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[Q] CyanogenMod 7 or LeeDroid 3.03(when it releases)

I've been with CM7 from the start but don't know whether to stick with it now that leedroid has come up with his 3.0.X rom with Gingerbread.
I'd like your opinion of which would be better.
i.e. Pros and Cons.
Pros
:I like the look of stock GB, is there a theme for this on leedroid 3?
Fast, 1100 on average quad.
Very customize-able.e.g. performance, display, interface settings.
Cons:
low internal space, because of no A2SD++
idk anything alse.
So please convince me to go over to leedroid or stick with CM7

I'm on CM 7 and I like it.
There are some possibilities to get more space for apps. The easy one is to use GingerVillain as this ROM is based on CM 7 and has A2SD+ support. The other way is to s-off your phone and flash CM 7 hboot. The you will have over 300 MB for your apps on internal memory.
Regards,
vi.p

vi.p said:
I'm on CM 7 and I like it.
There are some possibilities to get more space for apps. The easy one is to use GingerVillain as this ROM is based on CM 7 and has A2SD+ support. The other way is to s-off your phone and flash CM 7 hboot. The you will have over 300 MB for your apps on internal memory.
Regards,
vi.p
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Where can i find CM7 Hboot!
Thx

CM7 has A2SD+. Look in Kali's thread for the rom. As for pros and cons, I've seen a lot of people with GV and they are having issues, a fair amount of issues. Currently, from my experience anyway, I've had no issues at all from CM7.
I have had CM7 for a while because I customer keep going back to it. I usually try a rom when it gets updated massively but I still end up going back to it.
Personally it is a stable rom, the most stable AOSP rom out there. I can't say anything about GV. I tried it once and I didn't like what they did to it bit this was last year.
Sent from CM7

johno168 said:
Where can i find CM7 Hboot!
Thx
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Wait never mind, found it. thx

Meaple said:
CM7 has A2SD+. Look in Kali's thread for the rom. As for pros and cons, I've seen a lot of people with GV and they are having issues, a fair amount of issues. Currently, from my experience anyway, I've had no issues at all from CM7.
I have had CM7 for a while because I customer keep going back to it. I usually try a rom when it gets updated massively but I still end up going back to it.
Personally it is a stable rom, the most stable AOSP rom out there. I can't say anything about GV. I tried it once and I didn't like what they did to it bit this was last year.
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I agree CM7 is an awesome and very stable ROM, but since using it for a while, i feel like it is a bit too stock, so imight try out leedroid, but hate the hassle of restoring apps and settings.

I used GV before switching to CM 7 and personally I had no issues with it.
@johno168: From the "look & feel" point of view its really stock, but if you get used to the cm extensions (like quiet hours, different lockscreens, ...) you won't want to live without it imho.

vi.p said:
I used GV before switching to CM 7 and personally I had no issues with it.
@johno168: From the "look & feel" point of view its really stock, but if you get used to the cm extensions (like quiet hours, different lockscreens, ...) you won't want to live without it imho.
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Yeah, thats why i love CM so much it's esaily customizable and so stable at the same time. Maybe i'll stick to CM, but do you know of any "sense themes" like the whole sense look and stuff but on CM? or Maybe even a gingerbread theme for leedroid/sense?
thx for the help!

I'm afraid you won't get the whole sense look with all widgets
Launcher Pro PLUS has some similar widgets for Friends, Facebook, Twitter, Contacts and even GMail. I use Pure Messenger too which can be skinned sense like.

vi.p said:
I'm afraid you won't get the whole sense look with all widgets
Launcher Pro PLUS has some similar widgets for Friends, Facebook, Twitter, Contacts and even GMail. I use Pure Messenger too which can be skinned sense like.
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Oh yes can you also tell me if Darktremor works on cm7, i find having really low internal is annoying

johno168 said:
Oh yes can you also tell me if Darktremor works on cm7, i find having really low internal is annoying
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i have sd-ext and S2E app from market......have 88 apps and stil 138MB free internal space
emmmmm I'm on CM7
try it

rawdealer said:
i have sd-ext and S2E app from market......have 88 apps and stil 138MB free internal space
emmmmm I'm on CM7
try it
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I have it Atm but it seems like its not working still only have 44mb after i moved it.

