Questions, about root. - Xperia Arc Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I've been playing with the thought root or not root, but i'll need to know this few things before taking the final decision.
If i root 2.3.3, will i then still be able to get 2.3.4 and or 4.0 when it comes out, if se will support 4.0.
what does the 4.0.a features have that the 3.0.1.a doesn't have? and what is the difference.
And how easy 10/10 is it to update a rooted phone.
Thats all, i wanna know.

Search is your friend, but anyways...
Unless you have an unlocked/unlockable bootloader, you cannot root v2.3.3 directly.
Rooting doesn't affect updates as long as you don't remove any system files/apps.
e.g. Updating a rooted Rogers phone:
New features: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1199597
There's practically no risk since you can always restore the phone to stock using the FlashTool or PC Companion.

Okay, danke. Youve got your thanks up.

BluechipJ said:
Search is your friend, but anyways
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+1 These questions have been asked so many times.
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But what about, if i just want to uninstall bloatware can i then just like unlock the bootloader?

Marzvinet said:
But what about, if i just want to uninstall bloatware
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Root and remove it, no need to unlock the BL - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1133650

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Is there a way to root arc 2.3.3 !!!!!

Is it possible to root SE arc 2.3.3 ???
Stupid!!!!!!!!!
Its not the same ! or ?
dream_fun said:
is gingerbreak for arc 2.3.3 available for root ???
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no until now you can only root your phone when bootloader is unlocked
edit: can you change the thread title? now it looks like gingerbreak can root 2.3.3 and it can't
dream_fun said:
is gingerbreak for arc 2.3.3 available for root ???
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I'm not trying to be rude, but why don't you do some search and reading before posting such question? And your title is even more confusing with your original intension. Change it please.
wow I came here thinking some new development happened secretly hidden within the General Thread...lol
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wow I came here thinking some new development happened secretly hidden within the General Thread...lol
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me to
I thought that a new of gingerbreak is out
no, there is no gingerbreak available to root 2.3.3 yet..
here's a reply from chainfire on his blog responding to people who ask if 2.3.3 can be rooted:
Posted by Chainfire on 01-06-2011 at 13:36:23
As stated many times before, GingerBreak only works on VERY specific Android builds. If it doesn't, there is little I can do about it - the exploit has been fixed in your Android version.
Yeah, i think the fix to the exploit got put in the android repository with 2.3.4, but some 2.3.3 firmwares released after 2.3.4 (e.g. the arc's) have included security fixes from 2.3.4 (e.g. in the list of fixes in the 2.3.3 update sony said theyve included the fix for the bug which potentially leaked userdata to apps).
If this is the case and the exploit which gingerbreak utilised is now patched in the arc, it's likely we arent *ever* going to see a gingerbreak which will root 2.3.3
Think i might finally have to unlock my bootloader...
daveybaby said:
Yeah, i think the fix to the exploit got put in the android repository with 2.3.4, but some 2.3.3 firmwares released after 2.3.4 (e.g. the arc's) have included security fixes from 2.3.4 (e.g. in the list of fixes in the 2.3.3 update sony said theyve included the fix for the bug which potentially leaked userdata to apps).
If this is the case and the exploit which gingerbreak utilised is now patched in the arc, it's likely we arent *ever* going to see a gingerbreak which will root 2.3.3
Think i might finally have to unlock my bootloader...
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we dont know that yet, im sure the devs will find a way to root without unlocking your bootloader, just be patient
jatt101 said:
we dont know that yet, im sure the devs will find a way to root without unlocking your bootloader, just be patient
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Oh, i dont doubt we'll see one eventually... it just that it'll be via a new exploit, not just via a minor tweak to gingerbreak. The point is that it may be a while, and i dont think i can be bothered to wait that long, because i just realised something:
If the only reason i'm holding off unlocking the bootloader is that SEUS wont work any more, yet i'm refusing to use SEUS to update anyway because there isnt a working root for the latest update, then i think i might be an idiot.
i'm also thinking about unlocking, dont care about updating with seus. about warranty?
daveybaby said:
If the only reason i'm holding off unlocking the bootloader is that SEUS wont work any more, yet i'm refusing to use SEUS to update anyway because there isnt a working root for the latest update, then i think i might be an idiot.
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LOL +1 ...i'm having a 'lightbulb' moment here
kistigun said:
i'm also thinking about unlocking, dont care about updating with seus. about warranty?
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I dunno... if the thing fails physically, e.g. screen goes wrong due to manufacturing fault, buttons fall out or something, then i suspect you might get it fixed under warranty regardless (but SE might be hard nosed bastards about it, who knows). It's a risk...
The way i see it, the thing most likely to happen is i balls it up flashing a custom rom or something, which is my own stupid fault anyway (hope we get a working nandroid/recovery at some point though)
daveybaby said:
If the only reason i'm holding off unlocking the bootloader is that SEUS wont work any more, yet i'm refusing to use SEUS to update anyway because there isnt a working root for the latest update, then i think i might be an idiot.
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I like your point
But other than rooting there isn't potential benefit from unlocking the bootloader at the moment (Or is there anything and I missed it ). That could be stopping many from unlocking, which is in my case
kistigun said:
no until now you can only root your phone when bootloader is unlocked
So if I unlock the bootloader, which gingerbread version I can use for rooting
can you change the thread title? now it looks like gingerbreak can root 2.3.3 and it can't
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Just changed the subject ....
dream_fun said:
Just changed the subject ....
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for root witk unlocked bootloader follow this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1042978
daveybaby said:
Oh, i dont doubt we'll see one eventually... it just that it'll be via a new exploit, not just via a minor tweak to gingerbreak. The point is that it may be a while, and i dont think i can be bothered to wait that long, because i just realised something:
If the only reason i'm holding off unlocking the bootloader is that SEUS wont work any more, yet i'm refusing to use SEUS to update anyway because there isnt a working root for the latest update, then i think i might be an idiot.
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At least you have the option of unlocking your bootloader.
prathaban said:
I like your point
But other than rooting there isn't potential benefit from unlocking the bootloader at the moment (Or is there anything and I missed it ). That could be stopping many from unlocking, which is in my case
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the only good reason to root the arc is to remove all the bloatware that can speed up the arc exponentially, then the customization thing, that's a big plus for me and eventually the custom roms.
I haven't had the time to root my phone yet, but if I use gingerbreak to root Arc and remove all the bloatware, then update to 2.3.3, will the bloatware return or ?
Cause I don't really care about root until we can mod JIT, just want to remove bloatware.

