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[reguest] sense 3.0

any possibilty the sense 3.0 lockscreen and maybe other widgets/apps wil be ported to the htc hero touch g2?

stroobach said:
any possibilty the sense 3.0 lockscreen and maybe other widgets/apps wil be ported to the htc hero touch g2?
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nice idea..

i saw a review.. and the lockscreen is so freaking brilliant ^^
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjCI9CFp6ew&feature=related

we allready have that lockscreen on SalsaSense-1.3 Beta

Ciprilik said:
we allready have that lockscreen on SalsaSense-1.3 Beta
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not completly.. the 3.0 has live wallpaper thingy and weather service on there lockscreen.. thats what i ment for the htc hero

Umm.. It's really unlikely, we might be able to get some apps but I doubt it. Sense 3.0 OS very heavy on the CPU, I'll look into it though when I have the time.
Sent from my HTC Hero using XDA App

Won't the libs and res be a bit awkward as well?

NO CHANCE
Guys if you want Sense 3.0 buy a new phone. The OS is to heavy for the little hero to run on. For the moment even Sense 2.1 runs like hell on the hero, imagine 3.0. If you guys wanna give a help with sense 2.1 find a way to reduce the number of home screens from 7 to 3 .

I'm guessing that you can do that under Sense, 'stefpaul'

k0zmic said:
Won't the libs and res be a bit awkward as well?
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Yeah and I think it has those .m10 files which need de-compiling.

1ceb0x said:
I'm guessing that you can do that under Sense, 'stefpaul'
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Don't know how to do that... If you find a way tell us

Apktool Rosie.apk and edit a file in there, not sure which.
Sent from my HTC Hero using XDA App

stefpaul said:
Guys if you want Sense 3.0 buy a new phone. The OS is to heavy for the little hero to run on. For the moment even Sense 2.1 runs like hell on the hero, imagine 3.0. If you guys wanna give a help with sense 2.1 find a way to reduce the number of home screens from 7 to 3 .
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sense 2.1 is fine LoL - HTC released it for the hero after all, it's plenty fast. try elelinux's 2.1 sense rom, it's outstanding. no need to cut down any resources.
but sense 2.2 and 2.3 are not running all that well - 2.3 just is barely fast enough when overclocked and still lags at times and certainly runs out of memory all the time on the hero. but it's at least usable if you're careful how you set it up.
3.0 ain't gonna happen. and honestly, 2.3 sense really ain't gonna happen either, not in a really smooth workable state. but I doubt that's jsut the fault of sense - AOSP and CM 2.3 roms also have huge memory requirements and big slowdowns and poor screen redraw speeds in some situations....

Wrong thread sorry. But I think this idea wouldn't be easy to implement.

Theres a brilliant facebook chat app with a great widget, I personally would love it if this could be ported. I wish i had the knowledge to at least try it myself

yes please port the facebook chat widget and more apps.

You know, Google is a great tool when you want to learn something. If you want stuff ported, why not try yourself?
Sent from my HTC Hero using XDA App

JieeHD said:
You know, Google is a great tool when you want to learn something. If you want stuff ported, why not try yourself?
Sent from my HTC Hero using XDA App
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haha
<caveat>oh and by the way, in my previous post about sense versions I actually mean android versions containing sense, not the sense version numbers. Maybe the person I was replying to was listing sense version numbers, not android version numbers.... </caveat>

JieeHD said:
You know, Google is a great tool when you want to learn something. If you want stuff ported, why not try yourself?
Sent from my HTC Hero using XDA App
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You know, I might just try that

dkelley said:
sense 2.1 is fine LoL - HTC released it for the hero after all, it's plenty fast. try elelinux's 2.1 sense rom, it's outstanding. no need to cut down any resources.
but sense 2.2 and 2.3 are not running all that well - 2.3 just is barely fast enough when overclocked and still lags at times and certainly runs out of memory all the time on the hero. but it's at least usable if you're careful how you set it up.
3.0 ain't gonna happen. and honestly, 2.3 sense really ain't gonna happen either, not in a really smooth workable state. but I doubt that's jsut the fault of sense - AOSP and CM 2.3 roms also have huge memory requirements and big slowdowns and poor screen redraw speeds in some situations....
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Read my post again...
Sense 2.1 is android 2.3.3; Sense 3.0 is android 2.3.3 or 2.3.4
Elelinux has a 1.5 Sense in a 2.1 version of android

