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Internal memory disappearing

Ive had the following issue ever since I got my desire, but only now starts to irritate me.
Whats happening is that internal memory disappers randomly. For instance, when I have 30mb free space and I install an app of 4mb, Im left with 26mb of course. The weird thing, however, is that when I uninstall the 4mb app, I do not get back up to 30mb of free space but rather something like 28. Where has the remaining 2mb of memory gone to?
Additionally, when I start the day with e.g. 30mb free space, it can spontaneously jump down a couple of mb's at the end of the day (one minute I have 30mb, the next I have 27mb). Mind you, this is without touching the market and installing/uninstalling apps.
It only started bothering me today, because I had uninstalled quite alot of apps last week to have 30mb of free space, but only have 22mb of free internal memory at the moment of typing.
If anyone could help me out or could shed some light on this issue, I would be very grateful.
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I use app2sd program to clear all cache btw.
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I think this has to do with the dalvik cache. But I am not sure. Overall, I would say: When you do not have any problem with installing/uninstalling apps or other things, do not bother about it.

Ok, thank you. If I did want to delete it, I would probably need root?
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What do you want to delete?
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Most applications have 3 parts that occupy storage space: Code (.apk), Data (user settings and preferences) and Cache(some images etc downloaded during previous sessions).
When you uninstall app, the data and cache are removed immediately. But for some apps, the .apk file is retained. It is sometimes removed after rebooting phone, sometimes immediately, otherwise not removed at all.
Use a file explorer like ES File explorer to check if you find the .apk file somewhere. To search quickly, connect phone to computer in mass storage mode, and search the mounted usb drive using usual windows\linux file search.
Best Regards

Root and use apps2sd you will never run out
Simples

MatDrOiD said:
What do you want to delete?
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The dalvik cache, which you mentioned.
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smhtc said:
Most applications have 3 parts that occupy storage space: Code (.apk), Data (user settings and preferences) and Cache(some images etc downloaded during previous sessions).
When you uninstall app, the data and cache are removed immediately. But for some apps, the .apk file is retained. It is sometimes removed after rebooting phone, sometimes immediately, otherwise not removed at all.
Use a file explorer like ES File explorer to check if you find the .apk file somewhere. To search quickly, connect phone to computer in mass storage mode, and search the mounted usb drive using usual windows\linux file search.
Best Regards
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Thanks, I will try this, although wouldnt this just delete stuff from my SD card and not from my internal memory?
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I have a htc desire stock orange uk, S-OFF, rooted.
download Link2sd (you have to be rooted)
With link2sd all I did was use Ubuntu and gparted to partition my 8gb sd card the 2nd partition set at 1024mb and the rest all together and both FAT32, as on the market app info it says ext2, ext3 etc etc can only be used with a custom rom.
hope this helps
This has been a life saver went from 17MB free to Nearly 60MB!!!!!
Also if you suddenly wondering why your memory disappears, try changing the amount of days email you have on your phone in each email account setting. Have mine set at one day. If you really need to get an older email you can just change it whenever and send and receive.

low storage even with links2sd

ok ive been rooted for a good few month, i use links2sd with a second partition to free up internal space, but lately im getting error messages when updating apps that i dont have enough internal storage, i dont have many apps installed and i dont fancy wiping and starting again as this is what i did lastime! how can this be resolved?

I posted this on other thread, The guy had same question. Please search the forums before asking any question.
Anyways here's the answer.
Hmm. When I was new to link 2 sd I had same problem. Don't worry I got a fix. ^_^
1.Uninstall stupid system apps you don't use. We need to make space in system partition.
2. Download titanium backup and when u open it. Go to options select integrate davlic cache into rom. It'll take few minutes, when it's complete reboot.
3. Make sure all files are linked.
4. Clear cache occasionally.
5. If you still are low on space you may use this command as the last option.
Warning: you may have to reboot phone after installing a new app to run it for first time.
Go to terminal
Type 'su'
Accept superuser request.
Type 'a2sd cachesd'
Phone will reboot and may take some time to start.
6. That should be it. I'm running cm9 with link 2 sd and I have more than 100 apps still I got 75 mb free.
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[Q] Manually transfer certain app to the sd-ext (ext3/4) ?