[Q] Verizon Xperia Play Failed to OTA! Please Help!!??

I have the Verizon Xperia Play r800x, the bootloader is unlockoed, the phone is rooted and i removed some system apps.
- i did relock bootloader
- i temp removed root
- the apps i removed were, Sims, Tetris, Visual Voice Mail, Skype Mobile
It lets me download the OTA update, after its finished, it reboots my phone and shows that its downloading. but when it turns on its still at 2.3.2 and a blue box pops up saying Update Failed! So im just wondering how can i fix this problem and update??
Any help is appreciated, thank u
Can't OTA if any pre-installed apps are deleted. That includes games.
The only way is gonna be flashing stock and starting over.
Sent from the best phone ever
Thing is, I've seen a fair few posts with this problem now.
I have this problem, but I removed nothing. I froze, then unfroze.
Thinking it could be a bigger problem than people think?
same deal i got failed update don't know what im doing wrong i have bloatware and same, never messed with it but i do have unlocked bootloader can that be the problem?
biggyhead said:
same deal i got failed update don't know what im doing wrong i have bloatware and same, never messed with it but i do have unlocked bootloader can that be the problem?
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If your bootloader is unlocked or any bloatware is moved/removed, its not gonna work, no matter what.
Theres a thread in general and a thread in development on this already, take a look.
Rogue Leader said:
If your bootloader is unlocked or any bloatware is moved/removed, its not gonna work, no matter what.
Theres a thread in general and a thread in development on this already, take a look.
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Well, it also depends on which unlock method was used. Mine was unlocked by the testpoint method by Alejandrissimo and I was able to OTA update with no problem. But it is a well-known fact that the other methods will soft-brick if you try to update via OTA.
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Go to the update thread. On page 51 follow the instructions from Rogue Leader. Did mine last night and have update and root installed.
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[Q] sony noob. feel stupid...

