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[Q] Moving EVERYTHING to SDcard or just "a part" ??

Hey Guys! Im new on this forum (even though i have made this account some time ago, i never used it )
So.. i just Rooted my HTC Desire, which i've been so afraid of. But now i had to to it regarding the lack of SD-card installing.. BUT! now i installed this neat app called something like "app2sd" which unlocks the installing to SD-card, but it just unlocks the feature like the FroYo update unlocked, just on some other apps?
So my question is.. CAN i move the WHOLE app to my SD-Card, and can i do it without flashing a custom rom or whatever? (which i am afraid of doing) because i want some of those GAMELOFT apps and the main app does still fill up some space unfortunately..
I hope you get what i'm saying (im not the best at english, but im trying )
If you didnt understand me, and want to help me, just tell me and ill try slicing it in pieces
Thanks in advance!
- Mathias

Well the froyo a2sd do in fact move the full app. It just leaves data and dalvik cache behind on /data. But to answer your question, yes it is possible, but the best implementations of a2sd is found in the custom roms. Those are also a natural extend, when you have rooted your phone. And btw. there is no risk involved in flashing a custom rom at all. The risky part is the root process itself.
If you want proper a2sd, you must go about it in the following steps:
1. backup all files on you sd-card to your computer
2. install rom manager
3. in rom manager choose to partition your sd-card. Just pick 512 for ext, 0 for swap and the rest for fat32
4. Move all your stuff back to the sd-card, which should now show up as being 512 mb smaller
5. Pick a custom rom and download the zip file like leedroid, if you like the stock look(or find a flashable zip containing the files for a2sd)
6. backup anything necessary and flash the zip through recovery
edit: and btw. don't excuse your english. It's not bad compared to many other people on this board

mortenmhp said:
Well the froyo a2sd do in fact move the full app. It just leaves data and dalvik cache behind on /data. But to answer your question, yes it should be possible, but the best implementations of a2sd is found in the custom roms. Those are also a natural extend, when you have rooted your phone. And btw. there is no risk involved in flashing a custom rom at all. The risky part is the root process itself.
If you want proper a2sd, you must go about it in the following steps:
1. backup all files on you sd-card to your computer
2. install rom manager
3. in rom manager choose to partition your sd-card. Just pick 512 for ext, 0 for swap and the rest for fat32
4. Move all your stuff back to the sd-card, which should now show up as being 512 mb smaller
5. Pick a custom rom and download the zip file like leedroid, if you like the stock look(or find a flashable zip containing the files for a2sd)
6. backup anything necessary and flash the zip through recovery
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Thanks for the fast answer!
Well its not for breaking my phone im afraid of using custom ROM, my problem is that theres always some issues, and i've heard something about the RADIO or some stuff??
But if theres a custom ROM based on the FroYo which allows me to move EVERYTHING from my internal to external, which would you recommend, and wheres a good spot to find alot of those roms?
By the way, i also want them in danish language!

Well as for stability, those completely based on the stock roms(leedroid) are just as stable as the htc-ones. And if you are already on froyo, updating the radio shouldn't be necessary. And the only roms without danish language on here is the one labeled miui(some chinese custom rom) btw. im danish myself.
But the way you want to completely move /data to /sd-ext is called data2ext, and i personally wouldn't recommend it, as everything gets kind of laggy in my experience. This is due to the sd-card being much slower in read/write rates than the nand chip, so keep as much as possible internal without filling it up. I would recommend a2sd+ instead, which should give you plenty of space for apps as well
A great rom build on std. htc with a2sd+ is leedroid as already mentioned or auraxtsense, if you want a different theme.

Yea I see but let's keep it English as some people might find it useful :b
But now I ran into another problem .. which is, that I know used that app2sd unlocker and now I can't put widgets on my homescreen from the apps? Like handcent sms if you know it?
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

Yes that is because the froyo a2sd solution stores the apps on the fat32 partition which is not initialized before late in the bootprocess meaning the apps is not accessible when widgets are loaded. So using froyo a2sd you should keep apps with widgets on internal.
But with a2sd+ on leedroid or a similar Rom this won't be a problem as the ext partition is initialized early in the boot process. So go with one of the custom roms. That would be my recommendation

Alright then.. but is my data from my apps stored on my sdcard? Like I have "3gwatchdog", and it has stored all of my data transfers. Is that saved when I back up my sdcard and just install the program on my custom Rom?
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

No, data from apps is still stored on the internal memory
The ONLY way to get it all onto the SD card is to use a custom ROM which includes Data2SD - but it's still a bit buggy and can lead to a quicker death of your SD card

So theres no way, that I can save my stats from my apps, so I can restore them on my custom Rom??
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

mathiasb2 said:
So theres no way, that I can save my stats from my apps, so I can restore them on my custom Rom??
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App
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Titanium backup.

