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cyanogenmod 6 or damadge control

My friend cannot decide between the two he says it feels the same. can you guys tell me the difference besides sense and froyo.

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each one has it's own link. You'll have to read each one to see the difference.

I think this is a valid question as these are the two best roms out there and I am trying to decide myself. I think I am going to go with the latest Cyanogenmod nightly. There does not appear to be a lot of information on the damage control due to the limited downloads.
I've only used damage 3.2 up until this point but its time for a change.

well id go with CM6 seeing as how damage is requiring a "donation" in order for you to use the froyo damage....dont know how much of a "donation" it is when its a requirement....
however the intelligent answer would be use CM6 right now since you don't have to pay for it and when damage 3.5 becomes available for free try that...

bugmenever said:
I think this is a valid question as these are the two best roms out there and I am trying to decide myself. I think I am going to go with the latest Cyanogenmod nightly. There does not appear to be a lot of information on the damage control due to the limited downloads.
I've only used damage 3.2 up until this point but its time for a change.
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This is of course your opinion. I believe Fresh is the best Rom out right now. And my opinion is equally meaningless. This is not a major life choice...
I understand practical threads dealing with problems and technicalities but these threads which either ask for an opinion as if it were fact (or people responding with their opinion as fact) or asking about things which are easily found out on your own by taking two minutes to read seem utterly pointless and clutter the forum.
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Yeah, tell your "friend" to just try different ROMs and see which is better. If you don't like one, wipe and flash another. Sorry . . . if your "friend" doesn't like one. . . .

DC 3.5 has a lot of issues. CM would be your best bet for froyo. For based off of stock you will probably want Fresh or DC.
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If you want Froyo, these are probably the top 2 canidates. It will more than likely come down to Sense or no Sense. CM6 is a bit farther in dev than DC 3.5 but both still have their issues(like every Froyo rom for our phones). Most of the issues are similar across the board. I've run every CM nightly, RC1, and both DC betas. RC1 is the least buggy, but DC's beta 3 will def be much smoother. If you're happy with your current 2.1 rom's speed and stability, stay with it. If you wanna see what your phone is capable of with a few nuances on the way, try out a Froyo rom. The devs have just about everything working. You can always NAND back.

my friend decided in CM 6. thanks guys.

I loved DC 3.2.3 it was smooth and practicly error less. With that said I jumped to RC1 CM6 and I am loving it. 2.2 and I am not going back. One thing I will say is that CM6 has its settings more integrated into the rom and The old DC had an app to adjust the rom specific settings. For now my choice is CM6.
I know someone mentioned something about donating. Once you choose a rom you like I say donate and be thankful. I know a lot of us spend a few dollars here and there on apps in the market so whats a 5 or 10 dollar donation for a rom.

Honestly, both RoMs are great and both have some of the same Froyo issues.
I tired them both, and I actually went back to 2.1.
Froyo may be great and all that, but I can't notice much of a difference in anything I do on my phone versus 2.1.
All the people dying for more FPS, MFLOPS(whatever that does) must play a lot of game or something because the only way I know I'm getting more fps or mflops is if I run an app specifically designed to test it.
Not at all bashing Froyo because I'm sure it is amazing, just that the Devs here at XDA have made the 2.1 roms so fast and smooth that I can't tell a difference between them and froyo. For me, the battery life and virtually bugless 2.1 roms beat the 2.2 roms for now. Tell your friend to play around with a few, make a nand on one he likes and go from there.

Freelancerx said:
well id go with CM6 seeing as how damage is requiring a "donation" in order for you to use the froyo damage....dont know how much of a "donation" it is when its a requirement....
however the intelligent answer would be use CM6 right now since you don't have to pay for it and when damage 3.5 becomes available for free try that...
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They don't require a donation. He was sending the beta out to anyone who had ever donated to him, ever, including during the Hero ROMs.
People just donated to him now so they could get an early look at it. It wasn't quite up to TrevE and damageless release standards, so they let the people who donated beta test it. You could seriously send them a dollar and they would let you test it. When it's ready for prime time, it will be free.
I've a nandroid of both CM6 and DC 3.5, and they are both great ROMs. I go back and forth pretty much as each one is updated, and it's hard to choose one over the other. I personally like sense, and it doesn't slow Froyo down one bit, as both ROMs test almost identical in quadrant, stdev, and linpack.
When I use CM6, I miss sense. I just like it. I know, I'm in the minority, whatever. When I use DC 3.5, I miss the ultra customization that CM6 allows for, right from the menus.
I'm still undecided, but it will probably be DC in the end, just because I do like sense so much, and from what I've seen, there aren't any drawbacks to it, at least in DC 3.5.

