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I'm sending my Incredible back to Verizon for a new Inc. but I'm rooted with the new update. Want should I do so they don't know I rooted this phone. OK just check my phone I guest when I did the official update it unrooted me. I' still S-OOF. But I got to go back to original stock before I sent the phone back my phone should get to me in 2 days. So I need to put back 2.1 and S-ON.
Have you done unrevoked forever and turned off the S-off, if so you should probably not send it in.
The best thing you can do is look for the stock 2.0 firmware. Also look on YouTube for a unroot video. I have unrooted and re-rooted this phone so it can be done.
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I'm S-OOF right know. So I should go back to S-ON and try to find 2.0 rom. Where can I find the right programs to this before 2 days.
I'll help you out.
It does NOT matter if you send the phone back with 2.1 or 2.2, they don't care.
They care about two things you need to worry about.
turning it back to S-ON
and having the stock recovery.
to achieve this. You MUST be rooted to do S-OFF or S-ON, so first off get rooted if your not. Then visit unrevoked
the unrevoked3 is for root, unrevoked forever is S-ON, S-OFF.
once you are rooted, follow the instructions to turn it back to S-ON. **(the same exact way you turned it to S-OFF, but using the new S-ON file.)**
Once this is completed now you will have S-ON, but you are still rooted, and have the ClockworkMod recovery. You need to un-root by downgrading using the 2.1 OR 2.2 RUU. your pick and like mentioned above. don't matteh. This will get you to have the stock recovery, and S-ON. Go in that order. Hope you get it. Peace.
If your S-OFF then you are screwed. There is no way to turn it back on. You are SOL man. You can always restore it to factory but the S-OFF will ALWAYS remain
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Also your phone has all the programs you need. You just news to put them all in the root of your SD card and reboot into hboot
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If your S-OFF then you are screwed. There is no way to turn it back on. You are SOL man. You can always restore it to factory but the S-OFF will ALWAYS remain
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Uhm you can turn back to S-ON
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Unless there has been a break though in getting HTC's and Verizon's super secret security code then I doubt it. The reason its called unrevoked forever is because there is no way to turn it back on. Check other posts in the xda to prove my point. If you return a S-off phone you will void the return and have to pay full price for the new one.
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Unless there has been a break though in getting HTC's and Verizon's super secret security code then I doubt it. The reason its called unrevoked forever is because there is no way to turn it back on. Check other posts in the xda to prove my point. If you return a S-off phone you will void the return and have to pay full price for the new one.
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FYI unrevoked forever 1.1 was released last week allowing us to return to s-on.
Also, the reason its called forever is because it forever allows our phones to truly be ours, unlocked and how it should be.
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Assuming that to be true why would unrEVoked be offering a package called unrevoked-forever-son?
They SPECIFICALLY provide it in case you need to go BACK TO S-ON....
Frequently Asked Questions
Q: How can this be removed or undone if I need to take my phone in for service?
A: Download the latest ''S-ON'' tool to a temporary location and follow the installation instructions above to run it. Once your phone is S-ON, you may lose root permanently if you install an official update
h t t p : / / unrevoked . com / rootwiki / doku.php / public / forever
I still cannot post H T T P links.
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Unless there has been a break though in getting HTC's and Verizon's super secret security code then I doubt it. The reason its called unrevoked forever is because there is no way to turn it back on. Check other posts in the xda to prove my point. If you return a S-off phone you will void the return and have to pay full price for the new one.
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Hahaha. Should have stopped while you were ahead, or at least have read my post that RIGHT about you before you started talking about something you have no idea about.
www.unrevoked.com read it.
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Unless there has been a break though in getting HTC's and Verizon's super secret security code then I doubt it. The reason its called unrevoked forever is because there is no way to turn it back on. Check other posts in the xda to prove my point. If you return a S-off phone you will void the return and have to pay full price for the new one.
Sent from my unrEvoked forever Droid Incredible
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Seems like someone has been out of the loop.
Hey guys just got back from work a little while ago, and try all things you guys said but nothing works. Right know I'm sitting on a phone that sits with the new updated rooted because it took out of rooted, unrevoked won't let me root my phone. I get a error that says failed to load image. Please help.