TheGhost1233 said:
Titanium backup.
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Thanks for telling me about that app! But my problem as I see it now, is that when I wanna use Titanium backup, I do need "busybox" and busybox fails when I try to install it? On the market it also says that HTC Desire is not supported?
- what am I supposed to do then?
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[Q] Slow Starting Apps with Sandvolds ICS

Hi all,
I wann try Sandvolds ICS with my aged Desire, but apps are starting very slow and there are often FCs.
I read the dev thread very carefully, thats why i bought an class 10 micro sd card.
I'm running cm7r2 hboot with stock kernel and stock a2sd and a 2gb ext4 partition.
cache2sd enabled
dalvikcache2sd enabled
ive tried nearly everything.
Thx
Okay I just disabled cache2sd and it seems a lil bit faster, but not really satisfying.
Has anybody same troubles??

Try Data++ SPL

bortak said:
Try Data++ SPL
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Im not shure what another hboot should change?
The only thing it changes is the space for /system and /data
/cache has the same value at all
Thx

Drunken-Monkey said:
The only thing it changes is the space for /system and /data
/cache has the same value at all
Thx
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It means more system related files can be put on the internal memory instead of the sd card. Which means faster reaction time compared to your phone reading those system related files on the sdcard

stankyou said:
It means more system related files can be put on the internal memory instead of the sd card. Which means faster reaction time compared to your phone reading those system related files on the sdcard
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Yep, I got that...
but as I understand a2sd right, all data will be moved to /sd-ext/data and linked to /data or /app. Correct me if I am wrong.
Anyway, things are getting more and more complicated.
After disabling cache2sd im not able to install apps from store. Play store tells me not enough space...
Sorry... I can install apps, but the update for google maps wasn't successfull
Sorry for all that stupid questions, but i really want ICS

Drunken-Monkey said:
Yep, I got that...
but as I understand a2sd right, all data will be moved to /sd-ext/data and linked to /data or /app. Correct me if I am wrong.
Anyway, things are getting more and more complicated.
After disabling cache2sd im not able to install apps from store. Play store tells me not enough space...
Sorry... I can install apps, but the update for google maps wasn't successfull
Sorry for all that stupid questions, but i really want ICS
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1) Do a full wipe. Boot, system, data, dalvic, cache.
2) Flash Data++
3) Flash ICS and enable A2SD
It's not healthy to mess around with those settings once it's already been installed. Jus' sayin'.

bortak said:
1) Do a full wipe. Boot, system, data, dalvic, cache.
2) Flash Data++
3) Flash ICS and enable A2SD
It's not healthy to mess around with those settings once it's already been installed. Jus' sayin'.
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Alright, i'll figure it out tomorrow and tell u if it has worked.
I really appreciate ur answers!
THX

Hi all,
today i've added the cache2sd option in the a2sd script again.
for non obvious reson, i can update/install all apps again and my desire is now fast as it was pronounced in the dev thread.
i dunno what changed... soo?!
anway thx 4 the help

I had this issue, it was to do with the way I was installing a2sd. My apps took a little while to load or occasionally would pop up with a not responding messaging asking to close or wait. Usually if you clicked wait the app would load up.
Basically when you install a2sd on the terminal it asks you if you want to move apps data if you click no to it you'll find that apps will start loading quicker.
That worked for me, now every time I flash the updates to ICS I do it that way and my apps have been fine.

Rezaei12 said:
I had this issue, it was to do with the way I was installing a2sd. My apps took a little while to load or occasionally would pop up with a not responding messaging asking to close or wait. Usually if you clicked wait the app would load up.
Basically when you install a2sd on the terminal it asks you if you want to move apps data if you click no to it you'll find that apps will start loading quicker.
That worked for me, now every time I flash the updates to ICS I do it that way and my apps have been fine.
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Hi,
the weird thing is, i enabled all 2sd options, like in the first try and now it works lika a charm

Weird, the main thing is it's working though I guess!

*SOLVED*[Market crashing constantly]-The app Market(process com.android.vending)

I just installed cyanogen mod 7.2 stable(It's a clean install and i have wiped every thing) following that installed the latest gapps package(gapps-gb-20110828-signed).
The market would not even load and crash constantly.
I have tried these tips:
1.Cleared data and cache (settings-> applications-> market -> Then clearing cache)
2.Wiped Dalvik cache
3.Fixed permissions.
4.Changed "language"
5.Re-installed gapps package.
All this was to no avail.
Downloaded "jelly bean" market and installed it.
Now the market would load ok but it crashes when i try to download some application.It sucks.
Any suggestion ?

Try Increase your MTD Partition if you have any... It should fix it... If not, delete your account from the settings (Accounts) and log on while opening PlayStore. Hope it helps.

Have you flashed the right Gapps? Some of the latest ones are for ICS Users and i have found they dont work.
Just google "Gapps" and then find the one without ICS
Hope this helps

MacGyver Jack said:
Have you flashed the right Gapps? Some of the latest ones are for ICS Users and i have found they dont work.
Just google "Gapps" and then find the one without ICS
Hope this helps
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Not working....yes,I am flashing the right gapps zip.
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/wiki/Latest_Version/Google_Apps
I have also verified the MD5 checksum.

olu.danNY said:
Try Increase your MTD Partition if you have any... It should fix it... If not, delete your account from the settings (Accounts) and log on while opening PlayStore. Hope it helps.
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Deleting the account and factory reset is not working....even installing the CM 7.2 again and again is not working.
What does it have to do with MTD partition ?I have got sufficient internal memoery as i told you that it's a clean install and I don't have any app installed on my device except custom CM apps.

