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i mean is there a benefit to doing it over the data part? only diff i'm aware of is that (in this case, street view) putting an app in the system bit means i can't update it and as i can't get adb working on my PC, then i have to :
backup all my apps, barr those in system, flash a new rom (but remove the apks from the zip file), then reinstall all apps again
i need google street view and since adb doesnt work, this is the only way that i know of how to do this.
They're put on /system/app as that's where they originally live...if it's an app from the Market it will update itself correctly
It's also a space thing as if they were all on /data/app then you'd eat up your space in no time (unless using A2SD)
umm, ok stupid queston, why is it then no matter whose rom i try (here or modaco), if an app is on /system it is never updated? i *always* get an error during installation
few weeks back, it was google maps, now it's the updated street view.
i've flashed a new rom now but removed street.apk from the zip and can now install just fine, and can update as needs be.
I dunno, I'm stock and just today had Flash and Maps update automatically
If your system apps won't update there's something wrong with your custom ROM.
it wouldn't just be me then though?
i'm using leedroids latest and that's not updating, same with opendesire earlier on, modaco ones etc etc
Are you wiping before you install the ROMs? I've never had a problem updating system apps via the market in my ROM.
of course. full wipe
tommo123 said:
of course. full wipe
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just uninstall the app and re-install it from market
You can't if its on the system partition. Updates go on the /data/ partition, though...
Other way is to get the APK in question and install it using a file manager, it'll do the same thing
uninstalling also isn't allowed, neither is updating. it seems that once it's there, it's there.
now, i've got adb working and can list what's in system etc but it gave a read only error when i was trying to 'rm Street.apk'
remount didn't appear to be a valid option. alls working now anyways. just need to remember to remove certain apks from a zip before flashing.
funky
You *can* update system apps with market updates, as has been said before. The app remains on the system partition and the phone uses the data version instead. If it's not working for you I don't know why, but it's absolutely fine for me.
So what we need is a mod that will give you the option of replacing the system/app with updated market version, but replaces it on system and not data.
j5m said:
So what we need is a mod that will give you the option of replacing the system/app with updated market version, but replaces it on system and not data.
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Well that's exactly what I do in mine. And I get those by updating the system app via the market.
teppic74 said:
Well that's exactly what I do in mine. And I get those by updating the system app via the market.
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Thats great for you, and i appreciate that you do that with your rom +mods, but it means relying on you. Would be good if android would have it as an inbuilt function.
But i guess with newer phones having increased internal storage + a2sd this won't be an issue for much longer.
It's never going to happen as part of standard Android, because the system partition is read only. Also the system has to be a set standard in order to allow upgrades to work.
The market will download the programs, but the green download bar will be full, but it always hangs.
I have to cancel the download about 8 times, before it will finally install.
Anyone know whats causing this? It happens on all apps.
Does the download just hang or does it give you an error like "installation unsuccessful"?
If it's the latter then try unmounting the SD card and then installing/updating.
Also, you might want to try clearing the market app's cache in the app manager.
Also, sometimes I'll download an app and then go do something else while it downloads (like check gmail) and then when I go back to the market it'll look like it's frozen as a partial download but actually installs anyway.
I have had the same problem, i think its on the market side so u might try being patient and give it a shot later, worked for me
sent from a pineapple under the sea
i get a similar problem. market will show me there are updates for my apps, but most of them will end up with "installation unsuccessful"...if i'm correct ALL of those have been moved to the SD card using app2sd...does that have something to do with it?
its getting very frustrating to not be able to update my programs without having to move them from sd to phone, update, then move back to sd...
Google maps gave me problems but it wasnt on sd
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What Rom are you guys using?
I'm using Fresh 3.3 and I'm having similar problems.....but sometimes it works fine.
I was using stock at the time, i remember now i cleared market cache and reboot and it hasnt happened since
sent from a pineapple under the sea
I wiped dalvik cache and it solved all my market download problems (wiping market cache didn't do anything).
Via EVO on XDA app...
Ive had this prob now for a while and its driving me crazy! I have searched for queries
here but cant find the exact problem or working solution.
Problem:
I want to install a program from the Market. I click to install, but as soon as I hit the
button it throws me back to the main Market page. The download starts in
top Android bar. It downloads to 100% (Ive checked the data usage and it does download all)
but then disappears! No error message, nothing installed.
The funny thing is that if I 'open' the download icon on the top bar. I can see the green
download bar. If I click this there is no option to cancel the download(!) instead clikcing on it
it opens up another app on Android Market! Weird!
Same happens with wifi or on 3G. I have about 30mb free at moment.
I tried emptying all possible caches on all apps can think of
***Rebooted
***Unmounted SD card - tried download and install with or without SD card
***Taken SIM card out nad battery
***Cant downgrade Market, its 2.3.4 version
***Tried different apps, big and small. Nothing is installing now...
Nothing seems to help!