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I need help please. read last post.
@draft ok my mistake, last time i read the forever page it said they wouldn't make a S-ON but they did. My bad.
@Milton please go to this link and try it
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=695825
follow the steps and it should unroot/restore. Hopefully you do this correctly
Milton1964 said:
I need help please. read last post.
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Download S-ON file from unrEVOked's website and run that so that you get S-ON back onto the phone.
Then download either the 2.1 or 2.2 RUU (find them in the Android Development Section) and run that and it will wipe the phone and bring it back to factory state.
If it says your phone is not found when using the RUU, try downloading the HTC Sync software for the Incredible and installing that first. You need the drivers for "MY HTC" on the computer for the RUU to recognize it and HTC Sync will install that for you. I had that issue, but remedied it with the HTC Sync software install first.
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@draft ok my mistake, last time i read the forever page it said they wouldn't make a S-ON but they did. My bad.
@Milton please go to this link and try it
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=695825
follow the steps and it should unroot/restore. Hopefully you do this correctly
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Jr I'll give it a try. i will get with you later to let you know hoe it goes. thanks.
Back to 2.1 and S-ON thanks everyone
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Jr I'll give it a try. i will get with you later to let you know hoe it goes. thanks.
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Jr it work like a charm. Back to 2.1 and S-ON!!!!!!!!!!! Ye ha know I could return this broken phone and get my new Incredible maybe it probably be refurbish.
Milton1964 said:
Jr it work like a charm. Back to 2.1 and S-ON!!!!!!!!!!! Ye ha know I could return this broken phone and get my new Incredible maybe it probably be refurbish.
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Way to go back, good for you. It will 100% be refurbished unless of coarse you are within 30 days. refurbs are good though. and its amoled so. whateva
Well we see. the only thing i'm worry about is that it will come with 2.2, and won't be able to root again.
I have been having random reboot problems for weeks and no matter what I try I cant get it to stop. So I have tried to get back to unrooted stock so i can return. I have unrooted 2.2 on my device now, but i have s-off. From what I have heard I need s-on in order to return it.
Can anyone help me on this ?
I had hoped that going back to stock ROM's would stop the rebooting, but it has not. I still get the random reboots. sometimes it reboots a few times and then goes dead on me. I have to remove the battery and sd card to just get it to turn back on again... ugh
Hank
Guess you never read Unrevoked when they said that S-OFF is permanent for the time being and that they didn't know if they would be able to turn it back on. Your best bet is to say you lost it file a lost/stolen report with the police pay the insurance deductible get the new phone and sell the old one with bad ESN for sprint.
I just reflashed 2.1 via the first step of the how to root 2.2 method by regaw. 2.1 was always much more stable for me. it was when i went to 2.2 that i started having all the issues. and I thought that you could go s-on with 2.1 using the latest unrevoked. but i could have read that wrong.
I just looked at there site and it looks like I was wrong they have a S-on tool now
http://unrevoked.com/rootwiki/doku.php/public/forever
yeah, i read that. i dont see where it says how to turn it back to s-on though. only really talks about s-off. it does say there is a tool to turn back on. i assume that is in the custom recovery somewhere ?
mrsexkey said:
yeah, i read that. i dont see where it says how to turn it back to s-on though. only really talks about s-off. it does say there is a tool to turn back on. i assume that is in the custom recovery somewhere ?
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It's the same as flashing unrevoked
Forever. Just flash the zip file in recovery.
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So if there's an S-ON now, what's to stop HTC from incorporating that in their next OTA?
Nothing.
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So if there's an S-ON now, what's to stop HTC from incorporating that in their next OTA?
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probably the fact they don't really care. why would that be a priority for them?
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probably the fact they don't really care. why would that be a priority for them?
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So is it just a coincidence that every OTA up to this point has broken root?
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So if there's an S-ON now, what's to stop HTC from incorporating that in their next OTA?
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HTC totally knew how to S-ON this whole time. They built the damn thing.
The UnrEVOked team mentions this in the link posted above. If they DID S-ON everyone it would break every phone that's legitimately S-OFF for testing purposes.