What about going to Setting > Manage applications > Market > Force close
I know you may have tried it and seems silly but i had a problem updating my apps and i did this and everything seems to work. What about a reboot?
Edit: I found this temporary workaround so see if this helps!
Here is what I did:
1- go to app manager from settings,
2- uninstall the latest version of google play store
3- clear data and cache of google play store
4- install version Google Play Store v3.5.19
5- when you open the market, google will still prompt you to update to the latest version (dont continue, leave it as it is)
6- if you want to update/install the apps do it thru the browser in your phone/computer (it will straight away update in your phone)

optimusodd said:
Deleting the account and factory reset is not working....even installing the CM 7.2 again and again is not working.
What does it have to do with MTD partition ?I have got sufficient internal memoery as i told you that it's a clean install and I don't have any app installed on my device except custom CM apps.
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If you have Custom MTD partition, the issue may be, you have a low space reserved for System (Where GAPPS are installed) and more for Data.
Try using 175, 15... It is sufficent enough to run smoothly.
Cheers.

olu.danNY said:
If you have Custom MTD partition, the issue may be, you have a low space reserved for System (Where GAPPS are installed) and more for Data.
Try using 175, 15... It is sufficent enough to run smoothly.
Cheers.
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Ah hell,why the hell didn't I ever think of this ?
Thanks for the life saving tip ,still not sure though if it was market version related or the system partition related.
Increased the partitons to [mtd 175 15].Market took a while,got updated to version 3.7.13 and it's working now.Really appreciate your help.
BTW,How did you figure out that [mtd 175 15] will work on "CM 7.2 Stable"?Just wondering can’t we take some more space from “system”.I have had [mtd 140 5] working well with "CM Nightly”.
Not sure how much we can take from system to flash CM 7.2 Stable but I guess we can still reduce "cache" to 5MB.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1233340
What do you think ?

optimusodd said:
Ah hell,why the hell didn't I ever think of this ?
Thanks for the life saving tip ,still not sure though if it was market version related or the system partition related.
Increased the partitons to [mtd 175 15].Market took a while,got updated to version 3.7.13 and it's working now.Really appreciate your help.
BTW,How did you figure out that [mtd 175 15] will work on "CM 7.2 Stable"?Just wondering can’t we take some more space from “system”.I have had [mtd 140 5] working well with "CM Nightly”.
Not sure how much we can take from system to flash CM 7.2 Stable but I guess we can still reduce "cache" to 5MB.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1233340
What do you think ?
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I use mtd 140 20. Reducing the cache to 10 caused the force closing of market for me.

saadislam said:
I use mtd 140 20. Reducing the cache to 10 caused the force closing of market for me.
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Are you sure you are running "CM 7.2 Stable" on HTC Buzz(Wildfire).
I tried [mtd 140 5] and it was causing "The application Market (process com.android.vending) has stopped unexpectedly. (FORCE CLOSE)".

optimusodd said:
Are you sure you are running "CM 7.2 Stable" on HTC Buzz(Wildfire).
I tried [mtd 140 5] and it was causing "The application Market (process com.android.vending) has stopped unexpectedly. (FORCE CLOSE)".
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Try [mtd 140 20] . Like I said before reducing cache gave me force close. This configuration works fine for me. I was using cm7.2 stable since its release but now I am using lewa with the same partitions.
Sent from my HTC Wildfire using XDA

Don't ever, EVER underestimate olu.danNY's advice!
And search a lil' before posting... I've had the same problem not so long ago:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1689239

I found out the partition size because I also wanted more space for Data as I don't like installing apps on SD (It can easily get corrupted as you use the SD with your PC during File Transfer, etc and or malfunction as some SD cards aren't that strong and I don't trust any!). That partition made it run.
Another way you can increase your partion size is simply by taking out pre-installed apps and or ringtones/notifications, etc you feel you don't need (My style). Anyway, I run Erwin P's ICS on Wildy now while having a backup of my CM7 incase I need to use the Camera/Video app again... LOL (I haven't tried using the dual booting thing... Always speculating, say I am lazy... Will try that out someday soon).
Anyways... Glad you have your phone working now.
Cheers.

olu.danNY said:
I found out the partition size because I also wanted more space for Data as I don't like installing apps on SD (It can easily get corrupted as you use the SD with your PC during File Transfer, etc and or malfunction as some SD cards aren't that strong and I don't trust any!). That partition made it run.
Another way you can increase your partion size is simply by taking out pre-installed apps and or ringtones/notifications, etc you feel you don't need (My style). Anyway, I run Erwin P's ICS on Wildy now while having a backup of my CM7 incase I need to use the Camera/Video app again... LOL (I haven't tried using the dual booting thing... Always speculating, say I am lazy... Will try that out someday soon).
Anyways... Glad you have your phone working now.
Cheers.
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I kind of agree with most of your post,I only ever use ext for sense roms.
You say " Another way you can increase your partion size is simply by taking out pre-installed apps and or ringtones/notifications, etc you feel you don't need" I now what you mean but this doesn't increase your partition size,removing files etc from system only frees up space in the partition not increase it. Custom mtd is the only method I know to increase system partition. Regards slym.
MokeeOS