ok guys i just picked up a play for att. sucks cause i have tmobile and wont get the 3/4g data. im almost always in wifi spots anyway so no big deal.
anyway i have already called att and got the phone sim unlocked. now if i think i understand this correctly this should be the order to follow. if you guys can confirm and provide latest links i would appreciate greatly.
1. sim unlock (done)
2. unlock bootloader (not yet)
3. root (not yet)
4. load rom (not yet)
correct??? did i miss anything? any preferred method on any of these? please advise.
thanks!!!
First of all, if you bought a xperia PLAY, you should probably post in the xperia PLAY forums.
Second of all, questions go in the Q & A forum.
To answer your question, that's pretty much the right order.
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DdcCabuslay said:
First of all, if you bought a xperia PLAY, you should probably post in the xperia PLAY forums.
Second of all, questions go in the Q & A forum.
To answer your question, that's pretty much the right order.
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i deserve the flaming. i did edit my post in hopes that a mod would see and put in the right forum for me.
kdm212 said:
ok guys i just picked up a play for att. sucks cause i have tmobile and wont get the 3/4g data. im almost always in wifi spots anyway so no big deal.
anyway i have already called att and got the phone sim unlocked. now if i think i understand this correctly this should be the order to follow. if you guys can confirm and provide latest links i would appreciate greatly.
1. sim unlock (done)
2. unlock bootloader (not yet)
3. root (not yet)
4. load rom (not yet)
correct??? did i miss anything? any preferred method on any of these? please advise.
thanks!!!
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yeh, thats right, but you need a recovery after root and before loading rom
TheHaso said:
yeh, thats right, but you need a recovery after root and before loading rom
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well somewhere along the line i bricked the phone.
i was able to install clockwork recovery. i then tried to install a rom. and it froze for well over 30 min. so now all i can get to is the se logo. cant boot into recovery on boot up at all. how do you check to see if you have an unlocked bootloader?
any chance of restarting over? loading the stock rom?
flash a generic global world img from here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1330314
next time take a backup.
Retrosid said:
flash a generic global world img from here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1330314
next time take a backup.
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i flashed an ftf world file and now i just have a black screen. no booting up.
If you have unlocked bootloader since I can't figure it out of your posts, flash another kernel
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Retrosid said:
If you have unlocked bootloader since I can't figure it out of your posts, flash another kernel
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thats where my problem is i believe. i dont think the bootloader was ever unlocked.
edit: tried rebooting the phone and the flashlight turns on lol but nothing else!
kdm212 said:
thats where my problem is i believe. i dont think the bootloader was ever unlocked.
edit: tried rebooting the phone and the flashlight turns on lol but nothing else!
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Have you tried to use SE PC companion to restore phone to factory state?
From support start update and click repair phone.
That could bring your phone back to life.
Muurahainen said:
Have you tried to use SE PC companion to restore phone to factory state?
From support start update and click repair phone.
That could bring your phone back to life.
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ill give that a shot. im willing to try anything now...
no software available...what about flashing an img file? do i need root or the bootloader unlocked for that? if i dont need those items how do i go about flashing the img?
kdm212 said:
ill give that a shot. im willing to try anything now...
no software available...what about flashing an img file? do i need root or the bootloader unlocked for that? if i dont need those items how do i go about flashing the img?
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That repair button didn't work?
For img flash you can use flashtool.
You don't need root or anything to use flashtool on your phone.
Just pick correct .ftf for your phone and flash it to the phone.
Do normal firmwares work on at&t's 4G version?
Maybe that's the problem
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finally!!! got it i was continuing to search everywhere for an answer and i stumbled upon another guy here on the site that had a similar issue. sooo i went to the site he found, xperiagamer.com and got the att firmware. flashed it and bingo im back!
thanks for all the help and suggestions men. this truly is a great site!
i do have some additional questions though. now that im back to square one im pondering trying again OR just rooting so i can remove the bloatware. if i just go the root method what the best way?
thanks!!!
kdm212 said:
finally!!! got it i was continuing to search everywhere for an answer and i stumbled upon another guy here on the site that had a similar issue. sooo i went to the site he found, xperiagamer.com and got the att firmware. flashed it and bingo im back!
thanks for all the help and suggestions men. this truly is a great site!
i do have some additional questions though. now that im back to square one im pondering trying again OR just rooting so i can remove the bloatware. if i just go the root method what the best way?
thanks!!!
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If you were rooted before you don't need to re-root unless you purposely unrooted it. IF you aren't rooted anymore superoneclick or the zergrush(however it's spelled) is the easiest. I'm 99% sure you don't have an unlocked bootloader though, so you have very few options. I'd say re-root if you need to and unlock your bootloader so you can flash flash and flash custom roms like crazy
kdm212 said:
well somewhere along the line i bricked the phone.
i was able to install clockwork recovery. i then tried to install a rom. and it froze for well over 30 min. so now all i can get to is the se logo. cant boot into recovery on boot up at all. how do you check to see if you have an unlocked bootloader?
any chance of restarting over? loading the stock rom?
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It got bricked because you didn't unlock your bootloader.
1.Root your phone
2.Install Recovery
3.Unlock Bootloader
4.FINALLY!! you install a rom okay?
I was a noob too so it's okay now I'm a higher class noob.try flashing your ftf again.
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MrHaPpY66 said:
It got bricked because you didn't unlock your bootloader.
1.Root your phone
2.Install Recovery
3.Unlock Bootloader
4.FINALLY!! you install a rom okay?
I was a noob too so it's okay now I'm a higher class noob.try flashing your ftf again.
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well i got the phone back up and running. its now rooted again. i was doing some research. if i understand correctly the att version cannot have the bootloader unlocked. can anyone confirm this?
You need to pay Setool credits in order to unlock the bootloader. Unlocking the bootloader allows you to lose the sin lock as well, so you could have killed two birds with the same stone.
Logseman said:
You need to pay Setool credits in order to unlock the bootloader. Unlocking the bootloader allows you to lose the sin lock as well, so you could have killed two birds with the same stone.
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ya i just found the website. seems like thats the one everyone is sent to on this site.
im wondering now that im rooted if i can clean this stock rom up enough to use on a daily basis. i mean im using tmobile on the device so sharing internet would only be edge lol. i guess the only thing i really want ics for is that fact that its ics.
open the dial pad and use this code*#*#7378423#*#* . Then go to -> "Service Info" -> "Configuration".
If it says unlock bootloader = no, then you have to use the paid service, if yes, then you can do it for free yourself.

