uly609 said:
I think this has to do with carrier iq.. Not 100% sure though, but maybe you guys should look into it. I know my android system usage was really high also. Then I removed carrier iq and it went way down.
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No carrier iq here and I've had the same issue a while back.
Update: No Problems with Stock Version of Google Play Services. Everything worked flawlessly the past few days - no battery drain.
Now reinstalled the current Version 7.8.99 (2134222-440) from Play Store to see if problems come back. I will keep you updated...
Last Update:
Google play Services 7.8.99 (2134222-440) is definitely faulty, at least in my configuration. “GPS always on“ and the huge battery drain almost immediately came back after reinstalling it. I was only able to achieve SOT of 2 and a half hours while GPS was active for several hours (in idle mode!).
Switched back to 7.5.71 (1955121-448), which works great, and will stay there with double SOT.
I did not see many posts regarding problems with Google play Services 7.8.99 (2134222-440), so this is either a rare problem or this is the reason why we read the many complaints about LG G4's supposedly “poor“ battery...
Hope that Google is aware of this problem and fixes it soon...
toshiuser said:
Last Update:
Google play Services 7.8.99 (2134222-440) is definitely faulty, at least in my configuration. “GPS always on“ and the huge battery drain almost immediately came back after reinstalling it. I was only able to achieve SOT of 2 and a half hours while GPS was active for several hours (in idle mode!).
Switched back to 7.5.71 (1955121-448), which works great, and will stay there with double SOT.
I did not see many posts regarding problems with Google play Services 7.8.99 (2134222-440), so this is either a rare problem or this is the reason why we read the many complaints about LG G4's supposedly “poor“ battery...
Hope that Google is aware of this problem and fixes it soon...
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Did you tried (448) latest version..at least its same as 7.5.71(448)
faizalotai said:
Did you tried (448) latest version..at least its same as 7.5.71(448)
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Google play Store only offers me (440). How can I change to (448) in play store?
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Google play Store only offers me (440). How can I change to (448) in play store?
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GmsCore (448)
This Night, I received Updates for Google Maps and Photos and a notification that these versions require an update of Google Play Services, perfect...
Therefore, I will give the Version (448) a try. Hopefully it does something better than the (440)...
mcnick0495 said:
I had the same issue you're having. If you're rooted, it's an easy fix. Download any app ops application from the play store, and go in and disable the location permission for Android System. Has no effect on the device knowing your location whatsoever, and fixes the wakelock/battery drain from Android System.
Hope this helps!
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Thanks for this. It brought my Android System under control and significantly improved my battery life...well, closer to where it was before I rooted!
No luck,
even with Version (448) the problem persists.
I examined the problem again:
When I disconnect the phone from the power supply in the morning, it usually works normally. During the course of the day, at some point (not predictable), the GPS icon shows up for 2 minutes, grays out, disappears and comes back after a short time. Being in this state, Android system drains the battery due to high GPS usage (even if no app is active and even if locked in idle mode).
Now the interesting part:
If I open Google maps being in the problem state, it just takes 1 or 2 seconds to obtain a GPS fix. If I close it right after the fix, the GPS icon is gone and the phone behaves normally - sometimes for several hours. When GPS icon comes again and stays, I simply repeat the process.
For me it seems, that location service in Google play services is faulty since it sometimes cannot obtain a GPS fix whereas the algorithm in Google maps does it instantly.
toshiuser said:
No luck,
even with Version (448) the problem persists.
I examined the problem again:
When I disconnect the phone from the power supply in the morning, it usually works normally. During the course of the day, at some point (not predictable), the GPS icon shows up for 2 minutes, grays out, disappears and comes back after a short time. Being in this state, Android system drains the battery due to high GPS usage (even if no app is active and even if locked in idle mode).
Now the interesting part:
If I open Google maps being in the problem state, it just takes 1 or 2 seconds to obtain a GPS fix. If I close it right after the fix, the GPS icon is gone and the phone behaves normally - sometimes for several hours. When GPS icon comes again and stays, I simply repeat the process.
