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[Q] SGS South American Version will come whit DIGITAL TV reception

Tzi1983 said:
Guys, d u think there is gonna be a way to do it whit software changing, like flashing the SA firmware, or the phone needs a hardware part to receive the T signal ?
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i have never heard about that and i can't believe it either! so give me a source or i will call it bull****...

ok im south american, but haven't seen any ads about the galaxy s... still i got an european version

galaxy s with digital tv
In this video in the middle you see the digital tv
www youtube com watch?v=T3fBdO4_qXw

this would require a dvb-t or dvb-h tuner plus antenna, so i dont think flashing this firmware would help anything.

Samsung should have aplied that tuner to every phone, i will not watch TV at the cellphone, but is frustrating that i bought mine already.

it will have a SBTVD (also called ISDB-T) receiver, as is said here: http://blog.jaldomir.com.br/noticias/260-samsung-galaxy-s-finalmente-entre-nos
There is a multiformat decoder on the market, but its from Analog Devices. I doubt that Samsung uses this third party chipset but will use its own as they are specialized in ISDB-T. So i guess this handset will not decode DVB-H and will only be usable in South America and the Philippines.
I also guess they do this because TV usage is much higher in e.g. Brasil than anywhere in Europe. DVB-H was launched to much fanfare a couple of years ago but nobody uses it. Does any newly released handset have it any more? Some carriers offer streaming TV programs over their data network but there is just no demand for it.

Check Brazilian Gizmodo blog version.
It is true . Galaxy S at Brazil + digital tv .

Isn't this the most amazing phone series we've ever seen?
It's a pity that we don't have an equivalent model here in Europe - It would be awesome to watch TV everywhere (even if I had to pay extra 100Eur) - it would really be a ALL-IN-ONE device.

GXFX said:
Check Brazilian Gizmodo blog version.
It is true . Galaxy S at Brazil + digital tv .
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oh envy ... in envy you Brazilian neighbors!
as minhas saudações da Colômbia
wont buy another one though... i'm still keeping my i9000

[[ Cold ]] said:
oh envy ... in envy you Brazilian neighbors!
as minhas saudações da Colômbia
wont buy another one though... i'm still keeping my i9000
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Gizmodo BR Galaxy S
haha.
I already have my International Version of i9000 and i won´t buy another one too.
Why ?
Because unlocked , it cost about US$1200,00 here . It´s REALLY expensive hehe.
I bought mine for US$599,00
as minhas saudações do Brasil .

I dont know exacty why but there are not alot phones with dvbt. I think it has something to do with taxes. Its a bitty.
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m.tvcatchup.com works fine for me if I were to ever use my phone as a TV.

ShezUK said:
m.tvcatchup.com works fine for me if I were to ever use my phone as a TV.
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...but it doesn't for anyone connecting from outside the UK. Damn geoipblocking again. So pre-Columbus. The Earth is no longer assumed to be flat, nor are countries walled fortresses (well, Israel, North Korea...), nor are proxies just for pixies...

I bought mine at Amazon for U$ 588,00 and won´t buy another version here in Brazil either.
Is there something special with brazilian firmware, such as Brazilian language instead of Portugal language ? I´m using English, because Portugal language has some bad translation.
Which is the latest firmware for the I9000XXJF3 version ?

Why samsung did not add tv tuner to all I9000 models ? would be awesome to watch tv with phone while being on train etc

Puta madre!

Yoz
Correct me if i'm wrong, but isn't it up to the cell providers to choose which features will be on the device? Like Sprint maybe paying extra for the epic features and such, and ?

Is it a matter of just adding an antenna and changing the firmware or need any additional hardware ?

lame....
why do we get the lamest version of the phone....

Samsung Galaxy Beam

Hey guys,
Anyone have this device? Can a subforum be opened?
It's excellent - I just got it and there's a lot of work to do
I added info at the XDA Wiki...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=Samsung_Beam
--summoner

Can you provide pictures?
I really don't believe this device is out.

khsbenny said:
Can you provide pictures?
I really don't believe this device is out.
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it has been out for a loooong time, there is another device similar to the Beam was on July, the other one was on March
both are for Europe market
they don't seem to be very popular
they are from the 8000 family, although the spec are very close to the Galaxy S 9000 family

AllGamer said:
it has been out for a loooong time, there is another device similar to the Beam was on July, the other one was on March
both are for Europe market
they don't seem to be very popular
they are from the 8000 family, although the spec are very close to the Galaxy S 9000 family
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Few weeks back I came across a review of this phone on youtube. Even though it was announced early this year (and GSM arena says its already available), I didn't find any information indicating that this phone is actually available on the market. I was looking for it's price.
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It's excellent - I just got it and there's a lot of work to do
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HOw much did you pay for it and from where did you get it ?

