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My friend cannot decide between the two he says it feels the same. can you guys tell me the difference besides sense and froyo.
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each one has it's own link. You'll have to read each one to see the difference.
I think this is a valid question as these are the two best roms out there and I am trying to decide myself. I think I am going to go with the latest Cyanogenmod nightly. There does not appear to be a lot of information on the damage control due to the limited downloads.
I've only used damage 3.2 up until this point but its time for a change.
well id go with CM6 seeing as how damage is requiring a "donation" in order for you to use the froyo damage....dont know how much of a "donation" it is when its a requirement....
however the intelligent answer would be use CM6 right now since you don't have to pay for it and when damage 3.5 becomes available for free try that...
bugmenever said:
I think this is a valid question as these are the two best roms out there and I am trying to decide myself. I think I am going to go with the latest Cyanogenmod nightly. There does not appear to be a lot of information on the damage control due to the limited downloads.
I've only used damage 3.2 up until this point but its time for a change.
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This is of course your opinion. I believe Fresh is the best Rom out right now. And my opinion is equally meaningless. This is not a major life choice...
I understand practical threads dealing with problems and technicalities but these threads which either ask for an opinion as if it were fact (or people responding with their opinion as fact) or asking about things which are easily found out on your own by taking two minutes to read seem utterly pointless and clutter the forum.
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Yeah, tell your "friend" to just try different ROMs and see which is better. If you don't like one, wipe and flash another. Sorry . . . if your "friend" doesn't like one. . . .
DC 3.5 has a lot of issues. CM would be your best bet for froyo. For based off of stock you will probably want Fresh or DC.
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If you want Froyo, these are probably the top 2 canidates. It will more than likely come down to Sense or no Sense. CM6 is a bit farther in dev than DC 3.5 but both still have their issues(like every Froyo rom for our phones). Most of the issues are similar across the board. I've run every CM nightly, RC1, and both DC betas. RC1 is the least buggy, but DC's beta 3 will def be much smoother. If you're happy with your current 2.1 rom's speed and stability, stay with it. If you wanna see what your phone is capable of with a few nuances on the way, try out a Froyo rom. The devs have just about everything working. You can always NAND back.
my friend decided in CM 6. thanks guys.
I loved DC 3.2.3 it was smooth and practicly error less. With that said I jumped to RC1 CM6 and I am loving it. 2.2 and I am not going back. One thing I will say is that CM6 has its settings more integrated into the rom and The old DC had an app to adjust the rom specific settings. For now my choice is CM6.
I know someone mentioned something about donating. Once you choose a rom you like I say donate and be thankful. I know a lot of us spend a few dollars here and there on apps in the market so whats a 5 or 10 dollar donation for a rom.
Honestly, both RoMs are great and both have some of the same Froyo issues.
I tired them both, and I actually went back to 2.1.
Froyo may be great and all that, but I can't notice much of a difference in anything I do on my phone versus 2.1.
All the people dying for more FPS, MFLOPS(whatever that does) must play a lot of game or something because the only way I know I'm getting more fps or mflops is if I run an app specifically designed to test it.
Not at all bashing Froyo because I'm sure it is amazing, just that the Devs here at XDA have made the 2.1 roms so fast and smooth that I can't tell a difference between them and froyo. For me, the battery life and virtually bugless 2.1 roms beat the 2.2 roms for now. Tell your friend to play around with a few, make a nand on one he likes and go from there.
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well id go with CM6 seeing as how damage is requiring a "donation" in order for you to use the froyo damage....dont know how much of a "donation" it is when its a requirement....
however the intelligent answer would be use CM6 right now since you don't have to pay for it and when damage 3.5 becomes available for free try that...
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They don't require a donation. He was sending the beta out to anyone who had ever donated to him, ever, including during the Hero ROMs.
People just donated to him now so they could get an early look at it. It wasn't quite up to TrevE and damageless release standards, so they let the people who donated beta test it. You could seriously send them a dollar and they would let you test it. When it's ready for prime time, it will be free.
I've a nandroid of both CM6 and DC 3.5, and they are both great ROMs. I go back and forth pretty much as each one is updated, and it's hard to choose one over the other. I personally like sense, and it doesn't slow Froyo down one bit, as both ROMs test almost identical in quadrant, stdev, and linpack.