why is rooting so hard

i've given up can't do this rooting thing.is there any reason why you can't just download a app to do the root
welshandy2322 said:
i've given up can't do this rooting thing.is there any reason why you can't just download a app to do the root
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You'd need an exploit in ICS 4.0.3 itself to do that and we don't currently have one.
Tiersten said:
You'd need an exploit in ICS 4.0.3 itself to do that and we don't currently have one.
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lol...please NO!! brainwash
you cant do root here easy way because HTC doesnt wont us to do so. ... thats all and simple as that. with another brands like samsung is the process short and easy. blaim HTC ...
android is open source... ICS 4.0.3 its not the problem at all!
If you really want root follow the tutorial at htcdev.com to unlock your bootloader and then follow one of the tutorials on how to install a custom rom (those are basically always rooted)... I'd wait for an S-OFF though.
Some pretty useful guides in Development section...
I found them fairly straight forward with no hi-cups along the way.
Always prefer a challenge over a click of a button
Well for me I would like to root, but I dont want to loose warranty. Altough I want to get rid of soe annoying apps HTC brought with the phone like flickr and 7digital.
You will get back your warrenty if you un-root your phone.
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AFX21 said:
Well for me I would like to root, but I dont want to loose warranty. Altough I want to get rid of soe annoying apps HTC brought with the phone like flickr and 7digital.
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You can disable them in the application list from Settings. That's what i've done.
Hunteres said:
lol...please NO!! brainwash
you cant do root here easy way because HTC doesnt wont us to do so. ... thats all and simple as that. with another brands like samsung is the process short and easy. blaim HTC ...
android is open source... ICS 4.0.3 its not the problem at all!
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Not sure what you're on but you can't root a Samsung phone from inside Android without using an exploit which is exactly the same as HTC and what the OP was asking for. You need to restart the Samsung and put it into the bootloader same as on a HTC.
Sikiduck said:
You will get back your warrenty if you un-root your phone.
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Not if you use HTCdev to unlock your bootloader, they keep a log of your device, regardless if you re-lock it.
They'll still replace your device if it's a hardware problem though.
Meltus said:
Not if you use HTCdev to unlock your bootloader, they keep a log of your device, regardless if you re-lock it.
They'll still replace your device if it's a hardware problem though.
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As long as you revert back to stock rom and flash stock recovery you should be fine. Don't see the need to relock as it'll just show unlocked what signs will we have that we've flashed a custom firmware? On SGS devices we had a count number but using a jig we could wipe this back to zero and return to complete stock.

