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[Q] Evo using TMo's HSPA+(4G)?

I don't live in a 4G area and have never been to one, so forgive my ignorance.
Will the Evo be able to use T-Mobile's "4G" network? Or any other carrier's "4G"?
Kind of like a roaming call/data signal. (I know GSM/CDMA, but that's not the point)
Thanks.

No, I don't think so. LTE and HSPA require separate radios, which the Evo doesn't have.
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TheMagicalSock said:
No, I don't think so. LTE and HSPA require separate radios, which the Evo doesn't have.
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Anyone up for a new project?
I'd give up my Sprint 4g for HSPA, Since sprint hates where I live and won't give us 4G. But TMobile is expanding to my area.
Verizon is supposed to get into the 4G game and use LTE, so when that happens will the evo be able to use theirs?
(Src: Verizon preparing 4G launch for December)

Take a closer look at the first reply. The EVO doesn't have the radios to function on the other carriers. So no it will never happen.

BigRick10 said:
Take a closer look at the first reply. The EVO doesn't have the radios to function on the other carriers. So no it will never happen.
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I understand that it does not by default, be could it be ported from a tmo/vzw phone?
Like the verizon prl using verizon's 3g when its roaming?

The evo can use verizon towers through the prl hack because both carriers use cdma. The evo doesn't have the hardware to connect to hspa+/lte. Same reason why the evo won't work on a gsm carrier.
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The evo can use verizon towers through the prl hack because both carriers use cdma. The evo doesn't have the hardware to connect to hspa+/lte. Same reason why the evo won't work on a gsm carrier.
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Ahh, ok that answers it.
I thought it might have just been a software difference, didn't know the evo lacked the hardware to pickup HSPA.
Thank you for answering my question.

xNotta said:
Ahh, ok that answers it.
I thought it might have just been a software difference, didn't know the evo lacked the hardware to pickup HSPA.
Thank you for answering my question.
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Any CDMA network will work. As long as its running 802.11 fq i believe, correct me if im wrong.
But Verizon is locked out. soo......
Saw a post earlier about neckface who has a alpha app that may be able to switch you to that network. havent tried it yet. but im' downloading it right now.
heres the link:
http://db.tt/OrCO5tg
If it doesn't work for you, try rm -rf'ing /system.

bmxerkid954 said:
Any CDMA network will work. As long as its running 802.11 fq i believe, correct me if im wrong.
But Verizon is locked out. soo......
Saw a post earlier about neckface who has a alpha app that may be able to switch you to that network. havent tried it yet. but im' downloading it right now.
heres the link:
http://db.tt/OrCO5tg
If it doesn't work for you, try rm -rf'ing /system.
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Don't take this the wrong way, and it's not that I think you would intentionally try do anything malicious. But could you link to the app's source page please?
"ClickMeStupid.apk" is kind of off putting.
Going to decompile and read into what it does before I install.
My Evo made me Swype this from the XDA App.

Has anyone flashed epic touch to another carrier

I would like to know if anyone flashed their epic touch to another carrier if so which one? How is the coverage/service and does your 4g still work
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yes it is possible,it could be with boost or metro from what I know of,boost uses sprint cdma towers so its basically the same coverage as 3g that you would get from a sprint device,and no 4g does not work yet as of yet once you flash that was something I was trying to get help with,check my sig I started a thread there about the subject

I flashed mine to Alltel it runs on Verizon and I am always roaming do u think it has to do with the fact it runs on Verizon my prl is 31011 but my 4g does work
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There is no way u get 4G on Verizon unless u installed a lte radio in ur phone.... because it has wimax and Verizon uses lte for 4G
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I have no reason to lie it still works no bull****
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But it was still working when I had the phone flashed odd enough though the phone wasn't on? Well I couldn't text or call but could surf the web and connect to 4g and surf while I'm on it
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My phone is flashed to Cricket. I don't have any good Cricket PRLs for my area, so coverage is horrible and my battery took a serious hit thanks to that. You'll never have 4G. My 3G speeds are completely abysmal.
Everything still works, though, barring 4G.