For me it seems, that location service in Google play services is faulty since it sometimes cannot obtain a GPS fix whereas the algorithm in Google maps does it instantly.
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Very well described, I am seeing the exact same problem. I even upgraded to play services 448 like you.
Unlike many modern versions of Android, I can find no three-tiered setting for GPS accuracy. I'm looking to set it to "Device Only" but it's either off or on, with a few additional location options but nothing more for GPS.
I'm using lineage 17, the second to last update, on a Samsung Tab 4 and I just want to restrict the device to the system GPS app GPS I've set (but it keeps drifting).
neocortex08 said:
Unlike many modern versions of Android, I can find no three-tiered setting for GPS accuracy. I'm looking to set it to "Device Only" but it's either off or on, with a few additional location options but nothing more for GPS.
I'm using lineage 17, the second to last update, on a Samsung Tab 4 and I just want to restrict the device to the system GPS app GPS I've set (but it keeps drifting).
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I don't see any android 10 distro with the old settings (high precision/ device only/energy saving)
GApps installed?
kurtn said:
I don't see any android 10 distro with the old settings (high precision/ device only/energy saving)
GApps installed?
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Yes, Gapps installed and working well (version for Android 10, nano),but I'm not sure google settings would change what would be in the device system settings. I guess I'm just looking for some way to force that missing setting without having to resort to tin foil around the device.
neocortex08 said:
Yes, Gapps installed and working well (version for Android 10, nano),but I'm not sure google settings would change what would be in the device system settings. I guess I'm just looking for some way to force that missing setting without having to reset to tin foil around the device.
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No matter what settings you change, Google knows your location.
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No matter what settings you change, Google knows your location.
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I'm not tin-foil-hat-concerned with Google knowing my location; I'm referring to the systemized GPS app I installed to be able to determine the location I set. Which it can currently, and can usually continue to do when I can set the device to take GPS from "device only". In this case it shows me on the map "rubberbanding" between my actual location and the location I've set about 100 feet away. This is because the OS is allowing the device to try and locate its own location.
neocortex08 said:
I'm not tin-foil-hat-concerned with Google knowing my location; I'm referring to the systemized GPS app I installed to be able to determine the location I set. Which it can currently, and can usually continue to do when I can set the device to take GPS from "device only". In this case it shows me on the map "rubberbanding" between my actual location and the location I've set about 100 feet away. This is because the OS is allowing the device to try and locate its own location.
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Oh, location spoofing
https://f-droid.org/app/com.wesaphzt.privatelocation
GPS drains battery
With previous (before 17) it was possible to set the location service to be switched on, but only use cell data.
When I use the gps device it drains my battery much faster.
Therefore: How can I leave the location service on, but DO NOT USE the gps device in LOS 17 ????
Thanks in advance
Chris
Chris56 said:
How can I leave the location service on, but DO NOT USE the gps device in LOS 17 ????
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+1
luckysoul777 said:
+1
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Do you try to spoof your location? And why? What location providers do you have? GApps?
I guess your reply refers to my question.
Maybe I was not clear.
With former LOS versions I was able to explicitly choose whether to use the (battery draining) gps receiver for my location or not.
I have several other sources of location information (gsm cell based and wifi based) usually with less accuracy. But I may prefer theses under certain circumstances because of less power consumption. I Don't use google but microg.
kurtn said:
Do you try to spoof your location? And why? What location providers do you have? GApps?
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No. I am not trying to spoof anything. I have an automation program called Tasker on my S4. When I was on stock Samsung ROM (5.0.1), I was able to use the "location mode" in Tasker to switch between high accuracy and battery save. If Tasker detected I was running Google Maps, it switched on high accuracy. If not, it switched over to battery save. From what I can tell, high accuracy used GPS + network and battery save used network only.