[Q] Help with launcher lag

Im currently using XboarderMOD AOSP Gingerbread v3.0.1 and there is a considerable amount of lag when scrolling back and forth through homescreens with the stock launcher. Ive found that this completely goes away once i open and close the app drawer, but the lag will come back once i open any app and go back to home. This is a problem ive had with many roms, the only one that doesnt do it is virtuous g-lite. Anyone else have this problem or know whats causing it and how to fix it?

I havent used this ROM, but I similarly experienced when used Virtuos Unity 1.31 this is maybe due to Sense 3.5. Maybe it is because the RAM is not enough. Remember DZ Ram is only 512 MB.
Now, I am back with the stock ROM and it runs smooth ....( but I m planning to flash VIrtuos Fusion 2.0)...

silverwind said:
I havent used this ROM, but I similarly experienced when used Virtuos Unity 1.31 this is maybe due to Sense 3.5. Maybe it is because the RAM is not enough. Remember DZ Ram is only 512 MB.
Now, I am back with the stock ROM and it runs smooth ....( but I m planning to flash VIrtuos Fusion 2.0)...
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i doubt its a lack of ram, i have over 200mb free when it happens.

ebkillaz said:
i doubt its a lack of ram, i have over 200mb free when it happens.
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really? I have Flyer, it has 1 GB RAM and Sense UI is running so smooth
In DZ, I even overclocked it to 1.5 GHz (the same clock speed as Flyer) but still lagging
And, last night I flash Virtuos Sense 2.00. It runs so smooth... try it

silverwind said:
really? I have Flyer, it has 1 GB RAM and Sense UI is running so smooth
In DZ, I even overclocked it to 1.5 GHz (the same clock speed as Flyer) but still lagging
And, last night I flash Virtuos Sense 2.00. It runs so smooth... try it
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i hate sense haha. im just looking for a fix to this, its obvious other people arent having this problem, ive searched everywhere for it.

ebkillaz said:
i hate sense haha. im just looking for a fix to this, its obvious other people arent having this problem, ive searched everywhere for it.
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I think so

ebkillaz said:
Im currently using XboarderMOD AOSP Gingerbread v3.0.1 and there is a considerable amount of lag when scrolling back and forth through homescreens with the stock launcher. Ive found that this completely goes away once i open and close the app drawer, but the lag will come back once i open any app and go back to home. This is a problem ive had with many roms, the only one that doesnt do it is virtuous g-lite. Anyone else have this problem or know whats causing it and how to fix it?
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Why not give a home replacement launcher a try? Or have you already...? I always recommend LauncherPro+.

Ditamae said:
Why not give a home replacement launcher a try? Or have you already...? I always recommend LauncherPro+.
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ive tried them all, i dont really like them, im just looking to fix this, i like the stock launcher the most.

ebkillaz said:
ive tried them all, i dont really like them, im just looking to fix this, i like the stock launcher the most.
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Buy ADW EX, and then install this
https://market.android.com/details?id=kov.adwtheme.bakedgoods&hl=en
Very smooth

i prefer the stock launcher, adw, launcher pro, go launcher etc. are all choppy when i use live wallpapers, which is my reason for liking the stock launcher.

ebkillaz said:
i prefer the stock launcher, adw, launcher pro, go launcher etc. are all choppy when i use live wallpapers, which is my reason for liking the stock launcher.
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I think its a hardware acceleration problem (as in, there's no HW accel). The stock launcher won't be as smooth as aftermarket launchers that use different resources to increase smoothness.

