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I've been with CM7 from the start but don't know whether to stick with it now that leedroid has come up with his 3.0.X rom with Gingerbread.
I'd like your opinion of which would be better.
i.e. Pros and Cons.
Pros
:I like the look of stock GB, is there a theme for this on leedroid 3?
Fast, 1100 on average quad.
Very customize-able.e.g. performance, display, interface settings.
Cons:
low internal space, because of no A2SD++
idk anything alse.
So please convince me to go over to leedroid or stick with CM7
I'm on CM 7 and I like it.
There are some possibilities to get more space for apps. The easy one is to use GingerVillain as this ROM is based on CM 7 and has A2SD+ support. The other way is to s-off your phone and flash CM 7 hboot. The you will have over 300 MB for your apps on internal memory.
Regards,
vi.p
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I'm on CM 7 and I like it.
There are some possibilities to get more space for apps. The easy one is to use GingerVillain as this ROM is based on CM 7 and has A2SD+ support. The other way is to s-off your phone and flash CM 7 hboot. The you will have over 300 MB for your apps on internal memory.
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vi.p
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Where can i find CM7 Hboot!
Thx
CM7 has A2SD+. Look in Kali's thread for the rom. As for pros and cons, I've seen a lot of people with GV and they are having issues, a fair amount of issues. Currently, from my experience anyway, I've had no issues at all from CM7.
I have had CM7 for a while because I customer keep going back to it. I usually try a rom when it gets updated massively but I still end up going back to it.
Personally it is a stable rom, the most stable AOSP rom out there. I can't say anything about GV. I tried it once and I didn't like what they did to it bit this was last year.
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Where can i find CM7 Hboot!
Thx
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Wait never mind, found it. thx
Meaple said:
CM7 has A2SD+. Look in Kali's thread for the rom. As for pros and cons, I've seen a lot of people with GV and they are having issues, a fair amount of issues. Currently, from my experience anyway, I've had no issues at all from CM7.
I have had CM7 for a while because I customer keep going back to it. I usually try a rom when it gets updated massively but I still end up going back to it.
Personally it is a stable rom, the most stable AOSP rom out there. I can't say anything about GV. I tried it once and I didn't like what they did to it bit this was last year.
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I agree CM7 is an awesome and very stable ROM, but since using it for a while, i feel like it is a bit too stock, so imight try out leedroid, but hate the hassle of restoring apps and settings.
I used GV before switching to CM 7 and personally I had no issues with it.
@johno168: From the "look & feel" point of view its really stock, but if you get used to the cm extensions (like quiet hours, different lockscreens, ...) you won't want to live without it imho.
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I used GV before switching to CM 7 and personally I had no issues with it.
@johno168: From the "look & feel" point of view its really stock, but if you get used to the cm extensions (like quiet hours, different lockscreens, ...) you won't want to live without it imho.
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Yeah, thats why i love CM so much it's esaily customizable and so stable at the same time. Maybe i'll stick to CM, but do you know of any "sense themes" like the whole sense look and stuff but on CM? or Maybe even a gingerbread theme for leedroid/sense?
thx for the help!
I'm afraid you won't get the whole sense look with all widgets
Launcher Pro PLUS has some similar widgets for Friends, Facebook, Twitter, Contacts and even GMail. I use Pure Messenger too which can be skinned sense like.
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I'm afraid you won't get the whole sense look with all widgets
Launcher Pro PLUS has some similar widgets for Friends, Facebook, Twitter, Contacts and even GMail. I use Pure Messenger too which can be skinned sense like.
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Oh yes can you also tell me if Darktremor works on cm7, i find having really low internal is annoying
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Oh yes can you also tell me if Darktremor works on cm7, i find having really low internal is annoying
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i have sd-ext and S2E app from market......have 88 apps and stil 138MB free internal space
emmmmm I'm on CM7
try it
rawdealer said:
i have sd-ext and S2E app from market......have 88 apps and stil 138MB free internal space
emmmmm I'm on CM7
try it
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I have it Atm but it seems like its not working still only have 44mb after i moved it.
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I have it Atm but it seems like its not working still only have 44mb after i moved it.
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try with S2E...it's working for me
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try with S2E...it's working for me
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I meant with s2e
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In Kali-'s CM7 Thread there is a link for instructions how to setup "Legacy App2SD" Perhaps this will work. Haven't tried it...
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I meant with s2e
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aha ok, in cyanogenmod settings---application---check allow app moving and in install location check internal and then try it if you allready have so, I can't help anymore
I've searched for an answer or comparison on the internet, but I can't seem to find one.