Just wondering is there any way to manually transfer certain app to the sd-ext (ext3/4).
Any hidden setting or tweak in S2E ?
I am using S2E but it moves all your applications to sd-ext and don’t let you choose the applications that you want to move.
I only want to move games,unimportant,less frequent used or non background applications to sd-ext.I think launchers and some other apps just run better or need to be in the internal memory for max performace and to minimize battery drain.
Is there any way to get around ?

if it is moving all your apps and you want to move certain apps back then you could use an app called system cleanup. its a really useful app,once its loaded its as simple as long pressing the desired app and choosing your option. titanium backup also does the same and has a batch mode. not sure if this is what your looking for or not?
edit: miss read your post,so i dont think this will move to sdext? but may come in useful
R.V.3 (MokeeOs)

slymobi said:
if it is moving all your apps and you want to move certain apps back then you could use an app called system cleanup. its a really useful app,once its loaded its as simple as long pressing the desired app and choosing your option. titanium backup also does the same and has a batch mode. not sure if this is what your looking for or not?
edit: miss read your post,so i dont think this will move to sdext? but may come in useful R.V.3 (MokeeOs)
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As far as i understand "system cleanup" will move certain apps to "/system".That is not what we did MTD partiton for.
The problem is when you install an app,S2E moves it to sd-ext(ext3/4) and don’t let you choose the applications that you want to move.I want to manually transfer the app either to"/sd-ext" or "/sdcard" or just keep it in internal memory(/system).
e.g. App A in system
App B in /sd-ext
App C in /sdcard

optimusodd said:
As far as i understand "system cleanup" will move certain apps to "/system".That is not what we did MTD partiton for.
The problem is when you install an app,S2E moves it to sd-ext(ext3/4) and don’t let you choose the applications that you want to move.I want to manually transfer the app either to"/sd-ext" or "/sdcard" or just keep it in internal memory(/system).
e.g. App A in system
App B in /sd-ext
App C in /sdcard
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Not sure if you confuse something? Apps on sd?
And yes, you're right: s2e doesn't let you pick individual apps - but... I believe that's a good idea thinking about performance (just my opinion, though).
Any time I have the feeling an app should be in internal I'd push it to system (usually i won't run out of space there as i strip a lot of bloat out). This makes even more sense to me than using two data partitions (what you would have when selectively moving apps to sd or vice versa).
All my user apps and dalvik-cache are on sdext (so there's no need for the OS to search and less possibility to struggle). I use custom mtd partitions, too, but the internal data partition isn't useless as there's still a lot of app data...
But like i said: just my opinion ymmv.
Swyped from my HTC Wildfire (Buzz)

eventcom said:
Not sure if you confuse something? Apps on sd?
And yes, you're right: s2e doesn't let you pick individual apps - but... I believe that's a good idea thinking about performance (just my opinion, though).
This makes even more sense to me than using two data partitions (what you would have when selectively moving apps to sd or vice versa)All my user apps and dalvik-cache are on sdext (so there's no need for the OS to search and less possibility to struggle).
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Nope,I am not confused.I want to manually move selected apps to
>Internal data partition
>SD-ext(ext3/4)
>SD Card(like APP2SD let you choose the apps you want to transfer to external storage)
In short,moving only select apps to the ext-3/4 partition.
The more system related stuff you move to the SD ext, the more information it needs to pull out from the SD Card.
As i said some critical apps need to be in the internal memory for stability and performance reasons while it's better to keep some heavy apps like Offline maps or Dictionaries to external memory (FAT32 partiton).
Any time I have the feeling an app should be in internal I'd push it to system (usually i won't run out of space there as i strip a lot of bloat out).
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I don't want to push apps to system as it's size is 140 MB and out of that 23 MB is free i.e you can't push more than 2-3 apps.And if you really want,you will have to change your MTD partiton again and again.
I use custom mtd partitions, too, but the internal data partition isn't useless as there's still a lot of app data.
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As S2E moves all your apps to sd-ext and don't let you choose whether you want to move or just keep in internal data partition.Whta's the use of internal memory and SD-Card meory.My internal data partition is 310 MB.I don't think the app data can fill even half of it.Moreover 512 MB of SD-ext will get filled very soon.Well,I don't care about running about of space as I can increase the size of ext partiton,I just want it to let me choose the apps that I want to move.
Any idea ?
Thanks