When I use CM6, I miss sense. I just like it. I know, I'm in the minority, whatever. When I use DC 3.5, I miss the ultra customization that CM6 allows for, right from the menus.
I'm still undecided, but it will probably be DC in the end, just because I do like sense so much, and from what I've seen, there aren't any drawbacks to it, at least in DC 3.5.
Mot really a question per se, I am running CM6 on my slide, and do not see a great speed increase from the bloated Espresso Sense UI.....ant thoughts?
And for my original statement...does anyone think we will ever see function and shift lights on a modded slide? I know I dont NEED them, but it is original equipment on the phone, so I was just wondering
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Mot really a question per se, I am running CM6 on my slide, and do not see a great speed increase from the bloated Espresso Sense UI.....ant thoughts?
And for my original statement...does anyone think we will ever see function and shift lights on a modded slide? I know I dont NEED them, but it is original equipment on the phone, so I was just wondering
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Not really a question? I see two.
You should definitely see a speed increase on CM6 related mods. At least the one's presented here on this site are blazing fast.
Which ROM do you have? Do you have dumfuq's Kernel?
Download SetCPU here located on the site in-case you don't have it and let it configure your speed and how much you can overclock. Also, any app that kills tasks will greatly increase your speed.
To answer the other, I don't see why lights wouldn't be fixed in the future.
lol, not really a question per se, but how much droid would an android droid if an android could droid droids?
Hayzie said:
lol, not really a question per se, but how much droid would an android droid if an android could droid droids?
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37... point 2
I highly doubt a task killer would do you any good if you're looking for speed increases, if you're unhappy with the way your device is performing and think you can get a better deal by returning to stock then by all means do so.
I'd imagine the keyboard indicator lights are going to be fixed in the future but there are other issues that are taking priority over the lights such as BT functionality, Market issues, etc.
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37... point 2
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That's... wow!
Android, more like Steroid.
Hayzie said:
That's... wow!
Android, more like Steroid.
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wow.. -_______________________- also questions belong in Q&A you know where people go fro questions an answers, not in development
i know what you mean by the speed. I too wasnt happy with the initial cm6 release or myfroyo6 and went back to stock cuz it was faster. couple weeks later when there was a re-release of cm6, i re-rooted and flashed it as well as dumfuq's oc kernal. cm6 and any other rom really doesnt run faster that stock, but flash that kernal and it will be WAY faster than stock. Stock and normal cm6 only ran like 1.5 mflpos but with the 844 oc kernal i get >9 mflops. 844 is a bit unstable and may not reboot properly the first time (or second lol), but i use it daily and am very happy. 806 is very stable and you still get good performance.
The problem is....THe SLide is S0 Fass ThAt It bEe BLaZiN ThRu em r0mz, s0 iTs Be kILLin BLowin ya's mInds.
I agree about froyo. None of them are any faster than stock. Yes froyo is faster according to linpack and quadrant.
The fastest and smoothest Rom that has been released is aria2slide.
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sultan.of.swing said:
I agree about froyo. None of them are any faster than stock. Yes froyo is faster according to linpack and quadrant.
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I agree with this statement 110%. I've been running CM6 for a few very specific reasons and haven't been impressed so far. People keep SAYING it's faster due to Linpack, etc, but until you truly understand how programs (Java, in particular) operate - including optimizations and more - then I don't think people should trust a CPU benchmark. Even beyond hardware there are many things in software that can impact what the user perceives as "fast" and "reliable" versus what the CPU thinks.
If ANYONE in the CM6 crowd should be excited about something, it is the features of Froyo, NOT the speed. I'm likely to go back to stock and use your (sultan.of.swing's) JIT hacks.
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Mot really a question per se, I am running CM6 on my slide, and do not see a great speed increase from the bloated Espresso Sense UI.....ant thoughts?
And for my original statement...does anyone think we will ever see function and shift lights on a modded slide? I know I dont NEED them, but it is original equipment on the phone, so I was just wondering
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It's frustrating when people like you come in without adding anything (I doubt you've created a rom that you've shared with the community), only taking. Then complaining at that.