The long-ish story
Yesterday I took my first leap into the ROM world by installing Cyanogen 7.03. It rocked and I loved it. However, as with the main problems of the Wildfire, the space got to me. I wanted the ability to move all my apps to the SD, as I was able to do using Ruymanca 7.1 and the a2sd cachesd u command. Now I'm on Ruymanca with a mere 30MB of internal space being used, and 70 apps in. However, I don't know anything about Ruymanca. I do know more about Cyanogen. Cyanogen is the name, in my opinion, for famous/well used ROMs. I never heard of Ruymanca, but I like the SD Card use.
Has Cyanogen 7.03 got the same ability to push all my apps and system, basically, to the SD using the above command? I know they are both very similar, but instead of moving to CM7 again and losing my SD ability, can I do it?
Finally, are CM's more common and frequent than Ruymanca ROMs? Which should I be on? I want SPEED and SPACE!
Tl;dr
CM7 vs Ruymanca for speed and A2SD (# a2sd cachesd u) - which one? Can they both do it?
In CM7 go to CM settings and Applications.
You can set it there.
I didn't do any of the ext (or w/e) **** and I can move anything to the sd card
Thank you for the reply!
But when I had CM7 installed and that box checked, the internal space dropped majorly. It was half eaten within a couple of apps. Why would this be?
Well, I've got no problem.
Try using Apps2sd app to move them and to see which occupy a lot of space.
That's great.
How many apps are you on? How much (internal) space are you on now?
I've got about 50 apps and 90 mb of free memory.
(if you put widgets on the sd card, you can't place them on the desktop tho)
99 applications, 175MB total space/131MB free. Good or bad?
(Four apps are on the phone: SetCPU, Memory Killer, a widget and one other)
Do you think I should return to Cyanogen then? Is there anything that Cyanogen has that others (Ruymanca) don't have? And, are the updates more frequent/stable?
As said, it's all about speed and space for me.
That's great.
cn any1 one tell me plz what is sence based roms??
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cn any1 one tell me plz what is sence based roms??
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Sense based roms = roms with htc sense = similar to stock roms.
And htc sense is a user interface with htc widgets. But it has fewer customization options than custom UIs.
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Can you overclock your phone in Ruymanca? install linpack and compare procesor speeds with each ROM
Try my rom
Fulfen said:
Can you overclock your phone in Ruymanca? install linpack and compare procesor speeds with each ROM
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They've got the same base, it would appear. All using Cyanongen base. Seems to be the same type to be honest, but Ruymanca has LauncherPro vs. ADW in CM7.
Major difference seems to be the heavily stripped rom and the A2SD.
I've put CM7 back on now, and tried S2E to give it a go, and benchmark/compare overclocking. It seems slightly slower, and I'm on 710, as 761 is apparently a bit hit and miss.
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Try my rom
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I've taken a look there. Nice!
However, I see it's on Froyo. Any reason why Froyo on yours is better than Gingerbread?
Give me the sales pitch!
Hi guys, new to the desire community.
Which Rom is better for daily use?
-supernova gb sense Rom
-leedroid hd 3.3.3
-leedroid v2.5
-leedroid v3.0.8.2
Thanks guys! Been thinking which is good.
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Which ROM do you like the most? Which one of them to you works the best? Ask yourself a few questions, and when a specific ROM always comes up first you'll find your answer.
Currently using leedroid hd v3.3.3. But the internal memory seems to go down fast with a2sd++.
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You're gonna get a million different answers because everyone has their own opinion. The only way to find out is to check them out yourself
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OK I have a more specific question: which ROM with Sense 2.1 or later and MORE space in internal memory than stock Gingerbread is better for daily use? (apart from Gingerburst with Data2SD because it seems my class 10 SD card doesn't like it ( )
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OK I have a more specific question: which ROM with Sense 2.1 or later and MORE space in internal memory than stock Gingerbread is better for daily use? (apart from Gingerburst with Data2SD because it seems my class 10 SD card doesn't like it ( )
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Yes! More internal Memory is needed for desire.
Have you tried any AOSP ROMs yet? (One's without Sense)
Tried those but I prefer ROMS with
sense.
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Did you try supernova?
TouchPal-d from my Desire running Starburst Classic Rom - 450 apps and counting. .
Droidzone said:
Did you try supernova?
TouchPal-d from my Desire running Starburst Classic Rom - 450 apps and counting. .
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Whts the diff between gingerburst and supernova?
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Makinen11 said:
OK I have a more specific question: which ROM with Sense 2.1 or later and MORE space in internal memory than stock Gingerbread is better for daily use?
