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[Q] HTC Sense or Cyanogen?

Ok, I want to give the Cyanogen ROM a go, but I want to know which is better with your opinions, and since I'm on a Sense ROM at the moment, if I did a nand backup, wiped etc, flashed Cyanogen and found it difficult to get used to, would I be able to go back with just a nand restore?
Thank You
Tazur Rahman

sHaHiN786 said:
Ok, I want to give the Cyanogen ROM a go, but I want to know which is better with your opinions, and since I'm on a Sense ROM at the moment, if I did a nand backup, wiped etc, flashed Cyanogen and found it difficult to get used to, would I be able to go back with just a nand restore?
Thank You
Tazur Rahman
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I went cyanogen rc2-thyrus theme,launcher pro.It blows sense to ****.
More ram spare ,overclock,smoother and i can take the piss out of the misses as she's on sense.Personally i am 100% happy i flashed.
yep you just flash a backup using clockworkmod and you are back to normal.
Only problem i have found is should i use adw launcher or launcher pro ,they both have there ups and downs.
Make sure you install the google apps when you flash cyanogen.

ciderz said:
I went cyanogen rc2-thyrus theme,launcher pro.It blows sense to ****.
More ram spare ,overclock,smoother and i can take the piss out of the misses as she's on sense.Personally i am 100% happy i flashed.
yep you just flash a backup using clockworkmod and you are back to normal.
Only problem i have found is should i use adw launcher or launcher pro ,they both have there ups and downs.
Make sure you install the google apps when you flash cyanogen.
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Does this completely void the warranty though? Just read it on the Cyanogen thread.
Regards.
Thanks added.

In theory you've already voided your warranty by flashing s-off bootloader
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ciderz said:
I went cyanogen rc2-thyrus theme,launcher pro.It blows sense to ****.
More ram spare ,overclock,smoother and i can take the piss out of the misses as she's on sense.Personally i am 100% happy i flashed.
yep you just flash a backup using clockworkmod and you are back to normal.
Only problem i have found is should i use adw launcher or launcher pro ,they both have there ups and downs.
Make sure you install the google apps when you flash cyanogen.
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nice screens, what clock is that?

rosswaa said:
nice screens, what clock is that?
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It's called SiMiclock.

nickhammond121 said:
In theory you've already voided your warranty by flashing s-off bootloader
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Cheers. Foolish me.

ciderz said:
I went cyanogen rc2-thyrus theme,launcher pro.It blows sense to ****.
More ram spare ,overclock,smoother and i can take the piss out of the misses as she's on sense.Personally i am 100% happy i flashed.
yep you just flash a backup using clockworkmod and you are back to normal.
Only problem i have found is should i use adw launcher or launcher pro ,they both have there ups and downs.
Make sure you install the google apps when you flash cyanogen.
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Wahey!! I'm now on Cyanogen, so bloody awesome!! I'm loving it, the fact that you could tewa the equalizer means bye bye to Dolby, I prefer using my personal tweak, everything is amazing, so far battery's running right, I hope it stays this way, thanks for your recommendation, where did you get your theme? I'm currently on the Lucid theme.
Thanks

Hi guys, I'm currently on a Sense based ROM but very interested in trying Cyanogen, the only thing holding me back is HTC Sense. I sync all my SMS with HTC Sense so that when I change between ROMs I won't lose my SMSes. Can you still use/sync to HTC Sense in Cyanogen? Thanks!

sHaHiN786 said:
Wahey!! I'm now on Cyanogen, so bloody awesome!! I'm loving it, the fact that you could tewa the equalizer means bye bye to Dolby, I prefer using my personal tweak, everything is amazing, so far battery's running right, I hope it stays this way, thanks for your recommendation, where did you get your theme? I'm currently on the Lucid theme.
Thanks
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Glad you like cyanogen
Theme,icons and wallpapers are here,use 200dpi version.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=859548
using launcher pro and launcher pro icons ,off market.
splash screen and how to apply them are here,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=855490&page=58
Before you install the theme use root explorer and copy system/media/bootanimation.zip to your sd card .
install the theme then copy back bootanimation.zip.
bookmark home off the market.
enjoy.

