Just want to ask how come android tablets are able to upgrade to 4G but not mobile phones like our great Incredible 2 ?....Arnt they similar ?
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In tablets, such as the Xoom, there is the necessary hardware to make it work with 4G. When it comes to our phone, the hardware is only meant to work with 3G. We don't have the right radio hardware to receive a 4G LTE signal, and never will.
Also, to upgrade the xoom to 4g, it will have to be sent in to Motorola. It's not just an OTA that activates LTE.
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Does the Samsung Epic have the hardware to be Rev.B compatible?
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it is rev b compatible. you mean LTE
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it is rev b compatible. you mean LTE
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I mean will the 3g be Rev B compatible not 4g.
UPDATE: After receiving a few emails, we just wanted to stress something. Take all of this as rumor for now until official. You should always do that! Also we stated the Evo 3D and Epic Touch 4G will work if this all pans out, but its absolutely possible many other phones will. We only can confirm those two.
We just got tips from two separate sources, so lets roll with this one. Sprints network vision press conference is scheduled for October 7th of this year, where they are reportedly going to discuss their 4G network plans going forward. What has not been rumored yet is any updates and future upgrades to their existing 3G network. We just learned from our two separate sources that Sprint plans on upgrading their existing EvDO Rev A 3G network to Rev B, enabling much faster speeds on both the up and down link. We were told to expect up to 9Mbps down and 2Mbps up, enabling them to surpass every other 3G network in the US including the “4G” networks T-Mobile and ATT like to say they have. Not all current phones support EVDO Rev B, but we do know at a minimum the Evo 3D and Epic Touch 4G both in fact have Rev B compatible chips out of the box. Lets hope this one pan’s out.
I guess I answered my own question.
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I know how they are going to do that. I read a lot about they're network updates. And the way they are going to do it...just be ready for really fast speeds all around. Its going to be awhile though, don't expect much until next year though.
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androidmaster1 said:
I know how they are going to do that. I read a lot about they're network updates. And the way they are going to do it...just be ready for really fast speeds all around. Its going to be awhile though, don't expect much until next year though.
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Yeah by next year I would have upgraded to an LTE phone anyways.
No the Epic is not Rev. B compatible.
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Does anyone know of a mod or rom that has the ability to keep 3G on during a phone call, when outside of lte range? I could do this on my thunderbolt so I'm sure its possible on the nexus. I couldn't bring much up on the search. Thanks
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It works on the Thunderbolt because it has SVDO for simultaneous voice/data over CDMA 3G. The Galaxy Nexus doesn't have this to my knowledge. Its a limitation of CDMA and the chip used.
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Does anyone know of a mod or rom that has the ability to keep 3G on during a phone call, when outside of lte range? I could do this on my thunderbolt so I'm sure its possible on the nexus. I couldn't bring much up on the search. Thanks
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An SVDO chip set is needed. The galaxy nexus does not have that chip for the CDMA radio
Damn! Thanks though. I guess I have to wait for lte. Hopefully not much longer
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I am in the same boat. Verizon's next major 4G roll out is going to be in March. Hopefully my city is included. I know its been over a year since they've been upgrading towers around town. Shouldn't be too much longer
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It works on the Thunderbolt because it has SVDO for simultaneous voice/data over CDMA 3G. The Galaxy Nexus doesn't have this to my knowledge. Its a limitation of CDMA and the chip used.
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I believe it's only been on the Thunderbolt and Rezound so far.
Hello everyone, I hope to check this thread for updates (read: I'm so dumb I don't check for thread updates often *laughs*).
Anyway, as the title says, I never got 4G on my phone, even before rooting it! I obtained this phone, new, around the time Sprint (began) started adding a extra rate for all smartphones (read: all smartphones will be more expensive than "simple" phones on same plan).
I'm wondering how to get 4G on my phone that is running Cyanogenmod. I am well-versed in Linux, so if the adb shell or the bootloader is required to fix, I can follow the steps you provide. Or should I just accuse Sprint for giving me a defective phone those many, many years ago, even though I never got 4G in the first place? (since my phone is rooted atm, I doubt I could win a court case.)
I appreciate any help, even if you do not know how to fix this. (read: asking around or just reading this)
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A really dumb question but are you referring to 4G LTE or wimax?
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A really dumb question but are you referring to 4G LTE or wimax?
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4G and wimax are the same thing if you didn't know.
And OP, if you are on an ICS Rom or a JB Rom, you will not have wimax. For all you know, you might not even have 4G service in range of where you live. I personally have never even connected to a 4G network.
