Any reason to go JB or ICS? - Desire General

Hello,
I am a long time CM7 user. Since there is no official CM9 or CM10 comming out for the Desire, I was wondering whether there is any real reason to dive into ICS or JB waters.
From what I could find, ICS should have USB host in the kernel and JB a faster UI. Now how does this translate to our device? Is there a real performance benefit or are these roms coming out just for sake of having the latest android?
note: I am running everything from SD with S2E on CM7 as there is not nearly enough internal memory in the Desire for me, so performance penalty here on GB as well...

jarda-wien said:
these roms coming out just for sake of having the latest android
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Answer in your question, since there is no chance for Desire to get full HWA/vsync (project butter) i see no reasons to use it. (not to mention there are still loads of issues like camcorder etc.)
Actual hwa/vsync in desire rom's is not a real deal, it's just a half working hacks.

Yeah, well... The only reason why I'm looking forward for ics and jb is sense 4 Other than that, I guess that gb is the best for our device.

Nikez JB rom has most everything working and the nightlys have the camera issues fixed. I went from CM7 to Nikez JB ROM just to see if it was worth it and its so much better than cm7 i cant go back.
Make a nandroid of your cm7 install and try it out at worst you are out an hour of time.
Look for Evervolv-turba-3.1.0-bravo-nightly-DATEXXXX.zip at http://dl.evervolv.com/nightly if you want the camera fixes.

syowr said:
Nikez JB rom has most everything working and the nightlys have the camera issues fixed. I went from CM7 to Nikez JB ROM just to see if it was worth it and its so much better than cm7 i cant go back.
Make a nandroid of your cm7 install and try it out at worst you are out an hour of time.
Look for Evervolv-turba-3.1.0-bravo-nightly-DATEXXXX.zip at http://dl.evervolv.com/nightly if you want the camera fixes.
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Camera has been fixed about a month back or more (though preview with stock camera is still glitched), we are talking about camcorder.
Also can you specify what exactly is better than CM7?
For example, CM7 gives you about twice more free RAM on boot than ICS/JB. (and ICS/JB is supposed to be multitasking, go figure lol)
So yeah, go record some video using this ROM and upload it to YT, i will have good laugh.

Hi,
try the AOKP its very good its another feeling :cyclops:

k3lcior said:
Camera has been fixed about a month back or more (though preview with stock camera is still glitched), we are talking about camcorder.
Also can you specify what exactly is better than CM7?
For example, CM7 gives you about twice more free RAM on boot than ICS/JB. (and ICS/JB is supposed to be multitasking, go figure lol)
So yeah, go record some video using this ROM and upload it to YT, i will have good laugh.
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No kelcior you are wrong. Woh built legacy camera and so Evervolv. Now in last nightlies camera works without glitches but camcorder doesn't...
just to report correct informations.
I agree: do a nandroid and try it out. I did the same weeks ago and I'll do for the next a1 from Nikez
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What about smoothness of operation and free ram? Do those new roms work slower/eat up more memory?

[k3lcior;34069023]Camera has been fixed about a month back or more (though preview with stock camera is still glitched), we are talking about camcorder.
So yeah, go record some video using this ROM and upload it to YT, i will have good laugh.[/QUOTE]
Actually the camera fixes as mentioned above are in the nightlies. Only you, not us, were talking about the camcorder and for no reason you decided to be a **** about too... classy.
@Impactor: The ROM runs remarkably well. Very smooth and fast. Really though don't take my word, or kelciors, on it just make a nandroid and give it a whirl if you don't like it then it's a piece of cake to restore back.

impactor said:
What about smoothness of operation and free ram? Do those new roms work slower/eat up more memory?
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ICS/JB eats about twice more RAM than GB ROM's just on boot.

I don't know what do you mean by "just on boot". Does it mean after boot it drops to GB level?

impactor said:
I don't know what do you mean by "just on boot". Does it mean after boot it drops to GB level?
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Of course not. Engage brain.
He means just from the phone booting up it uses more RAM than GB. Not including apps you launch
To be fair to jellybean if it was coded properly for the desire it would be considerably faster than gingerbread.
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It would be more beneficial if people engaged their brains to word their thoughts less ambiguous.
Anyway, thanks for clarification. I guess I will have to see for myself if it's worth doing.

impactor said:
It would be more beneficial if people engaged their brains to word their thoughts less ambiguous.
Anyway, thanks for clarification. I guess I will have to see for myself if it's worth doing.
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Sorry I kind of agree (even though I don't see the other interpretation.)
As for the jellybean ROMs no offense to the devs but they were always going to be hacked together ports. If Google brought jellybean to the nexus one it would be nothing like the ports (performance wise)
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Have you tried Evervolv rom? I heard many good thing about it's performance on Desire.