Also not adhering to the forum rules. These questions should be posted either:
1. In the q&a forum
2. In the CM6 thread
If you did respect the forum and READ more you would
find out about all the ways to optimize the speed of your phone.
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It's frustrating when people like you come in without adding anything (I doubt you've created a rom that you've shared with the community), only taking. Then complaining at that.
Also not adhering to the forum rules. These questions should be posted either:
1. In the q&a forum
2. In the CM6 thread
If you did respect the forum and READ more you would
find out about all the ways to optimize the speed of your phone.
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.... I don't think he was complaining.. he merely said he doesn't see a speed difference between bloat ware and cm6 and asked for the thoughts of anyone else. Not once did he bash the cm6 rom for being slow in his opinion, he asked a question. And also he wanted to know if the lights would ever work he never said " why don't they or cm6 rom is ****ty for not having it implemented" he asked will we ever see it. Granted this could have been put in the Q and A but it still helped me being in this section, thanks to the feedback from others towards his question I learned something new. I didn't know you had to make a rom in order to be a contributor to the community lol
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It's frustrating when people like you come in without adding anything (I doubt you've created a rom that you've shared with the community), only taking. Then complaining at that.
Also not adhering to the forum rules. These questions should be posted either:
1. In the q&a forum
2. In the CM6 thread
If you did respect the forum and READ more you would
find out about all the ways to optimize the speed of your phone.
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Have you made any ROMs? Because if you haven't according to what you just posted you are a taker just as much as he is. That being said you have no right to call him out or complain at him. Only he did wrong was post his question in the wrong thread. Also what have you added to the community that makes it okay to accuse others of not giving back?
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i used to have a htc vogue (aka htc touch vx 6900 US Cellular) that would run android eclair but slowly. i was due for an upgrade and picked up the more powerful touch pro 2 specifically to run android smoother. i love the dual boot between a nice custom win mo rom and android,however, ive noticed there isnt nearly as many diffrent android developers trying to port or whatever the term is to get it to work on the touch pro 2 like there is with win mobile roms. project android froyo ([PRJ][GSM&CDMA][CAB&RAR] XDAndroid AOSP Port & Startup Utility [8/30] FIXED NOISE!) has the most working stuff but even on a overclock runs like crap,lagging and not running certain apps. the klinux eclair 2.1 sense UI is great but locks up,lags,no sounds and has no internet. neopeek's eclair runs the best out of them all,super fast and responsive but no internet,no live wall paper and no sounds.
can anyone point me in the right direction of a actual android project or update that can bring me as close to a functioning android OS that will work. eclair looks promising on speed,but there is to much that is still broke on it. thx
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can anyone point me in the right direction of a actual android project
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Are you implying the existing projects are not "actual"?
People have put a lot of time and effort into these projects, and that type of comment is not going to get you a lot of love on this forum.
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Are you implying the existing projects are not "actual"?
People have put a lot of time and effort into these projects, and that type of comment is not going to get you a lot of love on this forum.
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when i said "actual" i ment one that works, im not trying to criticize any of the developers here or not be appreciative. im just looking to have android run as smooth as everyone else does on their tp2.
TP2 Development
I am experiencing the same situation as you, but understand the TP2 is still under heavy development. Now that sound is working I would imagine stability and other features will be addressed in the next few weeks. If you want a phone that will work perfectly with Android switch to the HTC Desire that US Cellular just put out a few weeks back, it ships with Android. You can buy yourself out of the contract pro-rated for the time you have left. You cannot expect a phone that ships with Windows Mobile to run Android flawlessly. If you want to increase progress you can download the development tools and help, or you can post a bounty for items you would like addressed. You could also download the 6/20 version of MightyROM and enjoy a stable WM6.5 build. Good luck!
They all work, just to varying degrees.
([PRJ][GSM&CDMA][CAB&RAR] XDAndroid AOSP Port & Startup Utility [8/30] FIXED NOISE!) has the most working stuff
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That's probably the best build right there. If you were expecting Android to run flawlessly on your fancy new phone, you are very, very mistaken.