android woes on touch pro 2,which android to use?

i used to have a htc vogue (aka htc touch vx 6900 US Cellular) that would run android eclair but slowly. i was due for an upgrade and picked up the more powerful touch pro 2 specifically to run android smoother. i love the dual boot between a nice custom win mo rom and android,however, ive noticed there isnt nearly as many diffrent android developers trying to port or whatever the term is to get it to work on the touch pro 2 like there is with win mobile roms. project android froyo ([PRJ][GSM&CDMA][CAB&RAR] XDAndroid AOSP Port & Startup Utility [8/30] FIXED NOISE!) has the most working stuff but even on a overclock runs like crap,lagging and not running certain apps. the klinux eclair 2.1 sense UI is great but locks up,lags,no sounds and has no internet. neopeek's eclair runs the best out of them all,super fast and responsive but no internet,no live wall paper and no sounds.
can anyone point me in the right direction of a actual android project or update that can bring me as close to a functioning android OS that will work. eclair looks promising on speed,but there is to much that is still broke on it. thx

outlawbiker said:
can anyone point me in the right direction of a actual android project
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Are you implying the existing projects are not "actual"?
People have put a lot of time and effort into these projects, and that type of comment is not going to get you a lot of love on this forum.

redpoint73 said:
Are you implying the existing projects are not "actual"?
People have put a lot of time and effort into these projects, and that type of comment is not going to get you a lot of love on this forum.
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when i said "actual" i ment one that works, im not trying to criticize any of the developers here or not be appreciative. im just looking to have android run as smooth as everyone else does on their tp2.

TP2 Development
I am experiencing the same situation as you, but understand the TP2 is still under heavy development. Now that sound is working I would imagine stability and other features will be addressed in the next few weeks. If you want a phone that will work perfectly with Android switch to the HTC Desire that US Cellular just put out a few weeks back, it ships with Android. You can buy yourself out of the contract pro-rated for the time you have left. You cannot expect a phone that ships with Windows Mobile to run Android flawlessly. If you want to increase progress you can download the development tools and help, or you can post a bounty for items you would like addressed. You could also download the 6/20 version of MightyROM and enjoy a stable WM6.5 build. Good luck!

They all work, just to varying degrees.
([PRJ][GSM&CDMA][CAB&RAR] XDAndroid AOSP Port & Startup Utility [8/30] FIXED NOISE!) has the most working stuff
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That's probably the best build right there. If you were expecting Android to run flawlessly on your fancy new phone, you are very, very mistaken.
If you want Android to run like it does on Android-specific devices... then you probably should've bought an Android device.

yea, i know its still under dev, but its like i have to choose between lag on froyo builds but almost everything works,or eclair builds that run as smooth as silk but miss out on my data connection,gps,ect ect.
ive just spent so much time into studying everything into android development and installation/updates ect ect and i still haven't even scratched the surface and it becomes frustrating after a full month of installing and deleting and back and forth testing,trust me, i know we all do the same here,but my eyes are burning from reading so many forums/topics/guides and i figure ill just ask if anyone has got a few of the bugs i have mentioned out of the way.
i can appreciate that somethings dont work cause thats just the way it is,but the kicker here is that the froyo build has almost everything working correctly, not to go back right not and look at the topic,but the only thing thats not working is camera,battery and bluetooth i think? and no big deal i dont need it anyways right now, but why cant i get an eclair build in the same working order?
i just would of thought that what could be applied to froyo could just as easily been applied to eclair.
im on neopeek v1.1 eclair right now,im going to see if i can get my data connection for US cell to work with a few tweaks,but ill miss the live wallpapers and gps.

