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Is this the phone to get?

I currently have a Samsung Fascinate and planning to selling it because of lack of some features in Froyo and probably future updates in general.
Is this the phone to get as in terms of software development progress? (In verizon of course). Or is Droid 2 or X good as well? (not liking the X because it's too big).
I don't play games whatsoever on this phone. TBh, most important feature is just getting things done very quickly; Music, E-Mail, Browsing, GPS, SMS/MMS.
Thank you.

Nah, this isn't the phone to get. Verizon has a Powerhouse lineup coming out very soon including the thunderbolt and an LG smartphone ( and the iPhone, being announced tomorrow ).
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Of course I'm a little bias but yes, I think as of now this is the phone to have. The development community rocks, and it is a very quick phone. Now there are some awesome phones on the horizon; the HTC Thunderbolt, and the Moto Droid Bionic. But considering you can get a DInc at Best Buy for free (with a new contract or available upgrade of course) it is a sweet deal. As far as what's currently out I haven't checked the Droid 2 forums but I did check out the X just to see how it was coming, and it's nothing compared to what we have over here. Just my 2 cents, take it for what it's worth.

hkseo100 said:
Is this the phone to get as in terms of software development progress? (In verizon of course). Or is Droid 2 or X good as well? (not liking the X because it's too big).
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You said "(In verizon of course)." Are you thinking of running the stock ROM? Or plan to root and run some of the great ROMs the devs here put out?
Since you said 'Verizon', makes me think you're planning to run stock. If so, beware that even the Thunderbolt is shipping with Froyo. My guess is we won't see Gingerbread (officially) until spring or summer.
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thank you everyone for your reply!
I meant Verizon as in, I am restricted to phones that Verizon carries. I don't really stay stock, if I do, I'd at least have a ULV Kernel.
If I sell this now, I'll need to use a dumb phone until whatever phone I need comes out. I wonder if I can order the iPhone tomorrow on the website... kind of tempting.
Anyway, thanks everyone!

hkseo100 said:
thank you everyone for your reply!
I meant Verizon as in, I am restricted to phones that Verizon carries. I don't really stay stock, if I do, I'd at least have a ULV Kernel.
If I sell this now, I'll need to use a dumb phone until whatever phone I need comes out. I wonder if I can order the iPhone tomorrow on the website... kind of tempting.
Anyway, thanks everyone!
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I own both the Fascinate and the Incredible. I'd buy another Incredible over any other Verizon phone if I had to buy today. If I could wait I'd buy the Thunderbolt.

Im waiting for the bionic
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When are these coming out? I don't want to be without one of these things for more than a month or so...
The choice is basically Incredible, D2G, or D2X ($50, $150, $120 respectively from Amazon to upgrade on my brothers upgrade eligible line) if the iPhone reallyy comes out tomorrow, I'd have to think about this all over again -.-

hkseo100 said:
When are these coming out? I don't want to be without one of these things for more than a month or so...
The choice is basically Incredible, D2G, or D2X ($50, $150, $120 respectively from Amazon to upgrade on my brothers upgrade eligible line) if the iPhone reallyy comes out tomorrow, I'd have to think about this all over again -.-
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iPhone will be February at the soonest. It's being announced tomorrow

Personally it was the only choice for me. I think many of the new phones are getting toooooo big. Tho phone is the perfect size for me. If is also very very fast. I still have to get use to the screen keyboard. All my old phones had a keyboard. But that is not too bad.
So, my vote is yes. The size and speed makes it he best phone I have played with.
Thanks SoBBie
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Out of the phones you mentioned I would get an inc. Locked bootloaders + laggy stuttering stock launchers on motoblur devices make mad. Sense (especially the new sense) just feels really solid and polished
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There is a thread I made that shows all the ROMs (that are up to date with development) to show how awesome our dev community is. The incredible is an awesome phone. I am moving to the iPhone because I've wanted one since I switched to VZW, but if you want to stay with android and you are in the sub-4" market... go with the incredible. It is the heat.
The thread I mentioned is at the top of the droid incredible development page, as a sticky.

Ok so iPhone announced preorders begin Feb 3rd releases Feb 10th, if you want to stay Android get the Thunderbolt, Motorola does a horrible job with android phones and the Droid and Droid X community's are dead, if you get an Incredible your getting us, the great community but you could be getting the 4g LTE with the thunderbolt. In conclusion YOUR BETTER OFF GETTING THE THUNDERBOLT!
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What is the deal with upgrades at January 16th?
I have the discount pricing for additional family line (my little brother) available for use, that's why I was considering the 3 phones because they're not that pricey at Amazon.com or Newegg.com with contract.
Bloody hell, I would be stuck with a dumbphone until those new phones come out.. and I heard Verizon might do a more expensive plan for 4G phones?

lol iphone,, um negative.. hell im gonna leave verizon.. tired of paying out the arse.. lol gonna go to virgin mobile.. ( samsung intercept ) <----ya i know but for 27 bucks a month its worth it.. not to mention still have my DINC to play with over wifi...
I realized I didnt use alot of junk outside of facebook. last.f.m. and a few other apps. so the intercept will work just fine.. and still have 3g service..