Depending on your Rom and hboot your /cache partition might be full, so you could try to reboot into recovery and wipe the cache-partition. If I recall correctly, that's where market usually (i.e. this depends on the rom you are using - some use the sd-card to cache market downloads to allow hboots with small /cache partion) downloads and stores the apps prior installation.
Also deleting market data and cache might be worth a try. Actually, try this first. ^^
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Hi Tillus. Thanks for quick reply!
Im on 'stock' rom. Gingerbread 2.3.3 the official one from HTC. Can I still go to the recovery mode?
I have emptied the Market data and cache dozens of times. I went even to android-secure folder deleting all the old unused stuff. Nothing seems to help... its weird: Market starts to download but it just vanishes after 100%!
hmm, I don't think, you can wipe the cache-partition when using stock-setup and I don't think /cache is the culprit, because in stock-setup the /cache-partition is quite large.
But you can still check: Download a terminal-app and check the output of 'df -h'. There is a line saying Filesystem: '\dev\block\mtdblock04' and Mounted on: \cache and the size, used and available space on this partition.
Edith Says: Download a terminal-app...
Can you install apks without using the play store?
Hi
Ive got a terminal app. How do I check the output df -h? Sorry im bit novice using it.
I typed in \dev\block\mtdblock04 but it says permission denied. Mind let me know what to type exactly?
Many thanks!
just type df -h . Let's see, if it works, without root-permissions.
Sry, my last post was confusing
Doesn't seem to work on my phone...
I tried:
df -h
No such file or directory
df-h
Permission denied
'df-h'
Permission denied
More ideas love to hear!
Hmm, I'm out. Sorry I couldn't help. :/
Code:
busybox df -h
Tillus said:
There is a line saying Filesystem: '\dev\block\mtdblock04' and Mounted on: \cache and the size,
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jannen said:
Hi
I typed in \dev\block\mtdblock04 but it says permission denied.
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Android is based on Linux. You dont use a backslash on Linux.
Hi
I tried that busybox df -h, but it says:
Busybox: permission denied
Is this because of stock Rom, or because a fault?
Atm I can't download and install any more apps from Market...
Menu>Settings>Applications>Market>Clear data
And try again after a restart.
This exact path doesnt exist: Menu>Settings>Applications>Market>Clear data
The following does: Menu-Settings-Applications-Manage Applications-All-Market->Clear data
This one I have done dozens of times now, as well as claering the Market Updater and Download Manager. Restarted, taken off battery, SIM, SD card.. nothing seems to help.
Im gutted...
Hi all,
I wann try Sandvolds ICS with my aged Desire, but apps are starting very slow and there are often FCs.
I read the dev thread very carefully, thats why i bought an class 10 micro sd card.
I'm running cm7r2 hboot with stock kernel and stock a2sd and a 2gb ext4 partition.
cache2sd enabled
dalvikcache2sd enabled
ive tried nearly everything.
Thx
Okay I just disabled cache2sd and it seems a lil bit faster, but not really satisfying.
Has anybody same troubles??
Try Data++ SPL
bortak said:
Try Data++ SPL
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Im not shure what another hboot should change?
The only thing it changes is the space for /system and /data
/cache has the same value at all
Thx
Drunken-Monkey said:
The only thing it changes is the space for /system and /data
/cache has the same value at all
Thx
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It means more system related files can be put on the internal memory instead of the sd card. Which means faster reaction time compared to your phone reading those system related files on the sdcard
stankyou said:
It means more system related files can be put on the internal memory instead of the sd card. Which means faster reaction time compared to your phone reading those system related files on the sdcard
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Yep, I got that...
but as I understand a2sd right, all data will be moved to /sd-ext/data and linked to /data or /app. Correct me if I am wrong.
Anyway, things are getting more and more complicated.
After disabling cache2sd im not able to install apps from store. Play store tells me not enough space...
Sorry... I can install apps, but the update for google maps wasn't successfull
Sorry for all that stupid questions, but i really want ICS
Drunken-Monkey said:
Yep, I got that...
but as I understand a2sd right, all data will be moved to /sd-ext/data and linked to /data or /app. Correct me if I am wrong.
Anyway, things are getting more and more complicated.
After disabling cache2sd im not able to install apps from store. Play store tells me not enough space...
Sorry... I can install apps, but the update for google maps wasn't successfull
Sorry for all that stupid questions, but i really want ICS
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1) Do a full wipe. Boot, system, data, dalvic, cache.
2) Flash Data++
3) Flash ICS and enable A2SD
It's not healthy to mess around with those settings once it's already been installed. Jus' sayin'.
bortak said:
1) Do a full wipe. Boot, system, data, dalvic, cache.