C'est la vie buddy.

lol,now after applying a fix for US cell's data network gps works but no data
rofl,this stuff is killing me! lol

outlawbiker said:
when i said "actual" i ment one that works
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This phrasing isn't any better.
The projects you've tried are as "actual" as it gets for now.

redpoint73 said:
This phrasing isn't any better.
The projects you've tried are as "actual" as it gets for now.
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omfg,stop being so anal. im sorry i didnt go to college and become a great English and writing major. if anyone can understand my meaning fine,and for anyone that twists their panties in a bunch im sorry. but im here asking for advice/questions/suggestions not trying to create a flame war or trolling. im sorry it insults you.
something i may have over looked is the possibility that other android builds are for gsm and NOT cdma? opps... but idk yet for sure, so far the best going is ([PRJ][GSM&CDMA][CAB&RAR] XDAndroid AOSP Port & Startup Utility [8/30] FIXED NOISE!) and i think ill just be going back to that. keep up the great work guys,looking forward to future updates.

outlawbiker said:
omfg,stop being so anal. im sorry i didnt go to college and become a great English and writing major. if anyone can understand my meaning fine,and for anyone that twists their panties in a bunch im sorry. but im here asking for advice/questions/suggestions not trying to create a flame war or trolling. im sorry it insults you.
something i may have over looked is the possibility that other android builds are for gsm and NOT cdma? opps... but idk yet for sure, so far the best going is ([PRJ][GSM&CDMA][CAB&RAR] XDAndroid AOSP Port & Startup Utility [8/30] FIXED NOISE!) and i think ill just be going back to that. keep up the great work guys,looking forward to future updates.
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You're... acting like a child dude. Hence the backlash.
Basically you're wanting something that a company would pay a hundred people to code & get 'perfect' - well this project is done by volunteers in their free time.
I'm sure they would appreciate a donation, if you can't contribute in any other way...

arrrghhh said:
You're... acting like a child dude. Hence the backlash.
Basically you're wanting something that a company would pay a hundred people to code & get 'perfect' - well this project is done by volunteers in their free time.
I'm sure they would appreciate a donation, if you can't contribute in any other way...
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um no,im not looking for perfection, im looking to find out which one if any i have overlooked works best as of current,either by a whole new development,or by updates or tweaks. how am i supposed to help contribute my findings and fixes when i cant get the damn thing as stable as it is on your phone?
when i say "works" i mean that as in what works for you? not as in its got to be 100 percent perfect.
once again let me explain why i started this thread seeing how we seem to not be on the same level of thinking here. ill be as clear as crystal so you dont miss a beat.follow with me here...
froyo from prj android works but has a few glitches here and there (and i applaud their work and contribution to us all and i dont expect it to be 100%),i would just like it run how everyone else has on their tp2 that ive seen on youtube. eclair runs faster and smoother and is more responsive but somethings are not working on TP2. is there any updates on eclair builds? is there anybody that is having lag issues on prj android froyo,or are there some tweaks/settings/ or apps to smooth it out? why has dev shifted from eclair to froyo if eclair was running as smooth as it is,or is it just my phone sucks for some reason and eclair runs faster on it?
im trying to see what other users settings are,other experiences and other alternatives. what "works" for you. not some kind of im asking for a whole re write of the port on my lap. or slave your work to me. but now weve already gone beyond that point now haven't we?

how am i supposed to help contribute my findings and fixes when i cant get the damn thing as stable as it is on your phone?
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I'm not sure what to tell you. I doubt my phone works any better than yours or anyone elses - it's FAR from perfect, as you've found and evidently have accepted.
So wait and be patient for new developments with the project - it's always gotten better & better.
With that said, I can only assume eclair development stopped because I know I'd prefer to run froyo over eclair... You can try throwing a new zImage/modules/rootfs at an eclair build, but no guranatees there.

Did you ever think it could be your SD card? Have you tried switching them out? Have you done a FULL (not quick) format to FAT32?
Froyo runs WAY faster than Eclair EVER did on my handset. There is no doubt about the difference, and thats why development shifted away from a dying and outdated version.

outlawbiker said:
um no,im not looking for perfection, im looking to find out which one if any i have overlooked works best as of current,either by a whole new development,or by updates or tweaks. how am i supposed to help contribute my findings and fixes when i cant get the damn thing as stable as it is on your phone?
when i say "works" i mean that as in what works for you? not as in its got to be 100 percent perfect.
once again let me explain why i started this thread seeing how we seem to not be on the same level of thinking here. ill be as clear as crystal so you dont miss a beat.follow with me here...
froyo from prj android works but has a few glitches here and there (and i applaud their work and contribution to us all and i dont expect it to be 100%),i would just like it run how everyone else has on their tp2 that ive seen on youtube. eclair runs faster and smoother and is more responsive but somethings are not working on TP2. is there any updates on eclair builds? is there anybody that is having lag issues on prj android froyo,or are there some tweaks/settings/ or apps to smooth it out? why has dev shifted from eclair to froyo if eclair was running as smooth as it is,or is it just my phone sucks for some reason and eclair runs faster on it?
im trying to see what other users settings are,other experiences and other alternatives. what "works" for you. not some kind of im asking for a whole re write of the port on my lap. or slave your work to me. but now weve already gone beyond that point now haven't we?
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the xdandroid port featuring froyo is the best there is atm, nothing else. You can overclock to get "perfection" if you think thats something you are allowed to say. Fact of the matter is that you arent developing these port, nor are you contributing in any way shape or form. If you are looking for a smooth android experience go get an android phone, if you want novelty and pioneering then stick to your TP2 and install xdandroid and stop arguing with other members on this forum.
As for all the questions you asked in the post I quoted, there is a search button you could use so that you dont have to start useless threads.