SW7 said:
Hi guys, I'm currently on a Sense based ROM but very interested in trying Cyanogen, the only thing holding me back is HTC Sense. I sync all my SMS with HTC Sense so that when I change between ROMs I won't lose my SMSes. Can you still use/sync to HTC Sense in Cyanogen? Thanks!
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sync with google instead ,then you will have np no sense on cyanogen.

If I had to go back to sense Id sell my phone..
I love my DHD now...

is cyanogen best rom for now?

DarkVasyaK said:
is cyanogen best rom for now?
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Personaly, I like the Sparta rom more (vanilla android + some sense interfaces). But cyanogen is good to. Hell, everything is better then sense!

rixsta said:
If I had to go back to sense Id sell my phone..
I love my DHD now...
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Wow! Is it really that much better?? So what exactly do gain or lose with Cyanogen comparing to Sense? I know Cyanogen is a lot cleaner/lighter and therefore faster than Sense; and you get DSP Manager but lose Dolby Mobile and SRS; you'll have ADW/Launcher Pro and of course lose the Sense UI...what else??

SW7 said:
Wow! Is it really that much better?? So what exactly do gain or lose with Cyanogen comparing to Sense? I know Cyanogen is a lot cleaner/lighter and therefore faster than Sense; and you get DSP Manager but lose Dolby Mobile and SRS; you'll have ADW/Launcher Pro and of course lose the Sense UI...what else??
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Most of the differences are in the kernel and not really the build. All 3rd party softwares can be installed on both Cyanogen and Sense....

Leechoonhwee said:
Most of the differences are in the kernel and not really the build. All 3rd party softwares can be installed on both Cyanogen and Sense....
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I see. In that case, how does a custom Sense ROM + a custom kernel compare to a Cyanogen ROM with the same custom kernel? I guess the later would be quicker due to it's lighter?

SW7 said:
I see. In that case, how does a custom Sense ROM + a custom kernel compare to a Cyanogen ROM with the same custom kernel? I guess the later would be quicker due to it's lighter?
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Yes, I'd like to understand the differences as well.
Apart form some enthusiastic but not very informative "CM blows Sense to sh1t!" statements, I haven't seen any clear explanation of what the benefits of CM are? If it is simply the removal of Sense then that is a subjective improvement. Coming from a Magic (on CM) I know that many people over there spent their efforts getting Sense to work on that handset. Personally, I like Sense, it is clean and has a number of useful or flashy widgets and with the hardware of the DHD it is smooth and fast. I've rooted my DHD to Leedroid (mainly because I can't stop tinkering) but I'm holding from CM much as i liked it on the Magic because I just can't see the advantages..
Maybe someone could explain them for the more nooby amongst us?
Can you have more/less screens?
Can you organise you apps? Hide them?
Landscape home?
A list would be nice.

Personally, I like HTC Sense because it's clean and has uniformity as a UI. But if I have time spend 80% of my phone/device just customizing the UI again and again rather than using it then I would go for Cyanogen.

derkie said:
Personally, I like HTC Sense because it's clean and has uniformity as a UI. But if I have time spend 80% of my phone/device just customizing the UI again and again rather than using it then I would go for Cyanogen.
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Yep. Just tried CM6 and whilst there is nothing wrong with it all, and it is possibly faster than stock, I just can't be ar$ed with tweaking all the settings to get the phone to have a bit of uniformity in its looks and operation.
Sense might be a bit bloated, but you don't need to use it and on the DHD it runs fine.
I think it is more of a aesthetic thing than anything else.

Which is Rom better for daily use?

Hi guys, new to the desire community.
Which Rom is better for daily use?
-supernova gb sense Rom
-leedroid hd 3.3.3
-leedroid v2.5
-leedroid v3.0.8.2
Thanks guys! Been thinking which is good.
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Which ROM do you like the most? Which one of them to you works the best? Ask yourself a few questions, and when a specific ROM always comes up first you'll find your answer.