2) Flash Data++
3) Flash ICS and enable A2SD
It's not healthy to mess around with those settings once it's already been installed. Jus' sayin'.
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Alright, i'll figure it out tomorrow and tell u if it has worked.
I really appreciate ur answers!
THX
Hi all,
today i've added the cache2sd option in the a2sd script again.
for non obvious reson, i can update/install all apps again and my desire is now fast as it was pronounced in the dev thread.
i dunno what changed... soo?!
anway thx 4 the help
I had this issue, it was to do with the way I was installing a2sd. My apps took a little while to load or occasionally would pop up with a not responding messaging asking to close or wait. Usually if you clicked wait the app would load up.
Basically when you install a2sd on the terminal it asks you if you want to move apps data if you click no to it you'll find that apps will start loading quicker.
That worked for me, now every time I flash the updates to ICS I do it that way and my apps have been fine.
Rezaei12 said:
I had this issue, it was to do with the way I was installing a2sd. My apps took a little while to load or occasionally would pop up with a not responding messaging asking to close or wait. Usually if you clicked wait the app would load up.
Basically when you install a2sd on the terminal it asks you if you want to move apps data if you click no to it you'll find that apps will start loading quicker.
That worked for me, now every time I flash the updates to ICS I do it that way and my apps have been fine.
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Hi,
the weird thing is, i enabled all 2sd options, like in the first try and now it works lika a charm
Weird, the main thing is it's working though I guess!
I've rooted my phone about a week ago and have been fiddling around with all the different things i can do with the phone, but my main reason for doing it was to help with the crap internal storage it has. So i got Link2SD setup and partitioned my SD card with a second ex2 partition, and for a while it will work well, i will have around 70-80mb listed as free on my internal but that won't really change much even when adding and linking new files with l2sd, but lately i've been running into a problem where it will drop down to 10-20 mb and just stay there. I've already tried formatting and doing a clean install which will fix it for a day or so, but it keeps dropping low and staying there even when i delete things to clean up space. I've clean installed 4 times already with the same effect, and now it's getting annoying since i started fresh yesterday and had the issue come up almost instantly, wiped again and now i'm already back at the same spot.. is there some folder that is filling up that i'm unaware of? I'm just very confused about this issue now hah, any help would be greatly appreciated
Link2sd doesn't prevent your phone from thinking that internal storage is full, I think.
I'd recommend trying s2e instead.
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"You can overclock as much as you want, your phone will always seem too slow."
hmm, s2e won't run on stock rom will it? i think i've read that it will only run on cm7/9
Hmm. When I was new to link 2 sd I had same problem. Don't worry I got a fix. ^_^
1.Uninstall stupid system apps you don't use. We need to make space in system partition.
2. Download titanium backup and when u open it. Go to options select integrate davlic cache into rom. It'll take few minutes, when it's complete reboot.
3. Make sure all files are linked.
4. Clear cache occasionally.
5. If you still are low on space you may use this command as the last option.
Warning: you may have to reboot phone after installing a new app to run it for first time.
Go to terminal
Type 'su'
Accept superuser request.
Type 'a2sd cachesd'
Phone will reboot and may take some time to start.
6. That should be it. I'm running cm9 with link 2 sd and I have more than 100 apps still I got 75 mb free.
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When you flash a new rom, make sure first thing you do is installation of Link2SD.
Tick auto link on it, and then install whatever you want.
It's how I solved that problem.
Now I have 107 apps installed with Link2SD, and around ~40mb of free internal space.
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Try deleting files in /data/tombstones (if there is any), using a file explorer.
Many apps will save their data in your internal memory, even if they're linked to your SD. There are some programs (like S2E) that can move all your data to your SD but you may loose performance if you don't have a fast SD. One alternative is using Titanium Backup to move to SD data of individual apps, this way you can keep in your internal memory the data you want to access quickly (ie your contacts) and you move to SD all the other data. The process is reversible and if you think it slows down too much a specifc app you can move back its data to internal memory.
To do dat you have to go to "Copy/Restore" in Titanium Backup, long-press one app and scroll down until you find the option "Move app data to SD".
This way I've been able to save about 60 MB of additional internal memory and I haven't noticed any change in performance.
An additional advantage is that this Titanium Backup feature is available in the free version; the Dalvik cache integration proposed in a previous post is locked if you don't have PRO version.
Linking /data/data app files for free?
Ferri64 said:
To do dat you have to go to "Copy/Restore" in Titanium Backup, long-press one app and scroll down until you find the option "Move app data to SD".
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Hi,
Can anyone confirm if this is still true. I've just installed Titanium Backup Free v5.5.2 and in the "Backup/Restore" screen I follow the instructions above and see a 'Move to SD card' option, but no 'Move app data to SD' option. Choosing the 'Move to SD card' option does not move the app data. Is it still available in the free app?