ambegojapes said:
the xdandroid port featuring froyo is the best there is atm, nothing else.
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What makes you say it's better than Neopeek's? A lot of users say that with the use of the Linux partitioning, that build runs much faster.

manekineko said:
What makes you say it's better than Neopeek's? A lot of users say that with the use of the Linux partitioning, that build runs much faster.
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I personally have tried them both and I just like xdandroid posted by reefer better, so I guess I should have said " in my opinion" rather than just "atm". my bad. I just hate it when people come into forums just to ask questions and to belittle the developers work and not search first themselves. Usually those are the people that are here solely to freeload and not even help with troubleshooting other members problems or post experiences.

this is actually my 10th or more install of prj android froyo and this time for some weird reason it is faster.
yes i did format the sd card the long way, i used gparted live cd as well because i had to set it up for neopeek in 2 partitions . i have two sd cards at 2 and 4 gigs (i swap between) that i just decided to keep a 512mb partition in ext2 for projects like neopeek on both of them.
regardless this time around is giving me a faster experience on froyo, and i didnt edit change anything,just the common install with a soft restart as usual.i am using the blazn overclock i believe it is 716 or 768 mhz.
and of coarse i will keep you posted on any changes or fixes i find.

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the xdandroid port featuring froyo is the best there is atm, nothing else. You can overclock to get "perfection" if you think thats something you are allowed to say. Fact of the matter is that you arent developing these port, nor are you contributing in any way shape or form. If you are looking for a smooth android experience go get an android phone, if you want novelty and pioneering then stick to your TP2 and install xdandroid and stop arguing with other members on this forum.
As for all the questions you asked in the post I quoted, there is a search button you could use so that you dont have to start useless threads.
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I personally have tried them both and I just like xdandroid posted by reefer better, so I guess I should have said " in my opinion" rather than just "atm". my bad. I just hate it when people come into forums just to ask questions and to belittle the developers work and not search first themselves. Usually those are the people that are here solely to freeload and not even help with troubleshooting other members problems or post experiences.
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what is it with you people, didn't mommy and daddy love you enough as a child and teach you if you dont have anything good to say then dont say it all. who is belittling developers? i didnt come in here saying i think some one from this project or that is retarded,as a matter of fact i am grateful for the work these people have done and your trying to belittle me. im explaining what issues im having between different projects and jerks like you are trying to make me look like the bad guy.so comon down from your high horse and actually read what im talking about instead of jumping of the handle and making your self look like a complete jackass. yet once again, you miss the point. if i wanted an android phone i would of got one from the beginning ,i got a tp2 obviously to play around with android,see what it can do,what i can do to it and other reasons. ive got a few dev tools to create software for android i would like to use, so im asking questions, and if you sat a computer for as long as i have researching this with 30 or more tabs open trying to take notes from other threads,you'd be sick of reading all this other crap and post your own experiences/questions too.
and im a little well wiser than to keep stroking your ego,because people like you starve for the attention,otherwise you wouldnt jump into this thread to post your snotty ass comments.so if you wanna keep talking crap instead of offering something insightful to say,go ahead,cause im done dealing with **** heads like you.

Well another thread where you all jump on someone and make him look like an asshole for asking questions. How can you help people when you treat them like ****? I've been working with Linux and Android for a while now and I bet half of you write code that looks like a kid scribbling on the back of a McDonald´s napkin. I tell you what.. Treat people better and you just might have more people to aid in the projects and to the functionally quality. I have been messing with Linux and the open source development scene for years and this is a joke. Like a bunch of kids with computers and a power trip but on the same token you all write code like old people ****

[Q] What ROM To Use?