hkseo100 said:
What is the deal with upgrades at January 16th?
I have the discount pricing for additional family line (my little brother) available for use, that's why I was considering the 3 phones because they're not that pricey at Amazon.com or Newegg.com with contract.
Bloody hell, I would be stuck with a dumbphone until those new phones come out.. and I heard Verizon might do a more expensive plan for 4G phones?
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I'm sure 4G would cost more.. it is 8x faster... but only 1/3 of their 3G is covered with 4G.. do us without have to pay.. if so, **** that. ill get a fascinate to be my play around phone then lol. 4g isn't that important to me, either is 2.3, nor 3.0.. i had 1.5 on my eris that was rock solid. ever since that freak hype for 2.1 it has ruined it for me. I will never let myself get that excited for an update again, esp considering how long that wait was for what felt like nothing. I think that is what the Thunderbolt is gunna be like, since 2/3 of the 3g population won't have 4g service it will basically be an incredible with a 4.3 screen, stand, sound, and second gen snapdragon or whatever.

supersobbie said:
Personally it was the only choice for me. I think many of the new phones are getting toooooo big. Tho phone is the perfect size for me. If is also very very fast. I still have to get use to the screen keyboard. All my old phones had a keyboard. But that is not too bad.
So, my vote is yes. The size and speed makes it he best phone I have played with.
Thanks SoBBie
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Same here.

i went from the fascinate to the Dinc for the same reasons you did, and couldn't be happier. There just wasn't a solid DEV community for that phone.. coming to the DINC was night and day.. so many choices, so much support.. I run the MIUI ROM and love it..

I left the D2 for the Incredible and have zero regrets. If you want to have custom ROMs and kernels, you have to stick with HTC. X/2 ROMs are really hamstrung by the locked bootloader.
The development scene on the Incredible is great and probably as good as it will get on Verizon for the foreseeable future. The Thunderbolt will get custom ROMs and kernels just the same, but public sentiment seems to indicate it won't be as popular - meaning a slightly smaller development community (though perhaps Incredible and EVO ports will be relatively simple).
All that said, I'm probably going to jump on the Thunderbolt the day its released

I love the inc, but i would also wait.
I would actually wait until I see a phone that has the dev support/community like the Inc.
For me, where the dev support goes is where I go.

Dinc2 vs iPhone 4

Okay guys I know many xda'ers don't hold apple in high regard but my girlfriend is looking to upgrade her blackberry soon. I would just like some opinions of the dinc2 and if anyone has used an ip4 as well and how do they compare? Hows the camera and video capture on dinc2? Also most likely I will be rooting her phone if she gets the dinc2 because she loves miui and wondering how easy it is to root it, Ive read the alpharev thread and I think I have the gist of it. Thanks any thoughts and opinions would be awesome.
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chewbz said:
Okay guys I know many xda'ers don't hold apple in high regard but my girlfriend is looking to upgrade her blackberry soon. I would just like some opinions of the dinc2 and if anyone has used an ip4 as well and how do they compare? Hows the camera and video capture on dinc2? Also most likely I will be rooting her phone if she gets the dinc2 because she loves miui and wondering how easy it is to root it, Ive read the alpharev thread and I think I have the gist of it. Thanks any thoughts and opinions would be awesome.
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I have chick friends that love the inc2, and I have chick friends that love the iphone4, depends on what she or U lol plan to do to it, root, jailbreak, ect..or nothing. if she wants basic go apple. if you want great community support go android.

Its not like android would be particularly difficult to get the hang of, hell my grandpa uses a Droid X. The iPhone isn't going to do anything the inc 2 can't, at this point I think people buy apple due to the perceived status.
And rooting is very simple, its not "one-click" easy, but if you're computer literate its easy. Literally takes a couple minutes once you're ready to go.

I do like the design of apple products but the company and its beloved followers I can't stand. In the end it is up to her but she weighs a lot on my opinion and told her I would ask the fine people at xda as well lol! Also I am cashing out 100 dollars to help pay for it too, and since I got a nexus, I'm hoping she pics the dinc2 .
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chewbz said:
I do like the design of apple products but the company and its beloved followers I can't stand. In the end it is up to her but she weighs a lot on my opinion and told her I would ask the fine people at xda as well lol! Also I am cashing out 100 dollars to help pay for it too, and since I got a nexus, I'm hoping she pics the dinc2 .
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Put it this way. you can get an iPhone and be stuck with iOS and whatever memory size you happen to choose forever (not to mention feel bitter once the next iPhone comes out).
Or you can get the more recent, more technically advanced DInc2, and be able interchange SD cards and Batteries, and switch HTC Sense, AOSP, or MIUI (which is basically iOS, except better because you can use widgets and everything else that makes Android awesome). In my opinion, if you fall prey to the flashy logos, sleek design and massive marketing and ignore the obvious advantages of the HTC android phones, then you deserve to be pigeon-holed in with the mouth-breathers that stand outside the Apple Store all night waiting for the iPad 3 to come out so it can (not) run flash up to 3X faster!