impactor said:
Have you tried Evervolv rom? I heard many good thing about it's performance on Desire.
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Its the best 4.0+ ROM for desire but I still don't think its quite as fast as some 2.3 roms
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Reasons for Android 4.0:
http://www.android.com/about/ice-cream-sandwich/
http://www.android.com/whatsnew/
But I guess you know about the new features, so why you're asking?
About RAM: You obviously aren't into Linux/Android that much, but used RAM actually isn't a bad thing.
k3lcior said:
Answer in your question, since there is no chance for Desire to get full HWA/vsync (project butter) i see no reasons to use it. (not to mention there are still loads of issues like camcorder etc.)
Actual hwa/vsync in desire rom's is not a real deal, it's just a half working hacks.
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Could you define "loads of issues"? I only see camcorder, sometimes 3g drops.
boleguc said:
Yeah, well... The only reason why I'm looking forward for ics and jb is sense 4 Other than that, I guess that gb is the best for our device.
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Really? Sense will always be a big discussion, but 4 is still bloated. It doesn't have additional features and the UI mostly can be themed.
syowr said:
Nikez JB rom has most everything working and the nightlys have the camera issues fixed. I went from CM7 to Nikez JB ROM just to see if it was worth it and its so much better than cm7 i cant go back.
Make a nandroid of your cm7 install and try it out at worst you are out an hour of time.
Look for Evervolv-turba-3.1.0-bravo-nightly-DATEXXXX.zip at http://dl.evervolv.com/nightly if you want the camera fixes.
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Thanks for trying and not just complaining
dethrat said:
Sorry I kind of agree (even though I don't see the other interpretation.)
As for the jellybean ROMs no offense to the devs but they were always going to be hacked together ports. If Google brought jellybean to the nexus one it would be nothing like the ports (performance wise)
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Actually, there are ports, yes, all Sense roms are ports, some JB Roms are ports, but some aren't.
And HTC is known for thee "hacks" you mention aswell. You shouldn't have bought a Desire if you don't like hacks.
impactor said:
Have you tried Evervolv rom? I heard many good thing about it's performance on Desire.
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The performance is good.

WoH said:
Could you define "loads of issues"? I only see camcorder, sometimes 3g drops.
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First one that comes to my mind, blinking/flashing Youtube videos. (issue exists for about half year already in ICS/JB)
Broken camcorder you mentioned (15 fps recording) wasn't fixed for about a year already (since first ICS builds)
Non working flash (and the JB compatibility doesn't matter, it has been confirmed working on other devices with workaround), dont want to go into details it just doesnt work in Desire JB ROM's.
Want more? JB/ICS is much larger in size, which means YOU HAVE TO use ext partition for a2sd solution, while on GB ROM's internal memory can be enough with custom hboot. (just dont tell me there is no speed difference between internal / sd :laugh
And since Qualcomm/HTC will NEVER release libs/source for all the drivers, there will be never fully working HWA/Butter.
WoH said:
About RAM: You obviously aren't into Linux/Android that much, but used RAM actually isn't a bad thing.
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Yeah, especially when you run out of RAM entire framework/launcher restarting, maybe not a bad thing but utterly annoying. (it never happens on GB ROM's.)
Just to show what's the difference, upon booting JB ROM you'll have about 150-160Mb free RAM, on GB (cm7, mildwild w/e) it's about 290-300Mb free RAM - go figure.
So yeah, i think i'm fine with Android/Linux knowledge.
WoH said:
The performance is good.
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Until you'll run out of RAM, which happens quite often @ JB.

WoH said:
all Sense roms are ports
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Dafuq?

k3lcior said:
Yeah, especially when you run out of RAM entire framework/launcher restarting, maybe not a bad thing but utterly annoying. (it never happens on GB ROM's.)
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Um.. yea it does...

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[Q] Why No Love Anymore for Froyo?