PhoenixFx said:
Few weeks back I came across a review of this phone on youtube. Even though it was announced early this year (and GSM arena says its already available), I didn't find any information indicating that this phone is actually available on the market. I was looking for it's price.
HOw much did you pay for it and from where did you get it ?
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http://www.handtec.co.uk/product.php/2758/samsung-beam-i8520--sim-free-unlocked-
488 on this site
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I got it in Singapore last week... 800
sgd.
I want to reduce lack but don't know where to start..
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good idea
Just bought mine a week ago from StarHub (the official retailer for galaxy beam).
I second the subforum idea. How about starting a google group as well since the community is so small.
For those who wish to purchase the phone:
You need to place a reservation at StarHub Center before making the purchase. It takes about a week before your phone is ready for collection.
I was lucky enough to get it immediately because someone cancelled his reservation.

waiting for mine, deseperatly ....

i'll check with Admins and Sr Mods to see if they want to create a new forum for it

That's great! Thanks man.
nocomp: you may try bugging their hq at cuppage road. They might just have an extra handset lying around like mine. Haha

i ve bought it from a local shop in singapore, they were agree to send it to me to france.
still waiting for the delivery...... the singapore post tracking service, isn t much alive since 2 days......
i guess that ll be a change from my nexus, what i am pissed of, is that you can t use an app that use camera and projector in the same time
it seems that what has to be done, (part of find a way to upgrade it to froyo):
get gps working when projector is on
get projector working when camera is on
can you tell me if the galaxy beam has also the tv out like galaxy s?
best regards
herve

I have some bad news for you. Samsung has officially stopped software support for that device last month and said there's no plans for official froyo for it as there's just not enough beams out there to warrent the support as it was only sold in Singapore and very small numbers. They now have all development on tablet and galaxy s models. Google for more info. I read that last month someplace
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hi
thxx a lot, that news has been goin on here and there fr a while, surely some ppl can adapt 2.2 to the beam model.
i finally received mine )))
bad news, impossible to install an application from android market :'(
never happend before with the nexus, i get the message "unable to download" either i am in wifi or 3g
any idea why?
herve

Hmm never had a problem with market. Have you tried replacing the stock market app with a generic one from ipmart? Perhaps it's locked down to Singapore or something.

Topic moved to General until and if a new proper forum comes into place for this device.

hi,
well i ve took sim card off n sdcard off, and then it was working over wifi.
put the simcard back again and market was working.
no idea wtf happend.

hi,
how can i know what software update is current?
my version is 2.1 update 1
I8520DXJ11
kernel 2.6.29-zeus1
can t find in the setting menu the update section
thx for your help
btw i ve found this, anybody tried it?
http://shomblingteam.blogspot.com/2010/08/samsung-i8520-galaxy-beam.html

My phone is running the same firmware version as yours. It's released on 1 Sept which is more recent than the July version on that blog.

hi,
thx for the news, so if there is an update it ll appear in the "about" section right?
do you know any trick/tweak for allow to run gps when using projector?
herve

Probably, but I doubt there will be any more updates since the beam is not getting froyo. Hopefully I'm wrong...
I'm not aware of any tricks but if you have the time and expertise try editing the source code? Haha I'm no expert either.

Xperia s in india

Is xperia s going to be available in india?
Because on the sony mobile website xperia p and xperia u are displayed as coming soon
And there is no xperia s!!
Please someone let me know
I am planning to buy this phone!

sagr_ved said:
Is xperia s going to be available in india?
Because on the sony mobile website xperia p and xperia u are displayed as coming soon
And there is no xperia s!!
Please someone let me know
I am planning to buy this phone!
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Same here but I feel Sony Xperia ION will reach first, than Sony Xperia S.