Currently using leedroid hd v3.3.3. But the internal memory seems to go down fast with a2sd++.
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You're gonna get a million different answers because everyone has their own opinion. The only way to find out is to check them out yourself
Swyped from my CM7.1 Desire using XDA Premium App

OK I have a more specific question: which ROM with Sense 2.1 or later and MORE space in internal memory than stock Gingerbread is better for daily use? (apart from Gingerburst with Data2SD because it seems my class 10 SD card doesn't like it ( )

Makinen11 said:
OK I have a more specific question: which ROM with Sense 2.1 or later and MORE space in internal memory than stock Gingerbread is better for daily use? (apart from Gingerburst with Data2SD because it seems my class 10 SD card doesn't like it ( )
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Yes! More internal Memory is needed for desire.

Have you tried any AOSP ROMs yet? (One's without Sense)

Tried those but I prefer ROMS with
sense.
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Did you try supernova?
TouchPal-d from my Desire running Starburst Classic Rom - 450 apps and counting. .

Droidzone said:
Did you try supernova?
TouchPal-d from my Desire running Starburst Classic Rom - 450 apps and counting. .
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Whts the diff between gingerburst and supernova?
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Makinen11 said:
OK I have a more specific question: which ROM with Sense 2.1 or later and MORE space in internal memory than stock Gingerbread is better for daily use?
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Thats the same question as the OP but adding an extra variable. See Timmaaa's response

I've found that pretty much any Sense GB ROM has glitches here and there, whether it be MMS not sending, camera flash timing, video playback stuttering etc etc etc.
About 4 days ago, I went back to Leedroid 2.5.0 and although it's only Android 2.2, it just works as it should.
The only thing that bothered me was that there are no toggles for wifi/Bluetooth etc in the notification bar, but there's a little mod to flash that enables that as well, so now it's spot on.
I'd recommend this for daily use.

wildcardspv said:
I've found that pretty much any Sense GB ROM has glitches here and there, whether it be MMS not sending, camera flash timing, video playback stuttering etc etc etc.
About 4 days ago, I went back to Leedroid 2.5.0 and although it's only Android 2.2, it just works as it should.
The only thing that bothered me was that there are no toggles for wifi/Bluetooth etc in the notification bar, but there's a little mod to flash that enables that as well, so now it's spot on.
I'd recommend this for daily use.
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That's because the "any Sense GB ROM" you referred to are all ports! Naturally, there will be bugs. Anything based on official HTC RUU-GB Roms like Supernova, Teppic, Alex-V; or Froyo Roms-StarBurst, old Leedroid shouldnt have issues.

Droidzone said:
That's because the "any Sense GB ROM" you referred to are all ports! Naturally, there will be bugs. Anything based on official HTC RUU-GB Roms like Supernova, Teppic, Alex-V; or Froyo Roms-StarBurst, old Leedroid shouldnt have issues.
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I hear you, and I'd expect glitches in ROMs ported from other devices, but even 2.3 ROMs based on the official update for the Desire from HTC (EG http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1210178) have issues in my experience.
It feels kinda wrong rolling back to 2.2, but it works well, so.........

wildcardspv said:
I hear you, and I'd expect glitches in ROMs ported from other devices, but even 2.3 ROMs based on the official update for the Desire from HTC (EG http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1210178) have issues in my experience.
It feels kinda wrong rolling back to 2.2, but it works well, so.........
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Well, that Rom says "I removed all things that you'll never use and added some other thing like torch. "
Self explanatory, eh?

Droidzone said:
Well, that Rom says "I removed all things that you'll never use and added some other thing like torch. "
Self explanatory, eh?
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Lol, I guess!
My main gripes are:
- Camera capturing images just as the flash is switching off, so pics come out too dark
- Audio and Video being out of sync on videos recorded with the camcorder, when the resolution is set to anything higher than 640x480
(I have a 3 yr old son, so the camera/videocamera gets used a lot!!)
So what about your ROM?
Can you confirm whether these issues are apparent in it?
I've been reading about it and it sounds great, but there's no point flashing it if these issues occur!!
Many thanks

Unfortunately, I've not really tested these details specifically on SuperNova (my work is mainly based on advanced system scripts), and cant test it at the moment, since...wait for it..I'm on my Froyo Rom, StarBurst If I test it out later, I'll update this thread with my results
The reason I switched back to Froyo was the superior network and wifi drivers, which will never be solved on GB Sense without source/a better Ruu..

if you want sense, you should try silky tobasco's
if not oxygen is the best..

tarikg said:
if you want sense, you should try silky tobasco's
if not oxygen is the best..
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tarikg = adamg?