If you want Android to run like it does on Android-specific devices... then you probably should've bought an Android device.
yea, i know its still under dev, but its like i have to choose between lag on froyo builds but almost everything works,or eclair builds that run as smooth as silk but miss out on my data connection,gps,ect ect.
ive just spent so much time into studying everything into android development and installation/updates ect ect and i still haven't even scratched the surface and it becomes frustrating after a full month of installing and deleting and back and forth testing,trust me, i know we all do the same here,but my eyes are burning from reading so many forums/topics/guides and i figure ill just ask if anyone has got a few of the bugs i have mentioned out of the way.
i can appreciate that somethings dont work cause thats just the way it is,but the kicker here is that the froyo build has almost everything working correctly, not to go back right not and look at the topic,but the only thing thats not working is camera,battery and bluetooth i think? and no big deal i dont need it anyways right now, but why cant i get an eclair build in the same working order?
i just would of thought that what could be applied to froyo could just as easily been applied to eclair.
im on neopeek v1.1 eclair right now,im going to see if i can get my data connection for US cell to work with a few tweaks,but ill miss the live wallpapers and gps.
C'est la vie buddy.
lol,now after applying a fix for US cell's data network gps works but no data
rofl,this stuff is killing me! lol
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when i said "actual" i ment one that works
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This phrasing isn't any better.
The projects you've tried are as "actual" as it gets for now.
redpoint73 said:
This phrasing isn't any better.
The projects you've tried are as "actual" as it gets for now.
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omfg,stop being so anal. im sorry i didnt go to college and become a great English and writing major. if anyone can understand my meaning fine,and for anyone that twists their panties in a bunch im sorry. but im here asking for advice/questions/suggestions not trying to create a flame war or trolling. im sorry it insults you.
something i may have over looked is the possibility that other android builds are for gsm and NOT cdma? opps... but idk yet for sure, so far the best going is ([PRJ][GSM&CDMA][CAB&RAR] XDAndroid AOSP Port & Startup Utility [8/30] FIXED NOISE!) and i think ill just be going back to that. keep up the great work guys,looking forward to future updates.
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omfg,stop being so anal. im sorry i didnt go to college and become a great English and writing major. if anyone can understand my meaning fine,and for anyone that twists their panties in a bunch im sorry. but im here asking for advice/questions/suggestions not trying to create a flame war or trolling. im sorry it insults you.
something i may have over looked is the possibility that other android builds are for gsm and NOT cdma? opps... but idk yet for sure, so far the best going is ([PRJ][GSM&CDMA][CAB&RAR] XDAndroid AOSP Port & Startup Utility [8/30] FIXED NOISE!) and i think ill just be going back to that. keep up the great work guys,looking forward to future updates.
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You're... acting like a child dude. Hence the backlash.
Basically you're wanting something that a company would pay a hundred people to code & get 'perfect' - well this project is done by volunteers in their free time.
I'm sure they would appreciate a donation, if you can't contribute in any other way...
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You're... acting like a child dude. Hence the backlash.
Basically you're wanting something that a company would pay a hundred people to code & get 'perfect' - well this project is done by volunteers in their free time.
I'm sure they would appreciate a donation, if you can't contribute in any other way...
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um no,im not looking for perfection, im looking to find out which one if any i have overlooked works best as of current,either by a whole new development,or by updates or tweaks. how am i supposed to help contribute my findings and fixes when i cant get the damn thing as stable as it is on your phone?
when i say "works" i mean that as in what works for you? not as in its got to be 100 percent perfect.
once again let me explain why i started this thread seeing how we seem to not be on the same level of thinking here. ill be as clear as crystal so you dont miss a beat.follow with me here...
froyo from prj android works but has a few glitches here and there (and i applaud their work and contribution to us all and i dont expect it to be 100%),i would just like it run how everyone else has on their tp2 that ive seen on youtube. eclair runs faster and smoother and is more responsive but somethings are not working on TP2. is there any updates on eclair builds? is there anybody that is having lag issues on prj android froyo,or are there some tweaks/settings/ or apps to smooth it out? why has dev shifted from eclair to froyo if eclair was running as smooth as it is,or is it just my phone sucks for some reason and eclair runs faster on it?
im trying to see what other users settings are,other experiences and other alternatives. what "works" for you. not some kind of im asking for a whole re write of the port on my lap. or slave your work to me. but now weve already gone beyond that point now haven't we?
how am i supposed to help contribute my findings and fixes when i cant get the damn thing as stable as it is on your phone?