pathaniya said:
Same here but I feel Sony Xperia ION will reach first, than Sony Xperia S.
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How come? Ion is a US exclusive and it isn't released yet

i do believe we will get xperia S soon(before march 2nd or 3rd week)............when on sony website in the home page it states xperia S to be coming soon and in product page xperia S is missing............this might be some webpage related issue
update:i spoke to sony mobile india,they said it will be available soon and before the end of Q1.... probably by the end of march 2nd week and they also mentioned xperia s product page for india will also be added soon and it will be available under phones section

kannanX10 said:
i do believe we will get xperia S soon(before march 2nd or 3rd week)............when on sony website in the home page it states xperia S to be coming soon and in product page xperia S is missing............this might be some webpage related issue
update:i spoke to sony mobile india,they said it will be available soon and before the end of Q1.... probably by the end of march 2nd week and they also mentioned xperia s product page for india will also be added soon and it will be available under phones section
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that's a great news. Any idea if we'll be getting the smart headset with the phone for free?? or atleast a release date for the headset? I really want to have those headphones.

yohandesilva1 said:
How come? Ion is a US exclusive and it isn't released yet
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Nothing serious just my imagination, but thanks for the info.

its releasing in first week of march almost globally then why this delay for india??
and also there is no contract system here in india then also delay!!
i want this phone like hell!!
i already sold my sgs2 to buy this beauty!!

Delay in india
Hi,
I'm from pune and i spoke to the official from SONY in pune and he said it will be a bit delay to arrive in INDIA . He said will be coming in APRIL 1st week. As like you i'm very eager to buy this phone hope it comes early and we have this masterpiece right in our hands........

can anone confirm the above news from my friend??
just to confirm!!
i dont have any sony store in my locality otherwise i would have done that!!
just as i am too eager so....
and what will be the price?

Delay in launch
Hi,
@sagar_ved The price of this awesome piece in india is approx. Rs.31000 not yet confirmed maybe less also.
Also to mention when i spoke to the SONY representative, he told me that they are trying to make sure we get all the accessories especially the HDMI cable which is missing in most of the unboxing videos. As like all i'm also concerned about the battery he assured that SONY is coming up with some new apps that will boost battery life i think its just a marketing skill maybe. So keep ur fingers crossed
Right now i'm just watching the videos of Xperia S on youtube the greek review on youtube is great if have time then watch it how the xperia s is blazing fast....CHEERS

can u please post the link for the youtube video!!

link to video
sagr_ved said:
can u please post the link for the youtube video!!
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Hi,
This is the link
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ArmBxMwsma8
There are 3 parts u can find the 2nd and 3rd on the right hand side "Suggested videos"
Enjoy................

Guys i talked to asony executive and shesaid it would be out by end of march!!
She said q1 is the date given to them!!
When i asked about the pricing she said no pricing has been revealed yet!!
Guys i think the phone would come by mid april asin india we have to fill all it returns
N also the distributors have to change thiernames from sonyericsson to sony!!
This is making me so sad!!
I want thisfone!!!!!!

Any news guys about the launch??

There is one listing in Ebay but it's too costly since they are exporting from US. It's about 39K http://www.ebay.in/itm/Sony-XPERIA-...27386?pt=IN_Mobile_Phones&hash=item1c246d4dba. If they delays to launch I might change my mind and go for One X since it's world wide release on April 5th prices would somewhat the same.

ShyamSasi said:
There is one listing in Ebay but it's too costly since they are exporting from US. It's about 39K http://www.ebay.in/itm/Sony-XPERIA-...27386?pt=IN_Mobile_Phones&hash=item1c246d4dba. If they delays to launch I might change my mind and go for One X since it's world wide release on April 5th prices would somewhat the same.
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I think that the One X is going to be more expensive, maybe One S will be more in the range or a little lower than Xperia S.

Almost 40k its too expensive!!
Lets hope we get our good news soon!!

Good news Good news Good news!!
Guess what i got the exact release date!!
Its 15th of this month!!
There is a sony ericsson sales store near my place and the owner of it is a very good friend of mine!
And today he told me its going to come on15th march and pricing is 32000rs
But he said that its gonna come by the name nozomi
I was a bit shocked hearing this!!
Anyways guys we have a reason to celebrate for!!
Enjoy your phones on15th!!!

Alien987 said:
I think that the One X is going to be more expensive, maybe One S will be more in the range or a little lower than Xperia S.
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Not very expensive it's like 80$ difference

sagr_ved said:
Good news Good news Good news!!
Guess what i got the exact release date!!
Its 15th of this month!!
There is a sony ericsson sales store near my place and the owner of it is a very good friend of mine!
And today he told me its going to come on15th march and pricing is 32000rs
But he said that its gonna come by the name nozomi
I was a bit shocked hearing this!!
Anyways guys we have a reason to celebrate for!!
Enjoy your phones on15th!!!
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nozomi is the code name for xperia s