slymobi said:
I kind of agree with most of your post,I only ever use ext for sense roms.
You say " Another way you can increase your partion size is simply by taking out pre-installed apps and or ringtones/notifications, etc you feel you don't need" I now what you mean but this doesn't increase your partition size,removing files etc from system only frees up space in the partition not increase it. Custom mtd is the only method I know to increase system partition. Regards slym.
MokeeOS
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Sorry... I guess that ain't clear enough... What I meant is this... Remove some stuffs from the ROM and Increase your Custom MTD partition... For example, if 100, 10 makes it run smoothly without edit, after edit, 90, 10 might run it good giving you extra 10MB for data... Hope I am clear here.
Cheers.
Sorry for double posting... Connection ish...
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slymobi said:
I kind of agree with most of your post,I only ever use ext for sense roms.
You say " Another way you can increase your partion size is simply by taking out pre-installed apps and or ringtones/notifications, etc you feel you don't need" I now what you mean but this doesn't increase your partition size,removing files etc from system only frees up space in the partition not increase it. Custom mtd is the only method I know to increase system partition. Regards slym.
MokeeOS
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Sorry... I guess that ain't clear enough... What I meant is this... Remove some stuffs from the ROM and Increase your Custom MTD partition... For example, if 100, 10 makes it run smoothly without edit, after edit, 90, 10 might run it good giving you extra 10MB for data... Hope I am clear here.
Cheers.

HipHopBlond said:
Don't ever, EVER underestimate olu.danNY's advice!
And search a lil' before posting... I've had the same problem not so long ago:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1689239
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TBH I had done enough research to fix the issue.I did what one usually would have considered good research else it shouldn't have taken more than 5 endless days and nights
Even on CM forums,Android forums and several blogs.Don't know why couldn't find your post.
Anyway,"olu.danNY's" advice helped me else i was going to ditch CM7 for some other ROM .In my opinoin there should be a thread where users can update their working MTD partitions regarding their ROMs.
Right now I am running CM 7.2 Stable with [mtd 140 15] and some other users are running it even with [mtd 130 15]. i.e cache partiton was the root of the trouble.

olu.danNY said:
I found out the partition size because I also wanted more space for Data as I don't like installing apps on SD (It can easily get corrupted as you use the SD with your PC during File Transfer, etc and or malfunction as some SD cards aren't that strong and I don't trust any!). That partition made it run.
Another way you can increase your partion size is simply by taking out pre-installed apps and or ringtones/notifications, etc you feel you don't need (My style). Anyway, I run Erwin P's ICS on Wildy now while having a backup of my CM7 incase I need to use the Camera/Video app again... LOL (I haven't tried using the dual booting thing... Always speculating, say I am lazy... Will try that out someday soon).
Anyways... Glad you have your phone working now.
Cheers.
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I also prefer removing pre-installed apps using TB but that doesn't really help you that much.
Custom MTD partition does the real rescue and you can also use "S2E" to gain more space by moving apps to Ext partition e.g games,maps.Just make sure you don't move app data to Ext.

SOLVED
P.S. Don't attempt to shrink the cache partition "too much".
Keep it(Cache) ≥ 15

optimusodd said:
SOLVED
P.S. Don't attempt to shrink the cache partition "too much".
Keep it(Cache) ≥ 15
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YMMV - especially with CM7. It has been mentioned a few times over the forum that CM7 has a bind script which makes your whole /data partition used as cache - as long as it's activated (default) and not corrupted there shouldn't be any problems with the play store. No idea regarding other situations but I know of people running a 5MB cache partition on CM7...

eventcom said:
YMMV - especially with CM7. It has been mentioned a few times over the forum that CM7 has a bind script which makes your whole /data partition used as cache - as long as it's activated (default) and not corrupted there shouldn't be any problems with the play store. No idea regarding other situations but I know of people running a 5MB cache partition on CM7...
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Yep,I know CM7 has some sort of script that automatically moves cache to data partition if it overflows(larger than the cache size).
I have had [mtd 140 5] working well with "CM Nightly”.
No idea why it is causing trouble with CM7.2-Stable. Maybe it's lacking that script which makes it sufficent enough to run smoothly if cahce partition is <15.

Storage issues with Link2SD

I've rooted my phone about a week ago and have been fiddling around with all the different things i can do with the phone, but my main reason for doing it was to help with the crap internal storage it has. So i got Link2SD setup and partitioned my SD card with a second ex2 partition, and for a while it will work well, i will have around 70-80mb listed as free on my internal but that won't really change much even when adding and linking new files with l2sd, but lately i've been running into a problem where it will drop down to 10-20 mb and just stay there. I've already tried formatting and doing a clean install which will fix it for a day or so, but it keeps dropping low and staying there even when i delete things to clean up space. I've clean installed 4 times already with the same effect, and now it's getting annoying since i started fresh yesterday and had the issue come up almost instantly, wiped again and now i'm already back at the same spot.. is there some folder that is filling up that i'm unaware of? I'm just very confused about this issue now hah, any help would be greatly appreciated

Link2sd doesn't prevent your phone from thinking that internal storage is full, I think.
I'd recommend trying s2e instead.
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"You can overclock as much as you want, your phone will always seem too slow."