The only problem is I wouldn't get too excited about rooting the Inc2 off the jump because if you get one now it's likely to come with Gingerbread (unless one has been sitting on a shelf for a bit). If you get one, you better get it quick. Froyo had the only known root method and no telling how long it'll take to crack Gingerbread
That said, even in the situation that I didn't root, I have the Incredible 2 and I'd take it over the iPhone easily. HTC sense is really not a bad UI at all, slower than AOSP of course but of all the manufacturer skins on top of Android, Sense UI is by far the most useful.
The biggest problem with the iPhone 4 (to me) is that it doesn't really multitask and the hardware is starting to get a bit dated. The iPhone 4 isn't "slow" by any means, but most modern Android phones will run circles around it. The Dinc2 has good battery life too, I have to absolutely abuse mine for it not to last a whole day easily
If you do happen to get one with Froyo, AlpharevX is as painless as it gets. S-off and it installs clockworkmod recovery for you if you elect to.

Thanks guys, told her what you guys said and she is like 100 % sure she wants the dinc2 Now I'm excited, I get to play with 2 phones, hopefully she'll get one with froyo. If not I can always install adw or go luancher if she doesn't like sense.
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If she's coming from Blackberry and uses a ton of photo/video out of the phone the iphone may be better for you.
I switched my wife over from an Inc 1 to the iPhone and she's in love with it. The camera is unrivaled to be brutally honest, it smokes any android phones camera and i'd love for my inc2 to have the same quality.
Basically she's not a tech person, she needed easy, something that took good pictures, and battery. The inc2 has great battery but still nowhere near the IP4.
I've owned both, and I would never personally go back to an iPhone, but for my wife it was perfect for her, and she would never give hers up.

chewbz said:
Thanks guys, told her what you guys said and she is like 100 % sure she wants the dinc2 Now I'm excited, I get to play with 2 phones, hopefully she'll get one with froyo. If not I can always install adw or go luancher if she doesn't like sense.
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If you get one with Gingerbread on it, you can still S-OFF using the clip method.

If you're getting it new from Verizon I can't think of why it wouldn't be on froyo, unless HTC is already shipping out new units with gingerbread. Just don't take the OTA if you want root.

yeah she told me that she "didn't want to fall to the hype of iphone" lol. She just wants a bigger screen, and she always carries around a point and shoot where ever she goes so camera i'snt really that big of a deal. Also the Dinc2 is 50 dollars less than the iphone at bestbuy. All in all she goes one week to make up her mind lol!

well, the way I see it is that an iphone 4 is pretty much an ipod touch that you can make calls with. the other advantage, which is the main one i'd say, is that if you have a nice sound system in your car and the deck has an AUX in then absolutely nothing can compare with the output quality of an ipod touch/iphone.
ive tried mp3 players from creative, sansa(even with rockbox), sony, etc... even tried different phones(mytouch 3g, htc hd2, samsung galaxy s, and my current incredible 2). no matter how you adjust the eq's or what apps you use(even poweramp), they still do not compare to apple.
but, if you arent planning on doing that in your car then theres no point in getting an iphone4(especially now that android has Plants vs Zombies).

Best advice when choosing a device:
Go to a store with active devices and play with them. Spend some time with them. If you know people with the devices in mind, ask them if you can play with them and get to know them. Make the choice based on your experience, not the advice of others, because it all comes down to personal preference.
As much as I am a big fan of Android and Android devices, and despite the fact that I will never choose an iOS device, I would recommend a person try it before rejecting it.
My sister tried going from a blackberry to an Android device and found one very big legitimate problem with it. She's on Sprint and doesn't have the iPhone as a choice so she went back to blackberry. She liked Android, but that one glaring flaw was enough to push her away from it (at least for now). Of course, the same flaw exists on the iPhone so she's doomed to be stuck on blackberry (yeah, I hate blackberry).
If you want to know the flaw: She can make calls and do certain tasks without looking at her device. With Android, she was unable to do this. I'm betting with something like a Droid Pro this wouldn't be an issue, and the voice command features Android has acquired more recently would help a little, but it's not where she could get as proficient at it as she is with her blackberry.

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If you want to know the flaw: She can make calls and do certain tasks without looking at her device. With Android, she was unable to do this. I'm betting with something like a Droid Pro this wouldn't be an issue, and the voice command features Android has acquired more recently would help a little, but it's not where she could get as proficient at it as she is with her blackberry.
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Just out of curiosity, what kind of certain tasks? Is it a difference between having physical buttons versus softkeys?
EDIT: NVM.. I think I figured out what you might be referring to. That's an issue I have as well, but voice is a big help in it (even if not 100%).

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Just out of curiosity, what kind of certain tasks? Is it a difference between having physical buttons versus softkeys?
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Something like that. It's mostly a problem with her particular usage. She gets tactile feedback for what she is trying to do and can generally get things done without looking at her device. She's a pretty big multitasker so this is important to her. Unfortunately, this also helps her use her device in the car (I wish she wouldn't TBH).

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Something like that. It's mostly a problem with her particular usage. She gets tactile feedback for what she is trying to do and can generally get things done without looking at her device. She's a pretty big multitasker so this is important to her. Unfortunately, this also helps her use her device in the car (I wish she wouldn't TBH).
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Tactile feel = knowing keyboard layout. I was real good at punching out emails on my 9700 without looking at it for most of the email. Same with the car use, which I definitely no longer do (despite the fact that it is now also illegal here).
Curiosity answered.. Thanks.