Hmmm...
at the moment, GB AOSP ROMs are relatively more stable than the GB Sense ROMs (with Sense 1.9, 2.1, 3.0 and 3.5 or hybrid/2.1+3.0)
GB Sense ROMs are still not yet mature (my opinion) and as usual, maturity increases along with the developing time.
If you want really reliable ROMs, use Froyo Sense ROMs or any other AOSP or MIUI ROMs.
BTW:
I am now on GB Oxygen (http://forum.oxygen.im/)
and waiting for ICS
I really really hope the devs can come up with stable ICS for daily usage.

Just wondering

I was just wondering what's the best sense based Rom for speed and internal memory and battery length
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Wat about the cpu speed frequency?

oh it has to be able to be oc'd of course

wishmasterdjl said:
I was just wondering what's the best sense based Rom for speed and internal memory and battery length
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Not sure about 'best' because there are loads of good ones. If a ROM doesnt have OC ability, just download SETCPU from the market which allows for overclock.
Sometimes the kernal of the ROM limits OC ability, in this case, just replace the kernal with one that allows for OC.
If a ROM is unable to do something, you will probably be able to modify it so it can
There is the V6 supercharger script out at the moment, works like an internal memory killer so frees up loads of RAM. I'm using CM7 atm which has an inbuilt task-killer and this increases battery life 10 fold.
Look for a ROM with very few stock apps as these are what will slow you down.
Hope there is some info in there you can use. If anything is confusing, just ask

I tried RemPuzzle. Really good ROM. Fast. Tweak-able upto a certain extent. Decent battery life (18 - 20 hrs). But now im back to CM7. CM7 gives me a better battery life which is of prime importance to me.
If you want to try a sense-ROM then RemPuzzle should be your first option. Other sense-based ROMs ,afa i hv heard, have a bad battery life.
EDIT: And yeah OverClockable. Just like CM7.

im using rempuzzle atm but i need a way of freeing up more internal memory

wishmasterdjl said:
im using rempuzzle atm but i need a way of freeing up more internal memory
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Oh I did not read your signature.
Yeah that is one of the prob in that. Have you referred to this post by 3xeno?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1233340
I currently have 70+ MB free without moving any apps to SD!!
He has written not recommended for sense-based ROMS. But read the comments, there are people who have done it on sense-based ROMs.

Try splashMOD ROM
Just try splashmod ROM... For me, its the best among all the ROMs at present. Now im using Splashmod_v1.6.. it is very fast, can be overclocked.. and lots of feautures just like cm7.. but very much faster than CM7... Best for gaming...

yash_p90 said:
Oh I did not read your signature.
Yeah that is one of the prob in that. Have you referred to this post by 3xeno?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1233340
I currently have 70+ MB free without moving any apps to SD!!
He has written not recommended for sense-based ROMS. But read the comments, there are people who have done it on sense-based ROMs.
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Hi, can you post some details of your setup? What are the partition dimensions for you? Also, did you modify the RemPuzzle ZIP in anyway? Lastly, are you using the Lite or Full version?

balaedge said:
Just try splashmod ROM... For me, its the best among all the ROMs at present. Now im using Splashmod_v1.6.. it is very fast, can be overclocked.. and lots of feautures just like cm7.. but very much faster than CM7... Best for gaming...
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Splashmod has all the features of cm7 because it is cm7, its just been repackaged a few things taken away and a few things added like a new name.
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Scratch0805 said:
...A few things taken away and a few things added like a new name.
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Sounds amazing. I may have to try this.

3xeno said:
Hi, can you post some details of your setup? What are the partition dimensions for you? Also, did you modify the RemPuzzle ZIP in anyway? Lastly, are you using the Lite or Full version?
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Hey 3xeno. I did not try Custom MTD partition on RemPuzzle. I tried it on some nightly. I have set the partitions as 180 35. Currently im oon Nightly #256.