My native sprint hot spot app works also
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For everybody who doesn't believe my 4g works
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So somebody tell me how do u roam on 4g????
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snoopy1e11 said:
So somebody tell me how do u roam on 4g????
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Idk y but you sir are very lucky
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Yea wish I had my 4g working

I bought it off Craigslist and da guy lied to me cuz the phone was still active on his account well I could still surf the net so I got it flashed to alltel and the guy told me 4g wouldn't work but I tried anyway and it worked flawlessly
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Very simple. It's been confirmed on another forum however, I have flashed my old Epic Touch to Cricket and it works like this...
Let me explain what I did. Lost phone, got my new one... A month later, found it. Flashed it myself to Cricket. However, I still have Sprint service for my replacement phone.
I sold the flashed phone, that person can use my 4G still. Because you can not flash the 4G wimax antenna or do anything with it for that matter, ( except disabled it with the toggle ) the 4G antenna can still receive signal from an active Sprint account. Only thing that is effected is the cdma portion of the flash including the PRL thus, 3G and talk/text is on Cricket's network (or who's ever network flashed to) however, the wimax antenna can still receive signal only if the Sprint account in which the phone came from is still active.
Problem solved. Anything else, I call BS. Consider yourself lucky whoever you got the phone from still has Sprint active. As soon as the line is disconnected, so will your 4G. Unless that person is you lol. I'm sure you bought the phone off craigslist, it was probably an insurance claim or the person switched to another 4G phone and wanted to make up cost.
On the other hand, the 3G antenna in the Epic Touch does not play well with Cricket's towers. Ive tried so many PRLs, it's not even funny. You will need to pull the PRL from an Acsend 2 or Mercury to get it working correctly and that's just my assumption.
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Ben's said:
Very simple. It's been confirmed on another forum however, I have flashed my old Epic Touch to Cricket and it works like this...
Let me explain what I did. Lost phone, got my new one... A month later, found it. Flashed it myself to Cricket. However, I still have Sprint service for my replacement phone.
I sold the flashed phone, that person can use my 4G still. Because you can not flash the 4G wimax antenna or do anything with it for that matter, ( except disabled it with the toggle ) the 4G antenna can still receive signal from an active Sprint account. Only thing that is effected is the cdma portion of the flash including the PRL thus, 3G and talk/text is on Cricket's network (or who's ever network flashed to) however, the wimax antenna can still receive signal only if the Sprint account in which the phone came from is still active.
Problem solved. Anything else, I call BS. Consider yourself lucky whoever you got the phone from still has Sprint active. As soon as the line is disconnected, so will your 4G. Unless that person is you lol. I'm sure you bought the phone off craigslist, it was probably an insurance claim or the person switched to another 4G phone and wanted to make up cost.
On the other hand, the 3G antenna in the Epic Touch does not play well with Cricket's towers. Ive tried so many PRLs, it's not even funny. You will need to pull the PRL from an Acsend 2 or Mercury to get it working correctly and that's just my assumption.
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Naw the person I got the phone from has a $450 unpaid phone bill on the account that's why I got it flashed. But like I said wen I got it I couldnt make/receive calls or text but the data worked. The phone is technically off for unpaid bills I figure the data would just work until the end of the billing cycle matter of fact I think he took his number to Verizon and just didn't pay sprint off either way I don't care. Only thing now is does flashing a rom affect your flash I mean like using Odin because doesn't it install sprint radios and what not I haven't rooted yet because I didn't kno
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What Ben's said sounds right. That 4G won't be sticking around.
And no, ROM flashing does not affect it. I've flashed several ROMs since going to Cricket. However, if you ever decide to change your phone number, you'll have problems.

If he did port his number over to VZW, then the account would be for sure canceled and 4G would stop working. I've been in this exact position but its been me on both ends of the deal. He probably told you what his plan was but ended up keeping Sprint. That's the only way your 4G is working.
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So what's a good rom since I'm new to the E4gt I was looking for an Aosp rom stock Android can't find one though so whats a good rom
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Couldn't really tell you that; you'd have to try each one for yourself. I personally prefer Blazer, but Calkulin's has also been wonderful for me.

I have mine "flashed" to Platinumtel prepaid. I pay 10 cents a MB, 5 cents per min & 2 cents per text. It uses Sprint's towers so all calls, texts, web (3 g only) work exactly as it would on Sprint. Most of my usage is at home so my bill will be under $20 a month. I use grooveip for free calls over wifi from my google voice #. This setup worls for me as I do most of my calling amd downloading at home over wifi. I don't care about 4G as I'm not watching movies when I'm out. I leave my house to experience the outside world at large! BTW you can get Clear 4G service activated on ANY wimax capable device by changing some IP settings. It's not free of course. You can pay just for a day if you like though. Bang it!
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Incredibly slow 3g with full bars!!!

I just recently purchased an epic 4g touch on sprint with their unlimited plan and every where I go I usually get full bars but still can't go faster than 9kb/s once I hit around 30 but over been hearing people get around 200-300 anyone know what I can do to increase my speeds. Also note I don't have 4g in my area so that's not an option
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That is normal Sprint speed....
But seriously, try going to a Sprint store. Checking your phone side by side with their model Epic 4G Touch.

Thanks I might try that gotta revert to a stock rom tho. Also my parents had crappy Samsung intercepts and i saw about 100-150 KB/s so it might be my phone
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I think the signal bars prioritize 1x (aka 2G) for phone signal, rather than actual data speeds. I also heard signal strength isn't as big of a concern with CDMA as it is with GSM. (Meaning CDMA can reach farther, I think.)