Getting it in the UK

Hi all,
From all that I have seen it doesn't look like the ZL will be officially available in the UK. As such the options for buying a C6503 model are:
Import from Europe
It's quite expensive at the moment, and the retailer which should have no problems shipping abroad (Amazon) had the highest price of them all last time I checked. I can definitely see this working fine, with the German version having en_GB locale support and playing nicely with the operators.
Import from Asia (ie HK)
From Expansys (http://www.expansys.com.hk/sony-xperia-zl-lte-c6503-unlocked-16gb-black-247249) the total works out cheaper by about £60, with the shipping not being much slower. The other positives are that in HK they use the same power plugs as in the UK (no need to mess with power adaptors), and en_GB would definitely come preloaded as a locale. The only worry is that the manufacturer model quoted is 'AP_C6503_BLK', where the 'AP' stands for the Asia-Pacific version. I'm wondering whether this could have any implications on the hardware and software. I suppose as software goes it should always be possible to reflash it to a German firmware, but I can't help but think that something could be different.
Also found this: http://www.simplyelectronics.net/mainproduct.php?pid=21943
Despite coming up on Google Shopping with good reviews, I found other review websites which seemed to suggest the opposite. They also claimed to have had it in stock two or three weeks ago (I've been following this page for a while), when it wasn't even released in Europe. Both of these make me think that this website is a bit dodgy, and make me wonder where the device originally comes from (HK, Germany, Russia?).
I'm seriously inclining towards the second option, but I'm wondering whether anyone around here has previous experience or some information that might be able to help make the best choice.
Thanks.

Amazon Germany and Amazon Italy now have it for circa €560.

Nooo!! do not buy from simply electronics! I had an awful experience and a quick Google will give you the same feedback.
I am in the UK. Love the phone.
I bought mine from eBay from a seller in HK. Took 2 days to arrive via FedEx $599
Seller: jetcodigital
Expect to pay import tax although they did send as a gift with value of $100 so you might be lucky.
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trickyhenry said:
Nooo!! do not buy from simply electronics! I had an awful experience and a quick Google will give you the same feedback.
I am in the UK. Love the phone.
I bought mine from eBay from a seller in HK. Took 2 days to arrive via FedEx $599
Seller: jetcodigital
Expect to pay import tax although they did send as a gift with value of $100 so you might be lucky.
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Yeah, that's kind of what I figured about Simply Electronics.
So presumably the device you have is an Asia-Pacific version. Did you notice any differences or oddities when it came to the software/hardware?
Thanks for the feedback, I haven't actually checked eBay yet but will give it a quick look.

Hi I haven't noticed anything strange yet. Seems like the right version for me. No odd software or anything. I'm using it on three UK. Everything has worked great right out of the box. Very pleased.
Now I can sell my htc ONE. ( ZL camera is better )
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trickyhenry said:
Hi I haven't noticed anything strange yet. Seems like the right version for me. No odd software or anything. I'm using it on three UK. Everything has worked great right out of the box. Very pleased.
Now I can sell my htc ONE. ( ZL camera is better )
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Another 3 uk user here, got my 6503 for ~£500 after shipping and tax from the states seller: never-msrp.
Even works on 3's secret LTE
Only issue is the US AC adapter.

I am gonna buy a white 6503 version from the German site; Cyberport.de
They can send it to several countries and the prices for that aren't that high.
The phone itself will cost you €550,00 and the shipping to the Netherlands (where I live) are only €13,00.
They've got the black version in stock, and the white version (that I want) is gonna be there in several days.
If you want to check out other stores in Germany:
Geizhals.de: black Sony Xperia ZL
Geizhals.de: white Sony Xperia ZL
Geizhals.de: red Sony Xperia ZL

Well, I ended up buying it from Amazon.de, which worked out to pretty much £500 after shipping and currency conversion. While Expansys.com.hk would have been cheaper, I felt that the European warranty was worth the additional price.
The funny thing is that I ordered yesterday and I should get it tomorrow. Ordering a device which isn't available in the UK, from Amazon.de, and guess what? The device was in the Milton Keynes distribution centre! Seems almost ridiculous, really.