I'm very happy with link2sd with my stock rom HTC Wildfire S except that it doesn't offer me the ability to selectively link /data/data application files. Perhaps there's another linking app that does a more complete job? I've seen this thread mention simple2ext but that seems to require Cyanogenmod.
Cheers,
Mark
marky1124 said:
Hi,
Can anyone confirm if this is still true. I've just installed Titanium Backup Free v5.5.2 and in the "Backup/Restore" screen I follow the instructions above and see a 'Move to SD card' option, but no 'Move app data to SD' option.
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I can provide an answer to my own question here. It turns out that the 'Move app data to sd card' option only appears if Titanium Backup sees a valid mount point, as per this documentation: http://www.titaniumtrack.com/kb/titanium-backup-kb/titanium-backup-technical-faq.html#requirements-for-using-move-app-data-to-sd
If you have a phone like mine (Wildfire S, stock rom v2.3.5) then you don't have one of the TB supported mount points so you have to create it yourself using Terminal Emulator and Busybox
e.g.
Code:
$ su
# ln -s /data/sdext2 /data/sd
# mkdir /data/sdext2/app
Also I've now discovered that for the functionality to work properly the second partition must be a unix filesystem type like ext2, ext3 or ext4, but not vfat (FAT32) since that doesn't allow TB to create symbolic links.
There's more discussion of this and gory details on this thread
Cheers,
Mark
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sukhjit321 said:
Hmm. When I was new to link 2 sd I had same problem. Don't worry I got a fix. ^_^
5. If you still are low on space you may use this command as the last option.
Warning: you may have to reboot phone after installing a new app to run it for first time.
Go to terminal
Type 'su'
Accept superuser request.
Type 'a2sd cachesd'
Phone will reboot and may take some time to start.
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Brother u are a life saver, I just followed your syntax and it worked like charm. I am now having 98 mb of internal memory from 38mb.
But have Couple of question for u....
1. Can u tell me if I have to run this command again and again after installing new apps or will it work on its own if once executed?
2. I have link2sd installed before this command and have linked all the files to 2nd partion of my sd card.
Is it safe to uninstall link2sd app now?
Rahul2929 said:
Brother u are a life saver, I just followed your syntax and it worked like charm. I am now having 98 mb of internal memory from 38mb.
But have Couple of question for u....
1. Can u tell me if I have to run this command again and again after installing new apps or will it work on its own if once executed?
2. I have link2sd installed before this command and have linked all the files to 2nd partion of my sd card.
Is it safe to uninstall link2sd app now?
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1. You only need this command again when the memory runs way too low. Don't try it again coz it reduces performance too.
2. I guess you can/ I've never tried it tough.
I ran into problem with your command...it force closes some of my apps which I noticed later ....
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I had the same problem a while ago that i had to reflash the rom because apps were force closing all the time
The reason this happened was because i downloaded several apps at the same time, so Link2SD didnt had enough time to link all files
and the internal memory became full and went crazy
the only solution for me was deleting all apps and reinstalling them
so my recommendation would be not to download more than 1 app at the same time, wait for Link2SD to link files, and then download the next one
Actually I did that I did a factory reset and then ran the command..bt after that my internal apps was also force closing like playstore,etc
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I think Link2sd and DTa2sd can't run at the same time. You'll be get FC everytime install new apps.
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stupid but effective method
ocnDaNN said:
I've rooted my phone about a week ago and have been fiddling around with all the different things i can do with the phone, but my main reason for doing it was to help with the crap internal storage it has. So i got Link2SD setup and partitioned my SD card with a second ex2 partition, and for a while it will work well, i will have around 70-80mb listed as free on my internal but that won't really change much even when adding and linking new files with l2sd, but lately i've been running into a problem where it will drop down to 10-20 mb and just stay there. I've already tried formatting and doing a clean install which will fix it for a day or so, but it keeps dropping low and staying there even when i delete things to clean up space. I've clean installed 4 times already with the same effect, and now it's getting annoying since i started fresh yesterday and had the issue come up almost instantly, wiped again and now i'm already back at the same spot.. is there some folder that is filling up that i'm unaware of? I'm just very confused about this issue now hah, any help would be greatly appreciated
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i have the same problem and the solution (2 steps) is a bit stupid but here it is:
1 - go into (manage applications) in settings and wait till it calculate the storage of every app (under every app's name), where you will find that the memore increased usually from 12 mb to abou 20 mb.
2 - you have to go into link2sd app and do one of these 3 things:
1. link library files
2. link dalvic cache files
3. clear cache (not clear dalvic cache)
one of these options or more will do the track. now check storage and you will find more 30 or 40 mb
if anyone know a good application that links data too, i'l be very thankful
I am using link2sd with ext3 partition created through cwm recovery after re booting some apps disappear and i have to install them again
Any fix?
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