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Thats the same question as the OP but adding an extra variable. See Timmaaa's response
I've found that pretty much any Sense GB ROM has glitches here and there, whether it be MMS not sending, camera flash timing, video playback stuttering etc etc etc.
About 4 days ago, I went back to Leedroid 2.5.0 and although it's only Android 2.2, it just works as it should.
The only thing that bothered me was that there are no toggles for wifi/Bluetooth etc in the notification bar, but there's a little mod to flash that enables that as well, so now it's spot on.
I'd recommend this for daily use.
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I've found that pretty much any Sense GB ROM has glitches here and there, whether it be MMS not sending, camera flash timing, video playback stuttering etc etc etc.
About 4 days ago, I went back to Leedroid 2.5.0 and although it's only Android 2.2, it just works as it should.
The only thing that bothered me was that there are no toggles for wifi/Bluetooth etc in the notification bar, but there's a little mod to flash that enables that as well, so now it's spot on.
I'd recommend this for daily use.
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That's because the "any Sense GB ROM" you referred to are all ports! Naturally, there will be bugs. Anything based on official HTC RUU-GB Roms like Supernova, Teppic, Alex-V; or Froyo Roms-StarBurst, old Leedroid shouldnt have issues.
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That's because the "any Sense GB ROM" you referred to are all ports! Naturally, there will be bugs. Anything based on official HTC RUU-GB Roms like Supernova, Teppic, Alex-V; or Froyo Roms-StarBurst, old Leedroid shouldnt have issues.
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I hear you, and I'd expect glitches in ROMs ported from other devices, but even 2.3 ROMs based on the official update for the Desire from HTC (EG http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1210178) have issues in my experience.
It feels kinda wrong rolling back to 2.2, but it works well, so.........
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I hear you, and I'd expect glitches in ROMs ported from other devices, but even 2.3 ROMs based on the official update for the Desire from HTC (EG http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1210178) have issues in my experience.
It feels kinda wrong rolling back to 2.2, but it works well, so.........
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Well, that Rom says "I removed all things that you'll never use and added some other thing like torch. "
Self explanatory, eh?
Droidzone said:
Well, that Rom says "I removed all things that you'll never use and added some other thing like torch. "
Self explanatory, eh?
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Lol, I guess!
My main gripes are:
- Camera capturing images just as the flash is switching off, so pics come out too dark
- Audio and Video being out of sync on videos recorded with the camcorder, when the resolution is set to anything higher than 640x480
(I have a 3 yr old son, so the camera/videocamera gets used a lot!!)
So what about your ROM?
Can you confirm whether these issues are apparent in it?
I've been reading about it and it sounds great, but there's no point flashing it if these issues occur!!
Many thanks
Unfortunately, I've not really tested these details specifically on SuperNova (my work is mainly based on advanced system scripts), and cant test it at the moment, since...wait for it..I'm on my Froyo Rom, StarBurst If I test it out later, I'll update this thread with my results
The reason I switched back to Froyo was the superior network and wifi drivers, which will never be solved on GB Sense without source/a better Ruu..
if you want sense, you should try silky tobasco's
if not oxygen is the best..
tarikg said:
if you want sense, you should try silky tobasco's
if not oxygen is the best..
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tarikg = adamg?
Hmmm...
at the moment, GB AOSP ROMs are relatively more stable than the GB Sense ROMs (with Sense 1.9, 2.1, 3.0 and 3.5 or hybrid/2.1+3.0)
GB Sense ROMs are still not yet mature (my opinion) and as usual, maturity increases along with the developing time.
If you want really reliable ROMs, use Froyo Sense ROMs or any other AOSP or MIUI ROMs.
BTW:
I am now on GB Oxygen (http://forum.oxygen.im/)
and waiting for ICS
I really really hope the devs can come up with stable ICS for daily usage.
Ok, so I've tried a couple sense roms on my g2 and run into a constant issue. Whenever I use the browser and switch to different app the browser closes all the windows except the last page I was on. Is this normal or is there a setting to keep all the windows open?
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Ok, so I've tried a couple sense roms on my g2 and run into a constant issue. Whenever I use the browser and switch to different app the browser closes all the windows except the last page I was on. Is this normal or is there a setting to keep all the windows open?
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Thats because sense ROMs lack multitasking, multitasking uses RAM, and sense ROMs eats RAM so it eats multitasking... The only way to solve it is to make a SWAP partition on you sdcard... This makes a part of your sdcard working as RAM... Thus enabling multitasking (i made it today, works great)
Link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1323447
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Thats because sense ROMs lack multitasking, multitasking uses RAM, and sense ROMs eats RAM so it eats multitasking... The only way to solve it is to make a SWAP partition on you sdcard... This makes a part of your sdcard working as RAM... Thus enabling multitasking (i made it today, works great)
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I think Sense browser just discards all tabs by default, even on Sense 2.1 and 100mb+ free RAM.