Let us know how you get on.
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CLB-NL said:
I am gonna buy a white 6503 version from the German site; Cyberport.de
They can send it to several countries and the prices for that aren't that high.
The phone itself will cost you €550,00 and the shipping to the Netherlands (where I live) are only €13,00.
They've got the black version in stock, and the white version (that I want) is gonna be there in several days.
If you want to check out other stores in Germany:
Geizhals.de: black Sony Xperia ZL
Geizhals.de: white Sony Xperia ZL
Geizhals.de: red Sony Xperia ZL
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I would like a white one but love the black one anyway now I have it. I couldn't wait like you...
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trickyhenry said:
I would like a white one but love the black one anyway now I have it. I couldn't wait like you...
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Yeah it will be white for me, only little thing is that the notification led is better to see on the black one I think...
But I don't like the shiny sides of the black one, and when I first saw the white version I fell in love, so that's why.
And I think the notificationbar and bar with the buttons will look better on the white, on the black ZL it looks so greyish.

I got mine today, and man... it sure looks good and feels nice. It feels a bit heavy, compared to my S3, but I'll get used to that. The screen also looks good when looking at it directly, but gets worse as soon as the viewing angle increases. Although I suppose this is a good thing, as other people trying to look at my device shouldn't see as much as on my S3! The bezel on the side looks a bit bigger than on the pictures, but it's not a big deal. Overall when looking at video or pictures fullscreen it looks stunning, since there is so little bezel.
Now, since I'm a power user, I'm wondering whether I want to unlock the bootloader or just root. I actually don't mind Sony's customisations that much (barring Chrome instead of the stock browser, and the standard Gallery app), however if CM becomes stable enough I might put it on. Perhaps just the root for locked bootloaders will be good enough for now.

Nice to know some others in the uk have one. It's an exclusive club!)
Great phone so far for me. No regrets and no disappointment. I feel the same about the viewing angles. I'm stock all the way for once so will enjoy the factory experience.
I'm trialing the battery saving features at the moment. So far today I have had some good results. I'm not one for these features normally but I thought a the phone has had them I would give it a go.
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Availabilities of the Mate 20 X (regions)

Hello everyone,
it's been 3 years ago since I've been rooting my Huawei P8Max and still have it and working fine. Although the stabilisator of my camer is out of place so it's making buzz sounds when using the camera and making bad photos. But also outdated too?
Anyway, I'm looking for a new phone and now it's between the Mate 20 and the Mate 20X. However... it's the same story again with the P8Max: not available for purchase here in the Netherlands.... What a [email protected]#*& joke! If I buy one from Chinese webstore, I may end up having Chinese apps with Chinese characters in lock screen and chinese characters in 'Configs - apps' which I cannot remove it despite I rooted it.
So what is the best place to buy the Mate 20X? German Mediamarks doesn't send to the Netherlands? Amazon? Or other places?
And what about the root possibilities? Has it changed much? Possible to root either the Mate 20 or Mate 20X? What can I do if rooted?

CTR640 said:
So what is the best place to buy the Mate 20X? German Mediamarks doesn't send to the Netherlands?
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You can buy in Mediamarkt.de and use a package forwarding service like Mailboxde.com

Governa said:
You can buy in Mediamarkt.de and use a package forwarding service like Mailboxde.com
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Can you explain more on how? I live a bit too far from the Germany borders so if I have to go over there, I can't. I don't own a car too.

CTR640 said:
Can you explain more on how? I live a bit too far from the Germany borders so if I have to go over there, I can't. I don't own a car too.
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Register on Mailboxde.com , they will provide you with their German address and a code. Order online from Mediamarkt.de and use the address Mailboxde provided, and in the name field put the code. Once they receive the package, it will be reshipped to your Dutch address for a fee. 15-20 Euros if I recall, depending on size and weight.
Read their website, it explains all in detail.

I believe you can buy it off clove and they are also including the m-pen and flip case cover. There are normally quite a few available from either Norway or Switzerland on eBay that have international shipping.

Why is that device so little spread with stores ? I bought it in the end at Saturn here in Germany, and I know its available at Mediamarkt. But then thats almost the same store these days.
But other than that, its hardly anywhere available in stores, local or online. How come ?
Is it that new ? I dont know when it was released here in germany. But since the above big local stores have it, why not more ? And especially online stores. Is that phone going to be one of those hardly introduced ones ?