johno168 said:
I have it Atm but it seems like its not working still only have 44mb after i moved it.
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try with S2E...it's working for me

rawdealer said:
try with S2E...it's working for me
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I meant with s2e
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In Kali-'s CM7 Thread there is a link for instructions how to setup "Legacy App2SD" Perhaps this will work. Haven't tried it...

johno168 said:
I meant with s2e
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aha ok, in cyanogenmod settings---application---check allow app moving and in install location check internal and then try it if you allready have so, I can't help anymore

Good stable 2.3 rom

Im looking for a good, stable rom to use with either a2sd or a2sd+ inatalled, i got a 400mb ext3 partition and i am currently using MIUI.
Thank you.
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you're using one.

I know but i really feel like a change for a ifferent rom with different features as i have been using MIUI for quite some time now so i really feel like using something different.

aaron187 said:
Im looking for a good, stable rom to use with either a2sd or a2sd+ inatalled, i got a 400mb ext3 partition and i am currently using MIUI.
Thank you.
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There are a few you can choose from: SGBS, Runnymede AIO, just to mention a few.
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Try Redux 2

You could try Tamirda's Revolution rom (sense 2.1+3.0) fast and very stable. Or maybe you want some AOSP lovin you could try MildWild oxygen based ICS themed rom. Both are awesome

The most stable, fastest 2.3 rom i've use on MY desire is GingerVillian 3.3. I know its abit old now, but I've tried the latest CM7 nightly build (262 - no more have been made in a while) both with and without custom kernels, with n without a2sd / data2sd (tried a2sdx but caused FCs from what i could tell) I have also tried ALL the sense ROMs and they just do not compare, MIUI is ALMOST as fast but not quite....
The fastest/best setup imho is as follows:
-CM7r2 hboot
-GV 3.3 (maybe remove a few apps from system as they r out of date - like youtube)
-do not use dalvik to sd, slows it down... imho
-class 6(+) sdcard with 512(mine is actually 1024) sdext (ext4) using ext4 recovery
-use villian setup to install 3.1 wifi pm_fast module
I have tried many different ways of setting up my phone with several ext partitions, or just one large one... and after a week or two of useage, im ALWAYS finding that its just NOT as fast as GV. however the sense 3.5 roms are most defiantly more beautiful! but just NOT AS FAST. I have 350+ app elements according to titianium backup pro. and it STILL doesnt slow down. I mean it boots in less than 30secs everytime!
I do personally use Go launcher EX (system perm n removed other launcher) and the Go widgets and GoSMS Pro (mms.apk still in system), however, if you have ALL the effects on go launcher enabled, you can see the difference, i suggest just picking one you like, and sticking with it, just dont use random.... however at the end of the day, the use of the Go for Android apps, does effect performance SLIGHTLY, however between that and the tmobile theme engine, I can make my phone look how i want, and still have it faster than any other rom ive tried...
thats it! its PERFECT!