I am ready to dive in with the Unrevoked3 method to root my Desire, I take it I will then be able to load a custom ROM, however I'm a little overwhelmed by the choices. Is there a comprehensive list somewhere or can someone make any suggestions? I'm after stability and reliability although I am interested in what the whole ROM scene has to offer.
I presume that all my paid apps will still work as well?

i would stick to the rom you are using because if you have to ask that question, you haven't done enough research, if there was a single answer to what rom to use, then there wouldn't be so many around
so the final answer is, stick to the stock froyo that you've got already, there's nothing to be gained from other roms considering you didn't specify what it is you were looking for

Moved to Q&A as not development

bamboo12 said:
you haven't done enough research .. you didn't specify what it is you were looking for
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I thought I said I'm after stability and reliability, and also app2sd+ in particular. Does that help?
Yes I am doing research, this question is part of the 'research' process. Thanks for your help.

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I thought I said I'm after stability and reliability, and also app2sd+ in particular. Does that help?
Yes I am doing research, this question is part of the 'research' process. Thanks for your help.
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Your way of research really puzzles me looking at the bold parts in your OP below.
I take it I will then be able to load a custom ROM, however I'm a little overwhelmed by the choices. Is there a comprehensive list somewhere or can someone make any suggestions? I'm after stability and reliability although
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- Yes, you should be able to flash a custom rom, if you can follow the instructions.
- There is no comprehensive list, the number of rom's and the changes are to large to keep it up to date, or do you offer to create one
- suggestions will tell you to use rom a, b, s, or z, depending on the users preferences. The only thing you can do is to read the rom description, and start skimming and following the rom's which description you liked.
A thing you left out, and what is normally mentioned in a question like this, do you prefer sense or non-sense?
To finish: I use LeeDroiD V2.1 and I am happy with it, it's stable / reliable, and it's Sense based.
Now just wait for the OD, DeFrost, Pays, Cyanogen (just some examples) and other rom users to give there opinion,
and then decide

^^ pretty much what he said!!
No one can tell you what to use, only give their opinions. Ultimately you'll have to read the threads and just try the ROMs until you find one you're happy with. I've gone back to stock as it does what I need it to

i just love when dudes get all condescending as if they were never overwhelmed when they first started out. first they yell at you and infer that you're an idiot and then 4 posts later, they wind up actually helping.
i guess it's like hazing for nerds.
seriously though, i'm gonna answer all your questions right here and now:
go with CM6. then download another one and try it. then download another one and try it. and then... come back here and tell us what your opinion is. you know, pay it forward and don't become one of those condescending dorks after you have figured it all out.
that is all. i'm going bowling with your father...

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i just love when dudes get all condescending as if they were never overwhelmed when they first started out. first they yell at you and infer that you're an idiot and then 4 posts later, they wind up actually helping.
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Well, when you don't get out much and you don't have many friends.. We should be more sympathetic to 'special needs' people.
Anyway, I'm on AuraxTsense now (check my sig for full details). I like the concept of undervolting for extended battery life, however before I dive in to ROMs, what can cause damage? I will avoid overclocking ROMs for that reason, anything else to watch out for?
What's the advantage of Cyanogen over others? I also read that Modaco ROMs are designed with stability in mind.
Is there any way to back up settings to restore when switching ROMs? Or should I just back each one up with all my settings and use that?

In the last week or so I've tried at least
- Cyanogen
- PirateRUM
- Some PAYS Sense one
- OpenDesire
- ShadowSense
+ another 1 or 2 I forget now
with Alex-V's one still to try.
The main thing I'd say is:
- Do you want Sense?
- Do you want GApps and other fluff preinstalled?
Try them and see...
Personally
- I like OD but it needs the Sense music player
- CM has no market, and I have not worked out how cutdown it's GApps package yet to remove fluff

I have been using cyanogenmod 6 for a few days now.
And im not going anywere anytime soon
However, like they say, try em all

Aurax is rocking my boat right now although struggling to work out how to install Maps..
What do you like about Cyanogen?

The ui is good. It just works. Try out for yourself. Painless to install. Ohh and the battery performance is alot better then the stock rom
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Try MildWild V-4.8 Based on Oxygen 2.3.2 it's gr8 ROM

faraon83 said:
Try MildWild V-4.8 Based on Oxygen 2.3.2 it's gr8 ROM
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???
Wow you just dug up a 2yr old thread!!
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He needs 10 posts...
Dude... reply to the newer threads. At least november 2012.