I love my dinc! But what's next?

I'm an original at&t iPhone guy who switched to Verizon about a year ago when the android finally started making me drool over its superior look, feel and operation.
The fact that its open source and has far better customization, sold me in a heartbeat. I started with a Samsung fascinate and was sorely dissapointed. The phone always had bugs and never ran properly. Even after a much awaited froyo update.
I traded my fascinate on craigslist for my dinc about 4 months ago and was very impressed not only with the lack of bugs and lagginess but also at the development that has occurred. The devs for this phone are freakin awesome!!! Thanks guys!!
Now I see dual core processors and larger screens taking over the android market as well as an upcoming iPhone 5 that, I'm sure will live up to the apple name.
My question is simple. Should I keep my dinc until its done, should I upgrade to a newer android device or should I cross back to the dark side and have apple tell me what's good for me once again? Hmmmmmmm.....
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Nothing is worthy of replacing the inc yet. I look daily. Lol
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wollitaj said:
I'm an original at&t iPhone guy who switched to Verizon about a year ago when the android finally started making me drool over its superior look, feel and operation.
The fact that its open source and has far better customization, sold me in a heartbeat. I started with a Samsung fascinate and was sorely dissapointed. The phone always had bugs and never ran properly. Even after a much awaited froyo update.
I traded my fascinate on craigslist for my dinc about 4 months ago and was very impressed not only with the lack of bugs and lagginess but also at the development that has occurred. The devs for this phone are freakin awesome!!! Thanks guys!!
Now I see dual core processors and larger screens taking over the android market as well as an upcoming iPhone 5 that, I'm sure will live up to the apple name.
My question is simple. Should I keep my dinc until its done, should I upgrade to a newer android device or should I cross back to the dark side and have apple tell me what's good for me once again? Hmmmmmmm.....
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I'm keeping my Dinc until it's upgrade time (beginning of Jan 2012), and if there is no suitable replacement (for my tastes) then I have no problems sticking with the Dinc. It's a great phone and will still be a great phone in 6 months from now.
As for switching to iPhone, that's a matter of preference. I'm a Mac user that prefers Android over iOS because iOS doesn't have the flexibility and functionality that Android does. I do think that iOS can be prettier and more polished in some ways, but the functionality of an Android phone is worth more than the eye candy of iOS.

I would say the only worthy upgrade seems to be the SGS2(if it has lte) or the Nexus 4G/htc verzion that are rumored for this fall/winter.

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I would say the only worthy upgrade seems to be the SGS2(if it has lte) or the Nexus 4G/htc verzion that are rumored for this fall/winter.
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HTC Nexus on Verizon *drooool*

I did a long hard search and honestly there is nothing better than the DINC right now.
The Droid incredible 2 I still wouldn't take just because of the lack of development.

I'd be surprised if Verizon would allow a stock phone without bloatware all over the damn place.. I'd love if I was wrong but I wouldn't be surprised if it was still a sprint phone. Saw an article about how sprint is now going to be removing bloatware or making it uninstallable. Pretty respectable move IMO, but I can't see Verizon following suit.

actually the nexus 4g lte is rumored to go to At&t with their new 4g lte network not verizons and sprint sort of exagerates "lies" the removal of bloatware because you can only remove 5 or so apps

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HTC Nexus on Verizon *drooool*
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Ill tell ya what, if the next nexus is truely an HTC phone on Verizon, I will definitely get it. Its the best of everything android stands for. Open source vanilla OS and superior hardware. HTC is, by far, my top pick for any android phone!!!! And ics, come on.... What more can u ask for?
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TheWhiteBandito said:
I'm keeping my Dinc until it's upgrade time (beginning of Jan 2012), and if there is no suitable replacement (for my tastes) then I have no problems sticking with the Dinc. It's a great phone and will still be a great phone in 6 months from now.
As for switching to iPhone, that's a matter of preference. I'm a Mac user that prefers Android over iOS because iOS doesn't have the flexibility and functionality that Android does. I do think that iOS can be prettier and more polished in some ways, but the functionality of an Android phone is worth more than the eye candy of iOS.
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That's when I have my upgrade option as well and honestly I'm thinking about switching to Sprint. They have been getting some of the best phones lately. When I look at Verizon's line up and upcoming it seems to be all of the same.

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actually the nexus 4g lte is rumored to go to At&t with their new 4g lte network not verizons and sprint sort of exagerates "lies" the removal of bloatware because you can only remove 5 or so apps
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Hm i didn't see that.
http://www.engadget.com/2011/07/19/sprints-fared-adib-we-made-a-conscious-decision-to-scale-back/

Man, there STILL isn't anything even being talked about to be released to consider. Disappointing!
The only consolation is that we still have one of the best phones out there.