optimusodd said:
Nope,I am not confused.I want to manually move selected apps to
>Internal data partition
>SD-ext(ext3/4)
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I got that well but this one
optimusodd said:
>SD Card
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is not a good idea in my eyes (and from my experience).
FAT32 might be good to store some data (nothing db related or where apps are writing onto very often)
optimusodd said:
The more system related stuff you move to the SD ext, the more information it needs to pull out from the SD Card
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and that's where I think you are at least a bit wrong... an external partition (ext2,3 or 4) is treated just the same way like /data and /system. Of course it might be a bit slower than partitions on the internal drive (and have some faults or instabilities) but it's still a system partition while the FAT32 part of the SD card uses a different format (which will definitely affect performance).
I don't want to push apps to system as it's size is 140 MB and out of that 23 MB is free i.e you can't push more than 2-3 apps.And if you really want,you will have to change your MTD partiton again and again.
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nah, I don't think so - you just do it once and keep in mind that you want to push a few apps there (me for instance deletes a lot of stuff from the ROM, too... if I'm not mistaken that's more than I push back there)
As S2E moves all your apps to sd-ext and don't let you choose whether you want to move or just keep in internal data partition.Whta's the use of internal memory and SD-Card meory.My internal data partition is 310 MB.I don't think the app data can fill even half of it.
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My current stats (total/used in MB):
015/001 cache
300/249 data (= 83%)
960/368 ext
150/113 system
But I must confess that I didn't care to clean up my system recently...

Is link2sd something for u? It transfers individuale apps to and from the sd-ext partition.
Verstuurd van mijn HTC Wildfire

Hazou said:
Is link2sd something for u? It transfers individuale apps to and from the sd-ext partition.
Verstuurd van mijn HTC Wildfire
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I use the same link2sd and it works perfectly: it's easy to decide what applications to move to sd-ext or to keep into the internal memory.

stiven68 said:
I use the same link2sd and it works perfectly: it's easy to decide what applications to move to sd-ext or to keep into the internal memory.
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Is link2sd something for u? It transfers individuale apps to and from the sd-ext partition.
Verstuurd van mijn HTC Wildfire
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Yep,link2sd can do the job but it could be better if S2E provides the same feature and let us choose the apps that we want to move.
Well,after a long forum research i have reached a conclusion that link2sd is way better than S2E.

eventcom said:
I got that well but this oneis not a good idea in my eyes (and from my experience).FAT32 might be good to store some data (nothing db related or where apps are writing onto very often)
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Yep,i did mean dictionary and maps.
And here comes link2sd to your rescue :
It also provides native apps2sd features on Android 2.2 and higher. It can move any non-protected user apps to SD card (force move), with batch moving capability.
me for instance deletes a lot of stuff from the ROM, too... if I'm not mistaken that's more than I push back there
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Did you use TB to remove bloatwares and other unnecessary stuff ?

optimusodd said:
Yep,i did mean dictionary and maps.
And here comes link2sd to your rescue :
It also provides native apps2sd features on Android 2.2 and higher. It can move any non-protected user apps to SD card (force move), with batch moving capability.
Did you use TB to remove bloatwares and other unnecessary stuff ?
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nah, most of the time manual edit. Best practice would be to do the testing by removing the apps one by one and if you're done delete them from the ROM zip and use this as your barebone (and remember which apps are safe to remove).
Btw there are a few good hints of Slymobi and me in the LeWa thread (regarding CM7) which could be seen as an update for the barebones entry in the cyanogenmod wiki.
Swyped from my HTC Wildfire (Buzz)

optimusodd said:
Yep,link2sd can do the job but it could be better if S2E provides the same feature and let us choose the apps that we want to move.
Well,after a long forum research i have reached a conclusion that link2sd is way better than S2E.
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I dont think link2sd is way better. The just do 2 different things.
Link2sd lets u manually push or pull apps to ext. So after each new app install u need to push the app again. It is only useful when u only want a couple of ur apps to ext. It works nice if u dont want to have every app on ext.
S2E will transfer all apps, data and / or dalvik to ext. So u always have enough internal memory. This works especially well when u transfer the apps to ext, but the data not.
They are both very goods apps. U cant compare them to each other, i think. It is just what u want at that moment

eventcom said:
nah, most of the time manual edit. Best practice would be to do the testing by removing the apps one by one and if you're done delete them from the ROM zip and use this as your barebone (and remember which apps are safe to remove).
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I have never tried barebone install lol.Have you tried one ?I use TB to remove them.Using terminal emulator is another option.
there are a few good hints of Slymobi and me in the LeWa thread (regarding CM7) which could be seen as an update for the barebones entry in the cyanogenmod wiki.Swyped from my HTC Wildfire (Buzz)
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Can you share the link of your post ?