[Q] What happened to Calkulin's, Fresh's and Damage Control's ROM developement

Its been awhile since I have seen anything new I can only assume that they are working on other devices. I would love to see a new ROM for any of these.
p.s. No offense to the other Dev's as I do appreciate everyone's hard work.

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Its been awhile since I have seen anything new I can only assume that they are working on other devices. I would love to see a new ROM for any of these.
p.s. No offense to the other Dev's as I do appreciate everyone's hard work.
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I'm assuming you're taking over for them since you posted this in the Dev section? Please post up some of your work so far and the GPL information. Good luck!

If it starts with [Q], probably goes in Q&A, or ask in their respective threads.

Or you guys could just answer the poor blokes question instead of doing the mods job. Plus this question is asking about the DEVELOPMENT of ROMS. Sounds like the right section to me don't ya think?
Im really not sure why it has been a while since they have had anything new come out, something I have noticed is that unless there is something really worth while they wont update their roms, why fix something that isn't broken?
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husker91 said:
Or you guys could just answer the poor blokes question instead of doing the mods job. Plus this question is asking about the DEVELOPMENT of ROMS. Sounds like the right section to me don't ya think?
Im really not sure why it has been a while since they have had anything new come out, something I have noticed is that unless there is something really worth while they wont update their roms, why fix something that isn't broken?
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No its not it belongs in the Q&A or general section

husker91 said:
Or you guys could just answer the poor blokes question instead of doing the mods job. Plus this question is asking about the DEVELOPMENT of ROMS. Sounds like the right section to me don't ya think?
Im really not sure why it has been a while since they have had anything new come out, something I have noticed is that unless there is something really worth while they wont update their roms, why fix something that isn't broken?
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I agree that people need to be a bit more user friendly around here, no need to get snarky. BUT this is a DEV only section and this type of question (even if it is about DEV work really doesn't belong here).
There is nothing wrong with ONE person trying to help the person but instructing them that this is not the right place for their post. That is not playing the role of a MOD, that is part of being in a community. If this type of thing wasn't a problem the MODS would not have made the 10 post requirement before you can even post here.

Honestly there hasn't been any new developments. In my mind as it stands EVO's are done. Unless Sprint/HTC release something new there is nothing left to develop. The ROMS are zipaligned, PNG Optimized, Battery scripted, etc. I have some work I could do one the graphics but ROM wise I don't see anything earth shattering on the horizon.

Damage Control i believe is dead for now (i haven't seen anything on another phone)
Fresh i believe flipz has just been busy and really his rom is working and works well and there havent been any major ground breaking updates that need to be addressed. since fresh is a non themed rom it is a little harder to constantly provide updates when there isnt much to change in the build itself.
Evio - see fresh for most of it.
A lot of the sense based roms that are updated constantly are themed roms which gives them a lot more to play with. they can tweak the look etc even when there arent any major new developmental releases. I am in no way saying this is all that is done and there is nothing wrong with it being done just explaining my belief on why some roms are updated much more often then others. With the Evo fast approaching the one year mark you will probably see much fewer major updates coming and much fewer major developments.
This is my personal opinion and is not fact. I base my opinions off what i have seen on the devs twitter streams and own sites. hopefully it provides more answers.

When all things sense die, you can always switch to aosp lol. Its updated with the latest and greatest. I prefer sense my self but as zone said; most sense roms are maxed out, there's nothing left to do to them.
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As soon as the System Dump/ROM leaks out for the Evo 3D, they will have something new to play with.

I never understood why people keep asking for updates to stable ROMs that are based on Sprint OTA releases, like Fresh and Myn's Twopointwo. I read both of those threads, and every couple pages, you get people asking about new versions or updates to complete, working, stable ROMs. What do people expect?
If you want new features like Sense 2.0 or Gingerbread, don't flash a ROM that is based on OTA updates.

i agree, i think the sense roms are at a standstill until an official 2.3/sense 2.0 build comes down the pipe from HTC/Sprint. (assuming the Evo gets sense 2.0/android 2.3)
i love calk's work, EViO is a great rom. i only switched because i fell in love with CM7

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Or you guys could just answer the poor blokes question instead of doing the mods job. Plus this question is asking about the DEVELOPMENT of ROMS. Sounds like the right section to me don't ya think?
Im really not sure why it has been a while since they have had anything new come out, something I have noticed is that unless there is something really worth while they wont update their roms, why fix something that isn't broken?
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+1 .........