I've said it before numerous times here, that I haven't had a very pleasurable experience with Gingerbread ROMs (i.e. those built off CM7 source). Every GB ROM I've tried has had their good and bad points, but many of those bad points span across them all since they're built off CM7. Not being able to play videos in portrait mode, Gmail not handling text properly in its margins, etc etc keeps me going back to ROMs built off Froyo. Specifically, I'm thoroughly enjoying Virtuous 1.0.1 (built on HTC Sense), as everything works perfectly in it.
Sadly, no one is making ROMs built off Froyo anymore. If you look back at any of the threads starting with [ROM], you'll notice there aren't many that don't have either "gingerbread" or "CM7" in their titles. ROMs that were built using Froyo have dead links or aren't supported by the developers anymore, so if you have questions or want to report an issue you can't. I wish I had the skills to develop my own ROMs for G2 owners, but I'm just not smart enough nor do I have free time to try learning how to do that. Are there any devs here who would consider building some Froyo ROMs? I know there are still some out there that we could use (Villision by TeamVillain, CM 6.1.1, etc), but they haven't been updated in quite some time.
Who here would prefer using Froyo over Gingerbread? I can't be the only one here who isn't totally sold on Gingerbread. Maybe once the source code is released so devs can build ROMs off it without using CM7 as a base, then I will really start to enjoy it.
/end_rant
You just might be the only one here looking for this, lol. Jk. Its the curse of moving forward with this tech. Noone wants to linger on old, they wanna be pushing into the future. Ive abandoned my froyo builds awhile ago. Deleted backups and everything. So sad.
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PyroMod is pretty stable AND it supports actual A2SD. GO Launcher is also better than ADW and the stock Launcher.
If you like Virtuous you might want to give the Desire S ROM a try, it's the best ROM I've used on this phone so far.
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PyroMod is pretty stable AND it supports actual A2SD. GO Launcher is also better than ADW and the stock Launcher.
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I think you're missing the point of this thread. I don't want Gingerbread ROMs built off CM7 source (with PyroMod it's built off CM7-Nightly-31). I'm looking for more ROMs or more development of ROMs built on Froyo. Granted, that could be a really good ROM, but it's still going to have the underlying issues I explained in my OP since this isn't built off pure Gingerbread code. Thanks for the suggestion, though.
There are a few us that still prefer froyo to gingerbread... with CM6.1.1 is there any room for improvement though? I doubt it... when CM goes stable (very soon) and with the release of an official GB for the G2/Desire Z... it won't be long before all of us switch to GB for good.
Freakytah said:
You just might be the only one here looking for this, lol. Jk. Its the curse of moving forward with this tech. Noone wants to linger on old, they wanna be pushing into the future. Ive abandoned my froyo builds awhile ago. Deleted backups and everything. So sad.
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Wow genius... tell us more, please! Enlighten us stone age morons, please!
sino8r said:
Wow genius... tell us more, please! Enlighten us stone age morons, please!
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Are you retarded dude? Why you talking ****? I saw nowhere in his post being disrespectful...pull your frontend thong out of your bruised snatch
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Spastic909 said:
Are you retarded dude? Why you talking ****? I saw nowhere in his post being disrespectful...pull your frontend thong out of your bruised snatch
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Who the **** are you to say anything? It was a joke just like his post... obviously you can't tell the difference between sarcasm and being a jerk off. Why don't you actually contribute something instead of criticizing posts which you don't even comprehend, douche drinker
sino8r said:
There are a few us that still prefer froyo to gingerbread... with CM6.1.1 is there any room for improvement though? I doubt it... when CM goes stable (very soon) and with the release of an official GB for the G2/Desire Z... it won't be long before all of us switch to GB for good.
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I also prefer froyo too.. and I think to make cm6 perfect is get that unknown number issue fixed. Why can't they add the same work around they did with cm7 for it? I wish I knew how to make roms, that'll be my first.. and I don't think the number issue is a sim card issue because why would they have made that workaround??
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noodles2224 said:
I also prefer froyo too.. and I think to make cm6 perfect is get that unknown number issue fixed. Why can't they add the same work around they did with cm7 for it? I wish I knew how to make roms, that'll be my first.. and I don't think the number issue is a sim card issue because why would they have made that workaround??