Well is there anything I can do cause phone calls and texting work great its the data connection that slows down it took 2 solid days downloading to get grand theft auto 3 lol I really want this to work better for tethering I don't have wifi
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Tapatos said:
Well is there anything I can do cause phone calls and texting work great its the data connection that slows down it took 2 solid days downloading to get grand theft auto 3 lol I really want this to work better for tethering I don't have wifi
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Has Sprint's signal always been...lacking there? Or has it suddenly gotten that bad? My guess if it you used to have good speeds, then there must be an outage somewhere. You can try all of the 3G and 4G modifications to see if they work better. Also flashing each modem 1 by 1 and testing each one can help some. But overall, you wont see much of an improvement because signal usually has to do with Sprint's end.

Haven't tried flashing each modem but ive done modifications to my 3g settings ive even tried going into data programming and changing the port it connects to. Sprints coverage might have degraded out here it wasn't too great to begin with I get stuck in roaming alot lately
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Yep that's sprint for ya. They will tell you its because they have so many customers and all of them are abusing the network.
So I wonder how att and Verizon manage to have better speeds.
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I just remembered. Sprint offers airaves to people with bad signal at home. An airave hooks up to your riuter or modem and broadcasts sprint signal within a few hundred feet. I'd suggest asking Sprint for one. I also heard you can use them as an upgrade line when you want a new phone. Lol
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I can tell you why your getting terrible speeds... Its the people who tether their phones to play call of duty and for their daily internet connection on the computer.
Nothing we can do about it until sprint terminates some contracts early for violating the terms of service and refusal to comply.
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You can check the following thread, see if tweaking your system settings can help you out :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=22782739#post22782739
You can just download the file to SD Card and flash it in CWM ... very easy.

Mattix724 said:
I can tell you why your getting terrible speeds... Its the people who tether their phones to play call of duty and for their daily internet connection on the computer.
Nothing we can do about it until sprint terminates some contracts early for violating the terms of service and refusal to comply.
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Yeah sure buddy, tell me what year sprint had great speeds because I been with sprint for 11 years and they were always crap. Stop believing the hype
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Lol seems like everyone's having a bad time with them ill try asking for one of those airave things but will they charge me out the ass for it?
EDIT: Just tried that flashable cwm file and it helped a little combined with a proxy tweak I'm getting around 20-50kb now
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This is a big part to it
Mattix724 said:
I can tell you why your getting terrible speeds... Its the people who tether their phones to play call of duty and for their daily internet connection on the computer.
Nothing we can do about it until sprint terminates some contracts early for violating the terms of service and refusal to comply.
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Well I don't see how they can play call of duty with 3g lmao but I do see the point about using it as a permanent internet connection I guess I have to wait for sprint to get 4g out here but that probly wont be for a while
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Google nexus?

Should i stick with this trusty epic or move to the google nexus? I have an opportunity to try out the google nexus.....should i move to the nexus or stick with the epic out of everybodys opinion here? Just thinking of trying something new
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I'm getting its all personal prefrence.
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If you have a chance to "try it out" then why not do it and decide what you like better. It's all the same **** if it works right for you and gets you happily through the day.
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.......wander thru the nexus threads here on xda, + you'll see what all is available in terms of ROMs + themes, you know, prospects for you as an end user running a different device..........in a few minutes you'd get a sense as to what other nexus users are experiencing w/ their device based on the specific carrier + a number of other factors........have fun!

The google nexus looks sexy. It's amost upgrade time for me... I'm thinking about sticking with my epic until more 4g lte phones become available. I already got fooled once into purchasing a 4g phone.

RealTic said:
The google nexus looks sexy. It's amost upgrade time for me... I'm thinking about sticking with my epic until more 4g lte phones become available. I already got fooled once into purchasing a 4g phone.
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How did you get Fooled into buying a 4g phone I'm sorry but this phone you know the Epic 4g that you have was the best at its time and was better than any other 4g phone back in 2010 and half of 2011?
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Mr. Fanboy, I am not referring to the Samsung Epic Phone itself, I am referring to 4g in general. The only reason I purchased a 4g phone in the first place was because my local sprint store claimed 4g would be in Omaha within a couple months....It never happened. So now I am paying for something incorporated into my bill that I cannot use. Now Sprint is switching to 4g lte which will inevitably rule my phone useless when it comes to 4g down the line. 4G is the biggest scam in the history of mobile data.