Hazou said:
Link2sd lets u manually push or pull apps to ext. So after each new app install u need to push the app again. It is only useful when u only want a couple of ur apps to ext. It works nice if u dont want to have every app on ext.
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It's possible to set link2sd to automatically move every new app to sd-ext just after the installation and then manually move back to the internal memory if necessary.

stiven68 said:
It's possible to set link2sd to automatically move every new app to sd-ext just after the installation and then manually move back to the internal memory if necessary.
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Yep i know ,
But then i dont see the point of using it, because s2e is already build into CM sort of (just need to download the interface). And with link2sd u get a massive script thats needs to be loaded. Not that it will slow down the device very much.
And with my device, link2sd sometimes wont load all the apps. But that is my experience.
Hazou

Hazou said:
Yep i know ,But then i dont see the point of using it, because s2e is already build into CM sort of (just need to download the interface). And with link2sd u get a massive script thats needs to be loaded. Not that it will slow down the device very much.
And with my device, link2sd sometimes wont load all the apps. But that is my experience.
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Here is why link2sd is better and we want to use it :
>It let us choose the apps we want to move.
>I don't want to move launchers and some other apps due to stability reasons.
>S2E moves and regenrates too much of a cache.
>S2E works only for CM roms
>link2sd provides better control
>some users have reported the issue that after sometime the apps starts to disappear in S2E.
>S2E doesn't work with Titanium Backup properly.
>S2E creates problems during Nandroid backup.I approve that.
>S2E only supports ext3/ext4
>In worst case scenario (card crash) you are gonna bang your head on the wall as it moves everything to sd ext partition.
>In S2E you can't use any application while your card is mounted as a removable disk on your PC.
Other features of link2sd :
Features:
- Create and remove link for apk, dex and lib files of the applications you select
- Automatically link newly installed apps
- Move any user apps to SD even though the app does not support moving to SD (for Android 2.2 and higher)
- Shows the apps that support moving to SD with native apps2sd (for Android 2.2 and higher)
- Set the default install location of the apps; auto, internal, or external (for Android 2.2 and higher)
- Batch link, unlink, reinstall, uninstall, "move to SD", "move to phone" functions (multi-select mode)
- Uninstall system applications
- Freeze and un-freeze system and users applications
- Convert system apps into user apps
- Convert user apps into system apps
- Integrate "Updated" system apps into system (ROM)
- Clear data and cache of the application
- Clear all apps cache at once (1-tap cache cleaner without being root)
- List applications, show detailed size information and link status
- Sort and filter applications
- Search applications by name
- Display available space information of internal storage, SD card and SD card 2nd partition
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Guess enough reasons to go with link2sd:silly:

optimusodd said:
Here is why link2sd is better and we want to use it :
>It let us choose the apps we want to move.
>I don't want to move launchers and some other apps due to stability reasons.
>S2E moves and regenrates too much of a cache.
>S2E works only for CM roms
>link2sd provides better control
>some users have reported the issue that after sometime the apps starts to disappear in S2E.
>S2E doesn't work with Titanium Backup properly.
>S2E creates problems during Nandroid backup.I approve that.
>S2E only supports ext3/ext4
>In worst case scenario (card crash) you are gonna bang your head on the wall as it moves everything to sd ext partition.
>In S2E you can't use any application while your card is mounted as a removable disk on your PC
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nothing wrong using link2sd - everybody has a different setup and different priorities. So just to tell you a different point of view: In my opinion moving apps from the stable and fast internal storage to an external partition is not a good solution at all - but if you aren't satisfied with installing just a hand full of user apps this is the only way to go. In opposite to your opinion i believe (and have the experience) that spreading the user apps onto two partitions (plus the system apps on the system partition) definitely is not more stable than just moving all apps in one place. To me this makes sense as the system needs more information about the app (where to find). It's like having two /data/app directories... I'm pretty much satisfied with my setup (s2e) and didn't have any major issues for one and a half year. I can't confirm any issues regarding cache or "lost apps". The only thing i experienced twice was the system forgot about the ext partition (which could happen with every other solution, too, afaik and hasn't been much trouble to solve).
Furthermore i really believe that the best place for the important stuff, like launcher and file manager, is in /system/app ...
But again: nothing wrong with different prefs...
Swyped from my HTC Wildfire (Buzz)

[Q] Mildwild 4.3 (Oxygen) bind sd-ex

Hello Folks,
I have just moved from MW CM 5.0 to MW 4.3 (Oxygen) due to some call-delay issue of the first one.
MW 4.3 is quick and with no major bugs. the only bad surprise is the memory availability. Making a Titanium restore of all the previouse app+dada I crashed in the annoying "not enough memory" message.
I imagine that the fact that the M2SD is managed internally change the performance of it (true?). By the way I was playing with the different option trying to gain some space and I came across a new functionality (new for me) such as "bind /data/data to sd-ext/app-data" not really sure what it does but it increased my free internal memory from 12mb to 89mb. GREAT !! the only problem is that the overall speed of the system went drastically down. I guess it s normal as application will read their data from the SD instead of the quicker internal memory. Unfortunately with this option on the whole gsm was not usable anymore.
My question is: Is there any way to free more memory using this ROM? (with a decent GSM's response time)
Thanks for your help
Stefano