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That's so true... I forgot about that one. It's a pain to put the number in everytime you want to use the walkie talkie app or for looks on sms. I saw the name of the guy who supplied the fix for CM7 but am unsure of his user name on xda... if we could find that out, pm him, and add the fix ourselves to CM6.
Double post.
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The unknown phone number is the only bug in CM 6.1.1. Sure it's fine after you enter it, but you have to do that every time you reboot the phone. I would love to find a fix for that.
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I just want a stock gingerbread rom without the Cyanogen stuff.
A Nexus S out of the box!
Because it's old and Gingerbread has everything Froyo has and more? I'm not sure why this is even a question.
Tommebaas said:
I just want a stock gingerbread rom without the Cyanogen stuff.
A Nexus S out of the box!
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You might want to consider the "Stock Gingerbread".
I totally agree with you. Froyo Roms are more stable, has less problems and everything is working. I too enjoy the Virtuous Sense Rom. Everything works, I tried switching over to GB Sense, not so great with the bugs and other faults that I can't easily customize. its pretty saddening that Froyo Roms aren't being supported and updated. Virtuous Sense was one of the greatest Roms I used during my experience with the G2 and when I try some other Rom I always come back to it. Just really wish I knew how to make my own Rom. But as of now, when I just try to compile a APK with XML edits, I can't compile it into binary . If only a the Villian Rom Devs would reopen their Froyo Roms.....
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dustrho said:
Sadly, no one is making ROMs built off Froyo anymore.
Who here would prefer using Froyo over Gingerbread? I can't be the only one here who isn't totally sold on Gingerbread. Maybe once the source code is released so devs can build ROMs off it without using CM7 as a base, then I will really start to enjoy it.
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What I hate is all these roms with sense in them. I hate sense and al the sense roms i've tried have issues and never work completely. GingerV1.5 is the most stable rom I have experienced.
Ashaman_Kupo said:
What I hate is all these roms with sense in them. I hate sense and al the sense roms i've tried have issues and never work completely. GingerV1.5 is the most stable rom I have experienced.
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GingerVillain is a good GB ROM as it was built off an earlier version of CM7 (before CM7-RC2 was released). Are you having issues with Sense based on Froyo, Gingerbread or both? There are issues with the GB versions of Sense, but the Froyo ones (i.e. Virtuous) all work wonderfully with almost zero issues. I personally haven't experienced any problems with my phone running Virtuous, just the once-in-a-blue-moon unable to wake the phone with the trackpad.
I completely agree with the first paragraph of the OP. I swear, I could have written it myself.
The nerd in all of us wants the "latest and greatest", and that is fully understandable. But the fact of the matter is that GB has not been officially released yet for this hardware. All the custom GB ROMs are ports, and therefore buggy. I tried various CM7 builds for a while, at first I liked CM7. But eventually the minor bugs all got to me, and I'm on to Virtuous (but using ADW EX instead of the Sense launcher).
Aside from the bugs you mentioned, the camera button on CM7 is really laggy compared to Virtuous (or even the stock Desire Z ROM). And the GPS issue is a constant worry to me. I was able to fix it on RC1, RC2 was fine as-is. But the fact that some people have issues, others don't, and it seems to be radio related, has me thinking its a locational problem. And since I travel frequently for work, it has me less than confidant that I will have a working GPS when I really need it.
Also, there is really not a whole lot different in GB aside from some more consistent theming and a better keyboard. Sense already polishes a lot of the ugly theming in Froyo, and I use Swype anyway, so those GB benefits pretty much are moot for me. I'm sure there are performance enhancements and other small fixes in GB as well, but the performance difference seems to be negligible to me.
This is obviously a matter of personal taste. But I don't think the OP is anywhere near alone, judging from the still decent traffic on the Virtuous thread.
Tommebaas said:
I just want a stock gingerbread rom without the Cyanogen stuff.
A Nexus S out of the box!
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I'm sure that eventually there will be an official 2.3 release from HTC/TMO, once that's been made root-friendly that should be more like what you want. I actually wouldn't be surprised if it were already ready to go but is being held back until HTC gets their Sense 2.3 updates ready.

