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Installing custom roms and "low on memory" warning

I decided to try my first custom ROM... (installing virtous) and have a few questions/issues:
1) I started with a Nandroid backup.
2) I did a full titanium backup
3) I used ROM manager to install Virtous (did a full system swipe)...
Ok.. here is where I am having my issues
After the install, I went back to the marketplace and installed titanium backup.
What option should I restore? I would like to get all the widgets and data restored. I tried restore all apps+system data but I am wondering if that is reinstalling the bloatware that virtous removed. If so, what are the correct options in Titanium backup I should use?
Next, I tried to reinstall everything but I got that dreaded low on storage and then out of storage space error. My phone has lots of storage both internal and on the SD card - so the restore (I am guessing) failed at some indeterminate point. Most of my widgets were not loading properly (beautiful widget, pure calendar, multi-icon etc) after the attempted restore.
Regardless, even if I clean-up the widgets, the low memory message persisted so I was left with no choice but to revert to my previous nandroid backup .
So... how do you install a custom rom and easily reestablish your previous state/settings without getting the low/ out of storage warning?
Also, one of my goals is to get a deodexed rom so I can install custom themes (e.g., battery mods, etc). Can I just flash the deodexed stock rom over my current rom (I did not understand deodexed when I first upgraded to froyo) without having to do a swipe? Will I run into any issues?
Thanks

I tried again with less apps/ data and still have no luck.
I did a restore all apps and system data from titanium, got a low storage than out of storage error (the phone has over 60% of its storage available so I know I am nowhere near close to actually using all the storage).
When titanium completed, most apps forced close (gmail, rom manager, etc) so I assume the storage error is impacting the restore.
Back to my nandroid backup again.
If I am running stock Froyo, can I just flash a new sense based froyo without wiping? (trying to find a way to experiment and really want to get a deodexed rom installed)

When new ROM is flashed, in TB, try reinstalling only user apps, not system apps.
Why?
The new ROM you flash and the ROM you are coming from should both have system apps already in them, so why reinstall system apps from the old ROM that most likely exist in the new ROM?

But how do I reestablish the previous settings? Or do I have to reconfigure all my accounts, etc each time I install a new rom.
Thanks

Me too. How to correct?
uncommon 1.1 on my phone is doing same thing. 1.0 had no problem.

Just a theory as I haven't tried to install another ROM...
I noticed the touchdown data file on my phone was quite big (>70mb) - it appears that when touchdown's data file gets very large, the message appears more often (looks likes there is a bug in Android with large data-sets). I cleared touchdown's data and resynced which shrunk the data file to ~12mb. I reinstalled all the apps I removed to try and eliminate the memory error and so far have been running smoothly.
When I have some time, I am going to try another ROM and see if I can restore without any storage issues. I still am curious how everyone resets their settings from ROM to ROM (or do they manually configure everything each time)

After poking around in astro file manager, contacts(cross-linked mess), and uninstalling some rarely used programs all to no avail......
I fixed my "low on program memory" notification by emptying my deleted items in the mail app- a hotmail account that is rarely used.
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siteexperts said:
But how do I reestablish the previous settings? Or do I have to reconfigure all my accounts, etc each time I install a new rom.
Thanks
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To be on the safe side, just reinstall only apps, with or without data. There is no real point in wiping days, and yet reinstalling system apps and data. Kind of defeats the purpose. And yes, manually add accounts. Takes more time, but minimizes conflicts. Shouldn't take more than 30 minutes, which is a small price to pay to eliminate potential headaches.
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I've run into this as well. In fact it was the original reason I decided to move forward with rooting my phone since I had to wipe it anyway. Has anyone looked into what program monitors this and flags the error? Is memory not being reported correctly, or is there a tolerance that maybe we need to tweak in the code somewhere?

[Q] Can I free up System ROM memory?

Okay so in Titanium Backup my free System ROM memory is 229MB. SD Card Maid says 211MB free. Im not sure why they both have different values but, can I make any of these unused MB converted to usable system space for more apps? I've tried making some apps system apps through Titanium Backup and that takes more ROM memory and makes the used internal memory less, but that just makes the apps unusable. Im using CM7 Nightly and CWM Recovery. Thanks for the help.

Well I probably found an answer in this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=855424 but if anybody has another suggestion .....