xperia play 2.3.4 rooting?

im having trouble rooting my xperia play with the current firmware
but i found this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1321582
does that work on the 2.3.4 firmware on the R800i version?
if not can anyone please help me rooting my device?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1312859
zergRush don't work if you updated your phone after 11/2011
If you updated your phone, you need to flash (with flashtool) a previous version of stock GB in order to root your phone
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zergRush don't work if you updated your phone after 11/2011
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How do we know if our phone was updated after 11/2011? My phone is the same as the OP, R800i 2.3.4 but I don't remember when I updated to the 2.3.4 or would that be the bad update... lol
The version on About Phone (or run zergRush, if it doesn't work, the phone was updated)
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S34Qu4K3 said:
The version on About Phone (or run zergRush, if it doesn't work, the phone was updated)
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If I just want to remove or move to SD card some of system apps like the Bruce Lee game, do I need to root or unlock the bootloader or both? I'm not looking for Custom ROMs just free up some memory.
Found a super easy way.
batsman13 said:
im having trouble rooting my xperia play with the current firmware
but i found this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1321582
does that work on the 2.3.4 firmware on the R800i version?
if not can anyone please help me rooting my device?
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After a few frustrating days of searching I found this website http://www.unlockroot.com/index.htm which I just ran and it worked great! I am now a proud owner of a rooted SE XPlay. This program only took about 5 minutes to root my phone and give me superuser (still not sure what that is).
At any rate, you download the program, install it, follow the directions and then run it. It's that simple.
You can find some good info here on apps that you can remove. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1046699
mrtraveler said:
After a few frustrating days of searching I found this website http://www.unlockroot.com/index.htm which I just ran and it worked great! I am now a proud owner of a rooted SE XPlay. This program only took about 5 minutes to root my phone and give me superuser (still not sure what that is).
At any rate, you download the program, install it, follow the directions and then run it. It's that simple.
You can find some good info here on apps that you can remove. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1046699
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ok thanks, i may look into that
i just gave up with all the downgrading and rooting
i mainly wanted it to play games on it, but i have found almost all games i wanted for it now, exept for king of fighters, and the latest version of FPSE, both do require a rooted phone
but im happy with what i got already, still might look into rooting it for all the other perks though
batsman13 said:
ok thanks, i may look into that
i just gave up with all the downgrading and rooting
i mainly wanted it to play games on it, but i have found almost all games i wanted for it now, exept for king of fighters, and the latest version of FPSE, both do require a rooted phone
but im happy with what i got already, still might look into rooting it for all the other perks though
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Fpse does not require a rooted phone (unless Im reading what you mean wrong then disregard)
Easiest way to root your phone running ANY firmware is to unlock your bootloader and flash Superuser in CWM and your all set.
216Monster said:
Fpse does not require a rooted phone (unless Im reading what you mean wrong then disregard)
Easiest way to root your phone running ANY firmware is to unlock your bootloader and flash Superuser in CWM and your all set.
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Well I tried unlocking the bootloader and not sure why but wasn't able to. I used the program that I linked to above which was a simple as installing the program, running it, connecting my phone, clicking the ROOT button and within a few seconds my phone rebooted and was rooted with superuser installed. After that I installed Titanium Backup Pro and went to town.
TOO EASY! :good:
Heck I rooted 4 phones with that program within about 10 minutes.
batsman13 said:
im having trouble rooting my xperia play with the current firmware
but i found this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1321582
does that work on the 2.3.4 firmware on the R800i version?
if not can anyone please help me rooting my device?[/
first check your build no. if its .42 or .58 then you can root your phone using zergrush if you are on .62 you canNOT
by the way i soft bricked my phone some days back and performed seus update and still on .42
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