[Q] CyanogenMod 7 or LeeDroid 3.03(when it releases)

I've been with CM7 from the start but don't know whether to stick with it now that leedroid has come up with his 3.0.X rom with Gingerbread.
I'd like your opinion of which would be better.
i.e. Pros and Cons.
Pros
:I like the look of stock GB, is there a theme for this on leedroid 3?
Fast, 1100 on average quad.
Very customize-able.e.g. performance, display, interface settings.
Cons:
low internal space, because of no A2SD++
idk anything alse.
So please convince me to go over to leedroid or stick with CM7
I'm on CM 7 and I like it.
There are some possibilities to get more space for apps. The easy one is to use GingerVillain as this ROM is based on CM 7 and has A2SD+ support. The other way is to s-off your phone and flash CM 7 hboot. The you will have over 300 MB for your apps on internal memory.
Regards,
vi.p
vi.p said:
I'm on CM 7 and I like it.
There are some possibilities to get more space for apps. The easy one is to use GingerVillain as this ROM is based on CM 7 and has A2SD+ support. The other way is to s-off your phone and flash CM 7 hboot. The you will have over 300 MB for your apps on internal memory.
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Where can i find CM7 Hboot!
Thx
CM7 has A2SD+. Look in Kali's thread for the rom. As for pros and cons, I've seen a lot of people with GV and they are having issues, a fair amount of issues. Currently, from my experience anyway, I've had no issues at all from CM7.
I have had CM7 for a while because I customer keep going back to it. I usually try a rom when it gets updated massively but I still end up going back to it.
Personally it is a stable rom, the most stable AOSP rom out there. I can't say anything about GV. I tried it once and I didn't like what they did to it bit this was last year.
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johno168 said:
Where can i find CM7 Hboot!
Thx
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Wait never mind, found it. thx
Meaple said:
CM7 has A2SD+. Look in Kali's thread for the rom. As for pros and cons, I've seen a lot of people with GV and they are having issues, a fair amount of issues. Currently, from my experience anyway, I've had no issues at all from CM7.
I have had CM7 for a while because I customer keep going back to it. I usually try a rom when it gets updated massively but I still end up going back to it.
Personally it is a stable rom, the most stable AOSP rom out there. I can't say anything about GV. I tried it once and I didn't like what they did to it bit this was last year.
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I agree CM7 is an awesome and very stable ROM, but since using it for a while, i feel like it is a bit too stock, so imight try out leedroid, but hate the hassle of restoring apps and settings.
I used GV before switching to CM 7 and personally I had no issues with it.
@johno168: From the "look & feel" point of view its really stock, but if you get used to the cm extensions (like quiet hours, different lockscreens, ...) you won't want to live without it imho.
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I used GV before switching to CM 7 and personally I had no issues with it.
@johno168: From the "look & feel" point of view its really stock, but if you get used to the cm extensions (like quiet hours, different lockscreens, ...) you won't want to live without it imho.
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Yeah, thats why i love CM so much it's esaily customizable and so stable at the same time. Maybe i'll stick to CM, but do you know of any "sense themes" like the whole sense look and stuff but on CM? or Maybe even a gingerbread theme for leedroid/sense?
thx for the help!
I'm afraid you won't get the whole sense look with all widgets
Launcher Pro PLUS has some similar widgets for Friends, Facebook, Twitter, Contacts and even GMail. I use Pure Messenger too which can be skinned sense like.
vi.p said:
I'm afraid you won't get the whole sense look with all widgets
Launcher Pro PLUS has some similar widgets for Friends, Facebook, Twitter, Contacts and even GMail. I use Pure Messenger too which can be skinned sense like.
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Oh yes can you also tell me if Darktremor works on cm7, i find having really low internal is annoying
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Oh yes can you also tell me if Darktremor works on cm7, i find having really low internal is annoying
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i have sd-ext and S2E app from market......have 88 apps and stil 138MB free internal space
emmmmm I'm on CM7
try it
rawdealer said:
i have sd-ext and S2E app from market......have 88 apps and stil 138MB free internal space
emmmmm I'm on CM7
try it
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I have it Atm but it seems like its not working still only have 44mb after i moved it.
johno168 said:
I have it Atm but it seems like its not working still only have 44mb after i moved it.
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try with S2E...it's working for me
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try with S2E...it's working for me
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I meant with s2e
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In Kali-'s CM7 Thread there is a link for instructions how to setup "Legacy App2SD" Perhaps this will work. Haven't tried it...
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I meant with s2e
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aha ok, in cyanogenmod settings---application---check allow app moving and in install location check internal and then try it if you allready have so, I can't help anymore

So any roms fully functional?