stegal said:
Hello Folks,
I have just moved from MW CM 5.0 to MW 4.3 (Oxygen) due to some call-delay issue of the first one.
MW 4.3 is quick and with no major bugs. the only bad surprise is the memory availability. Making a Titanium restore of all the previouse app+dada I crashed in the annoying "not enough memory" message.
I imagine that the fact that the M2SD is managed internally change the performance of it (true?). By the way I was playing with the different option trying to gain some space and I came across a new functionality (new for me) such as "bind /data/data to sd-ext/app-data" not really sure what it does but it increased my free internal memory from 12mb to 89mb. GREAT !! the only problem is that the overall speed of the system went drastically down. I guess it s normal as application will read their data from the SD instead of the quicker internal memory. Unfortunately with this option on the whole gsm was not usable anymore.
My question is: Is there any way to free more memory using this ROM? (with a decent GSM's response time)
Thanks for your help
Stefano
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Well... that's the only option available on that rom, is to enable and mount sdext, that way it will move apps to the sdcard. I don't think it moves dalvik. Either way, what's your sdcard and class? Usually moving only apps doesn't really slow nothing important unless it's a class 2 card or some card with slower speeds. Even moving dalvik the rom should stay fast IMO. There's a slowdown but not that much.

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Well... that's the only option available on that rom, is to enable and mount sdext, that way it will move apps to the sdcard. I don't think it moves dalvik. Either way, what's your sdcard and class? Usually moving only apps doesn't really slow nothing important unless it's a class 2 card or some card with slower speeds. Even moving dalvik the rom should stay fast IMO. There's a slowdown but not that much.
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I think that option I used "bind" move app and data to sd-ext. my sd is a class 4.

stegal said:
I think that option I used "bind" move app and data to sd-ext. my sd is a class 4.
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if u check the attachments for the rom in the development thread, there should be a dalvik2sd.zip there, i think i posted it there ages ago. just flash it in recovery.
Sent from my HTC Desire

dalvik2sd
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if u check the attachments for the rom in the development thread, there should be a dalvik2sd.zip there, i think i posted it there ages ago. just flash it in recovery.
Sent from my HTC Desire
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Jm,
I have a comment for you. First while I was looking for you post (could not find it though) I came across something that goes against your post, please read the following
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Do a clean installing!
Tips:
To enable Apps2Sdext and/or Data2SdExt visit Settings|Applications|Development.
To set the default installation partition go to Settings|Applications.
To move applications from sd-ext|sdcard|internal Settings|Applications|Manage Applications.
There is no Dalvik2SdExt because .dex will follow the location of the apk, so if you install an application on sd-ext the dex will be on sd-ext, the same applys for internal or sdcard.
Do not use A2sd scripts. >>
So where is the truth. Do I need this script or not. If you can explain me why could you also provide a link to this script?
Thanks in advance
Stefano

il post it later if u want it, im on my phone. u will get more memory
Sent from my HTC Desire

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il post it later if u want it, im on my phone. u will get more memory
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The part that confuse me is that "There is no Dalvik2SdExt because .dex will follow the location of the apk, so if you install an application on sd-ext the dex will be on sd-ext, the same applys for internal or sdcard."
I do not understand .. what he is saying, there is not dalvik2Sd and there is not need to have one (something like the A2SD) or there is not dalvik2sd so go ahead to install one.
if you know that the dalvik2sd script can free some space without side effects...pls post it
thanks

stegal said:
The part that confuse me is that "There is no Dalvik2SdExt because .dex will follow the location of the apk, so if you install an application on sd-ext the dex will be on sd-ext, the same applys for internal or sdcard."
I do not understand .. what he is saying, there is not dalvik2Sd and there is not need to have one (something like the A2SD) or there is not dalvik2sd so go ahead to install one.
if you know that the dalvik2sd script can free some space without side effects...pls post it
thanks
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basically if u check the box to install apps in sd-ext, from "now" on apps will install on sd-ext, but there is aready dalvik cache on ur phone before u check the boxes and thats what the dalvik2sd.zip moves(i think). iv used the zip and has no effect on performance or anything, it just free's up a wee bit of space.
il post the zip in bout 2 hours coz im busy. if u look at the OxyZM thread, click the attachments, the file is there.
Sent from my HTC Desire