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I'm not sure what to tell you. I doubt my phone works any better than yours or anyone elses - it's FAR from perfect, as you've found and evidently have accepted.
So wait and be patient for new developments with the project - it's always gotten better & better.
With that said, I can only assume eclair development stopped because I know I'd prefer to run froyo over eclair... You can try throwing a new zImage/modules/rootfs at an eclair build, but no guranatees there.
Did you ever think it could be your SD card? Have you tried switching them out? Have you done a FULL (not quick) format to FAT32?
Froyo runs WAY faster than Eclair EVER did on my handset. There is no doubt about the difference, and thats why development shifted away from a dying and outdated version.
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um no,im not looking for perfection, im looking to find out which one if any i have overlooked works best as of current,either by a whole new development,or by updates or tweaks. how am i supposed to help contribute my findings and fixes when i cant get the damn thing as stable as it is on your phone?
when i say "works" i mean that as in what works for you? not as in its got to be 100 percent perfect.
once again let me explain why i started this thread seeing how we seem to not be on the same level of thinking here. ill be as clear as crystal so you dont miss a beat.follow with me here...
froyo from prj android works but has a few glitches here and there (and i applaud their work and contribution to us all and i dont expect it to be 100%),i would just like it run how everyone else has on their tp2 that ive seen on youtube. eclair runs faster and smoother and is more responsive but somethings are not working on TP2. is there any updates on eclair builds? is there anybody that is having lag issues on prj android froyo,or are there some tweaks/settings/ or apps to smooth it out? why has dev shifted from eclair to froyo if eclair was running as smooth as it is,or is it just my phone sucks for some reason and eclair runs faster on it?
im trying to see what other users settings are,other experiences and other alternatives. what "works" for you. not some kind of im asking for a whole re write of the port on my lap. or slave your work to me. but now weve already gone beyond that point now haven't we?
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the xdandroid port featuring froyo is the best there is atm, nothing else. You can overclock to get "perfection" if you think thats something you are allowed to say. Fact of the matter is that you arent developing these port, nor are you contributing in any way shape or form. If you are looking for a smooth android experience go get an android phone, if you want novelty and pioneering then stick to your TP2 and install xdandroid and stop arguing with other members on this forum.
As for all the questions you asked in the post I quoted, there is a search button you could use so that you dont have to start useless threads.
ambegojapes said:
the xdandroid port featuring froyo is the best there is atm, nothing else.
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What makes you say it's better than Neopeek's? A lot of users say that with the use of the Linux partitioning, that build runs much faster.
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What makes you say it's better than Neopeek's? A lot of users say that with the use of the Linux partitioning, that build runs much faster.
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I personally have tried them both and I just like xdandroid posted by reefer better, so I guess I should have said " in my opinion" rather than just "atm". my bad. I just hate it when people come into forums just to ask questions and to belittle the developers work and not search first themselves. Usually those are the people that are here solely to freeload and not even help with troubleshooting other members problems or post experiences.
this is actually my 10th or more install of prj android froyo and this time for some weird reason it is faster.
yes i did format the sd card the long way, i used gparted live cd as well because i had to set it up for neopeek in 2 partitions . i have two sd cards at 2 and 4 gigs (i swap between) that i just decided to keep a 512mb partition in ext2 for projects like neopeek on both of them.
regardless this time around is giving me a faster experience on froyo, and i didnt edit change anything,just the common install with a soft restart as usual.i am using the blazn overclock i believe it is 716 or 768 mhz.
and of coarse i will keep you posted on any changes or fixes i find.
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the xdandroid port featuring froyo is the best there is atm, nothing else. You can overclock to get "perfection" if you think thats something you are allowed to say. Fact of the matter is that you arent developing these port, nor are you contributing in any way shape or form. If you are looking for a smooth android experience go get an android phone, if you want novelty and pioneering then stick to your TP2 and install xdandroid and stop arguing with other members on this forum.