hmm, s2e won't run on stock rom will it? i think i've read that it will only run on cm7/9

Hmm. When I was new to link 2 sd I had same problem. Don't worry I got a fix. ^_^
1.Uninstall stupid system apps you don't use. We need to make space in system partition.
2. Download titanium backup and when u open it. Go to options select integrate davlic cache into rom. It'll take few minutes, when it's complete reboot.
3. Make sure all files are linked.
4. Clear cache occasionally.
5. If you still are low on space you may use this command as the last option.
Warning: you may have to reboot phone after installing a new app to run it for first time.
Go to terminal
Type 'su'
Accept superuser request.
Type 'a2sd cachesd'
Phone will reboot and may take some time to start.
6. That should be it. I'm running cm9 with link 2 sd and I have more than 100 apps still I got 75 mb free.
Sent from my Wildfire S A510e using xda app-developers app

When you flash a new rom, make sure first thing you do is installation of Link2SD.
Tick auto link on it, and then install whatever you want.
It's how I solved that problem.
Now I have 107 apps installed with Link2SD, and around ~40mb of free internal space.
Sent from my HTC Wildfire S A510e using xda premium

Try deleting files in /data/tombstones (if there is any), using a file explorer.

Many apps will save their data in your internal memory, even if they're linked to your SD. There are some programs (like S2E) that can move all your data to your SD but you may loose performance if you don't have a fast SD. One alternative is using Titanium Backup to move to SD data of individual apps, this way you can keep in your internal memory the data you want to access quickly (ie your contacts) and you move to SD all the other data. The process is reversible and if you think it slows down too much a specifc app you can move back its data to internal memory.
To do dat you have to go to "Copy/Restore" in Titanium Backup, long-press one app and scroll down until you find the option "Move app data to SD".
This way I've been able to save about 60 MB of additional internal memory and I haven't noticed any change in performance.
An additional advantage is that this Titanium Backup feature is available in the free version; the Dalvik cache integration proposed in a previous post is locked if you don't have PRO version.

Linking /data/data app files for free?
Ferri64 said:
To do dat you have to go to "Copy/Restore" in Titanium Backup, long-press one app and scroll down until you find the option "Move app data to SD".
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Hi,
Can anyone confirm if this is still true. I've just installed Titanium Backup Free v5.5.2 and in the "Backup/Restore" screen I follow the instructions above and see a 'Move to SD card' option, but no 'Move app data to SD' option. Choosing the 'Move to SD card' option does not move the app data. Is it still available in the free app?
I'm very happy with link2sd with my stock rom HTC Wildfire S except that it doesn't offer me the ability to selectively link /data/data application files. Perhaps there's another linking app that does a more complete job? I've seen this thread mention simple2ext but that seems to require Cyanogenmod.
Cheers,
Mark

marky1124 said:
Hi,
Can anyone confirm if this is still true. I've just installed Titanium Backup Free v5.5.2 and in the "Backup/Restore" screen I follow the instructions above and see a 'Move to SD card' option, but no 'Move app data to SD' option.
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I can provide an answer to my own question here. It turns out that the 'Move app data to sd card' option only appears if Titanium Backup sees a valid mount point, as per this documentation: http://www.titaniumtrack.com/kb/titanium-backup-kb/titanium-backup-technical-faq.html#requirements-for-using-move-app-data-to-sd
If you have a phone like mine (Wildfire S, stock rom v2.3.5) then you don't have one of the TB supported mount points so you have to create it yourself using Terminal Emulator and Busybox
e.g.
Code:
$ su
# ln -s /data/sdext2 /data/sd
# mkdir /data/sdext2/app
Also I've now discovered that for the functionality to work properly the second partition must be a unix filesystem type like ext2, ext3 or ext4, but not vfat (FAT32) since that doesn't allow TB to create symbolic links.
There's more discussion of this and gory details on this thread
Cheers,
Mark

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sukhjit321 said:
Hmm. When I was new to link 2 sd I had same problem. Don't worry I got a fix. ^_^
5. If you still are low on space you may use this command as the last option.
Warning: you may have to reboot phone after installing a new app to run it for first time.
Go to terminal
Type 'su'
Accept superuser request.
Type 'a2sd cachesd'
Phone will reboot and may take some time to start.
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Brother u are a life saver, I just followed your syntax and it worked like charm. I am now having 98 mb of internal memory from 38mb.
But have Couple of question for u....
1. Can u tell me if I have to run this command again and again after installing new apps or will it work on its own if once executed?
2. I have link2sd installed before this command and have linked all the files to 2nd partion of my sd card.
Is it safe to uninstall link2sd app now?

Rahul2929 said:
Brother u are a life saver, I just followed your syntax and it worked like charm. I am now having 98 mb of internal memory from 38mb.
But have Couple of question for u....
1. Can u tell me if I have to run this command again and again after installing new apps or will it work on its own if once executed?
2. I have link2sd installed before this command and have linked all the files to 2nd partion of my sd card.
Is it safe to uninstall link2sd app now?
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1. You only need this command again when the memory runs way too low. Don't try it again coz it reduces performance too.
2. I guess you can/ I've never tried it tough.