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I think Sense browser just discards all tabs by default, even on Sense 2.1 and 100mb+ free RAM.
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maybe... but i remember when i had stock unrooted... i would go to an app... when reverting back to the browser, the tabs reload themselves...
i could be wrong tho
89dynasty said:
Ok, so I've tried a couple sense roms on my g2 and run into a constant issue. Whenever I use the browser and switch to different app the browser closes all the windows except the last page I was on. Is this normal or is there a setting to keep all the windows open?
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Try using dolphin browser,search I in market its free,i find it better than stock HTC browser,and it won't close all tab.It just reload those page when u go back.. =>
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I was wondering if this happened in Virtuous Sense for you.
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Riro, you really need to actually judge sense based off Sense 2.1 or Virtuous Sense. Sense 3.0 or 3.5 was never meant to be run on the g2/dz.
It's like running a computer that runs ok on windows xp but does not meet the requirement for windows 7. even if you get windows 7 on it, you wont get the experience you would have if your machine meets that spec.
I have over 100mb of ram constantly on virtuous sense and that's the standard that you need to base it off, not sense 3 or 3.5.
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Riro, you really need to actually judge sense based off Sense 2.1 or Virtuous Sense. Sense 3.0 or 3.5 was never meant to be run on the g2/dz.
It's like running a computer that runs ok on windows xp but does not meet the requirement for windows 7. even if you get windows 7 on it, you wont get the experience you would have if your machine meets that spec.
I have over 100mb of ram constantly on virtuous sense and that's the standard that you need to base it off, not sense 3 or 3.5.
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oops... i should have said, "sense 3.x lacks multitasking while running on our device"
EDIT: ok, i'm on virtuous sense 2, and i'm switching between the stock browser, and tapatalk... And the windows doesn't dissappear... Although i applied the v6 supercharger script... But i don't think it matters much... Maybe after partitioning the sdcard, it would solve the OP's problem... But i'm clean
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Hello. I need help regarding the best ROM for my Desire Z. I need either sense 3.0 or sense 3.5 and need the best possible ram as i have already installed 4 ROMs and i have had problems with lags in messages and the lag in circle ring lock. overall homescreens as smooth but i need ram for reading msgs fast and applications launch quickly like on my default sense 2.1. i have tried runnydroid which is probably the fastest in homescreen scrolling but very weak in ram and opening apps. currently running desire HD rom with sense 3.0 v1.3 which is slightly better but i need something better in terms of RAM and with sense 3.0 or 3.5
help would be really appreciated
thanks
first of all, let's clear things out... sense 3.x was never meant to run on our desire z, i say HTC made a mistake when they released an official 3.x update
second, sense 3.x needs LOTS of ram to work. So, you don't have enough ram to run apps, solution? try the v6 supercharger script, set it as multitasking settings...
want more? make a SWAP partition on your sdcard, SWAP makes a part of your sdcard to work as ram...
want even more, you can bulletproof you messages app in order not to automatically kill it when in need of ram
i'll give you links if you want
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Riro Zizo; I'll take you up on that offer of links please!
Stick with AOSP.
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v6 supercharger script & guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=991276
SWAP: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1323447
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First of all thanks for your kind replies. Riro Zizo thanks alot for these links. Can you tell me which ROM what work the best with these? the thing is that there must be a ROM which would be better in RAM performance. like my desire HD rom was better than runnydroid at least it was usable. now what do u mean by official sense 3.0 update? my last update was android 2.3.3 with 2.1 sense which is why i installed custom roms to get newer sense. thanks a lot
and blackknightavalon what do u mean by AOSP?
thanks a lot
oh one more thing. ive heard that with swap the sdcard gets a lower life and it dies quickly after a while
Android open source project. Like CyanogenMod, for example.
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Same position as you on Desire Z and HAD to have Sense 3 - well after trying Unity and Affinity and another that wouldn't even boot and loads of crashes and mem issues I gave up. Yes I did the swap partition (for Leedroid/Ace but those never would install via CM recovery 5) didn't do the supercharger thing...but eventually went to G-Lite and really happy.