I have incredible faith (heh heh) in our devs. Seeing as the inc2 has just been rooted and we have the 2 big boys, cm7 and Miui already available for the device, i believe ill be accidentally taking a shower with my Dinc in my pocket in the next few weeks.
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Man, there STILL isn't anything even being talked about to be released to consider. Disappointing!
The only consolation is that we still have one of the best phones out there.
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Also, as far as I'm concerned, as long as the devs hold in there with this phone until the end of this year and port ICS, I will probably keep this phone until it dies.
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Im keeping my Incredible until 3/13/13. Then i dont know if my girlfriend gets my upgrade or i do.
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What's next is called the Thunderbolt. It's got a screen bright enough to read, battery life... well, anything has batter battery life than a dInc, absolutely stupid-fast 4G, a stupid-fast CPU that EASILY clocks up to 1.6GHz, and a screen big enough for a keyboard. I lived with the dInc for a long time, longer than any other phone I've ever had. I cannot for the life of me understand how anyone can say with a straight face that the original dInc isn't bested yet. There is literally nothing that the dInc does as well, let alone better, than either the Thunderbolt or the dInc2.

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I'd be surprised if Verizon would allow a stock phone without bloatware all over the damn place.. I'd love if I was wrong but I wouldn't be surprised if it was still a sprint phone. Saw an article about how sprint is now going to be removing bloatware or making it uninstallable. Pretty respectable move IMO, but I can't see Verizon following suit.
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Verizon gets a small incentive from the companies of the bloatware, that's why they put them on there. and i don't think verizon will ever get a nexus bone stock android phone, i really don't, here is why. Verizon isn't really out there for the consumer, they are out there for the profit. hence why, i mean at t-mobile and ATT, if you want a new phone, no problem, walk into the store, and get one at the upgrade price....in the middle of your contract.
Verizon hasn't gotten the idea of that just yet. plus like other companies, verizon does have shareholders to report to (and they aren't happy, they think the data plan changes will ruin their investment)
the only reason i have verizon is because that's the only carrier here with decent coverege, and they really aren't as bad as people make them out to be.

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What's next is called the Thunderbolt. It's got a screen bright enough to read, battery life... well, anything has batter battery life than a dInc,
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that's your oppinion.
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absolutely stupid-fast 4G, a stupid-fast CPU that EASILY clocks up to 1.6GHz, and a screen big enough for a keyboard.
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yeah, we can overclock any phone, and switch to landscape mode to type somthing. and 4G isn't nationwide in every single town yet, i want to know people seem to think that. and not everyone wants a big-ass phone in their pockets. i have somtuing called a laptop, and it works just great if i want somthing better than 3.5 inches
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I lived with the dInc for a long time, longer than any other phone I've ever had. I cannot for the life of me understand how anyone can say with a straight face that the original dInc isn't bested yet.
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maybe because we have devs who already got it to gingerbread? and with that logic everyone in this country on the roads should be driving brand new 2012 model year cars, right now. people are happy with what they have and they make it better. not everyone has 500+ dollars to spend on a new phone everytime they come out.
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There is literally nothing that the dInc does as well, let alone better, than either the Thunderbolt or the dInc2.
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really? there isn't much difference, gingerbread as i said above, is already on various roms for the dinc. the main selling point for the t-bolt right now is that it's a 4g CAPABLE phone. if you are not in a 4g area, you will get 3g coverege. my area won't get 4g until a few years from now. and no, i don't live in "podunk nebraska" i live in a town of about 48,500+ people.
the way you pimp the freaking t-bolt so much... the thunderbolt threads are down there

Kiboe said:
that's your oppinion.
yeah, we can overclock any phone, and switch to landscape mode to type somthing. and 4G isn't nationwide in every single town yet, i want to know people seem to think that. and not everyone wants a big-ass phone in their pockets. i have somtuing called a laptop, and it works just great if i want somthing better than 3.5 inches
maybe because we have devs who already got it to gingerbread? and with that logic everyone in this country on the roads should be driving brand new 2012 model year cars, right now. people are happy with what they have and they make it better. not everyone has 500+ dollars to spend on a new phone everytime they come out.
really? there isn't much difference, gingerbread as i said above, is already on various roms for the dinc. the main selling point for the t-bolt right now is that it's a 4g CAPABLE phone. if you are not in a 4g area, you will get 3g coverege. my area won't get 4g until a few years from now. and no, i don't live in "podunk nebraska" i live in a town of about 48,500+ people.
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Guess what? I had a dInc2 to play with for a week and I still have my Tbolt and I'm about to kernel up my old dInc, so yeah, I've got a hell of a lot more clue than pretty much everyone on this thread as to what I'm talking about. My dInc has been running GB for quite a while now. So has my Bolt. The dInc2 did EVERYTHING faster than the original, running bone stock firmware!
I'm not gonna make excuses for the Bolt. The firmware for that phone, and a good number of the leaks have been lousy. But, the more recent leaks have yielded absolutely bullet-proof, flowing-water smooth ROMs. The question was "What's next?". That big plate of glass next to me IS what's next. There is no question about it. It's not opinion. As for 4G, when towns like Fostoria, OH pop up with LTE, I'm thinking very broad coverage on this side of the Mississippi is clearly coming.... well before my contract is up. Hell! Even 3G is faster on the dInc2 and Tbolt, if for no other reason than they have the power to render things quicker. I'm glad people are happy with what they have. The dInc was, and still is, a solid, modern phone more capable than many devices to come after it. Too bad it looks pretty dated in light of Tbolts and dInc2's and several other phones. When I read someone write something like "I keep looking and I don't see anything that measures up to the dInc", I'm wondering how much crack they smoke. You're either insane, on drugs, or oblivious to reality to think that.