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i'm referring to the standard 4G pn Sprint (or whatever 4G was said to be had on "Sprint HTC Evo 4G" by Sprint)
EDIT: i'm well within the 4G area almost all day normally
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4G and wimax are the same thing if you didn't know.
And OP, if you are on an ICS Rom or a JB Rom, you will not have wimax. For all you know, you might not even have 4G service in range of where you live. I personally have never even connected to a 4G network.
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From my understand wimax AND Lte use different radios hence why any of the new lte phones like the GS3 or evo are stuck on 3g network until LTE rolls out in the area you live. Also he stated he couldn't access 4g even before so he would be on a stock gb
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From my understand wimax AND Lte use different radios hence why any of the new lte phones like the GS3 or evo are stuck on 3g network until LTE rolls out in the area you live. Also he stated he couldn't access 4g even before so he would be on a stock gb
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I didn't say Wimax and LTE are the same. I'm not sure sprint has even started putting up LTE towers.
OP, try updating Radios and PRL
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My underatanding from the other evo forum and GS3 it was supposed to be launched the 17th of this month and going off that is why I was asking which he was referring to. Op where do you live?
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I didn't say Wimax and LTE are the same. I'm not sure sprint has even started putting up LTE towers.
OP, try updating Radios and PRL
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They are not putting up old towers just lte transmitters. They use all the same till they discontinue 3g.
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And if you never have been able to get 4g then I would have brought the phone back to sprint. All their 4g phones should access it if your in the coverage zone.
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If you have had the phone for more than 6 months, which it sounds like you have, you should un-root it and take it to sprint. If that is you want 4g service. The unrooting process is generally about the same in difficulty as rooting the phone was, so if you figured that out you should be able to get it backto stock. The process is different depending on your HBoot version and how you rooted it in the first place. If you want to get your 4g fixed, post your HBoot version and root method and someone will point the way to unrooting the phone.
(to get the HBoot version, pull the battery, put it back in, hold vol down, and power on the phone. You should get into the bootloader and the HBoot version should be listed there.)
I assumed it was due to not having the 4G plan before that caused my phone to never get 4G with the plans change (read: Sprint changed plan details). I should of thought of turning it in sooner, but I was not 100% smart back then (nor will I ever be *laughs*)
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I assumed it was due to not having the 4G plan before that caused my phone to never get 4G with the plans change (read: Sprint changed plan details). I should of thought of turning it in sooner, but I was not 100% smart back then (nor will I ever be *laughs*)
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When you bought your evolution didn't they tell you that you "had" to get 4g coverage for an extra ten bucks a month?
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When you bought your evolution didn't they tell you that you "had" to get 4g coverage for an extra ten bucks a month?
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if you mean before the "smarphone charge" was told to its users (which i pay for now), then yes. otherwise no
EDIT: i mean i pay the smartphone charge; was told it included 4G on 4G phones
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Yea lots of people didn't get 4g. It's real spotty where I live.
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I should be getting 4G; even while i'm close to/in downtown (Portland, OR) I should get 4G.
*sigh* darn companies >.>
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I should be getting 4G; even while i'm close to/in downtown (Portland, OR) I should get 4G.
*sigh* darn companies >.>
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I would bring it into a store and get it tested to see if it works after you unroot, my sprint store doesn't care about root but that might not bevl the case. Then if it really doesn't work I would ***** and tell them to look up your account to show you never used 4g and see if the will give you a comp on your account.
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I never noticed any difference in speed the few times I was in California where there was 4g. I live in AZ and with sprint there is no 4g service but we still pay the fee :/
I doubt unrooting it will fully unroot it (I did edit some startup scripts since i've rooted which seemed to have no impact on my data connection (mostly for ext2 mount point on a directory "/mnt/sdcard/sd-ext" which I removed due to delayed sdcard mounting--now I use a script I manually run when I want to ... offtopic sorry >.> ), so idk if a full unroot is possible.
EDIT: *scrolls back on posts* I read that flashing someone else's radio (backed up from their device) can prevent both from using 4G at the same time. tbh, I don't know if I ever did (I hope not)
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*hopes this doesn't count as a double post*
Somehow I'm getting 4G atm... but it is in a place I tried before (many moons ago). Strange indeed.
What I just don't get is why it is now working. Did I really flash someone else's Radio? If so, was someone else with that "4G login credientals" always on when I tried before? If not, was Sprint lying to me on their online map for 3G/4G coverage?