Sure you can. I recommend using Titanium Backup to uninstall system apps. Be sure to make a full backup using whichever recovery you currently are using jiust encase you delete something important. I removed apps related to live wallpapers, friend streams, twitter etc. Features I don't use. Hope this helps.

I forgot to ask. Do you have a SD-EXT partition set up? May want to look into that.

Removing system apps doesn't free up storage for installing user apps. You can manually move apps into the system partition if you want, but you have to redo that after that app gets upgraded. The other option is to play with MTD partition size as mentioned in the thread you found.

You can't flash the apps to system/data?

sednafx said:
You can't flash the apps to system/data?
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/system/app is where they'd go. You don't necessarily need to flash them there, you can use Titanium or a root-capable file explorer to move them. Some apps need some extra steps to work with their native libraries though. In addition the problem I mentioned of updates going back to /data/app instead of updating in the system partition, you also have to keep track of what you've moved in and do it again if you flash an updated ROM (without wiping).

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/system/app is where they'd go. You don't necessarily need to flash them there, you can use Titanium or a root-capable file explorer to move them. Some apps need some extra steps to work with their native libraries though. In addition the problem I mentioned of updates going back to /data/app instead of updating in the system partition, you also have to keep track of what you've moved in and do it again if you flash an updated ROM (without wiping).
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You are correct. Good points.

I don't have an SD EXT but I'll look into that. The link I posted helped alot. Thanks for all your help guys.

hi guys .. i don't know if this is a dumb question .. i am not expert at flashing custom roms .. in my titatinum backup info .. my system rom got 200+mb free and now i want to flash a custom rom but its size is 300mb+ ?? should i still continue or is there anything else to solve this??

[Q] What pre-installed apps can I uninstall?

Hi,
I've just rooted my wife's Desire, and I'd like to uninstall some system apps using Titanium Backup to free up some internal space for app installation. What can I uninstall that I'm not using and won't affect the phone?
Things I don't use in the list that I'd like to uninstall if possible:
Stocks
CN Thai Keyboard
Flickr
Plurk
Friend Stream
News
News and Weather
Peep
Teeter
Twitter
Also, I tried uninstalling flickr/stocks/twitter/peep/plurk/news/teeter after backing them up, but it didn't free up any space on the phone at all...I'm still getting low memory warnings. What's up with that?
Thanks.

goister said:
Hi,
I've just rooted my wife's Desire, and I'd like to uninstall some system apps using Titanium Backup to free up some internal space for app installation. What can I uninstall that I'm not using and won't affect the phone?
Things I don't use in the list that I'd like to uninstall if possible:
Stocks
CN Thai Keyboard
Flickr
Plurk
Friend Stream
News
News and Weather
Peep
Teeter
Twitter
Also, I tried uninstalling flickr/stocks/twitter/peep/plurk/news/teeter after backing them up, but it didn't free up any space on the phone at all...I'm still getting low memory warnings. What's up with that?
Thanks.
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Uninstalling system apps will not increase the disk space available for you to install apps. This is because the phone has two major partitions, the data partition at 148mb, and the system partition at 250mb. User installed apps can only be installed on the data partition while system apps are installed on the system partition. So when you uninstall a system app, you are actually only freeing up space in the system partition instead of the data partition and you cannot use the system partition to install apps. Thus, you do not get any additional space and will still have the low memory warning.
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CM9 ALPHA 2 + link2sd available storage

Hi all,
I'm using CyanogenMod 9.0.0-RC0_marvel-ALPHA2 from modpunk with link2sd.
Just for info, how much available space do you have in your device, after a cash clean?
I have about 45 MB, But I saw my friend's WFS with stock sense ROM having much much more available space.
Thanks
Ale

Pretty low. I can't install anymore at 20mb, that's why i switched to s2e.
I use flipboard much (internal data clogger). In s2e, i have 145mb free.

Link2SD reports 32 MB free and 104 installed apps (many are system apps though). One trick I just learned is to link the dalvik cache (settings - more in l2s) which freed up quite alot of space.

I have 71 MB free with over 195 apps installed.. Use auto link, link dalvik cache too. Also I use Titanium Backup Pro to integrate all dalvik elements into ROM.