wpkwolfseye said:
Why is that device so little spread with stores ? I bought it in the end at Saturn here in Germany, and I know its available at Mediamarkt. But then thats almost the same store these days.
But other than that, its hardly anywhere available in stores, local or online. How come ?
Is it that new ? I dont know when it was released here in germany. But since the above big local stores have it, why not more ? And especially online stores. Is that phone going to be one of those hardly introduced ones ?
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Exactly my thoughts. I thought Huawei has learned from the Huawei P8Max which was way to hard to get it and yet it happens with the 20X too!
I bought mine on Chinese webstore and I won't make the mistake again as I know there are European, Global and Chinese version. I didn't knew that back in 2015.
Mine was Chinese and it contained a lot of chinese bloat and apps I don't understand. German Mediamarkt sells the Mate 20X but Dutch Mediamarks doesn't?? Wtf?? Now I either got the choices to get it from European eBay sellers or Amazon.co.uk. I am only worried about the warranty between the countries and some has reported they got problems with the OLED screen after 4 days of use. And another thing is, I thought the Mate 20X has theTwilight version too but nope, only in silver and blue and I've seen the Mate20 Twilight in real store and I like it. So after a week of searching lots of informations and all, I'm thinking to go for the Mate20 here in the Netherlands to save myself from lots of troubles and headache. Shipping also takes long too :/
After gathering the info, this is what I've been told:
AL-00 is Chinese version
L29 is Europer version or non-Chinese

I never understood why there is always these differences with smartphones. Its like here in germany, when there is a new Smartphone introduced, its usually that we dont get all the colors (why the hell not???) or we only get the 256 GB version or only the 128 GB version or this or that, the other versions are always available in other countries only. I dont get it. Nowadays its slowly getting a bit more in regards to colors, that its not usually only the black, white & silver (or grey) version of phones that you can get here. But still, with a lot of phones its still the usual "This Version is not available here!" or so.
People are tired of only the basic colors by now. From different-size memory on the phone models i dont even wanna start, you only always get one model or maybe two, while there are in fact 3 or 4. Who decides what amount of memory people here "would want" to have, or which color we can get and why.
I am glad i found the Mate 20 X in Saturn & Mediamarkt in town, so I had it easy in this case. I could simply go there and buy it, but honestly i would have preferred ordering online with Amazon.

I think I made my choice: I'll go for the Mate 20 Twilight in my country to save myself lots of troubles and headache and eventually shipping when something is broken or some problems on the OLED screen of the Mate 20X. Just the colors black, blue and silver are simply boring, all my family have the basic black or grey colors of their iPhone, Samsung and Huawei. It would have been an insta-buy if Huawei sells the mate 20X Twilight in Netherlands too but nope, their logic is flawed, big time. #@&* it.
Is the Mate 20 root-able? And what can I do with it once it's rooted? Or should I keep it stock? I do know for sure it will have no more the chinese apps and characters like my P8Max have when I bought it from gizok. My cousin has the P10 from our country and he has no gibberish apps and I also have seen the Mate 20 in real life in a store, so beautiful phone And 3.5mm audiojack too!!!

In addition to the very little availability of the Mate 20 X (whyever), there are also hardly any good cases for it. Already asked UAG (Urban Armor Gear) which I used a lot over the years for many phones, but even they dont have any immediate plans to make a case for that phone. I suppose Huawei f**** that up, with releasing the phone so little compared to the other Mate 20 models. I dont get these companies, I really dont.

Yes, I experienced that about hardly good cases indeed! I was searching for good cases and the ones I found or suits my needs or I like, are not available for Mate 20X.
One more reason to go for the Mate 20 non-X. It's really a shame :/

True, but that doesnt make me scare away from the phone. There are several reasons, for me, why i wouldnt go for the other Mate 20 versions. For me, that large display is simply awesome. In addition, something i really hate on all the phones that have come to use these "supposedly" fancy edge displays. Samsung started this, and since the S6 Edge I learned one thing, rounded displays are prown to being broken very quickly. And repair costs of those is always much higer than with non-edge displays. The other Mate 20s have, as far as I know, all a rounded display, and already for that they are not interesting for me. Also, and i know that seems to be something one sooner or later has to get used to (but as long as I dont have to, why should I), i hate Headphone adapters. And the longer I can avoid using them, i will.
But the size of this phone is what really attracts me. Guess I can only hope some better cases come out in time.

wpkwolfseye said:
The other Mate 20s have, as far as I know, all a rounded display
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No, only the Mate 20 Pro.

Even so, but the other Mate 20s dont have that appeal to me.

Ye, I really would love a huge display and that's why I've been searching to death. I don't care about what everyone says about the size. The OLED display is also really nice too.
Filtering the search results on eBay shows some sellers from UK and EU which is pretty nice. They shouldn't be Chinese versions?
These are search results:
https://www.ebay.nl/sch/GSMs/9355/i...te%2020%20X&_nkw=mate+20+x&rt=nc&LH_PrefLoc=3
And a phone without a 3.5mm audiojack means: a very big no-no, end of story. Adapters are prone to be broken very soon or to get lost.