As for all the questions you asked in the post I quoted, there is a search button you could use so that you dont have to start useless threads.
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I personally have tried them both and I just like xdandroid posted by reefer better, so I guess I should have said " in my opinion" rather than just "atm". my bad. I just hate it when people come into forums just to ask questions and to belittle the developers work and not search first themselves. Usually those are the people that are here solely to freeload and not even help with troubleshooting other members problems or post experiences.
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what is it with you people, didn't mommy and daddy love you enough as a child and teach you if you dont have anything good to say then dont say it all. who is belittling developers? i didnt come in here saying i think some one from this project or that is retarded,as a matter of fact i am grateful for the work these people have done and your trying to belittle me. im explaining what issues im having between different projects and jerks like you are trying to make me look like the bad guy.so comon down from your high horse and actually read what im talking about instead of jumping of the handle and making your self look like a complete jackass. yet once again, you miss the point. if i wanted an android phone i would of got one from the beginning ,i got a tp2 obviously to play around with android,see what it can do,what i can do to it and other reasons. ive got a few dev tools to create software for android i would like to use, so im asking questions, and if you sat a computer for as long as i have researching this with 30 or more tabs open trying to take notes from other threads,you'd be sick of reading all this other crap and post your own experiences/questions too.
and im a little well wiser than to keep stroking your ego,because people like you starve for the attention,otherwise you wouldnt jump into this thread to post your snotty ass comments.so if you wanna keep talking crap instead of offering something insightful to say,go ahead,cause im done dealing with **** heads like you.
Well another thread where you all jump on someone and make him look like an asshole for asking questions. How can you help people when you treat them like ****? I've been working with Linux and Android for a while now and I bet half of you write code that looks like a kid scribbling on the back of a McDonald´s napkin. I tell you what.. Treat people better and you just might have more people to aid in the projects and to the functionally quality. I have been messing with Linux and the open source development scene for years and this is a joke. Like a bunch of kids with computers and a power trip but on the same token you all write code like old people ****
i want to use the tool on this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=888372. i was reading through the t-mobile guide on throttling, and i got to page 9 without finding my answer. there are 39 pages, and i'm sorry if it offends someone that i didnt read through them all. so, my question is, will this tool work on my g2? or will it break it? i have back ups of both the stock rooted g2 rom, and my cyangoen user customized rom on my phone and on my computer. but i'd really rather not wait the ten minutes without internet that is going to happen if this ****s up.
EDIT: Okay so just be clear, this a post, about a tool, for the htc EVO, linked up there, that i want to know, whether it would be safe to use, on my G2
Dude, at least *try* to do your own research before starting a new thread. No more than halfway down on the first page of this subforum is this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=863923
How to defeat data throttling, specifically built for the G2.
moved up to orig post.
jenlow said:
just to be clear, this is a question about a tool, for the htc evo, to remove throttling on sprint. if youd click through, you would see that. what i want to know, is if its safe to use on the g2.
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Why would you think something made specificly for another phone would work on the G2. There is a thread in development for this subject and give instructions on how to defeat the data throttling, if those instructions are to complicated for you to follow then I think you might have to wait for someone here in the G2 forum to come up with a one click solution.
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why does everyone on xda think im retarded? I just want to know, if it would be safe to use. as from what i can tell, it only edits the services.jar file. I did not say i could not follow the directions on how to defeat throttling. I did not say i couldnt handle it. what i did say, was IS IT SAFE TO USE.
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Why would you think something made specificly for another phone would work on the G2. There is a thread in development for this subject and give instructions on how to defeat the data throttling, if those instructions are to complicated for you to follow then I think you might have to wait for someone here in the G2 forum to come up with a one click solution.
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and if reading, correct spelling, and the correct usage of too, to, and two are too complicated for you, you should probably get microsoft word.
jenlow said:
why does everyone on xda think im retarded? I just want to know, if it would be safe to use. as from what i can tell, it only edits the services.jar file. I did not say i could not follow the directions on how to defeat throttling. I did not say i couldnt handle it. what i did say, was IS IT SAFE TO USE.