ICS & JB Speed vs Oxygen..

Hey all..
For those praising the latest ICS and JB roms for their speed, have you ever been on Oxygen 2.3.2 ? That is worth saying it's flying..
I thought the time had come to switch to android 4 on my desire.. But after dozens of tries of different releases, it never comes near the speed of my daily (modded) Oxygen rom..
Thought I would share this to see if I am doing something wrong or if there are people who share the same feeling..
Last.. I would like to clarify that I don't want to disrespect the developers of the roms like Sandvold, Elk759, Nikez,.. I appreciate their work very much, but I don't understand the reviews from others users, especially about speed..
Greetz

Since Oxygen development has been discontinued awhile ago, is there any reason not to use it? Is it still based on the latest aosp code from Google, or has there been some important security updates that are missing from Oxygen? I'm also back using Oxygen after trying ics a few times. There was always some problems. And CM 7.2 allways reboots if I have walking navigation on, and I turn the screen off for a while to save some battery... With Oxygen everything works very snappy.
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anzianzi said:
Since Oxygen development has been discontinued awhile ago, is there any reason not to use it? Is it still based on the latest aosp code from Google, or has there been some important security updates that are missing from Oxygen? I'm also back using Oxygen after trying ics a few times. There was always some problems. And CM 7.2 allways reboots if I have walking navigation on, and I turn the screen off for a while to save some battery... With Oxygen everything works very snappy.
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Oxygen development stopped a while ago indeed, there is an update by roalex that dates from april/2012
so thats pretty recent.. it also implements apps to sd-ext or data2sd in the framework, if you want it..
(i use the oxygenr2 hboot, gives me 330 mb.. more than enough)
Grtz

I really liked that Roalex version. Swype to clear notifications is alot smoother, ics animations are nice. But, standard apps to sd doesn't work properly. You can move apps to sd just fine, but you can't move them back. That's not a big problem but I just don't like roms that add something, and while doing that also break some standard functionality.
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I agree with the speed of Oxygen Rom and would prefer it over any rom but right now I'm too dependent on CM7's tweaks its hard for me to go back to Oxygen.
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What tweaks..?

Everything under CyanogenMod settings.

Lol.. Very informative..

Flash the rom if you haven't and you'll literally get lost with all the settings available on the rom. It sacrifices a bit of speed compared to Oxygen but still a lot faster than any other rom out there.

What CM rom do you recommend then.. There are so many..

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What CM rom do you recommend then.. There are so many..
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I used the latest nightly version and its very very good, flawless infact. I downloaded the rom, changed the launcher to latest holo launcher, added INT2EXT and done loads of work in UOT Kitchen and when the rom is installed uv got all the Cyanogenmod settings to play with. U wont be disapointed coz theres just so much u can do with it. Or.... u can just leave the rom as it is and its still great
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What CM rom do you recommend then.. There are so many..
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I use the latest nightlies as well. Try the last stable release. If you encounter some issues with the gps or mobile data/wifi on that version try the nightlies.
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I've tried the nightly build.. Not really my thing.. Gonna stick with the oxygen /roalex..
Thnx for the he recommends though..
Greetz

Try mildwild based on cm
Ics themed and heavy tweaked

Using Oxygen 2.3.2 with personal customizations for a long time.
Can't be more satisfied with its stable and snappy speed.
Since I am using Oxygen_R2 hboot for maximum data size, so CM7 is never an option for me.
If I am going to ICS/JB, I would rather change to a new device.

h3110 said:
If I am going to ICS/JB, I would rather change to a new device.
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Couldnt agree more
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you can try nike's phone or mildwild those are base on oxygen and roalex source and used ics theme.

Try CronMod

Any reason to go JB or ICS?