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il post it later if u want it, im on my phone. u will get more memory
Sent from my HTC Desire
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hi Jmcclue,
I tried to find your post...without result. I found one where you say that it was possible to download "click the wee paper clip", ok now I sound really silly but...where should I click? (no..I am not a blondie even if I sound like it )
F1, F1!!
Stefano

stegal said:
hi Jmcclue,
I tried to find your post...without result. I found one where you say that it was possible to download "click the wee paper clip", ok now I sound really silly but...where should I click? (no..I am not a blondie even if I sound like it )
F1, F1!!
Stefano
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lol il just upload it
Sent from my HTC Desire

Dalvik to sd for MildWild Oxygen and where the "wee paper clip" is lol (attachments).
md5 - d7ba5d384a78d14e57d293cd877eef7b

jmcclue said:
lol il just upload it
Sent from my HTC Desire
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...hello jm just coming back to thank you for your support. Finally I have a stable situation. Nevertheless after installing the script you have uploaded nothing changed. I had to factory reset, reinstal CM 4.3, install your script and everthing went smooth. Now it s 2 weeking I am keeping installing new apps and my free memory stay basically stable uner 80mb free space.
I have just one curiosity..if I go to Settings--> storage I see SD-ext "unavailable". After all I do not care much but if it is unavailable...where my apps have been stored so far? ps I reserved 1Gb of SD-ext .
Cheers
ps I just installed another apps of 3mb...no changes in the free space, so cool I feel like "no-limits"

stegal said:
...hello jm just coming back to thank you for your support. Finally I have a stable situation. Nevertheless after installing the script you have uploaded nothing changed. I had to factory reset, reinstal CM 4.3, install your script and everthing went smooth. Now it s 2 weeking I am keeping installing new apps and my free memory stay basically stable uner 80mb free space.
I have just one curiosity..if I go to Settings--> storage I see SD-ext "unavailable". After all I do not care much but if it is unavailable...where my apps have been stored so far? ps I reserved 1Gb of SD-ext .
Cheers
ps I just installed another apps of 3mb...no changes in the free space, so cool I feel like "no-limits"
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not sure if it's been mentioned, but you should also be on cm7r2 hboot to maximise space (need to be s-off).
then follow the instructions on the first page of the thread to enable sd-ext. this will move user apps + user app dalvik cache to sd-ext. in other words, most of the dalvik cache should already be on sd-ext.
the dalvik2sd script should only move system dalvik cache to sd-ext, which will save you a little space.
to check everything is working, use an app like 'diskusage' to browse your partitions.

Link2SD & CM11: Optimal Strategies

I am super-curious if & how anyone here is using Link2SD successfully with CM11 (on the Epic 4G, specifically).
I've tried scouring these forums, and the Internet in general, to figure out the best way to get this to work...
But everything that I've tried, it all seems to be working great, only up until the first time that the phone reboots, then it all goes to hell.
I am wondering if there are any extra steps to follow, specifically for the Epic 4G, or any particular pitfalls known to avoid?
That's why I wanted to ask here, specifically to Epic 4G users...
If you are getting Link2SD to work well with CM11, then please chime in here, and can you explain how you got it all set up and working well?
(I feel like this is the one last thing that if I could conquer it, then I could really continue to get a lot of life out of this phone... as it stands, it seems too risky to put much faith in Link2SD, because if the phone happens to spontaneously reboot while I'm out running around, then I'm screwed because so many apps just disappear, and then it's a pain to re-download, re-install, and re-setup each of them...)
Thanks in advance for any help,
AS

I am using Link2SD on my Epic 4G with CM11 with some success. I just did a reboot, and as usual lost any icons that had links created in Link2SD, so I go to the app locker & re-add them to my home screen. This is typical of what happens on a reboot for me. One thing I did notice is that it takes a minute or so for the deleted app icons to show up in the app locker again, so if you are reinstalling them, it may be a matter of waiting for them to show back up. Also on occasion(not this time), Link2SD will prompt me about a problem with the links and then prompt me to reinitiate the partition or something to that affect. Once I do that and it reboots, the app icons are still gone, so I just re-add them. Anyway, I know its not a perfect solution, but with this device its better than running out of RAM. One last thing, needless to say, I only create links for enough apps to free up enough RAM to keep my Epic working properly.