See my signature...

Good stable 2.3 rom

Im looking for a good, stable rom to use with either a2sd or a2sd+ inatalled, i got a 400mb ext3 partition and i am currently using MIUI.
Thank you.
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you're using one.

I know but i really feel like a change for a ifferent rom with different features as i have been using MIUI for quite some time now so i really feel like using something different.

aaron187 said:
Im looking for a good, stable rom to use with either a2sd or a2sd+ inatalled, i got a 400mb ext3 partition and i am currently using MIUI.
Thank you.
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App
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There are a few you can choose from: SGBS, Runnymede AIO, just to mention a few.
Sent from my HTC Desire using xda premium

Try Redux 2

You could try Tamirda's Revolution rom (sense 2.1+3.0) fast and very stable. Or maybe you want some AOSP lovin you could try MildWild oxygen based ICS themed rom. Both are awesome

The most stable, fastest 2.3 rom i've use on MY desire is GingerVillian 3.3. I know its abit old now, but I've tried the latest CM7 nightly build (262 - no more have been made in a while) both with and without custom kernels, with n without a2sd / data2sd (tried a2sdx but caused FCs from what i could tell) I have also tried ALL the sense ROMs and they just do not compare, MIUI is ALMOST as fast but not quite....
The fastest/best setup imho is as follows:
-CM7r2 hboot
-GV 3.3 (maybe remove a few apps from system as they r out of date - like youtube)
-do not use dalvik to sd, slows it down... imho
-class 6(+) sdcard with 512(mine is actually 1024) sdext (ext4) using ext4 recovery
-use villian setup to install 3.1 wifi pm_fast module
I have tried many different ways of setting up my phone with several ext partitions, or just one large one... and after a week or two of useage, im ALWAYS finding that its just NOT as fast as GV. however the sense 3.5 roms are most defiantly more beautiful! but just NOT AS FAST. I have 350+ app elements according to titianium backup pro. and it STILL doesnt slow down. I mean it boots in less than 30secs everytime!
I do personally use Go launcher EX (system perm n removed other launcher) and the Go widgets and GoSMS Pro (mms.apk still in system), however, if you have ALL the effects on go launcher enabled, you can see the difference, i suggest just picking one you like, and sticking with it, just dont use random.... however at the end of the day, the use of the Go for Android apps, does effect performance SLIGHTLY, however between that and the tmobile theme engine, I can make my phone look how i want, and still have it faster than any other rom ive tried...
thats it! its PERFECT!

mattyyey said:
The most stable, fastest 2.3 rom i've use on MY desire is GingerVillian 3.3. I know its abit old now, but I've tried the latest CM7 nightly build (262 - no more have been made in a while) both with and without custom kernels, with n without a2sd / data2sd (tried a2sdx but caused FCs from what i could tell) I have also tried ALL the sense ROMs and they just do not compare, MIUI is ALMOST as fast but not quite....
The fastest/best setup imho is as follows:
-CM7r2 hboot
-GV 3.3 (maybe remove a few apps from system as they r out of date - like youtube)
-do not use dalvik to sd, slows it down... imho
-class 6(+) sdcard with 512(mine is actually 1024) sdext (ext4) using ext4 recovery
-use villian setup to install 3.1 wifi pm_fast module
I have tried many different ways of setting up my phone with several ext partitions, or just one large one... and after a week or two of useage, im ALWAYS finding that its just NOT as fast as GV. however the sense 3.5 roms are most defiantly more beautiful! but just NOT AS FAST. I have 350+ app elements according to titianium backup pro. and it STILL doesnt slow down. I mean it boots in less than 30secs everytime!
I do personally use Go launcher EX (system perm n removed other launcher) and the Go widgets and GoSMS Pro (mms.apk still in system), however, if you have ALL the effects on go launcher enabled, you can see the difference, i suggest just picking one you like, and sticking with it, just dont use random.... however at the end of the day, the use of the Go for Android apps, does effect performance SLIGHTLY, however between that and the tmobile theme engine, I can make my phone look how i want, and still have it faster than any other rom ive tried...
thats it! its PERFECT!
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Nice answer. I'm with you 100% but I do like Sense for the Facebook integration (can upload pictures so easily as thumbnails instead of links). I'm currently trying to find the fastest Sense Rom to use with Go Launcher, which will leave me with the most amount of free ram possible...