mattyyey said:
The most stable, fastest 2.3 rom i've use on MY desire is GingerVillian 3.3. I know its abit old now, but I've tried the latest CM7 nightly build (262 - no more have been made in a while) both with and without custom kernels, with n without a2sd / data2sd (tried a2sdx but caused FCs from what i could tell) I have also tried ALL the sense ROMs and they just do not compare, MIUI is ALMOST as fast but not quite....
The fastest/best setup imho is as follows:
-CM7r2 hboot
-GV 3.3 (maybe remove a few apps from system as they r out of date - like youtube)
-do not use dalvik to sd, slows it down... imho
-class 6(+) sdcard with 512(mine is actually 1024) sdext (ext4) using ext4 recovery
-use villian setup to install 3.1 wifi pm_fast module
I have tried many different ways of setting up my phone with several ext partitions, or just one large one... and after a week or two of useage, im ALWAYS finding that its just NOT as fast as GV. however the sense 3.5 roms are most defiantly more beautiful! but just NOT AS FAST. I have 350+ app elements according to titianium backup pro. and it STILL doesnt slow down. I mean it boots in less than 30secs everytime!
I do personally use Go launcher EX (system perm n removed other launcher) and the Go widgets and GoSMS Pro (mms.apk still in system), however, if you have ALL the effects on go launcher enabled, you can see the difference, i suggest just picking one you like, and sticking with it, just dont use random.... however at the end of the day, the use of the Go for Android apps, does effect performance SLIGHTLY, however between that and the tmobile theme engine, I can make my phone look how i want, and still have it faster than any other rom ive tried...
thats it! its PERFECT!
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Nice answer. I'm with you 100% but I do like Sense for the Facebook integration (can upload pictures so easily as thumbnails instead of links). I'm currently trying to find the fastest Sense Rom to use with Go Launcher, which will leave me with the most amount of free ram possible...

Mattster_spv said:
Nice answer. I'm with you 100% but I do like Sense for the Facebook integration (can upload pictures so easily as thumbnails instead of links). I'm currently trying to find the fastest Sense Rom to use with Go Launcher, which will leave me with the most amount of free ram possible...
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I agree the Facebook / Twitter intergration is awesome in Sense, if i could get the Sense contacts n dialler on aosp, I'd deffo do that! but I got round this problem by exporting my FB m8s via a CSV card and then imported into google contacts... Then using syncmypix I have everyone setup correctly. Effort I know but it works! If you do this, the FB app syncs / links nicely.
I have never suggested using an alternative launcher on sense (with the exception of if you dont have root and i dont think the user is smart enough to root it safely) as while it does give more free RAM, you miss the best parts of sense; THE WIDGETS!
The Sense framework will ALWAYS be running in the background taking up some RAM, so you might as well use it... imho anyways...

I really like the runnymede AIO V4.0 Special edition! If you want something smooth and different, try that one

[Q] Best ROM for Desire Z for BEST RAM PERFORMANCE

Hello. I need help regarding the best ROM for my Desire Z. I need either sense 3.0 or sense 3.5 and need the best possible ram as i have already installed 4 ROMs and i have had problems with lags in messages and the lag in circle ring lock. overall homescreens as smooth but i need ram for reading msgs fast and applications launch quickly like on my default sense 2.1. i have tried runnydroid which is probably the fastest in homescreen scrolling but very weak in ram and opening apps. currently running desire HD rom with sense 3.0 v1.3 which is slightly better but i need something better in terms of RAM and with sense 3.0 or 3.5
help would be really appreciated
thanks

first of all, let's clear things out... sense 3.x was never meant to run on our desire z, i say HTC made a mistake when they released an official 3.x update
second, sense 3.x needs LOTS of ram to work. So, you don't have enough ram to run apps, solution? try the v6 supercharger script, set it as multitasking settings...
want more? make a SWAP partition on your sdcard, SWAP makes a part of your sdcard to work as ram...
want even more, you can bulletproof you messages app in order not to automatically kill it when in need of ram
i'll give you links if you want
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Riro Zizo; I'll take you up on that offer of links please!