Its looking more and more likely that we arent going to get 2.3 on our Evo's..
I also assumed thats why we havent seen any updates.. There isnt an official 2.3 Sense Evo rom to tear apart..

hopefully there enjoying life and not by a computer every night thinking about updates. But this goes to a deeper question that i think is starting to spark up is everybody tired of there evo's already ? U can flash so many roms until u flash out but at the end of the day a evo is still a evo

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No its not it belongs in the Q&A or general section
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I Don't know... so far a lot of the [ROMS] that I've seen are just re-skinned versions of everything else out there, shouldn't most of those go in the Themes and Apps section as well, if we are going to try and get technical ?
I wouldn't technically call half of these ROMS true "Development" but merely Themes, which there is another section for as well. But if you want to get technical:
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This does not actually lay any guidelines as to what is allowed (actually, this was a rather lazy post in regards to setting guidelines (hey, I can't watch people, I'm a Mod, report them if the entire community comes to a consensus as to what should not be here, we will leave it up to the teeming masses, I mean, it worked well enough for Russia after the bolshevik revolution right? Aren't teeming masses of people able to find out what is in the best interest of everyone else that is not them?), what constitutes strictly development, and what constitutes Q&A if it pertains to Development.
It was a valid question about development. People may or may not upgrade their phones and ditch Evo's based on a developer of ROMS as well.

Don't forget Vaelpak
If like myself, one were to prefer some of the Sense elements over the AOSP versions, but also like the obvious increase in performance that comes from the AOSP's lighter weight, don't forget the latest Vaelpak.
Sense ROM-based, but with most of Sense removed. I get my preferred Sense Dialer, VVM, etc, and thanks to Fancy Widget I get a Sense-like clock with more and better functionality. 4G, HDMI, everything works.
There is no perfect ROM, of course it all comes down to preference and opinion anyway. But if anyone is looking for something unique and extremely functional, this is a very interesting option. I flashed his 3.2 about a week ago just to check it out and have not had a reason to leave it...except to flash to the GB ROMs of course!

As was said above, until official gingerbread is out (which we heard was a yes).....don't worry, there will be continued stuff as most of us got screwed with sprint changing the premium upgrades. 2.2 is maxxed out.
Cooler than your EVO

ljohnson1981 said:
Its been awhile since I have seen anything new I can only assume that they are working on other devices. I would love to see a new ROM for any of these.
p.s. No offense to the other Dev's as I do appreciate everyone's hard work.
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LIFE gets in the way sometimes man Calk just had a new baby girl so that is WAY more important than spending all day and night on roms for people to just complain, Damageless was disrespected more than anybody i have ever seen on here sheesh if i was him i would never come back and give time, and Fresh's wife was having some health issues i believe so he had to take care of her.

guyver2077 said:
Its looking more and more likely that we arent going to get 2.3 on our Evo's..
I also assumed thats why we havent seen any updates.. There isnt an official 2.3 Sense Evo rom to tear apart..
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The EVO is getting 2.3 w/Sense, but not until it comes out on a new flagship phone (E3D). I wouldn't expect it until July or August.

[Q] Best kernel for cm 7

im sure this has been posted a thousand fold, but i wanted to post one for the personalization of it. What would you say its the best overall kernel for cm7.2. im about to have a crack at using tiamat with it since it was my personal fav on my incredible. any suggestions?

I like aeroevans 8bfs kernel. His 8 cfs is good too but idk the difference really. His ics v9 kernel supposedly works with gingerbread but I haven't tried it

The v9 kernel works really well with cm7. I would really recommend using it. Battery life is much improved.

SynysterSilence said:
im sure this has been posted a thousand fold, but i wanted to post one for the personalization of it. What would you say its the best overall kernel for cm7.2. im about to have a crack at using tiamat with it since it was my personal fav on my incredible. any suggestions?
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If you are sure its been asked, why didn't you search for it. Then the next thing is, test for yourself. Every phone responds different. I'm using AOKP with aeros newest kernel and my phone is flipping amazing, but my wife has lockups and a whole lot of other crap wrong.. it also depends on your governer and use that you do with it. Seriously, this is just another pointless thread that could've been in one of the already open ones...
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If you are sure its been asked, why didn't you search for it. Then the next thing is, test for yourself. Every phone responds different. I'm using AOKP with aeros newest kernel and my phone is flipping amazing, but my wife has lockups and a whole lot of other crap wrong.. it also depends on your governer and use that you do with it. Seriously, this is just another pointless thread that could've been in one of the already open ones...
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I Dont understand what the problem is. He posted in the correct section, was polite and simply asked for our opinions. Kernels do change, with updates and whatnot while others get left behind. simply searching and grave digging an old thread doesnt really change anything. Just dont want this place to become a thread-prison.
As for the kernels, tiamat hasnt been updated for our phone in ages, a lot of stuff has changed for GB since their last update. JDK kernel is in the same boat. This leaves the various versions of Aero's kernel essentially, i'd go with .8bfs or the v9 ics kernel, which i'm currently using with no problems.