loonatik78 said:
Guess what? I had a dInc2 to play with for a week and I still have my Tbolt and I'm about to kernel up my old dInc, so yeah, I've got a hell of a lot more clue than pretty much everyone on this thread as to what I'm talking about. My dInc has been running GB for quite a while now. So has my Bolt. The dInc2 did EVERYTHING faster than the original, running bone stock firmware!
I'm not gonna make excuses for the Bolt. The firmware for that phone, and a good number of the leaks have been lousy. But, the more recent leaks have yielded absolutely bullet-proof, flowing-water smooth ROMs. The question was "What's next?". That big plate of glass next to me IS what's next. There is no question about it. It's not opinion. As for 4G, when towns like Fostoria, OH pop up with LTE, I'm thinking very broad coverage on this side of the Mississippi is clearly coming.... well before my contract is up. Hell! Even 3G is faster on the dInc2 and Tbolt, if for no other reason than they have the power to render things quicker. I'm glad people are happy with what they have. The dInc was, and still is, a solid, modern phone more capable than many devices to come after it. Too bad it looks pretty dated in light of Tbolts and dInc2's and several other phones. When I read someone write something like "I keep looking and I don't see anything that measures up to the dInc", I'm wondering how much crack they smoke. You're either insane, on drugs, or oblivious to reality to think that.
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Wow man way to be a total ****. I have an incredible and my brother has a Tbolt, I can honestly say I prefer mine over it.
Besides that, although the Tbolt and INC2 *are* upgrades from the INC- for most people they just aren't worth someone's 2-year contract or full retail to get that sort of an upgrade. You've been out of the INC scene for a while it looks like.. and DEV's here are still putting out loads of stuff every day increasing performance/battery life/features -- moreso than INC2 or Thunderbolt since they've been out a shorter time. The INC2 even has issues now where if you buy it and it comes with GB, you can't even root it.
4G is extremely scarce, if you drive out 5 miles from whatever city you're in then you're out of luck as far as 4G goes. 4G is nowhere in my state yet, not even in our capitol (Richmond) and it looks like it'll be at least a year, probably more until we get it. The 3G, at least where I'm at, is fantastically good. I get 320kb/s on a good day and low 200's/kb/s during peak hours. That's enough to stream Colbert report, download movies (I've downloaded 4 so far) and watch netflix without pauses or hiccups.
So.. even if there WAS 4G in my area there really isn't any need that I get it since I don't normally watch HD movies on a ~4" screen or tether it to a datacenter.
Your opinion and mine.. but you don't need to flaunt around your phone while downing the INC (on our own forums) which is a perfectly awesome phone.

After the Incredible?

What is everyone planning to get as their next phone? I love my Incredible but the last couple of days, I've been getting FC's left and right and strange errors, missing texts and calls, random reboots, etc.... I think it's on its last days .... I'm eligible for a new phone but didn't want to get one until now ..... any recommendations for a new phone? I haven't really seen any announcements for the next big phone from Verizon and 4G phones kill your battery and are overrated (IMO) right now.

Well, if you're staying with Verizon there's the Droid Bionic, their Galaxy SII variant and the HTC Vigor. Granted, you'll have to wait a month or two for em, but they should be worth it.
If you don't plan on staying with Verizon there's always the Nexus Prime.

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What is everyone planning to get as their next phone? I love my Incredible but the last couple of days, I've been getting FC's left and right and strange errors, missing texts and calls, random reboots, etc.... I think it's on its last days .... I'm eligible for a new phone but didn't want to get one until now ..... any recommendations for a new phone? I haven't really seen any announcements for the next big phone from Verizon and 4G phones kill your battery and are overrated (IMO) right now.
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If you've got 4G where you're at, it's really nice, so nice I'd NEVER go back to 3G, but it's also heavily ROM and radio dependent as to how it eats your battery. 4G on my Tbolt is basically as good as 3G on my dInc is. If you could care less about 4G, the BEST 3G device to be had is the dInc2. I never even thought about charging that thing most of the time. The battery just keeps going and going. 2 days, easy.

My re-up time is coming up in late November, and I'm looking at the Vigor or Bionic. The stats we're seeing on the Vigor are awesome. Dual core running at 1.5g, front facing camera is 2mp, and 4g. The only thing I'll need are extra batteries
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my last early upgrade happens the first week of September, at this point there is nothing available from big red that excites me. My next phone must be a dual core LTE phone. but I'm thinking of waiting until November or so, Vigor sounds promising so far.
My DINC still rocks, so there is really no hurry.

I'm in the same boat as the OP. Tons of FC's and SMS and MMS not showing up even after full wipes X 3 and fresh installs from the market. Recently I can't find a ROM that runs smoothly on my device.
I have my eyes on the SGII or the Vigor, but it's going to be tough holding on for that long... I'm ready now.