Stick with AOSP.
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v6 supercharger script & guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=991276
SWAP: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1323447
Bulletproof apps: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1012330
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First of all thanks for your kind replies. Riro Zizo thanks alot for these links. Can you tell me which ROM what work the best with these? the thing is that there must be a ROM which would be better in RAM performance. like my desire HD rom was better than runnydroid at least it was usable. now what do u mean by official sense 3.0 update? my last update was android 2.3.3 with 2.1 sense which is why i installed custom roms to get newer sense. thanks a lot
and blackknightavalon what do u mean by AOSP?
thanks a lot
oh one more thing. ive heard that with swap the sdcard gets a lower life and it dies quickly after a while

Android open source project. Like CyanogenMod, for example.
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Same position as you on Desire Z and HAD to have Sense 3 - well after trying Unity and Affinity and another that wouldn't even boot and loads of crashes and mem issues I gave up. Yes I did the swap partition (for Leedroid/Ace but those never would install via CM recovery 5) didn't do the supercharger thing...but eventually went to G-Lite and really happy.
Sense is great but slow/laggy, even on Virtuous Sense or my stock rom...my OTA GB was slow too. Best to find or invest in a few apps or widgets and switch to a non Sense rom like G-Lite cos RAM is a real issue on the Z it seems (reason for rooting apart from the usual privacy/adware stuffs was speed, upset at seeing LOADING every time I opened my homescreen)

fingertrouble said:
Same position as you on Desire Z and HAD to have Sense 3 - well after trying Unity and Affinity and another that wouldn't even boot and loads of crashes and mem issues I gave up. Yes I did the swap partition (for Leedroid/Ace but those never would install via CM recovery 5) didn't do the supercharger thing...but eventually went to G-Lite and really happy.
Sense is great but slow/laggy, even on Virtuous Sense or my stock rom...my OTA GB was slow too. Best to find or invest in a few apps or widgets and switch to a non Sense rom like G-Lite cos RAM is a real issue on the Z it seems (reason for rooting apart from the usual privacy/adware stuffs was speed, upset at seeing LOADING every time I opened my homescreen)
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I agree... Sense-less ROMs are the best ones and they run the smoothest on Desire Z. I first took on CM7 and then moved to Bulletproof's MIUI which stopped me from selling my phone. However, even then the phone started to lag after a months use. Next step was to move to Elitemod244 which is basically based on CM7 but supercharged and ultra-fast. This stopped me from dumping my phone to get a Galaxy Nexus.
I would recommend that you try Elitemod244 (or the latest version if you want) and then modify it to your liking. It will take some time, but at least your phone will be fast and would work as it should instead of hanging or reloading the launcher time n time again.

thanks for your kind replies but the thing is i NEED sense 3.0 or 3.5 and i will run this desire HD rom if i dont get any other roms. ive already used cyangenmod already but i need sense. are there any roms which might be better than the desire HD rom? and im recently having an issue that i dont receive all text messages and some of these are lost in this particular rom. any way to fix this?

yasirrfc said:
thanks for your kind replies but the thing is i NEED sense 3.0 or 3.5 and i will run this desire HD rom if i dont get any other roms. ive already used cyangenmod already but i need sense. are there any roms which might be better than the desire HD rom? and im recently having an issue that i dont receive all text messages and some of these are lost in this particular rom. any way to fix this?
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In that case i would go for Virtuous Sense, doesn't have to much bullsht in it..
And for the lost messages, there is standard an app installed in these roms that collects all your messages.
Btw.. I'm surfing xda for 2 years now daily, and today is the first time i made an account Really EVERYTHING about everything has been asked before i came here, so there was no need for it.
Just wanted to say this...

you can try any sense rom you want without any issues if you do all these tweaks i told you about... launcher reloads can be solved by making a file called "local.prop" in /data/ (if you already have the file, edit it) and put this inside it
Code:
ro.HOME_APP_ADJ=1
and reboot... this WILL solve your problem, GUARANTEED

Why do you need Sense that bad? We're trying to get rid of it over on the MT4GS boards.

yasirrfc said:
thanks for your kind replies but the thing is i NEED sense 3.0 or 3.5 and i will run this desire HD rom if i dont get any other roms. ive already used cyangenmod already but i need sense. are there any roms which might be better than the desire HD rom? and im recently having an issue that i dont receive all text messages and some of these are lost in this particular rom. any way to fix this?
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Just curious, what do you need Sense for?
I was losing text messages also, but I solved that by preventing the messaging apk from being closed. It's a simple setting in Cyanogenmod, but I believe that is what Riro Zizo is talking about when they say Bulletproof an app.