I ran into problem with your command...it force closes some of my apps which I noticed later ....
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I had the same problem a while ago that i had to reflash the rom because apps were force closing all the time
The reason this happened was because i downloaded several apps at the same time, so Link2SD didnt had enough time to link all files
and the internal memory became full and went crazy
the only solution for me was deleting all apps and reinstalling them
so my recommendation would be not to download more than 1 app at the same time, wait for Link2SD to link files, and then download the next one

Actually I did that I did a factory reset and then ran the command..bt after that my internal apps was also force closing like playstore,etc
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I think Link2sd and DTa2sd can't run at the same time. You'll be get FC everytime install new apps.
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stupid but effective method
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I've rooted my phone about a week ago and have been fiddling around with all the different things i can do with the phone, but my main reason for doing it was to help with the crap internal storage it has. So i got Link2SD setup and partitioned my SD card with a second ex2 partition, and for a while it will work well, i will have around 70-80mb listed as free on my internal but that won't really change much even when adding and linking new files with l2sd, but lately i've been running into a problem where it will drop down to 10-20 mb and just stay there. I've already tried formatting and doing a clean install which will fix it for a day or so, but it keeps dropping low and staying there even when i delete things to clean up space. I've clean installed 4 times already with the same effect, and now it's getting annoying since i started fresh yesterday and had the issue come up almost instantly, wiped again and now i'm already back at the same spot.. is there some folder that is filling up that i'm unaware of? I'm just very confused about this issue now hah, any help would be greatly appreciated
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i have the same problem and the solution (2 steps) is a bit stupid but here it is:
1 - go into (manage applications) in settings and wait till it calculate the storage of every app (under every app's name), where you will find that the memore increased usually from 12 mb to abou 20 mb.
2 - you have to go into link2sd app and do one of these 3 things:
1. link library files
2. link dalvic cache files
3. clear cache (not clear dalvic cache)
one of these options or more will do the track. now check storage and you will find more 30 or 40 mb
if anyone know a good application that links data too, i'l be very thankful

I am using link2sd with ext3 partition created through cwm recovery after re booting some apps disappear and i have to install them again
Any fix?
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[Q] Manually transfer certain app to the sd-ext (ext3/4) ?

Just wondering is there any way to manually transfer certain app to the sd-ext (ext3/4).
Any hidden setting or tweak in S2E ?
I am using S2E but it moves all your applications to sd-ext and don’t let you choose the applications that you want to move.
I only want to move games,unimportant,less frequent used or non background applications to sd-ext.I think launchers and some other apps just run better or need to be in the internal memory for max performace and to minimize battery drain.
Is there any way to get around ?

if it is moving all your apps and you want to move certain apps back then you could use an app called system cleanup. its a really useful app,once its loaded its as simple as long pressing the desired app and choosing your option. titanium backup also does the same and has a batch mode. not sure if this is what your looking for or not?
edit: miss read your post,so i dont think this will move to sdext? but may come in useful
R.V.3 (MokeeOs)

slymobi said:
if it is moving all your apps and you want to move certain apps back then you could use an app called system cleanup. its a really useful app,once its loaded its as simple as long pressing the desired app and choosing your option. titanium backup also does the same and has a batch mode. not sure if this is what your looking for or not?
edit: miss read your post,so i dont think this will move to sdext? but may come in useful R.V.3 (MokeeOs)
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As far as i understand "system cleanup" will move certain apps to "/system".That is not what we did MTD partiton for.
The problem is when you install an app,S2E moves it to sd-ext(ext3/4) and don’t let you choose the applications that you want to move.I want to manually transfer the app either to"/sd-ext" or "/sdcard" or just keep it in internal memory(/system).
e.g. App A in system
App B in /sd-ext
App C in /sdcard

optimusodd said:
As far as i understand "system cleanup" will move certain apps to "/system".That is not what we did MTD partiton for.
The problem is when you install an app,S2E moves it to sd-ext(ext3/4) and don’t let you choose the applications that you want to move.I want to manually transfer the app either to"/sd-ext" or "/sdcard" or just keep it in internal memory(/system).
e.g. App A in system
App B in /sd-ext
App C in /sdcard
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Not sure if you confuse something? Apps on sd?
And yes, you're right: s2e doesn't let you pick individual apps - but... I believe that's a good idea thinking about performance (just my opinion, though).
Any time I have the feeling an app should be in internal I'd push it to system (usually i won't run out of space there as i strip a lot of bloat out). This makes even more sense to me than using two data partitions (what you would have when selectively moving apps to sd or vice versa).
All my user apps and dalvik-cache are on sdext (so there's no need for the OS to search and less possibility to struggle). I use custom mtd partitions, too, but the internal data partition isn't useless as there's still a lot of app data...
But like i said: just my opinion ymmv.
Swyped from my HTC Wildfire (Buzz)