18mb without linking anything. I have moved everything I can to the SD except Maps and anything with a widget.
I am just about to setup my link2sd. I notice the Manage Apps figure can be wrong with this ROM intermittently.

Pretty much close to a solution
Guys, I have been using several ROMs of all types, like stock, odexed, deodexed, cm7 and cm9.... I have found one interesting thing that when install apps and widgets then we can move them to system storage using link2sd.... It helps a lot in reducing the cluttering of internal memory....
Just install the app, go to link2sd, select the app, go to actions and use convert to system app. If the app would be running at the moment it would crash, and would bug u again and again so just restart your WFS normally and voila, you would see the change on your own.... You can do it to most apps but not to all(wasn't able to figure out the accurate reason) such as ms video player could be moved to system but if its codecs are also moved then even after restart it gives an error that the codecs are not properly installed....
To uninstall such app that is moved to system you would require to convert it to user app, restart and uninstall.... Done
This helps a lot and luckily works on all ROMs may it be odexed or deodexed....
If you haven't partitioned your sd card but u r rooted, you can still use link2sd, just open the app normally but when it asks for the partition to be loaded simply press cancel.... Link2sd is a very useful app I respect it a lot cos its a free of cost

*se-nsei. said:
I have 71 MB free with over 195 apps installed.. Use auto link, link dalvik cache too. Also I use Titanium Backup Pro to integrate all dalvik elements into ROM.
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Thanks a lot!
I got same values linking dalvik cache and integrating all dalvik elements into ROM.
Just to know... are there any consequences integrating dalvik into ROM?
And finally: from link2sd memory satus view, I see system memory (/system) is only 6% free (total: 260 MB, used: 243 MB, free: 17,18MB).
Is it normal?
Ale

aleflocco said:
Thanks a lot!
I got same values linking dalvik cache and integrating all dalvik elements into ROM.
Just to know... are there any consequences integrating dalvik into ROM?
And finally: from link2sd memory satus view, I see system memory (/system) is only 6% free (total: 260 MB, used: 243 MB, free: 17,18MB).
Is it normal?
Ale
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It's somewhat safe, as I never had a nice experience over it..... I once had to reflash my ROM due to that.... Why don't you uninstall all the HTC crap like, stocks, teeter etc.... And extra widgets that you don't use, that'd get you some space on your system partition.... And you can try my method mentioned above.... Well obviously its nothing new I'm telling here but with personal experience, I'm loving it :-D
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aleflocco said:
Thanks a lot!
I got same values linking dalvik cache and integrating all dalvik elements into ROM.
Just to know... are there any consequences integrating dalvik into ROM?
And finally: from link2sd memory satus view, I see system memory (/system) is only 6% free (total: 260 MB, used: 243 MB, free: 17,18MB).
Is it normal?
Ale
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I've never had any problems after integrating tbh.

41MB free with link2sd, 95 apps installed (14 linked)

Modpunk's alpha2: 51 users apps with 108 MB free B)
Odexed modpunk's ROM using this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1500475
Should effectively be the same as Titanium's Integrate Dalvik into sys but I didn't have the pro version of Titanium backup so this worked well for me.

Try removing system apps.. it worked fine for me..

Stock latest 6.0.1 on my Nexus 7 2013, over 7GB taken up by System Data

Here's my situation... I've had the 32GB 2013 N7 nearly since it's launch. I've rooted it and unrooted it numerous times to update it to the latest OS versions. I've never done a full system restore all the time I've had it. Nor have I installed a custom ROM.
I noticed the other day that a whole 7GB is being consumed by "System data" in the DiskUsage app. This seems overly excessive, right?
I'm currently not rooted, so I can't look into what's taking up all the space, but I might root it if that might be the quickest solution. I'd also REALLY like to keep from doing a system restore, as I don't want to reconfigure everything, but if that's the only solution, then so be it.
So, any ideas? Thanks!
Here's a screenshot:
http://i.imgur.com/3QLS0pv.jpg

I don't know what that apps saying I'd delete it. You sure that's not your free space left as it says?
The system partition is only 1gig so it's not possible to be using 7. Look at Settings > Storage. Delete **** with Solid Explorer to free up space.
If you think it is your system you can flash the system.img and it won't wipe anything but also won't fix your problem.. not sure you have one.