kierren said:
Just curious, what do you need Sense for?
I was losing text messages also, but I solved that by preventing the messaging apk from being closed. It's a simple setting in Cyanogenmod, but I believe that is what Riro Zizo is talking about when they say Bulletproof an app.
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bulletproofing apps means preventing it from getting killed... you were right
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Blackout incredible has Sense 3.6 And when I apply the v6Supercharger it works pretty fine. But remember that you need to Format your SD card before you install it. It gives you extra performance. atleast it happened to me.

I fully understand why you might want a SENSE rom.
I have tried many roms since my DZ is out of warranty, the Mimicry one was nearly the best, except it had bad performances after some weeks of usage.
And this AOSP was a android 4 rom with nice custom features, but there was a LOT i missed from SENSE. Let's just talk about the weather/clock widget, the audio player, the FM radio app, the nice interface, the perfect virtual keyboard...
Sense really offers the best user experience on that phone.
A few days ago I finally the perfect rom, you should try it: TrickDroid 4.0.0
As told in the corresponding topic on xda, you just absolutely need to enable swap because it's a full Sense 4.
And if you want some specific tweaks from AOSP, of you want to remove some things from Sense, the TrickDroid Tweaks allows you to simply do that.
TrickDroid on xda: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1981059

[Q] Which ROM for battery and no lag

Hi,
I have bought a second hand HTC desire and i would like to install a ROM.
After reading this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1293989&page=16
And this list of roms
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=809328
and 4-5 roms specs i am not sure which ROM to use.
I would like something that ensure estability, no lag, no FC and the best battery life.
I do not really care if it is pretty or not.
I have been reading also that increase the internal memory with the SD card is important, but i am not sure how much.
Which one do you recommend?
Thank you for your help.

My advice to you, is to flash a few ROMs and see which you personally like. Generally speaking, you can see from the amount of posts & page views a thread has as to how popular the ROM is, and obviously a popular ROM is popular for a reason.
There are a lot of different ROMs, AOSP, Sense 3.0, Sense 3.5 and now even ICS ROMs. Decide which you like the look of best and give them a trail run. There are no best and worst ROMs, some seem to work fine on one device and can be troublesome on another, it's the nature of the beast. Flash a few and see which is most comfortable for you.
I have been a user of MIUI-XJ for quite some time now. One gig is usually the recommended partition size for an SD card for any ROM, be it AOSP or Sense. I've used MIUI on a daily basis for a good 8 months or more now and it suits me down to the ground.

You are right, the problem is that the Desire is not mine, it is my girlfriend´s.
So, i need to choose one and pray that she likes it.
I think i am going to Revolution 3.0. Looks like is something will do what i need.
Another thing, i have seen that there is Data++ and A2SD+
Which one is better?
I have an 8Gb SD card, but it is class 2. Not sure if i will need a better one.
Thanks for your help

I use data ++, it will just dump all apps onto an EXT Partition you'll never need to worry about space, or moving apps etc.
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As for the card, I use a class six 8gb, class two might not be ideal, but then again, my wife can't tell the difference between a class two and a class ten, so it might not matter so much!
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Well, the card will be this one, thats for sure.
Now to find one ROM and to choose between Data++ and A2SD+.
Thanks!

Happy flashing. ^^
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IMHO the best ROM for Desire is Revolution 3.0. Read my signature for more details...

sudkcoce said:
IMHO the best ROM for Desire is Revolution 3.0. Read my signature for more details...
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Thanks. I will try that one.
Data++ or A2SD+?