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Heres an idea, back up YOUR system, nandriod, then download the evo tool and run it, then you will get your awnser, i dont think anyone here is gonna be your beta tester, if its eatting at you that bad to know, then test it and let the rest of us know the big question. Does it work?
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jenlow said:
and if reading, correct spelling, and the correct usage of too, to, and two are too complicated for you, you should probably get microsoft word.
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At least I can follow instructions, and I dont have threads closed. Trust me everyone here is getting tired of you. And the data throttling thread works great for me, learn how to edit the service.jar files and repackage them then you wont have to beg for awnsers.....lol....please help me someone blah,blah,blah...
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why does everyone on xda think im retarded? I just want to know, if it would be safe to use. as from what i can tell, it only edits the services.jar file. I did not say i could not follow the directions on how to defeat throttling. I did not say i couldnt handle it. what i did say, was IS IT SAFE TO USE.
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I misunderstood your original post.
However, here's what I'm thinking (no I didn't try it, I don't care about data throttling, but I did read the OP on both links). Given that this is a services.jar edit, and the threads linked specifically say that each ROM's services.jar file is different (hence the lack of a single solution for all ROMs), I would say that this is *probably* not a good idea to use across devices.
As mentioned above though, simply do a nandroid and then try it yourself - as long as you can boot into recovery, you can restore the nandroid if it doesn't and then the only thing you've wasted is ~15-20 minutes of your own time.
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I misunderstood your original post.
However, here's what I'm thinking (no I didn't try it, I don't care about data throttling, but I did read the OP on both links). Given that this is a services.jar edit, and the threads linked specifically say that each ROM's services.jar file is different (hence the lack of a single solution for all ROMs), I would say that this is *probably* not a good idea to use across devices.
As mentioned above though, simply do a nandroid and then try it yourself - as long as you can boot into recovery, you can restore the nandroid if it doesn't and then the only thing you've wasted is ~15-20 minutes of your own time.
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what im going to try, as per a message from a user, is to use the t-mobile services.jar in the zip, an edited version, and use it that way.
the reason i did ask, is that as my phone is the only source of internet i have atm, i dont want to break it permanently, or to a point where i need to have the internet to fix it.
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At least I can follow instructions, and I dont have threads closed. Trust me everyone here is getting tired of you. And the data throttling thread works great for me, learn how to edit the service.jar files and repackage them then you wont have to beg for awnsers.....lol....please help me someone blah,blah,blah...
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you can follow instructions eh? well so can i. i rooted my device, installed cyanogen on it, ive edited several other things on my phone, as per the instructions of others. Notice how i asked before i actually went through with the update? i figured hey, there's a lot of guys more knowledgeable than me on here, why not see if someone knows the answer before i end up possibly having to come back here asking for help.
But then there are retards like you. My major, is computer science. my speciality is non unix-based programming. linux is a fun little project for me, not my life. that being said, when someone out there has much more experience in an area than me, i'm not afraid to ask for help. Someone who actually understands what i am asking, like the guy above me, and the nice guy who pm'ed me knows that i'm not asking a stupid question.
So here is a little quote to live by, "There are stupid questions. But if I(jenlow) am asking a question, you can guarantee it isnt because i didnt simply miss something.
now troll, crawl into your little hole, and keep extorting the patience of those that cross your bridge.
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you can follow instructions eh? well so can i. i rooted my device, installed cyanogen on it, ive edited several other things on my phone, as per the instructions of others. Notice how i asked before i actually went through with the update? i figured hey, there's a lot of guys more knowledgeable than me on here, why not see if someone knows the answer before i end up possibly having to come back here asking for help.
But then there are retards like you. My major, is computer science. my speciality is non unix-based programming. linux is a fun little project for me, not my life. that being said, when someone out there has much more experience in an area than me, i'm not afraid to ask for help. Someone who actually understands what i am asking, like the guy above me, and the nice guy who pm'ed me knows that i'm not asking a stupid question.
So here is a little quote to live by, "There are stupid questions. But if I(jenlow) am asking a question, you can guarantee it isnt because i didnt simply miss something.
now troll, crawl into your little hole, and keep extorting the patience of those that cross your bridge.