Mattster_spv said:
Nice answer. I'm with you 100% but I do like Sense for the Facebook integration (can upload pictures so easily as thumbnails instead of links). I'm currently trying to find the fastest Sense Rom to use with Go Launcher, which will leave me with the most amount of free ram possible...
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I agree the Facebook / Twitter intergration is awesome in Sense, if i could get the Sense contacts n dialler on aosp, I'd deffo do that! but I got round this problem by exporting my FB m8s via a CSV card and then imported into google contacts... Then using syncmypix I have everyone setup correctly. Effort I know but it works! If you do this, the FB app syncs / links nicely.
I have never suggested using an alternative launcher on sense (with the exception of if you dont have root and i dont think the user is smart enough to root it safely) as while it does give more free RAM, you miss the best parts of sense; THE WIDGETS!
The Sense framework will ALWAYS be running in the background taking up some RAM, so you might as well use it... imho anyways...

I really like the runnymede AIO V4.0 Special edition! If you want something smooth and different, try that one

[Q] Best ROM for Desire Z for BEST RAM PERFORMANCE

Hello. I need help regarding the best ROM for my Desire Z. I need either sense 3.0 or sense 3.5 and need the best possible ram as i have already installed 4 ROMs and i have had problems with lags in messages and the lag in circle ring lock. overall homescreens as smooth but i need ram for reading msgs fast and applications launch quickly like on my default sense 2.1. i have tried runnydroid which is probably the fastest in homescreen scrolling but very weak in ram and opening apps. currently running desire HD rom with sense 3.0 v1.3 which is slightly better but i need something better in terms of RAM and with sense 3.0 or 3.5
help would be really appreciated
thanks

first of all, let's clear things out... sense 3.x was never meant to run on our desire z, i say HTC made a mistake when they released an official 3.x update
second, sense 3.x needs LOTS of ram to work. So, you don't have enough ram to run apps, solution? try the v6 supercharger script, set it as multitasking settings...
want more? make a SWAP partition on your sdcard, SWAP makes a part of your sdcard to work as ram...
want even more, you can bulletproof you messages app in order not to automatically kill it when in need of ram
i'll give you links if you want
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Riro Zizo; I'll take you up on that offer of links please!

Stick with AOSP.
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v6 supercharger script & guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=991276
SWAP: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1323447
Bulletproof apps: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1012330
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First of all thanks for your kind replies. Riro Zizo thanks alot for these links. Can you tell me which ROM what work the best with these? the thing is that there must be a ROM which would be better in RAM performance. like my desire HD rom was better than runnydroid at least it was usable. now what do u mean by official sense 3.0 update? my last update was android 2.3.3 with 2.1 sense which is why i installed custom roms to get newer sense. thanks a lot
and blackknightavalon what do u mean by AOSP?
thanks a lot
oh one more thing. ive heard that with swap the sdcard gets a lower life and it dies quickly after a while

Android open source project. Like CyanogenMod, for example.
Sent from my HTC Vision using XDA App