Now, I'm on LOS 17.1 and battery save would turn on GPS too. It seems the only way to not use GPS is to turn off location mode altogether. This makes me wonder what the differences are between Device Only and Battery Save modes. Since I cannot tell, I am assuming both modes are provided for backward compatibility to Tasker users but the underlining Android 10 doesn't differentiate them.
I am suspecting with Android 10, there are only 3 modes.
* GPS + network
* GPS
* OFF
Thus, if one needs the location service, GPS must be used.
I raised this question elsewhere. Some people actually told me that GPS doesn't consume much power if it's just turned on but not being used, e.g. by Google Maps. I have no way to verify if they are right.
luckysoul777 said:
No. I am not trying to spoof anything. I have an automation program called Tasker on my S4. When I was on stock Samsung ROM (5.0.1), I was able to use the "location mode" in Tasker to switch between high accuracy and battery save. If Tasker detected I was running Google Maps, it switched on high accuracy. If not, it switched over to battery save. From what I can tell, high accuracy used GPS + network and battery save used network only.
Now, I'm on LOS 17.1 and battery save would turn on GPS too. It seems the only way to not use GPS is to turn off location mode altogether. This makes me wonder what the differences are between Device Only and Battery Save modes. Since I cannot tell, I am assuming both modes are provided for backward compatibility to Tasker users but the underlining Android 10 doesn't differentiate them.
I am suspecting with Android 10, there are only 3 modes.
* GPS + network
* GPS
* OFF
Thus, if one needs the location service, GPS must be used.
I raised this question elsewhere. Some people actually told me that GPS doesn't consume much power if it's just turned on but not being used, e.g. by Google Maps. I have no way to verify if they are right.
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Network location is not part of lineageOS. You can add it with GApps or microG. Have you?
Enabling location does not power the satellite receivers continuously. It really needs battery. The job of your tasker script is done by android 10 automatically. If you suspected apps to drain battery with GPS, disable their location permission!
kurtn said:
Network location is not part of lineageOS. You can add it with GApps or microG. Have you?
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I'm using Gapps, the nano package. Do you know which one comes with network location? I can't tell because this comparison chart doesn't show it for any packages, https://github.com/opengapps/opengapps/wiki/Package-Comparison
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If you suspected apps to drain battery with GPS, disable their location permission!
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The reason I preferred to keep it on battery save instead of off completely in the old days was that if I ever lost my phone, I wanted to be able to track it. Now with Android 10's mandatory GPS for location service, if I want to disable abusive apps from requesting unnecessary location service, which app should I avoid disabling? Which app is giving out my phone's location if I am tracking it remotely?
Thank you
luckysoul777 said:
I'm using Gapps, the nano package. Do you know which one comes with network location? I can't tell because this comparison chart doesn't show it for any packages, https://github.com/opengapps/opengapps/wiki/Package-Comparison
The reason I preferred to keep it on battery save instead of off completely in the old days was that if I ever lost my phone, I wanted to be able to track it. Now with Android 10's mandatory GPS for location service, if I want to disable abusive apps from requesting unnecessary location service, which app should I avoid disabling? Which app is giving out my phone's location if I am tracking it remotely? Thank you
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I think the answer to both questions is Google play services. com.google.android.gms It's the mightiest app on your phone. I avoid installing it.
kurtn said:
I think the answer to both questions is Google play services. com.android.google.gms It's the mightiest app on your phone. I avoid installing it.
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I still see one drawback with very selectively granting apps location service. For example, I do want to grant Chrome location service to facilitate better search. If I'm indoor, wouldn't GPS without a clear view of the sky trying very hard to get a fix and thus burn more power than necessary? With that said, can High Accuracy (GPS + network) actually be more power efficient under Android 10 than Battery Save (GPS only)? This is assuming Chrome would give up on GPS when it can't get a fix and be happy with just network while Battery Save would keep trying to get a fix with GPS. Again, this is just my assumption.