eventcom said:
Not sure if you confuse something? Apps on sd?
And yes, you're right: s2e doesn't let you pick individual apps - but... I believe that's a good idea thinking about performance (just my opinion, though).
This makes even more sense to me than using two data partitions (what you would have when selectively moving apps to sd or vice versa)All my user apps and dalvik-cache are on sdext (so there's no need for the OS to search and less possibility to struggle).
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Nope,I am not confused.I want to manually move selected apps to
>Internal data partition
>SD-ext(ext3/4)
>SD Card(like APP2SD let you choose the apps you want to transfer to external storage)
In short,moving only select apps to the ext-3/4 partition.
The more system related stuff you move to the SD ext, the more information it needs to pull out from the SD Card.
As i said some critical apps need to be in the internal memory for stability and performance reasons while it's better to keep some heavy apps like Offline maps or Dictionaries to external memory (FAT32 partiton).
Any time I have the feeling an app should be in internal I'd push it to system (usually i won't run out of space there as i strip a lot of bloat out).
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I don't want to push apps to system as it's size is 140 MB and out of that 23 MB is free i.e you can't push more than 2-3 apps.And if you really want,you will have to change your MTD partiton again and again.
I use custom mtd partitions, too, but the internal data partition isn't useless as there's still a lot of app data.
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As S2E moves all your apps to sd-ext and don't let you choose whether you want to move or just keep in internal data partition.Whta's the use of internal memory and SD-Card meory.My internal data partition is 310 MB.I don't think the app data can fill even half of it.Moreover 512 MB of SD-ext will get filled very soon.Well,I don't care about running about of space as I can increase the size of ext partiton,I just want it to let me choose the apps that I want to move.
Any idea ?
Thanks

optimusodd said:
Nope,I am not confused.I want to manually move selected apps to
>Internal data partition
>SD-ext(ext3/4)
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I got that well but this one
optimusodd said:
>SD Card
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is not a good idea in my eyes (and from my experience).
FAT32 might be good to store some data (nothing db related or where apps are writing onto very often)
optimusodd said:
The more system related stuff you move to the SD ext, the more information it needs to pull out from the SD Card
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and that's where I think you are at least a bit wrong... an external partition (ext2,3 or 4) is treated just the same way like /data and /system. Of course it might be a bit slower than partitions on the internal drive (and have some faults or instabilities) but it's still a system partition while the FAT32 part of the SD card uses a different format (which will definitely affect performance).
I don't want to push apps to system as it's size is 140 MB and out of that 23 MB is free i.e you can't push more than 2-3 apps.And if you really want,you will have to change your MTD partiton again and again.
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nah, I don't think so - you just do it once and keep in mind that you want to push a few apps there (me for instance deletes a lot of stuff from the ROM, too... if I'm not mistaken that's more than I push back there)
As S2E moves all your apps to sd-ext and don't let you choose whether you want to move or just keep in internal data partition.Whta's the use of internal memory and SD-Card meory.My internal data partition is 310 MB.I don't think the app data can fill even half of it.
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My current stats (total/used in MB):
015/001 cache
300/249 data (= 83%)
960/368 ext
150/113 system
But I must confess that I didn't care to clean up my system recently...

Is link2sd something for u? It transfers individuale apps to and from the sd-ext partition.
Verstuurd van mijn HTC Wildfire

Hazou said:
Is link2sd something for u? It transfers individuale apps to and from the sd-ext partition.
Verstuurd van mijn HTC Wildfire
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I use the same link2sd and it works perfectly: it's easy to decide what applications to move to sd-ext or to keep into the internal memory.

stiven68 said:
I use the same link2sd and it works perfectly: it's easy to decide what applications to move to sd-ext or to keep into the internal memory.
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Is link2sd something for u? It transfers individuale apps to and from the sd-ext partition.
Verstuurd van mijn HTC Wildfire
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Yep,link2sd can do the job but it could be better if S2E provides the same feature and let us choose the apps that we want to move.
Well,after a long forum research i have reached a conclusion that link2sd is way better than S2E.

eventcom said:
I got that well but this oneis not a good idea in my eyes (and from my experience).FAT32 might be good to store some data (nothing db related or where apps are writing onto very often)
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Yep,i did mean dictionary and maps.
And here comes link2sd to your rescue :
It also provides native apps2sd features on Android 2.2 and higher. It can move any non-protected user apps to SD card (force move), with batch moving capability.
me for instance deletes a lot of stuff from the ROM, too... if I'm not mistaken that's more than I push back there
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Did you use TB to remove bloatwares and other unnecessary stuff ?

optimusodd said:
Yep,i did mean dictionary and maps.
And here comes link2sd to your rescue :
It also provides native apps2sd features on Android 2.2 and higher. It can move any non-protected user apps to SD card (force move), with batch moving capability.
Did you use TB to remove bloatwares and other unnecessary stuff ?
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nah, most of the time manual edit. Best practice would be to do the testing by removing the apps one by one and if you're done delete them from the ROM zip and use this as your barebone (and remember which apps are safe to remove).
Btw there are a few good hints of Slymobi and me in the LeWa thread (regarding CM7) which could be seen as an update for the barebones entry in the cyanogenmod wiki.
Swyped from my HTC Wildfire (Buzz)