Same position as you on Desire Z and HAD to have Sense 3 - well after trying Unity and Affinity and another that wouldn't even boot and loads of crashes and mem issues I gave up. Yes I did the swap partition (for Leedroid/Ace but those never would install via CM recovery 5) didn't do the supercharger thing...but eventually went to G-Lite and really happy.
Sense is great but slow/laggy, even on Virtuous Sense or my stock rom...my OTA GB was slow too. Best to find or invest in a few apps or widgets and switch to a non Sense rom like G-Lite cos RAM is a real issue on the Z it seems (reason for rooting apart from the usual privacy/adware stuffs was speed, upset at seeing LOADING every time I opened my homescreen)

fingertrouble said:
Same position as you on Desire Z and HAD to have Sense 3 - well after trying Unity and Affinity and another that wouldn't even boot and loads of crashes and mem issues I gave up. Yes I did the swap partition (for Leedroid/Ace but those never would install via CM recovery 5) didn't do the supercharger thing...but eventually went to G-Lite and really happy.
Sense is great but slow/laggy, even on Virtuous Sense or my stock rom...my OTA GB was slow too. Best to find or invest in a few apps or widgets and switch to a non Sense rom like G-Lite cos RAM is a real issue on the Z it seems (reason for rooting apart from the usual privacy/adware stuffs was speed, upset at seeing LOADING every time I opened my homescreen)
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I agree... Sense-less ROMs are the best ones and they run the smoothest on Desire Z. I first took on CM7 and then moved to Bulletproof's MIUI which stopped me from selling my phone. However, even then the phone started to lag after a months use. Next step was to move to Elitemod244 which is basically based on CM7 but supercharged and ultra-fast. This stopped me from dumping my phone to get a Galaxy Nexus.
I would recommend that you try Elitemod244 (or the latest version if you want) and then modify it to your liking. It will take some time, but at least your phone will be fast and would work as it should instead of hanging or reloading the launcher time n time again.

thanks for your kind replies but the thing is i NEED sense 3.0 or 3.5 and i will run this desire HD rom if i dont get any other roms. ive already used cyangenmod already but i need sense. are there any roms which might be better than the desire HD rom? and im recently having an issue that i dont receive all text messages and some of these are lost in this particular rom. any way to fix this?

yasirrfc said:
thanks for your kind replies but the thing is i NEED sense 3.0 or 3.5 and i will run this desire HD rom if i dont get any other roms. ive already used cyangenmod already but i need sense. are there any roms which might be better than the desire HD rom? and im recently having an issue that i dont receive all text messages and some of these are lost in this particular rom. any way to fix this?
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In that case i would go for Virtuous Sense, doesn't have to much bullsht in it..
And for the lost messages, there is standard an app installed in these roms that collects all your messages.
Btw.. I'm surfing xda for 2 years now daily, and today is the first time i made an account Really EVERYTHING about everything has been asked before i came here, so there was no need for it.
Just wanted to say this...

you can try any sense rom you want without any issues if you do all these tweaks i told you about... launcher reloads can be solved by making a file called "local.prop" in /data/ (if you already have the file, edit it) and put this inside it
Code:
ro.HOME_APP_ADJ=1
and reboot... this WILL solve your problem, GUARANTEED

Why do you need Sense that bad? We're trying to get rid of it over on the MT4GS boards.

yasirrfc said:
thanks for your kind replies but the thing is i NEED sense 3.0 or 3.5 and i will run this desire HD rom if i dont get any other roms. ive already used cyangenmod already but i need sense. are there any roms which might be better than the desire HD rom? and im recently having an issue that i dont receive all text messages and some of these are lost in this particular rom. any way to fix this?
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Just curious, what do you need Sense for?
I was losing text messages also, but I solved that by preventing the messaging apk from being closed. It's a simple setting in Cyanogenmod, but I believe that is what Riro Zizo is talking about when they say Bulletproof an app.

kierren said:
Just curious, what do you need Sense for?
I was losing text messages also, but I solved that by preventing the messaging apk from being closed. It's a simple setting in Cyanogenmod, but I believe that is what Riro Zizo is talking about when they say Bulletproof an app.
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bulletproofing apps means preventing it from getting killed... you were right
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Blackout incredible has Sense 3.6 And when I apply the v6Supercharger it works pretty fine. But remember that you need to Format your SD card before you install it. It gives you extra performance. atleast it happened to me.