I've finally got a system going that seems to work for me, and so I thought I'd share some things.
I'm on CM11 (as of today, cm-11-20140602-NIGHTLY-epicmtd.zip) and I'm using Link2SD.
HERE'S A "GOTCHA" THAT HAD ME PULLING MY HAIR OUT FOR AT LEAST A DAY OR TWO:
Link2SD was having problems mounting the 2nd partition - it would just say "Mount script cannot be created." or something like that (not a very helpful error message), no matter how many times I rebooted and tried again. What I *finally* figured out (somehow), was that this error was being caused by /system being completely full. When I went and deleted a few things from /system (such as goofy wallpapers or that 'Apollo' app that I never use), then Link2SD was able to successfully create the script, and then I'd reboot and could use the 2nd partition successfully.
It's still a little aggravating that any reboot of the phone will cause all of my "Linked" apps to disappear - I've played with this until I am blue in the face, and have resigned myself to accepting that this is just "how it is" (?) - but I'm now using Titanium Backup as my workaround.
STEPS I TAKE WHEN THE PHONE REBOOTS:
1) Go into Link2Sd and make sure the 2nd partition is usable, otherwise recreate mount scripts (deleting wallpapers/Apollo if necessary)
2) Under Link2SD's "More" menu, perform the following:
a) Clean up the 2nd partition
b) Clean up the dalvik-cache
c) Clear all app caches
3) Restore apps from Titanium Backup
a) starting with Facebook app (the biggest hog) and then immediately go and make Facebook a "Linked" app again
b) restore a few more apps (to internal/phone), then go and shuffle those over to "Linked" apps via Link2SD
c) (repeat step 'b' until all apps are restored and "Linked" via Link2SD
^ This is the only way I've been able to get this to work for me... but now I can put about as many apps on the phone as I'll ever possibly need, and I have to say everything is running pretty smoothly now - but if anyone can see a better way, or how to improve what I'm doing, then I'm all ears... please let me (us) know.
Thanks!

Apex launcher doesn't lose the icons. I can free about 66MB of system space by swapping the launcher, deleting CM wallpapers, live wallpaper and Google keyboard.
I verified link2SD plus was not working properly but free link2SD works as advertised. For me, just installing the plus version will break the working functions of the free version. The free version scripts, links and launcher icons survive reboots. The plus version continually lost mount and wouldn't properly clean up the second partition and was not copying the lib files and placing them in the second partition.
Edit: per the developer's request, after verifying free link2SD was setup and surviving reboots, I added plus link2SD and rebooted: OK so far. Next I linked a file with plus version; OK until reboot. The application was not found except in directories. Dalvik cache cleanup finds the dex link and file in second partition as unneeded files. Had to manually delete all the files and links for the broken application and reinstall it. Also had to uninstall plus link2SD to properly link again. Sent the results back to developer.
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Edit: 6/20/2014; link2SD 3.4.8 fixed the reboot issue for the link2SD Plus version for me. Sent email to developer to thank him for the fix.
See post #8.

Update on my last entry:
I emailed the link2SD developer and got a reply asking me to check the plus version again. In my reply back I linked him to this thread.
Another tip to add for nightly flashers that use link2SD and modify the zip prior to flashing: pull the mount script, 11link2SD, found at /system/etc/init.d and move it same location on zip before flashing. If retaining data, ie: dirty flashing; the mount securely retains your apps after flashing new nightly. Just checked with free version of link2SD: works.
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Arson Smith said:
I am super-curious if & how anyone here is using Link2SD successfully with CM11 (on the Epic 4G, specifically).
I've tried scouring these forums, and the Internet in general, to figure out the best way to get this to work...
But everything that I've tried, it all seems to be working great, only up until the first time that the phone reboots, then it all goes to hell.
I am wondering if there are any extra steps to follow, specifically for the Epic 4G, or any particular pitfalls known to avoid?
That's why I wanted to ask here, specifically to Epic 4G users...
If you are getting Link2SD to work well with CM11, then please chime in here, and can you explain how you got it all set up and working well?
(I feel like this is the one last thing that if I could conquer it, then I could really continue to get a lot of life out of this phone... as it stands, it seems too risky to put much faith in Link2SD, because if the phone happens to spontaneously reboot while I'm out running around, then I'm screwed because so many apps just disappear, and then it's a pain to re-download, re-install, and re-setup each of them...)
Thanks in advance for any help,
AS
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I'm using link2SD for all minus 16gb internal android device. Here is what i do in epic 4g, currently on CM11 20140523, use 20131209 gapps. I just write the part involved link2sd :
1. Buy atleast 16gb microSD and class 10 is a must, make 2nd partition (usually about 4gb - 6gb) as ext2 - ext4 (depends on the OS).
2. Device rooted, install titanium backup & root explorer 3.1.3 (make sure the root explorer working). Uninstall system apk (one of the launcher, whisper push, terminal emulator (I prefer use better terminal emulator, install as user app), CM filemanager, etc - still more that can be uninstalled for more space in system.
3. install link2SD, pick ext2 - ext4 (depends), dont restart yet. go to setting, uncheck everything then restart.
4. After back to launcher, open root explorer, go to root/data/, check app & dalvik-cache folder, press copy. Go to sdext2 folder, delete lost&found folder (usually there), and paste. So the app & dalvik-cache folder is there now (you could copy data/data folder too if you really want maximum extra space in internal, but in epic 4g i didn't copy data folder because it's enough space).
5. At the sdext2 folder, long press app folder, select "link to this folder", go to root/data/, press "create link" - "yes". Then go to sdext2 folder again, long press dalvik-cache folder, select "link to this folder", go to root/data/, press "create link" - "yes". Do the same if you copy data/data folder to sdext2 folder.
6. Reboot. Done. Then installing others app or restore with titanium backup.
I hope this is useful. Some Screenshot attached.