So my upgrade is coming up on November 1st, and I will be looking into getting a new phone in the near future, and I am finally done waiting for this ICS update that isn't coming from HTC. I was wondering if there are any fully functioning roms for the Incredible 2, or if anyone can tell me the one that is closest to fully working. Of course looking for something ICS or above and appreciate any suggestions on where I should begin...
kalojado said:
So my upgrade is coming up on November 1st, and I will be looking into getting a new phone in the near future, and I am finally done waiting for this ICS update that isn't coming from HTC. I was wondering if there are any fully functioning roms for the Incredible 2, or if anyone can tell me the one that is closest to fully working. Of course looking for something ICS or above and appreciate any suggestions on where I should begin...
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I have not tried Psycho's CM9 Global yet, but I hear it is pretty much fully functional except for the FFC is upside down or something...I have tried their CM10 Global and it is a smooth running rom, just a couple of little bugs they are working out. Mimicry CM9 based rom is almost fully functional...only thing not working that I know for sure is the FFC. Those are the only roms I have tried recently. I have also read that the Viper Sense rom is pretty good too, but it is Sense 4. I prefer the Paranoid Android, but there are some camera issues with it and a couple of other small bugs that don't affect me that much so I never notice them. Other than that I am out of suggestions, I have not tried UKB, MIUI, or any of the other roms that I hear are great roms.
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I have not tried Psycho's CM9 Global yet, but I hear it is pretty much fully functional except for the FFC is upside down or something...I have tried their CM10 Global and it is a smooth running rom, just a couple of little bugs they are working out. Mimicry CM9 based rom is almost fully functional...only thing not working that I know for sure is the FFC. Those are the only roms I have tried recently. I have also read that the Viper Sense rom is pretty good too, but it is Sense 4. I prefer the Paranoid Android, but there are some camera issues with it and a couple of other small bugs that don't affect me that much so I never notice them. Other than that I am out of suggestions, I have not tried UKB, MIUI, or any of the other roms that I hear are great roms.
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I started with aeroevan's CM9 ROM and it was terribly slow and pretty buggy. I had to reboot it at least once a day. I'm now running Psycho's CM10 Global and it's actually been really great, aside from the nonfunctional FFC, graphic tearing with Chrome, and unstable Bluetooth. Also, the CM10 Global ROM has an issue where after locking the phone it will take 1-2 seconds before allowing you to unlock again.
Why does everyone keep posting questions in general :cries:
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Why does everyone keep posting questions in general :cries:
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Sorry, this is the only thread I ever check, so I didn't even think about it. Is there a way for me to move it? If not I guess I can just delete it...
IC Tazz has been flawless for me. I tried CM9 and CM10 for a few weeks, they work pretty good but are not 100%.
I'm using the new viper Rom. In the past I've always preferred sense tho. Viper is nice. But I prefer my own non sense widgets. So my phone basically looks the same as it did when running cm10. So I'm not sure what the point of staying on viper. Must say battery life is impressive, especially for a sense Rom. Battery life was one reason why I hated sense. But then my phone doesn't really look like sense anyways since I'm using all the same widgets as I did w aosp. *confused*
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kalojado said:
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Sorry, this is the only thread I ever check, so I didn't even think about it. Is there a way for me to move it? If not I guess I can just delete it...
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No problem man... Just I have minor ocd and it really bugs me... Lol
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nitsua98 said:
No problem man... Just I have minor ocd and it really bugs me... Lol
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Haha, I can understand that. I've only been around this one for the past few months. Seriously, thanks for the reminder. I won't forget next time haha
for an ics rom, i gotta say viper sense is the most bug-free. both the ffc camera and rear cameras work fine, and you can shoot fine in 720p HD recording, a problem with many other roms.
this was one of the main problems i had with most CM's and aosp roms was that the stock camera sucked. it didnt even compare to the sense camera and pictures looked they were taken with a basic phone. the viper sense camera was great, maybe even better than stock.
as for bugs, i think the only thing was that taking a picture while recording didnt work, i dont think its supposed to though cuz the inc2 isnt designed for it? also for some reason after a reboot it changed from cdma to gsm, and i think the only way to change that it running the aroma installer again.
I'm no expert or developer but there is quite a few Roms that I have found a pretty stable that could be used as a daily driver with no problem. If you're not rooted I recommend trying it and giving some Roms a test run and seeing what you like before ditching your inc2 its a whole new experience.
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Sadly nit had to pull the ViperINC ROM earlier today due to virtuous teams request... Regarding the use of m10 I think...
Was just about to download and finally move on from GB too...
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are you serious?! i wanted to download that as soon as i got near some reliable wifi. (there's none available where i live so i use wifi tethering)
Fully functional eh? Both dkstunna and Aerovans cm9 & 10 both run nicely. Just have to make some changes depending on your carrier but youll find the solutions by reading the threads. But don't forget most roms are like that woman in the red light district. She's pretty and fun and can do a lot but there is also something under that skirt that is fully functional.
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Currently Running: Mimicry 1.5 w/ vivow-tiamat-ics-031412 Kernel, JB_ADRENO_DRIVERS_V2.ZIP.
It's been a pretty solid experience for a few months now.
Condemned Sense's Stock Build Odexed.
Depends on your definition of "fully-functional." For me that means everything that the stock ROM has including FFC, rotating softkeys, 720P camcorder, wifi-tethering, etc. Most of the ROMS listed (excluding stock ROMS) so far have issues with at least one of these things. I don't consider a mentality of "living with minor bugs" consistent with "fully-functional."
Personally my list would include:
- any of the the "standard" Sense 2.1 Gingerbread ROMs like GingerSense, SkyRaider Zeus, etc. (they all use the official 2.65 kernel specifically built for GB)
- Arctic Ascension 2.02 (aka IC Tazz 3.6) - Sense 3.6 using the leaked Chinese v3.x OTA kernel - everything including the stuff I mentioned works on it. It even includes features not even the stock ROM has such as automatic 3G switching when sending and receiving MMS messages.
Try CM 7.2, it was the first rom i flashed. the battery life is extraordinary and it runs fast like hell! only problem is its a bit old fashioned.
I'm currently running ViperSense 1.1, but its just slightly slow because its using a stock kernel
Thanks everyone for taking the time to give me this information. I have been busy but plan to look into these very soon! Much appreciation!
Miui 1.12.9 with Aerovan's 0.7 CFS kernel.