EDIT: I want to leave this open to see if anyone has any idea as to why it was failing. Another strange finding is that it is a 1 of 3 bars 4G signal according to Cyanogenmod's standard indicator. ( +1 for tethering without having to pay over $100 USD total on Sprint)
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I've never had wimax signal at my house. Or city.
We are listed as 4g service area for "clear" wimax broadband, but they also state that it is currently not being sold here. That tells me the switch hasn't been flipped on it yet.
There is no sprint wimax one city over but they flipped the switch on "clear" broadband wimax and it's FAST.... If I get signal (its very spotty) ... . 7.4mb down. 1.14mb up.
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I was searching the intarwebz and it looks like anything more than 2 miles from the tower is pushing it for signal.
I also have the understanding that the 10$ smartphone fee is not just for 4g, but more so the nature of the beast. We have always on, always connected/pinging data devices.
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I just purchased a Sprint Galaxy Nexus 4g Lte from Amazon mobile. In spite of being a newbie I successfully rooted the phone and installed AOSP JB 4.2.1 with the help of video tutorials from Qbking77. (many thanks to him) Since activating the phone I've been shocked at how poor the signal reception is. Side by side, it's 50% worse than my old Evo 4g Wimax. I've been doing some internet research on flashing new radio ROMs to improve signal strength but candidly, the information I've found is over my head. I need a step by step explanation of what to do, (Qbking 77 has a nice video tutorial) , which ROM would work best for JB 4.2.1 on a phone running on Sprint, and finally...would it really help? I even feel like it doesn't receive wireless signals very well either.
Any help anyone can offer would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks and Happy New Year!
I do not have a Sprint model but coming from a Verizon Nexus I know that a lot of it depends on the radio you choose. Now remember that Samsung has reliable radios, they are reliable in that you should be getting better signal then you actually are lolz..
But seriously Samsung Radios suck really badly, and you will never get the same signal you did on your HTC
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That is my only gripe with the nexus so far. Poor radio signal. I think my galaxy s2 had better signals.
I would just be happy with improving the signal at this point. Amazing phone...such a disappointment to have a crappy piece of hardware in it.
If you have the latest software, you should already have the latest radio. No matter what radio you have, if Sprint has poor service in your area, you will also have poor service. Check with Sprint on any LTE or Network Vision updates in your area.
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If you have the latest software, you should already have the latest radio. No matter what radio you have, if Sprint has poor service in your area, you will also have poor service. Check with Sprint on any LTE or Network Vision updates in your area.
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Sometimes though the latest radio doesn't work best for anyone. I know that's what was the case for my CDMA Nexus, I was using a ICS CDMA radio w/JB LTE radio for the best results in my area.
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My Verizon upgrade is due in February and though I love my galaxy nexus the reception is terrible constantly in 3g. I had an s3 for about 6 months always had 4g but just missed my nexus to much and switched back despite the constant data drops..
Which phones on Verizon have the best/descent/worst antenna?
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Terry_blair said:
My Verizon upgrade is due in February and though I love my galaxy nexus the reception is terrible constantly in 3g. I had an s3 for about 6 months always had 4g but just missed my nexus to much and switched back despite the constant data drops..
Which phones on Verizon have the best/descent/worst antenna?
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do you have the latest radios for toro? i get 4g even in my woods when im riding.
Yes, this is my third nexus as well. So either the receptions sucks or I have really bad luck.
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do you have the latest radios for toro? i get 4g even in my woods when im riding.
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I don't know about the newer phones, but my brother always used to get moto phones while I got Samsung and HTC and his phone always got better signal than mine
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I don't know about the newer phones, but my brother always used to get moto phones while I got Samsung and HTC and his phone always got better signal than mine
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go to settings>about phone>baseband version= it should say for the vzw variant "I515.10 V.FK01 / I515.FK02" <-if you dont have that version,go to this ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1890585 ) and get the latest radios,since your still getting drops and bad speeds you might need to upgrade your radios.
i have the latest radios, though my question is redundant... i have had a nexus for 2 years always keeping up with the latest radios.
Same problem here. It's bad enough that in switching to T-Mobile as son as I can. I'm done with Verizon's sub par network and crap phone selection. I love my gnex but paying for 4g and rarely getting 4g to work is just not worth staying with them. I had the same problem on my Moto Bionic. I think their network is just receiving way to much traffic for it to handle and they don't have enough towers or networking to deal with it. Sorry, just my rant I had to get out.