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And your phone is your only source of internet....LMAO
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joemm said:
And your phone is your only source of internet....LMAO
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yeah, because i'm going to school. and i just moved into my own apartment. And since mommy and daddy dont foot my bills, i'm waiting on internet until i get paid.
jenlow said:
yeah, because i'm going to school. and i just moved into my own apartment. And since mommy and daddy dont foot my bills, i'm waiting on internet until i get paid.
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I think I hear a violin playing......
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I think i hear a troll growing, oh ****, sorry, i forgot i was feeding one. Peace.
in case anyone competent wants to check this out, here is what i have done so far. i did not flash the original tool, but i did open the tool up and replace the services.jar with an edited version using the cyanogen cm6.1.1 stable releases copy of services.jar repacked it, and tried to flash. I got ~"trying to update>opening update>update failed (bad)" in the clockwork recovery language. i didnt edit anything about the tool other than the version of services.jar inside of it.
the version i used from cyanogen, i edited following the how to defeat data throttling instructions with the windows script.
and lol to the guy who rated this thread one star. ONE GUY. ha ha hahahahahahah.
Well here's my two cents on 2 topics...
On topic : I think making a zip file for instantaneous data cap removal would be great. I did the data throttle removal when it first came about to the G2 but the kicker is that I really dislike cyanogen roms and reverted back to stock shortly after. I forget just exactly how to repack a zip like this but messed with it in Flippys overclocking zip to make my own 1.9ghz update.zip a while back. Hopefully I can make one if Jenlow doesn't figure it out before me. I personally find it to be a good overall question that is sprouting some good ideas
I mean the possibility of a zip format throttle remover would benefit the entire community so why fight about it?
Off topic : Soooooo about this internet.... I have a friend who is paying $25/mo for a 1mbit connection in his apartment. I used my speedtest app in his living room. I got roughly 9.6mbits down. (Who the hell cares about up speeds though lol)
I pay exactly the same price he does for a lan as I do for my data and it is nearly 10x faster. In cases like that, it's more than worth it to use your phone as your source for internet.
/debate
The only troll I see in this thread is the OP; otherwise, said OP would have searched the "G2 and Desire Z Android Development" section and/or just click on the second-to-last link of my signature. Considering that I must've flashed a modified system.jar to my own phone at least two dozen times over various ROMs (including the current GingerVillain), I'd say it's safe.
after latest the froyo update i found my phone to lag considerably so i did some research into rooting as i have heard it mentioned time and time again. my phone is working a lot smoother now.
i have to admit this is completely new to me so im not sure how to get the best out of my rooted device. can anyone give me any tips of how to get the best out of it bearing in mind im not the most tech literate. i had read about a lot of people installing OCLF which i have done then testing perfomance on quadrant. I have read about some ppl scoring over 2000 on this but i only scored 1890. Im not sure what this score means but is there any reason for that and are there ways of improving the performance.
Also what is the easiest way of clearing out idle files which are wasting space in the background. is there an app to help do this and if so how do you know which files are safe to delete.
are there any apps you recommend - so far ive downloaded adfree, apptoSD, OCLF, titanium back up, start up cleaner.
Quadrant means nothing, smoothness is more important than score in a single benchmarking application. Installing a custom rom based on js3 or jpy would be your best bet, with a custom kernel and voodoo or speedmod lagfix.
Sorry I haven't got time to explain further but that's because I'm in bed on my phone! Hope this helps!
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thanks for your reply. Im absolutely clueless when it comes to roms. How do you know what rom to choose and what differences do they make to the phone compared to the existing rom?
will they prevent you from updating to other android systems in the future etc?
sorry for not having a clue
Anyone?
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There are a handful of great ROMS to choose from.
Darkyy's is a popular one and very fast and very stable.
It has its own thread so poke around and you'll find it.
There are pretty thorough instructions for how to install it there just read the instructions carefully.
People are generally very friendly and willing to help so you can always post questions and cries for help there as well.
That's just one ROM and one opinion tho.
With flashing you need a little patience and have to do some research. Almost all questions you might have have likely been asked and answered before.
Who knows? You may find no need to flash anything but OFC.... except maybe recovery and a lagfix.
Good luck.
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