[Q] Is it worth switching to CM10 and Jelly Bean on my Dinc

I'm running CM9 with no real problems. Is it worth switching to CM10 and Jelly Bean? Is there more problems with JB than ICS for the dinc and dose the video work on JB? I know it is more demanding on the cpu but is the preformance worse than ICS?
joeyz400 said:
I'm running CM9 with no real problems. Is it worth switching to CM10 and Jelly Bean? Is there more problems with JB than ICS for the dinc and dose the video work on JB? I know it is more demanding on the cpu but is the preformance worse than ICS?
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What defines video? I mean you can see what does and what doesn't work easily in the CM10 thread. It also doesn't take long to make a nandroid and test JB out. There's also other threads about it's performance and if it's the best, etc. CM10 is worth it to me and quite a few others.
TLDR: Flash it and see for yourself.
I've read so much information it just gets confusing. Sometimes it seems when I try to improve on something I wind up messing up my phone. Yeah i could record video in mov. format format but it's a hassle. Which version of cm10 are u running? I read that on some roms have a problem reading SD card.
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I've read so much information it just gets confusing. Sometimes it seems when I try to improve on something I wind up messing up my phone. Yeah i could record video in mov. format format but it's a hassle. Which version of cm10 are u running? I read that on some roms have a problem reading SD card.
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Honestly, just flash it and try it. If it doesn't work for you, you now know. The SD card problems were never in CM, but in Rom Manager, which has been fixed and isn't even included anymore in CM.
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Honestly, just flash it and try it. If it doesn't work for you, you now know. The SD card problems were never in CM, but in Rom Manager, which has been fixed and isn't even included anymore in CM.
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I agree just try it. For me there was no comparison between the performance of CM9 and CM10. CM10 was much better.
CM 10 seems better for me. Even when some of the function like video camera not works so well but still i prefer CM 10. And you better try yourself. since nandroid backup and TB was invented i never afraid for switching and testing roms
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I'm running CM9 with no real problems. Is it worth switching to CM10 and Jelly Bean? Is there more problems with JB than ICS for the dinc and dose the video work on JB? I know it is more demanding on the cpu but is the preformance worse than ICS?
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I was using CM9 for a while and decided to try out CM10(pons) last week and will stick with it going forward. Video recording isn't a big deal to me and YouTube does flicker a little but it's not that bad. Other than that it seems as responsive as, or more than, CM9(invisiblek) for how I use my phone.
Which CM9 build are you on?
joeyz400 said:
I'm running CM9 with no real problems. Is it worth switching to CM10 and Jelly Bean? Is there more problems with JB than ICS for the dinc and dose the video work on JB? I know it is more demanding on the cpu but is the preformance worse than ICS?
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Which CM9 are you using? (Since it was never officially released, and there are a few different dev builds out there from those as who were so kind to pick up the project and run with it, Which one have you (or anyone here) found has work the best?) (And, as always, a link plz)
I have to agree with just giving cm10 a try. Pons' builds are excellent. Google Now is also cool. Download goomanager and use twrp for the best experience.
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Make a nandroid and try it. Its really, really good. I have had almost no problems, it is super fast, and everything seems to work(except video recording). It also supports OTA updates which is cool but you will need TWRP recovery.
I just moved to cm10 yesterday and so far I really like it. I say give it a shot and see what you think.
I say go for it! I first went with the AOSP RC3, but it was very very laggy. I switched to Pon's CM10, and it is absolutely amazing. It is as smooth and fast as my HTC Evo 3D which has a dual-core processor and more than double the RAM!
I highly, highly recommend CM10!
I was very impressed when I switched to the CM10 builds from CM9, CM10 is much smoother in my opinion.
Yes! So worth it tinys cm10 is super stable and smooth
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My wife's Inc has been running great on Tiny's CM10's as well. Fast, stable, and she hasn't had problems in daily use.
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Give it a shot!
I have been running pons' cm10 builds for a few months and would definitely recommend giving them a shot! (tiny is building based on pons' work at the moment, since pons' computer died) The thread is very active and informative, you should give it a read.