Hello
Thanks for that solution.
I`m searching for this solution since 1-2 weeks.
I had the same Problem on xcover 2 Link2SD.
Now it`s clear i have installt Link2SD and works perfect for just 3-4 days then i upgrade to Link2SD plus and then it happend like the Threat above.
I`m wondering that Lin2SD works perfectly on CM11 and if you go to Link2SD plus for money and this don`t work.
Free works perfectly and paid work not.
I have go back and everything its fine.
I hope the autor will fix the problem then i go back to plus.
Thank Thanks Thanks works fine!
regards marle.m

Good news! It appears the link2SD version 3.4.8 released today has a bug fix to survive reboots for linked apps when linking with link2SD plus version.
So far, I've only linked one app with plus version enabled and it survived one reboot. Then Ⓘ linked the data folder and rebooted again which also survived the reboot.
Looks like plus version is fully functional; I'll update if it fails some time later.
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Finally had a chance to sit down and mess with this...
Yeah! Success! Freeing up space in /system worked.
Next question...Will I have to remove the bloat prior to flashing from now on? ie no more CyanDelta easy flashing
Anyone have any Scripting-Fu to come up with an automated method of stripping out said bloat?
thx sno

Snoshrk said:
Finally had a chance to sit down and mess with this...
Yeah! Success! Freeing up space in /system worked.
Next question...Will I have to remove the bloat prior to flashing from now on? ie no more CyanDelta easy flashing
Anyone have any Scripting-Fu to come up with an automated method of stripping out said bloat?
thx sno
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I was thinking the gapps could be modified at the updater-script to remove some system bloat. Then remove some bloat from that as well. Most remove their own bloat choices so maybe a diy tut would be more useful?
I agree, the script would make the nightly flashing easier.
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Just realized that if using Link2SD Plus to multi link all folders of an app to sdext2 after a clean install is still broken, if using intended method. Apps linked this way are missing after reboot.
Working on a safer suggested method that focuses more on removing apps from Gapps but also removing some other system apps after flashing a nightly that requires no modification of the nightly zip on a computer. Have to focus on linking only a minimum amount of apps with free Link2SD considered less risky to move, like larger stand alone apps, not needed tools.
I've got a working script and method that works but the risks to be avoided need to be detailed along with the tut to script and tool your own modified Gapps that minimizes the flash to flashing the nightly as-is and then flashing a custom Gapps that includes preferred launcher and restore methods.
Removing CMWallpapers, Apollo music and Trebuchet launcher. Substituting blacked out Google play. Replacing removed apps with Apex beta test launcher for test group, blacked out Pandora (these will be installed at /data partition where they can be easily uninstalled or updated) I use my own borrowed wallpaper.
Along with the removed bloat from Gapps, this frees a bit more than 40 MB of system space.
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UPDATE: the latest version of Link2SD (3.5.2) has "fixed the bug that causes linked apps disappear on reboot when internal data is linked".
So... if you've also ponied up the buck or two for Link2SD Plus (as I have), then this finally works again like you'd always hoped it would.
I just loaded a bazillion apps back on the phone, and have been able to reboot multiple times without losing them.
The only time I "lost" them for a moment was after flashing to the latest CM11 nightly, but then doing the "Recreate mount scripts" and reboot brought them right back, with no other shenanigans necessary.
(Just wanted to let people know, because this is such a relief to me now....)
HURRAY!

OK I'm trying this again. Reboots are fine as long as I don't select quick or soft reboots; I lose mount, linked apps not installed.
Now need to try the clean install of nightly.

Snoshrk said:
Finally had a chance to sit down and mess with this...
Yeah! Success! Freeing up space in /system worked.
Next question...Will I have to remove the bloat prior to flashing from now on? ie no more CyanDelta easy flashing
Anyone have any Scripting-Fu to come up with an automated method of stripping out said bloat?
thx sno
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One possible solution:

more scripts to limit steps
Another possible solution (click link)