Sense is great but slow/laggy, even on Virtuous Sense or my stock rom...my OTA GB was slow too. Best to find or invest in a few apps or widgets and switch to a non Sense rom like G-Lite cos RAM is a real issue on the Z it seems (reason for rooting apart from the usual privacy/adware stuffs was speed, upset at seeing LOADING every time I opened my homescreen)
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Same position as you on Desire Z and HAD to have Sense 3 - well after trying Unity and Affinity and another that wouldn't even boot and loads of crashes and mem issues I gave up. Yes I did the swap partition (for Leedroid/Ace but those never would install via CM recovery 5) didn't do the supercharger thing...but eventually went to G-Lite and really happy.
Sense is great but slow/laggy, even on Virtuous Sense or my stock rom...my OTA GB was slow too. Best to find or invest in a few apps or widgets and switch to a non Sense rom like G-Lite cos RAM is a real issue on the Z it seems (reason for rooting apart from the usual privacy/adware stuffs was speed, upset at seeing LOADING every time I opened my homescreen)
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I agree... Sense-less ROMs are the best ones and they run the smoothest on Desire Z. I first took on CM7 and then moved to Bulletproof's MIUI which stopped me from selling my phone. However, even then the phone started to lag after a months use. Next step was to move to Elitemod244 which is basically based on CM7 but supercharged and ultra-fast. This stopped me from dumping my phone to get a Galaxy Nexus.
I would recommend that you try Elitemod244 (or the latest version if you want) and then modify it to your liking. It will take some time, but at least your phone will be fast and would work as it should instead of hanging or reloading the launcher time n time again.
thanks for your kind replies but the thing is i NEED sense 3.0 or 3.5 and i will run this desire HD rom if i dont get any other roms. ive already used cyangenmod already but i need sense. are there any roms which might be better than the desire HD rom? and im recently having an issue that i dont receive all text messages and some of these are lost in this particular rom. any way to fix this?
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thanks for your kind replies but the thing is i NEED sense 3.0 or 3.5 and i will run this desire HD rom if i dont get any other roms. ive already used cyangenmod already but i need sense. are there any roms which might be better than the desire HD rom? and im recently having an issue that i dont receive all text messages and some of these are lost in this particular rom. any way to fix this?
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In that case i would go for Virtuous Sense, doesn't have to much bullsht in it..
And for the lost messages, there is standard an app installed in these roms that collects all your messages.
Btw.. I'm surfing xda for 2 years now daily, and today is the first time i made an account Really EVERYTHING about everything has been asked before i came here, so there was no need for it.
Just wanted to say this...
you can try any sense rom you want without any issues if you do all these tweaks i told you about... launcher reloads can be solved by making a file called "local.prop" in /data/ (if you already have the file, edit it) and put this inside it
Code:
ro.HOME_APP_ADJ=1
and reboot... this WILL solve your problem, GUARANTEED
Why do you need Sense that bad? We're trying to get rid of it over on the MT4GS boards.
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thanks for your kind replies but the thing is i NEED sense 3.0 or 3.5 and i will run this desire HD rom if i dont get any other roms. ive already used cyangenmod already but i need sense. are there any roms which might be better than the desire HD rom? and im recently having an issue that i dont receive all text messages and some of these are lost in this particular rom. any way to fix this?
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Just curious, what do you need Sense for?
I was losing text messages also, but I solved that by preventing the messaging apk from being closed. It's a simple setting in Cyanogenmod, but I believe that is what Riro Zizo is talking about when they say Bulletproof an app.
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Just curious, what do you need Sense for?
I was losing text messages also, but I solved that by preventing the messaging apk from being closed. It's a simple setting in Cyanogenmod, but I believe that is what Riro Zizo is talking about when they say Bulletproof an app.
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bulletproofing apps means preventing it from getting killed... you were right
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Blackout incredible has Sense 3.6 And when I apply the v6Supercharger it works pretty fine. But remember that you need to Format your SD card before you install it. It gives you extra performance. atleast it happened to me.
I fully understand why you might want a SENSE rom.
I have tried many roms since my DZ is out of warranty, the Mimicry one was nearly the best, except it had bad performances after some weeks of usage.
And this AOSP was a android 4 rom with nice custom features, but there was a LOT i missed from SENSE. Let's just talk about the weather/clock widget, the audio player, the FM radio app, the nice interface, the perfect virtual keyboard...
Sense really offers the best user experience on that phone.
A few days ago I finally the perfect rom, you should try it: TrickDroid 4.0.0
As told in the corresponding topic on xda, you just absolutely need to enable swap because it's a full Sense 4.
And if you want some specific tweaks from AOSP, of you want to remove some things from Sense, the TrickDroid Tweaks allows you to simply do that.
TrickDroid on xda: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1981059