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I'm in the same boat as the OP. Tons of FC's and SMS and MMS not showing up even after full wipes X 3 and fresh installs from the market. Recently I can't find a ROM that runs smoothly on my device.
I have my eyes on the SGII or the Vigor, but it's going to be tough holding on for that long... I'm ready now.
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I know what you mean. My contract is up next week and I want that Vigor so bad.

Hoping my inc lasts until 2013
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Galaxy SII, HTC Vigor....but most likely the Nexus Prime if it comes to Verizon

I'll be keeping my Dinc until a good phone with native PC dock support comes out on Verizon (unless another network with great coverage like Sprint gets it first). Then I'll never need another laptop.

Would love the next nexus phone, but I'd bet money it won't be on the "largest high-speed wireless network in America." So the it will be the Cativate 2 or maybe the Bionic....

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What is everyone planning to get as their next phone? I love my Incredible but the last couple of days, I've been getting FC's left and right and strange errors, missing texts and calls, random reboots, etc.... I think it's on its last days .... I'm eligible for a new phone but didn't want to get one until now ..... any recommendations for a new phone? I haven't really seen any announcements for the next big phone from Verizon and 4G phones kill your battery and are overrated (IMO) right now.
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I want something with a similar footprint (3.7") to Dinc — my Dinc2 is too big for my liking. Funny, some low-end droids (samsung iirc) had similar footprint to Dinc. I just like HTC phones though, so I'm waiting for another >4" HTC, or buy [lightly used] Dincs from eBay until phones stop trending so huge (over 4.3" they might as well be a tablet!)

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I want something with a similar footprint (3.7") to Dinc — my Dinc2 is too big for my liking. Funny, some low-end droids (samsung iirc) had similar footprint to Dinc. I just like HTC phones though, so I'm waiting for another >4" HTC, or buy [lightly used] Dincs from eBay until phones stop trending so huge (over 4.3" they might as well be a tablet!)
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I seriously doubt you'll ever see anything as tiny as the dInc from HTC again. The EVO Shift is probably as small as you're going to get from here on out. As the screens get more efficient, I think you're going to see them trend up to roughly 4.3 inches or so and hang out right about there. 5" is WAY too big. Apple has got to be realizing that resolution only matters so much and you're only going to sell phones with postage stamp sized touch screens for so long before you're the ONLY one doing it. Since the dInc is gone, they really ARE the ONLY ones doing it. Sorry, but that's just how it is.

I'm really impressed with the Galaxy SII but I love me some HTC phones. I can't upgrade until the end of December so I have plenty of time to go crazy for the latest and greatest phone only to see it trashed in the forums until the next big thing comes along.
I'll probably fall in love with at least 3 phones before it is over with.
I'm not getting another new release phone. This next one will have to be out for a while before I buy it - I'm tired of being the guinea pig.
Only 3 more posts until I hit my 10.

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I seriously doubt you'll ever see anything as tiny as the dInc from HTC again. The EVO Shift is probably as small as you're going to get from here on out. As the screens get more efficient, I think you're going to see them trend up to roughly 4.3 inches or so and hang out right about there. 5" is WAY too big.
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That's why I'm going to try to hang onto my dIncs as long as possible. But I think there'll always be a market for small sleek gadgets, including phones. If I _had_ to choose a replacement today, I suppose I'd go with one of the samsung skinnies (not a samsung fan), but I'd have every expectation that htc would remember it's sleek design roots!

I bought this as a stop gap until more 4G phones came out..but I'm growing to like this phone a lot
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bought an evo 3d get 415mb of ram on boot fast as hell now to save up for an htc vigor

I'm happy with my Incredible so far but my only issue is with battery life. Would like a Incredible 2 but it just doesn't feel like a big update. The only thing that would make me jump on the incredible 2 is if it had a dual core and maybe a better camera also. Will always love anything that is running ASOP android. Don't need sense or anything fancy like that. Hoping the Nexus Prime comes to verizon. Maybe?

I hope this comes true. I would pounce immediately.
http://www.technobuffalo.com/compan...ving-samsung-ice-cream-sandwiches-to-verizon/

I really hope that there is no 4.65 inch screen. Give me 4 inches. Thats all we really need.

[Q] Who else is getting the Galaxy Nexus?

Well first off, my Incredible has been a POS ever since I dropped it and cracked the screen, even though I replaced it, it doesnt work right.
Not only that, Im tired of Sense. I was pissed that we got Gingerbread 8 months after it was announced and also even if I get a new HTC phone, Sense has just become too bloated for me.
So how many other people are going to become Android Purists and get the Galaxy Nexus?

you should do a poll.
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As exciting as it is...I still want to wait for the hype to die down a Tad

Already polled here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1284463
Even though the names of both phones are now wrong, the Vigor being the Rezound and the Prime being the Galaxy-Nexus.
If you hated Sense that much I'm actually pretty surprised you haven't rooted and put on an AOSP ROM. The DINC has had an awesome development community and we've been lucky enough to have a ton of really great ROMs ported for us and we were never tied to waiting for HTC or being stuck with Sense.

abrin said:
Already polled here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1284463
Even though the names of both phones are now wrong, the Vigor being the Rezound and the Prime being the Galaxy-Nexus.
If you hated Sense that much I'm actually pretty surprised you haven't rooted and put on an AOSP ROM. The DINC has had an awesome development community and we've been lucky enough to have a ton of really great ROMs ported for us and we were never tied to waiting for HTC or being stuck with Sense.
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agreed. We have never been short on ROMs. I have found that there have been some really awesome ones with sense. Mctwist is running smooth as ever.
I'm probably going to get the galaxy nexus after it comes out and is clear from any major bugs, but that is just to upgrade because there is nothing wrong with my incredible. It has literally been incredible since the day I got it. It's rare for phones these days to actually be able to do that.