Hello,
I am a long time CM7 user. Since there is no official CM9 or CM10 comming out for the Desire, I was wondering whether there is any real reason to dive into ICS or JB waters.
From what I could find, ICS should have USB host in the kernel and JB a faster UI. Now how does this translate to our device? Is there a real performance benefit or are these roms coming out just for sake of having the latest android?
note: I am running everything from SD with S2E on CM7 as there is not nearly enough internal memory in the Desire for me, so performance penalty here on GB as well...

jarda-wien said:
these roms coming out just for sake of having the latest android
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Answer in your question, since there is no chance for Desire to get full HWA/vsync (project butter) i see no reasons to use it. (not to mention there are still loads of issues like camcorder etc.)
Actual hwa/vsync in desire rom's is not a real deal, it's just a half working hacks.

Yeah, well... The only reason why I'm looking forward for ics and jb is sense 4 Other than that, I guess that gb is the best for our device.

Nikez JB rom has most everything working and the nightlys have the camera issues fixed. I went from CM7 to Nikez JB ROM just to see if it was worth it and its so much better than cm7 i cant go back.
Make a nandroid of your cm7 install and try it out at worst you are out an hour of time.
Look for Evervolv-turba-3.1.0-bravo-nightly-DATEXXXX.zip at http://dl.evervolv.com/nightly if you want the camera fixes.

syowr said:
Nikez JB rom has most everything working and the nightlys have the camera issues fixed. I went from CM7 to Nikez JB ROM just to see if it was worth it and its so much better than cm7 i cant go back.
Make a nandroid of your cm7 install and try it out at worst you are out an hour of time.
Look for Evervolv-turba-3.1.0-bravo-nightly-DATEXXXX.zip at http://dl.evervolv.com/nightly if you want the camera fixes.
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Camera has been fixed about a month back or more (though preview with stock camera is still glitched), we are talking about camcorder.
Also can you specify what exactly is better than CM7?
For example, CM7 gives you about twice more free RAM on boot than ICS/JB. (and ICS/JB is supposed to be multitasking, go figure lol)
So yeah, go record some video using this ROM and upload it to YT, i will have good laugh.

Hi,
try the AOKP its very good its another feeling :cyclops:

k3lcior said:
Camera has been fixed about a month back or more (though preview with stock camera is still glitched), we are talking about camcorder.
Also can you specify what exactly is better than CM7?
For example, CM7 gives you about twice more free RAM on boot than ICS/JB. (and ICS/JB is supposed to be multitasking, go figure lol)
So yeah, go record some video using this ROM and upload it to YT, i will have good laugh.
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No kelcior you are wrong. Woh built legacy camera and so Evervolv. Now in last nightlies camera works without glitches but camcorder doesn't...
just to report correct informations.
I agree: do a nandroid and try it out. I did the same weeks ago and I'll do for the next a1 from Nikez
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What about smoothness of operation and free ram? Do those new roms work slower/eat up more memory?

[k3lcior;34069023]Camera has been fixed about a month back or more (though preview with stock camera is still glitched), we are talking about camcorder.
So yeah, go record some video using this ROM and upload it to YT, i will have good laugh.[/QUOTE]
Actually the camera fixes as mentioned above are in the nightlies. Only you, not us, were talking about the camcorder and for no reason you decided to be a **** about too... classy.
@Impactor: The ROM runs remarkably well. Very smooth and fast. Really though don't take my word, or kelciors, on it just make a nandroid and give it a whirl if you don't like it then it's a piece of cake to restore back.

impactor said:
What about smoothness of operation and free ram? Do those new roms work slower/eat up more memory?
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ICS/JB eats about twice more RAM than GB ROM's just on boot.

I don't know what do you mean by "just on boot". Does it mean after boot it drops to GB level?

impactor said:
I don't know what do you mean by "just on boot". Does it mean after boot it drops to GB level?
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Of course not. Engage brain.
He means just from the phone booting up it uses more RAM than GB. Not including apps you launch
To be fair to jellybean if it was coded properly for the desire it would be considerably faster than gingerbread.
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It would be more beneficial if people engaged their brains to word their thoughts less ambiguous.
Anyway, thanks for clarification. I guess I will have to see for myself if it's worth doing.