optimusodd said:
Yep,link2sd can do the job but it could be better if S2E provides the same feature and let us choose the apps that we want to move.
Well,after a long forum research i have reached a conclusion that link2sd is way better than S2E.
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I dont think link2sd is way better. The just do 2 different things.
Link2sd lets u manually push or pull apps to ext. So after each new app install u need to push the app again. It is only useful when u only want a couple of ur apps to ext. It works nice if u dont want to have every app on ext.
S2E will transfer all apps, data and / or dalvik to ext. So u always have enough internal memory. This works especially well when u transfer the apps to ext, but the data not.
They are both very goods apps. U cant compare them to each other, i think. It is just what u want at that moment

eventcom said:
nah, most of the time manual edit. Best practice would be to do the testing by removing the apps one by one and if you're done delete them from the ROM zip and use this as your barebone (and remember which apps are safe to remove).
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I have never tried barebone install lol.Have you tried one ?I use TB to remove them.Using terminal emulator is another option.
there are a few good hints of Slymobi and me in the LeWa thread (regarding CM7) which could be seen as an update for the barebones entry in the cyanogenmod wiki.Swyped from my HTC Wildfire (Buzz)
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Can you share the link of your post ?

Hazou said:
Link2sd lets u manually push or pull apps to ext. So after each new app install u need to push the app again. It is only useful when u only want a couple of ur apps to ext. It works nice if u dont want to have every app on ext.
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It's possible to set link2sd to automatically move every new app to sd-ext just after the installation and then manually move back to the internal memory if necessary.

stiven68 said:
It's possible to set link2sd to automatically move every new app to sd-ext just after the installation and then manually move back to the internal memory if necessary.
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Yep i know ,
But then i dont see the point of using it, because s2e is already build into CM sort of (just need to download the interface). And with link2sd u get a massive script thats needs to be loaded. Not that it will slow down the device very much.
And with my device, link2sd sometimes wont load all the apps. But that is my experience.
Hazou

Hazou said:
Yep i know ,But then i dont see the point of using it, because s2e is already build into CM sort of (just need to download the interface). And with link2sd u get a massive script thats needs to be loaded. Not that it will slow down the device very much.
And with my device, link2sd sometimes wont load all the apps. But that is my experience.
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Here is why link2sd is better and we want to use it :
>It let us choose the apps we want to move.
>I don't want to move launchers and some other apps due to stability reasons.
>S2E moves and regenrates too much of a cache.
>S2E works only for CM roms
>link2sd provides better control
>some users have reported the issue that after sometime the apps starts to disappear in S2E.
>S2E doesn't work with Titanium Backup properly.
>S2E creates problems during Nandroid backup.I approve that.
>S2E only supports ext3/ext4
>In worst case scenario (card crash) you are gonna bang your head on the wall as it moves everything to sd ext partition.
>In S2E you can't use any application while your card is mounted as a removable disk on your PC.
Other features of link2sd :
Features:
- Create and remove link for apk, dex and lib files of the applications you select
- Automatically link newly installed apps
- Move any user apps to SD even though the app does not support moving to SD (for Android 2.2 and higher)
- Shows the apps that support moving to SD with native apps2sd (for Android 2.2 and higher)
- Set the default install location of the apps; auto, internal, or external (for Android 2.2 and higher)
- Batch link, unlink, reinstall, uninstall, "move to SD", "move to phone" functions (multi-select mode)
- Uninstall system applications
- Freeze and un-freeze system and users applications
- Convert system apps into user apps
- Convert user apps into system apps
- Integrate "Updated" system apps into system (ROM)
- Clear data and cache of the application
- Clear all apps cache at once (1-tap cache cleaner without being root)
- List applications, show detailed size information and link status
- Sort and filter applications
- Search applications by name
- Display available space information of internal storage, SD card and SD card 2nd partition
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Guess enough reasons to go with link2sd:silly:

optimusodd said:
Here is why link2sd is better and we want to use it :
>It let us choose the apps we want to move.
>I don't want to move launchers and some other apps due to stability reasons.
>S2E moves and regenrates too much of a cache.
>S2E works only for CM roms
>link2sd provides better control
>some users have reported the issue that after sometime the apps starts to disappear in S2E.
>S2E doesn't work with Titanium Backup properly.
>S2E creates problems during Nandroid backup.I approve that.
>S2E only supports ext3/ext4
>In worst case scenario (card crash) you are gonna bang your head on the wall as it moves everything to sd ext partition.
>In S2E you can't use any application while your card is mounted as a removable disk on your PC
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nothing wrong using link2sd - everybody has a different setup and different priorities. So just to tell you a different point of view: In my opinion moving apps from the stable and fast internal storage to an external partition is not a good solution at all - but if you aren't satisfied with installing just a hand full of user apps this is the only way to go. In opposite to your opinion i believe (and have the experience) that spreading the user apps onto two partitions (plus the system apps on the system partition) definitely is not more stable than just moving all apps in one place. To me this makes sense as the system needs more information about the app (where to find). It's like having two /data/app directories... I'm pretty much satisfied with my setup (s2e) and didn't have any major issues for one and a half year. I can't confirm any issues regarding cache or "lost apps". The only thing i experienced twice was the system forgot about the ext partition (which could happen with every other solution, too, afaik and hasn't been much trouble to solve).
Furthermore i really believe that the best place for the important stuff, like launcher and file manager, is in /system/app ...
But again: nothing wrong with different prefs...
Swyped from my HTC Wildfire (Buzz)