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Mr. Fanboy, I am not referring to the Samsung Epic Phone itself, I am referring to 4g in general. The only reason I purchased a 4g phone in the first place was because my local sprint store claimed 4g would be in Omaha within a couple months....It never happened. So now I am paying for something incorporated into my bill that I cannot use. Now Sprint is switching to 4g lte which will inevitably rule my phone useless when it comes to 4g down the line. 4G is the biggest scam in the history of mobile data.
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You are not paying for 4G. Iphone 4S is only 3G and has the $10 premium data charge as well. You are paying for high data volume.
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Oh.... I thought only 4G phones required the premium data charge.

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You are not paying for 4G. Iphone 4S is only 3G and has the $10 premium data charge as well. You are paying for high data volume.
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When it first started that charge was only for 4g phones... wifes evo had the charge my smartphone (can't remember name only had it for a week) no 10 charge... as soon as I switched to epic 4g extra 10 dollar charge.... sales guy even said it was for 4g at the time... about a month later the "premium data charge" for all smart phones appeared..
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Mostly because they realized they would be required to give a refund if there was no 4G in your area...LOL. I think the salespeople were either misinformed or Sprint realized soon after that the new phones would still use the same amount of data just on 3G and they did not want to limit data like the other carriers.
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XxLostSoulxX said:
How did you get Fooled into buying a 4g phone I'm sorry but this phone you know the Epic 4g that you have was the best at its time and was better than any other 4g phone back in 2010 and half of 2011?
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I personally think it still performs well enough to compete with some of the newer phones we have right now apart from the small amount of ram its pretty zippy.
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what keeps you with sprint

hey everyone..what keeps you with sprint!? the unlimited data and any mobile is great, but the data speeds and lack of 4g or LTE are kind of annoying...so what keeps y'all with sprint?! I Love the aformentioned perks, but I think verizon 4g lte in my area may tempt me to switch

Well I created a new plan with sprint [was on parents' plan] and I could have went anywhere. I went with sprint cuz of the data prices, and the overall price wasn't bad. Not gona go to at&t and verizon and get raped with data. Also LTE coming to my area is supposed to be heavy, so we will see.

Its cheaper then the other carriers. I get full signal on sprint everywhere I go in my area. It actually has unlimited data
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Well im almost done with sprint persknally. I have bad service at home and at work. My home wifi network makes it somewhat bearable.
Whats keeping me on sprint right now is the future unlimited LTE.
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Yeah...I hear all the replies!! Unlimited is key for me too...especially the any mobile as I use my phone for work. But the speed and lack of network development bug the hell out of me
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The unlimited plan.....hands down!! My wife and I both, have never even been able to use 4G after 3 yrs with Sprint!!
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Ive never seen 4g on my evo 4g either since launch day!! Sad would be cool to use 4g on the "so called EVO 4G" should just be called the EVO...

Well, my parents pay for that. So I don't exactly worry, I only get to see 4G maybe once every 6 months, but my areas getting LTE.
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There plan prices are much better than the others, but it is the unlimited data and minutes that are a plus for me.

There prices, when it comes to customer service they are the best. This only carrier I stayed longer then any other carrier.
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Living in KC I get GREAT service and Unlimited. NOTHING and I mean NOTHING is worth losing that. If All Carriers did what AT&T and Verizon do then I would just not own Cellphones or any other device anymore.

I saved over $90 /month coming to sprint from Verizon and data / phone coverage is great in Philadelphia. I never drop calls
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Thanks guys! Great discussion. I will likely stick with sprint for all reasons mentioned...they are all my pros ...just wish I could get some 4g hahah.
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bigbear6708 said:
Thanks guys! Great discussion. I will likely stick with sprint for all reasons mentioned...they are all my pros ...just wish I could get some 4g hahah.
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4G, ha!!! i only turn it on to download ROMs faster. thing is a battery killer on every device on every carrier, not missing much

Haven't used 4g in months. When I do use it I get full bars of signal
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Ha ha ha...that's right! Not sure if my areas even getting the LTE...but normal day to day service is ok.
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traesnaidensdad said:
Ha ha ha...that's right! Not sure if my areas even getting the LTE...but normal day to day service is ok.
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This was meant as a reply for an earlier post....should just be called EVO...
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I also like their customer service, I went in to buy a zagg shield for my NS4G and the worker there offered to take 50% off out of nowhere, originally $40.
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15 years of loyalty to a company Carries a lot of weight when you know how to get the right person on the phone. for me no other provider can offer services products or discounts that can compare to a company rewarding your loyalty. Almost left a few years Ago when if seemed I could never talk to an American ( no offense intended ). Sprint has really done a 135° turn since then. Not quite there yet but doing better.
Pocket posted sorry....

Price
Unlimited Data
Call ANY cell on ANY network without a BS fee
Ease of modifing plan without being charged out the ass
EVO line of course
Plan options
Good signal
4G
Minutes
Free roaming
Free nights and weekends
Unlimted texting
Unlimited MMS