Zax_Was_Here said:
I Dont understand what the problem is. He posted in the correct section, was polite and simply asked for our opinions. Kernels do change, with updates and whatnot while others get left behind. simply searching and grave digging an old thread doesnt really change anything. Just dont want this place to become a thread-prison.
As for the kernels, tiamat hasnt been updated for our phone in ages, a lot of stuff has changed for GB since their last update. JDK kernel is in the same boat. This leaves the various versions of Aero's kernel essentially, i'd go with .8bfs or the v9 ics kernel, which i'm currently using with no problems.
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thank you if youre not gonna help then dont post. its people like that thats made alot of great devs leave xda cause of the trollers.
anyways thanks for all the tips ill try em all out. im currently testing out some sense kernels for great battery life any suggestions there?

I fully agree. When you get a new device you are not sure what is old and what are outdated mods and what is the newest thing sometimes. I agree we should search first. But I have had times where I search and google and still no answers. Then when I finally post a question there is usually someone making a refference about another kitty being killed. I came from the Droid X2 which the phone was crap and Motorola sucks A$$ for locking the phones down. However that forum was very friendly and eager to help out noobs. I do understand some of the questions asked are a little crazy and you can tell they did not search. But if you are pissed about someone posting just ignore it and let some other helpful person respond. And if they post in the wrong section the MR Highway will come get them!! He is awesome at that! Keep up the great work Mr Highway. Sorry just my .02 cents. Also as the noobs learn they help out other noobs and hopefully you respected devs can ignore these simple questions. The DX2 was my first phone and I had no idea what I was doing. With the help of the DX2 community I got up to speed and was able to help others. Look at my thanks count. One noob helping another. I asked plenty of questions when I first came on here had some helpful feedback and some smart remarks. Well needless to say I am now comfortable with flashing Roms,Kernel,radio and moving back and forth from AOSP,Sense, and ICS and I found all the fixes and work around ICS by reading the threads and not asking questions here. Just some food for thought.

SynysterSilence said:
thank you if youre not gonna help then dont post. its people like that thats made alot of great devs leave xda cause of the trollers.
anyways thanks for all the tips ill try em all out. im currently testing out some sense kernels for great battery life any suggestions there?
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Again, our phone lacks a large variety of kernels, however the few we have are solid (probably the reason we dont have 2000 of them xD)
The only kernel i've really used for sense is drellisdee's #21 kernel, it comes with all the usual cpu governors and is included in a lot of ext4 sense roms. It works on sense 2.1, 3.0 and 3.5 in my experience as well.
Hopefully that was of some help :s

SynysterSilence said:
im sure this has been posted a thousand fold
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This is the Problem I have right here.. so he knows it was most likely posted over and over and just said f it I don't want to look.
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I Dont understand what the problem is. He posted in the correct section, was polite and simply asked for our opinions.
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Yes, he did post this in the right section if it was just kernel and not ROM specific with CM7.2 why just question for AOSP or sense? And I wasn't rude in my response to him as far as him posting a question. I am irritated knowing that we have just recently had a lot of problems in this thread with people just simply asking questions they could've searched for and reposting the same thing 8,000,000 times (su, killall drmserver) ya that is familiar
Kernels do change, with updates and whatnot while others get left behind. simply searching and grave digging an old thread doesnt really change anything. Just dont want this place to become a thread-prison..
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Thank god our device doesn't have many different ones to look into. Its not like its hard again to search kernel and see what shows up.
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its people like that thats made alot of great devs leave xda cause of the trollers
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Its lack of wanting to put in any time with search and asking the same exact questions over and over that makes DEV's leave.
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There were plenty of more posts to quote but I think I proved my point.
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Im locking this, before it goes south, an in my eyes, that's what it's looking like.