I fully understand why you might want a SENSE rom.
I have tried many roms since my DZ is out of warranty, the Mimicry one was nearly the best, except it had bad performances after some weeks of usage.
And this AOSP was a android 4 rom with nice custom features, but there was a LOT i missed from SENSE. Let's just talk about the weather/clock widget, the audio player, the FM radio app, the nice interface, the perfect virtual keyboard...
Sense really offers the best user experience on that phone.
A few days ago I finally the perfect rom, you should try it: TrickDroid 4.0.0
As told in the corresponding topic on xda, you just absolutely need to enable swap because it's a full Sense 4.
And if you want some specific tweaks from AOSP, of you want to remove some things from Sense, the TrickDroid Tweaks allows you to simply do that.
TrickDroid on xda: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1981059

Will HTC Sense 4.0 be available for Desire from xda when released?

Main features from Sense 4.0 as follows:
Based on Ice-cream sandwich (long waited android OS)
Better DropBox integration with 50GB online storage (can auto mount as network drive.)
Notifications on lock screen (like iOS 5)
Enhanced email with new Sense
Guest Mode
Beats audio is now standard from HTC now on ...
Video:
Reference:
http://pocketnow.com/android/htc-sense-40-first-impressions

Depends...
The memory footprint for sense keeps on growing and becoming larger with each new version
I suspect ICS + Sense 4.0 will take up a huge amount of memory.
I'm quite sure there will be a way to get it, but your internal memory will be less.
Sent from my HTC Desire S using xda premium

I thought they (htc) were suppose to have optimized 3.5 a lot for low-spec phones (i.e. bliss).
I'd guess that unless it comes to the Desire HD / Sensation then it might be a bit unlikely. ICS with sense 3.5 from the sensation doesn't seem to have had a successful port yet.

Lothaen said:
I thought they (htc) were suppose to have optimized 3.5 a lot for low-spec phones (i.e. bliss).
I'd guess that unless it comes to the Desire HD / Sensation then it might be a bit unlikely. ICS with sense 3.5 from the sensation doesn't seem to have had a successful port yet.
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True. That have optimized the newer versions for performance and speed.
However, along the way, they have been adding new apps and widgets which take up space. (fb chat, reader, watch, notes, tasks etc) this means the footprint gets larger.
However, I have read that HTC are aware that their Sense UI has started to become bloated, and they say Sense 4.0 will be a lot different.
Hopefully that's the case.
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i think that no... and if we run one, will be asop...

Of course it's possible, just a matter of time

it'd be easy to reduce the load on sense though by removing some of the bloatware
laputa, stocks for example I always rip out - fb chat, reader, watch can probably easily go too
i still think the BEST way for HTC to go with the likes of bloatware would be to just simply move it to HTC hub as optional downloads/installs rather than forcing crap on users

Lothaen said:
it'd be easy to reduce the load on sense though by removing some of the bloatware
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I agree on this, most of the HTC apps should be optional which could speed up the system. One of the main problem is get the hardware CPU/GPU support from Qualcomm optimize for ICS.

Am I the only one thinking that Sense 4 so far seems to be to cosmetic? Just like 3 was, i think they stepped it up only with 3.5

guesXy said:
Am I the only one thinking that Sense 4 so far seems to be to cosmetic? Just like 3 was, i think they stepped it up only with 3.5
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Well, we haven't really had a in depth look so we can't reall say.
Apparently they have really stepped up their game, and this is the biggest overhaul of the UI to date!
Sent from my HTC Desire S using xda premium

Even 3.5 Sense is incredibly slow on Desire. Why should anyone use such slow GUI?
ICS 4.0 AOSP will be better and faster solution.
Sent from my HTC Desire using Tapatalk

olyloh6696 said:
Well, we haven't really had a in depth look so we can't reall say.
Apparently they have really stepped up their game, and this is the biggest overhaul of the UI to date!
Sent from my HTC Desire S using xda premium
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Not seeing it yet
I thought Sense 2.1 -> Sense 3.0 was one of the bigger overhauls - but even then most of it was minor (i.e. new lockscreen was fairly major, but 3D widgets and carousel was fairly minor)
I guess Sense 1.x -> 2.0/2.1 was fairly major too as they added HTC Sense and HTC Hub - but again one major feature to a lot of minor tweaks..
3.x to 4.x seems to be about the same, with the major update being.... ? the menu animations?