I am just looooving the new Aurora, version 5. It's a biiit laggy sometimes, but it is a gooood ROM overall.
I used LeeDroid before, hated it every minute of my life.

hi, i tried the three rom "classic", cyanogen, miui and sense.... for lag cyanogen is the best, but for battery life i prefer miui for sense i test this rom http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1315961 in this moment XD

Please use the Q&A Forum for questions Thanks
Moving to Q&A

Sorry, i didn´t know there was a forum for that.
Thanks for moving it.

Oxygen rom by adamG.

yep, oxygen is best for stability, battery and everything just works. It looks simple but a 3rd party launcher can soon sort that out. A2sd is built in and you can download a dalvik cache to SD zip to flash to gain more internal space.
With this zip flashed and cm7r2 hboot i have around 25 apps installed and around 250mb free space. You'll need an ext3 or ext4 partition on your SD card before flashing.
Miui is nice but you'll get lags after a few weeks that piss you off. Oxygen all the way.
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I can highly recommend rootSU's dGB with ManU-Kernel (1.4). Never had better smoothness and battery life.
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I'm using latest CM7 nightly 262 version over one month and it stable as it is original ROM. Lag can happen but it's only when some other app is causing the problem. Sometimes some apps just don't die and chew up CPU and that's when lag can happen. So I recommend "OS monitor" app that monitor your phone and evil apps. It's like "top" program on linux/unix. So if there's no evil apps there is no lag. For battery to go far as it could, you should *always* have mobile data switched off. If I don't use mobile data, just calls and some music. It can run for 48 hours without recharge.

+1 Oxygen rom. or if you want a bit of colour for it Mildwild.

Quite liking Alex v's mod of the pvteam runnydroid Rom. Nice battery life for a sense 3.5 Rom and fast (very) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1427706

try MildWild....it's plain simple but the speed rocks.
no need to flash any other stuffs aside from the ROM itself....unless of course you would want further customization...
Do not forget to partition your SD up to Ext4....I'm not sure if there's be an issue with a Class2 SD but if ever, just buy at least Class 4 or 6.

best rom for most phone storage on evo 4g

I have been on synergy RC1 for more than a year. I am sick of not having enough space to install apps on my phone. I am hoping to find a rom that doesn't take up so much of the available space on the evo 4g. I like sense but not married to it. I thought there was more ICS roms out there But I guess not. Any suggestions?

MikG is a very similar rom to Synergy, yet uses a lot less space. Try it out.

I saw that rom and was thinking on it thanks for the suggestion

You can also run with NITROUS Rom which so far is living up to the heights, very stable and reliable Rom

aosp roms are very light in size. a2sd also helps to move the bulk of your apps to a partitioned sd.

Trunks1030 said:
I have been on synergy RC1 for more than a year. I am sick of not having enough space to install apps on my phone. I am hoping to find a rom that doesn't take up so much of the available space on the evo 4g. I like sense but not married to it. I thought there was more ICS roms out there But I guess not. Any suggestions?
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if your not ties to sense try CIUI... i just switched to it from ENERGY 3.5 sense rom. I loved energy, but wanted to experiment. CIUI is a mix between CM and MIUI... it will neeed some mods to make it better... i use Go launcher for the launcher/app drawer. it is a very light rom and doesnt use much space. If you are that worried about storage space for apps, why not partition your sd card, flash dark tremors a2sd? this will install all the apps to an ext partition upon download form the market. you can also download terminal and enter the following commands:
su[ENTER]
a2sd reinstall[ENTER]
cachesd[ENTER]
this will move all your apps already installed and your cache to the sd card. here are the links.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1158993&highlight=partition+sd+card
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=715938

i'd say decks gingerbread is one of the smallest roms around...if u want space thats what i would recommend if you want sense and space moving dalvik to cache opens it up pretty well

Uhm... Synergy hasn't been out for a year... Just saying haha. On another note. Decks 1.3d is amazing or if your tied to sense I would try tommytomatoe's classic v0.0.6 (my absolute go to rom) or mikg your call
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