I am getting the Nexus and then using my incredible as a back up.
Will finally have a back up phone that is android.

Still torn on this myself. I will definitely have to see it in person, and I'd like to see how the developer community works out.
Of course by then some new better yet phone will be just around the corner.
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That galaxy nexus looks sweet. I going to have to keep my eye on that one.

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I am getting the Nexus and then using my incredible as a back up.
Will finally have a back up phone that is android.
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Same here. I like a lot - a LOT - of what I've seen and heard about the Vigor/Rezound, but I simply want to give the Galaxy Nexus a solid try. ICS from day one, cutting-edge updates. The ICS presentation in Hong Kong sold me, I don't want to wait weeks to months (I suspect a viable AOSP Inc build within a week of the AOSP ICS release - I'm not as confident on the Vigor, since we don't know the bootloader status yet, and this IS Verizon we're talking about) for ICS on a Vigor.
They're (rumored to be) coming out close enough together, that if I end up disliking my Galaxy Nexus and just like the Rezound better (you can bet I'll be in a B&M VZW store getting my hands on it) I can return and switch.
I really like my Incredible a lot, and I'm floored with the strong dev community for it, and what I've seen of similar things for the EVO family and so on. I hope the same for the Vigor/Rezound will be true. But then again, I've seen an overwhelming majority of anyone with a Nexus phone saying how happy they are with theirs.

For one, I'll be getting it just because it's a Nexus device. I enjoy my Incredible and will continue use it as a backup. I've tried all kinds of Roms and I just wanna try something different. I enjoy Sense but the recent versions have just not been fun for me, maybe that's because of Verizon's locking down or something.

It looks nice, but I am going to watch the hype for a bit. It is hard to move on from something as smooth and still as well supported as our INC.

I am going for the Droid Razr, never have and never will own a Samsung phone. Motorola and HTC have proven themselves in the Signal Strength and Quality category for many many years.

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I am going for the Droid Razr, never have and never will own a Samsung phone. Motorola and HTC have proven themselves in the Signal Strength and Quality category for many many years.
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I own a samsung and am very impressed with it, samsung would be my top choice although I'm open minded to others.
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I'm totally getting a Nexus.
All these low storage errors are starting to piss me off.
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Try the ext data moved mod?

gadzooks64 said:
I'm totally getting a Nexus.
All these low storage errors are starting to piss me off.
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not an issue in any of their newer phones either.
I was completely going for the Rezound before I realized that it's still a mystery if it's going to get an unlocked bootloader or not. That's a deciding factor for me.
The Nexus is a great phone, but again another huge letdown is the SD card slot. I use my phone as my iPod so I need the space for my music collection.
I have no problem waiting with my trusty INC until I can see better how these phones will turn out.
Waiting for the quad core phone that is not even coming to verizon is just insanity. It'll be such a long wait, I'll bet you almost anything that the Q1 Q2 date will be pushed back, not to mention that phone is for AT&T, verizon may not see a quad core phone for another year.

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I was completely going for the Rezound before I realized that it's still a mystery if it's going to get an unlocked bootloader or not. That's a deciding factor for me.
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That's a pretty big issue for me too, and seeing that motorola pointed the finger at Verizon for the locked bootloader on the Droid Razr, I'm not expecting to see any sort of official bootloader unlocking from HTC (even if they wanted to) for the Rezound. Wouldn't be surprised to see something down the road from revolutionary/unrevoked, but I'd like to be able to buy a phone, turn on USB debugging, plug it into my laptop, do a quick 'fastboot oem unlock' and be done with it (nexus).
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The Nexus is a great phone, but again another huge letdown is the SD card slot. I use my phone as my iPod so I need the space for my music collection.
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Google music beta. I've got an invite if you need.

abrin said:
Already polled here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1284463
If you hated Sense that much I'm actually pretty surprised you haven't rooted and put on an AOSP ROM. The DINC has had an awesome development community and we've been lucky enough to have a ton of really great ROMs ported for us and we were never tied to waiting for HTC or being stuck with Sense.
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Amen. Your phone is only as smart as you are..
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Me.......,.,.

k_nivesout said:
Google music beta. I've got an invite if you need.
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I had it, used it, uninstalled it. Streaming over 3G isn't that great in spotty coverage, plus I really dislike the app and how it functions, the UI mostly.
The more I think about it though, the more I think 32GB will be enough. I'm leaning towards the Nexus but still going to wait it out. With the prices they're being sold at I don't want to make a choice that I'll end up regretting.