impactor said:
It would be more beneficial if people engaged their brains to word their thoughts less ambiguous.
Anyway, thanks for clarification. I guess I will have to see for myself if it's worth doing.
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Sorry I kind of agree (even though I don't see the other interpretation.)
As for the jellybean ROMs no offense to the devs but they were always going to be hacked together ports. If Google brought jellybean to the nexus one it would be nothing like the ports (performance wise)
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Have you tried Evervolv rom? I heard many good thing about it's performance on Desire.

impactor said:
Have you tried Evervolv rom? I heard many good thing about it's performance on Desire.
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Its the best 4.0+ ROM for desire but I still don't think its quite as fast as some 2.3 roms
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Reasons for Android 4.0:
http://www.android.com/about/ice-cream-sandwich/
http://www.android.com/whatsnew/
But I guess you know about the new features, so why you're asking?
About RAM: You obviously aren't into Linux/Android that much, but used RAM actually isn't a bad thing.
k3lcior said:
Answer in your question, since there is no chance for Desire to get full HWA/vsync (project butter) i see no reasons to use it. (not to mention there are still loads of issues like camcorder etc.)
Actual hwa/vsync in desire rom's is not a real deal, it's just a half working hacks.
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Could you define "loads of issues"? I only see camcorder, sometimes 3g drops.
boleguc said:
Yeah, well... The only reason why I'm looking forward for ics and jb is sense 4 Other than that, I guess that gb is the best for our device.
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Really? Sense will always be a big discussion, but 4 is still bloated. It doesn't have additional features and the UI mostly can be themed.
syowr said:
Nikez JB rom has most everything working and the nightlys have the camera issues fixed. I went from CM7 to Nikez JB ROM just to see if it was worth it and its so much better than cm7 i cant go back.
Make a nandroid of your cm7 install and try it out at worst you are out an hour of time.
Look for Evervolv-turba-3.1.0-bravo-nightly-DATEXXXX.zip at http://dl.evervolv.com/nightly if you want the camera fixes.
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Thanks for trying and not just complaining
dethrat said:
Sorry I kind of agree (even though I don't see the other interpretation.)
As for the jellybean ROMs no offense to the devs but they were always going to be hacked together ports. If Google brought jellybean to the nexus one it would be nothing like the ports (performance wise)
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Actually, there are ports, yes, all Sense roms are ports, some JB Roms are ports, but some aren't.
And HTC is known for thee "hacks" you mention aswell. You shouldn't have bought a Desire if you don't like hacks.
impactor said:
Have you tried Evervolv rom? I heard many good thing about it's performance on Desire.
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The performance is good.

WoH said:
Could you define "loads of issues"? I only see camcorder, sometimes 3g drops.
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First one that comes to my mind, blinking/flashing Youtube videos. (issue exists for about half year already in ICS/JB)
Broken camcorder you mentioned (15 fps recording) wasn't fixed for about a year already (since first ICS builds)
Non working flash (and the JB compatibility doesn't matter, it has been confirmed working on other devices with workaround), dont want to go into details it just doesnt work in Desire JB ROM's.
Want more? JB/ICS is much larger in size, which means YOU HAVE TO use ext partition for a2sd solution, while on GB ROM's internal memory can be enough with custom hboot. (just dont tell me there is no speed difference between internal / sd :laugh
And since Qualcomm/HTC will NEVER release libs/source for all the drivers, there will be never fully working HWA/Butter.
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About RAM: You obviously aren't into Linux/Android that much, but used RAM actually isn't a bad thing.
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Yeah, especially when you run out of RAM entire framework/launcher restarting, maybe not a bad thing but utterly annoying. (it never happens on GB ROM's.)
Just to show what's the difference, upon booting JB ROM you'll have about 150-160Mb free RAM, on GB (cm7, mildwild w/e) it's about 290-300Mb free RAM - go figure.
So yeah, i think i'm fine with Android/Linux knowledge.
WoH said:
The performance is good.
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Until you'll run out of RAM, which happens quite often @ JB.

WoH said:
all Sense roms are ports
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Dafuq?

k3lcior said:
Yeah, especially when you run out of RAM entire framework/launcher restarting, maybe not a bad thing but utterly annoying. (it never happens on GB ROM's.)
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Um.. yea it does...