[Q] Most stable ICS/JB Rom

I recently had to move back to my desire after my newer ICS orange san diego developed an overheating problem.
It currently has CyanogenMod7 on it but I would like to put a similarly stable and performant ICS or JB ROM on it.
It seems there are a number of ROMs still under pretty active development and I'm having a hard time in choosing between them.
I was wondering if anyone could recommend a stable ROM with reasonable performance that I could stick on the desire?
I do use the video camera from time to time so would preferably like a ROM where this was working to reasonable standard.
My phone is S-OFF, rooted, unlocked, 2GB sd-ext, CM7r2 HBOOT (will likely be swapping this back for stock HBOOT).
Thanks in advance for any replies!
These threads arent really allowed, but ill give you some info.
Go with JB over ICS. I dont think there are any ICS roms actively developed currently, and overall JB has better performance. I havent had video recording work in any JB rom (its not that important for me anyways), but i think a few ICS roms have it working.
You wont have the same stability and performance as GB, but there are still a few good options that i have used as daily drivers:
Paranoid Android 4.3 by WoH
ChromiumROM (CM10.1) by me
Evervolv by nikez
Thanks very much for the reply and apologies for posting a 'not allowed' thread. *slaps wrist*
I have already DLed Chromium so will give that a try first. It was failing to install but then I realised that's cos of my HBOOT so going to sort that first and then get Chromium installed.
Chromium_ said:
These threads arent really allowed, but ill give you some info.
Go with JB over ICS. I dont think there are any ICS roms actively developed currently, and overall JB has better performance. I havent had video recording work in any JB rom (its not that important for me anyways), but i think a few ICS roms have it working.
You wont have the same stability and performance as GB, but there are still a few good options that i have used as daily drivers:
Paranoid Android 4.3 by WoH
ChromiumROM (CM10.1) by me
Evervolv by nikez
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jhob101 said:
Thanks very much for the reply and apologies for posting a 'not allowed' thread. *slaps wrist*
I have already DLed Chromium so will give that a try first. It was failing to install but then I realised that's cos of my HBOOT so going to sort that first and then get Chromium installed.
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Yep, most jb roms need stock hboot to fit their large system sizes, however you can generally slim them down yourself to get them running on data++ hboot. I'll probably release a slimmed version of chromium ROM soon.
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I noticed that you released build 11 last night so I flashed that and all looks to be working really great so far. Very impressed with the ROM, appears to be stable from my limited testing. Had one issue where it got stuck on the widgets screen and wouldn't show homescreen but was fine after a restart and hasn't reoccurred since.
Another mod I made was to set the pixel density to 200 which works really well on the desire, can get a lot more on the screen.
Is the issue with the video camera pretty fundamental and unlikely to get resolved?
Still amazed that JB can run so well on such an old phone.
Thanks for the rom, sterling work!
jhob101 said:
I noticed that you released build 11 last night so I flashed that and all looks to be working really great so far. Very impressed with the ROM, appears to be stable from my limited testing. Had one issue where it got stuck on the widgets screen and wouldn't show homescreen but was fine after a restart and hasn't reoccurred since.
Another mod I made was to set the pixel density to 200 which works really well on the desire, can get a lot more on the screen.
Is the issue with the video camera pretty fundamental and unlikely to get resolved?
Still amazed that JB can run so well on such an old phone.
Thanks for the rom, sterling work!
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The camera problem is on all Desire JB ROMs.
the fastest rom which i ever used is SpazeDOG ICS but cameraRecording is not working
here you can fix overheating problem http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2277365
Using WOH's ParanoidAndroid 4.3.1 for some time now and i have to say its flying + loads of features !
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trey32 said:
the fastest rom which i ever used is SpazeDOG ICS but cameraRecording is not working
here you can fix overheating problem http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2277365
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It's my orange san diego that is overheating, although my desire has previously over-heated but that was fixed under warranty. I might try taking it apart and cleaning the contacts as that guide suggests though in the hope of getting it working again.
Been running chromium for a few days now and it's been very stable. Only issue I've had is the error 'google text to speech engine has stopped' keeping on popping up. It is a bit sluggish but I expected that really and I do have a lot of apps installed.
ParanoidAndroid 4.3 by WoH with no dude

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