DilbertZG said:
Even 3.5 Sense is incredibly slow on Desire. Why should anyone use such slow GUI?
ICS 4.0 AOSP will be better and faster solution.
Sent from my HTC Desire using Tapatalk
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Well that tells me you not tried all sense 3.5 roms out.
Sab... 15 Runnymede rom is super fast as long you have the sd card for it class 4 and above.
I would even say this rom is faster than miui and that's saying something.
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shankly1985 said:
Well that tells me you not tried all sense 3.5 roms out.
Sab... 15 Runnymede rom is super fast as long you have the sd card for it class 4 and above.
I would even say this rom is faster than miui and that's saying something.
Sent from my HTC Desire using xda premium
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Runnymede sense 3.5 rom is fast for me too.
Just add a video link (1st post) showing the new sense look.

Tried Runnymede and lots of ROM from XDA. It looks great,but I always felt lag in it.
Then I go back to Sense 2.1+3.0 ROM. A lot faster than Runnymede. And I do no want to use Runnymede again. Class 4 SD used.
Just put 2 Desires on table, one with Runnymede and other with, let's say, Revolution ROM. And then tell me which one works fast and smooth? Also, on which ROM battery will last longer, under same conditions?
Please, be real and objective.
3.5 ROMs are slow on Desire compared to 2.1+3.0. Period.
Sent from my HTC Flyer P510e using Tapatalk

DilbertZG said:
Tried Runnymede and lots of ROM from XDA. It looks great,but I always felt lag in it.
Then I go back to Sense 2.1+3.0 ROM. A lot faster than Runnymede. And I do no want to use Runnymede again. Class 4 SD used.
Just put 2 Desires on table, one with Runnymede and other with, let's say, Revolution ROM. And then tell me which one works fast and smooth? Also, on which ROM battery will last longer, under same conditions?
Please, be real and objective.
3.5 ROMs are slow on Desire compared to 2.1+3.0. Period.
Sent from my HTC Flyer P510e using Tapatalk
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Not for me and I used I would say a lot of roms, this is the best of them all. For me
Sent from my HTC Desire using xda premium

I'm not going to hold my breathe on this one but we have hope

Lothaen said:
Not seeing it yet
I thought Sense 2.1 -> Sense 3.0 was one of the bigger overhauls - but even then most of it was minor (i.e. new lockscreen was fairly major, but 3D widgets and carousel was fairly minor)
I guess Sense 1.x -> 2.0/2.1 was fairly major too as they added HTC Sense and HTC Hub - but again one major feature to a lot of minor tweaks..
3.x to 4.x seems to be about the same, with the major update being.... ? the menu animations?
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Seen videos of the new Sense on the One X (if anyone is interested click here)
Seems theres a new Typeface, lockscreen seems the same as before with slightly tweaked functionality, the launcher at the bottom of the screen is changed to look a bit more like things like GoLauncher, LauncherPro etc.
Side swipe through menu with altered modes (like your favourites, recent etc) something I couldn't make out near the top as well, looks like market loader, a delete function (?)
They seem to have also altered the ICS recent apps thing, if I'm honest it looks a bit like Windows Vista/7 window view.
It seems a lot smoother and neater actually, but on the Desire? 3.5 is still clunky compared to Earlier Pure Sense (2.x etc)and Hybrids, so I'm guessing it'll be a long time till its useable, but I would love to see it implemented!
Before someone says anything like 'Yu havenet used 3.5 its awesomez and supa dupa fast' I have used it with a class 6 card, CoolBliss, did not like it, slow and juttery, went back to the Hybrids. My opinion, don't flame.