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So is it just a coincidence that every OTA up to this point has broken root?
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ViViDboarder said:
HTC totally knew how to S-ON this whole time. They built the damn thing.
The UnrEVOked team mentions this in the link posted above. If they DID S-ON everyone it would break every phone that's legitimately S-OFF for testing purposes.
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what he said... further. root methods represent legitimate security holes in the software. s-off doesn't
ViViDboarder said:
HTC totally knew how to S-ON this whole time. They built the damn thing.
The UnrEVOked team mentions this in the link posted above. If they DID S-ON everyone it would break every phone that's legitimately S-OFF for testing purposes.
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It may enable the security but it won't break them by any means, they could easily leave a backdoor on their devices that would allow it to be disabled again
I don't understand why everyone's worried HTC will S-on everyone, who unlocks there phone and flashes official OTA's
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I don't understand why everyone's worried HTC will S-on everyone, who unlocks there phone and flashes official OTA's
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Kind of a noob to the Evo (gave up my nexus today) I looked around but didn't see anything so sorry to ask but, what is this s-on s-off stuff about anyway?
polo79 said:
Kind of a noob to the Evo (gave up my nexus today) I looked around but didn't see anything so sorry to ask but, what is this s-on s-off stuff about anyway?
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Here's the thread about S-Off http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=752163
Hey everyone I just wanted to know if there's an easy way to unroot or just get s-on so I can take my EVO to sprint for repair...I've searched for some stuff and found that there is an s-on tool zip from unrevoked and the unroot method but I was wondering if I would be able to just get s-on for repair and then get s-off via another zip or adb...I have rooted using the unrevoked method and I have the .76 eng bootloader
Open to any suggestions...just trying to find the quickest and easiest way to save root if at all possible...thanks in advance
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sprint wont even look if you're using a stock rom they wont even notice, they will only notice if you are running a modded os
kingakuma said:
sprint wont even look if you're using a stock rom they wont even notice, they will only notice if you are running a modded os
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Well I was gonna flash a stock rom but I read that if they see s-off in hboot they'll void my insurance and warranty
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thebeast614 said:
Well I was gonna flash a stock rom but I read that if they see s-off in hboot they'll void my insurance and warranty
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It all depends on the sprint store, the tech that's looking at it, and if that tech got laid the night before. Its unpredictable. Most probably wouldn't even check, but its possible to get that one tech that plays by the rules and takes life too seriously. I say unroot it to be safe.
If you're on the Eng. 76 bootloader, you're always going to be s off, until you change bootloader. You said you also ran unrevoked at some point? I would just flash the unrevoked s on tool, and then run an ruu, and be done with it. Then you don't have to worry. I'm the type that'd rather be safe than sorry, and have.my account flagged.
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Yes, it can be done. There is an RUU floating around, and I just successfully downgraded. That said, while recovery was removed, S-OFF was NOT removed.
What I do not know is how this would affect those who did OTA or the .3 release. I did flash down though from Gingersense.
More to come, as I now have to read about how to get Clockwork Recovery back into place.. That's critical now.
EDIT: Blah.. Just FYI, it doesn't look like the RUU I was using was the stock release. But it's Froyo regardless.
EDIT 2: Big Blah.. If you're S-ON, it won't work. Works fine if you're S-OFF though.
What was the name of the file?
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RUU_Vivo_W_VERIZON_WWE_1.34.605.3_Radio_0.99.01.0225_2_NV_VZW1.92_release_181303_signed.exe
Looks like 1.34.605.4 is the stock release, but I'm not positive.
And I'm back to where I was before I ran the RUU. Everything appears to work. No issues getting CWM recovery back on.
This may be an option for those who went OTA and want to get root...they just might not have it with OTA.
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And I'm back to where I was before I ran the RUU. Everything appears to work. No issues getting CWM recovery back on.
This may be an option for those who went OTA and want to get root...they just might not have it with OTA.
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Ill give it a shot seeing that I haven't received my xtc clip yet and pounced on gb leak since alpharev wasn't available yet
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Stam2000 said:
Ill give it a shot seeing that I haven't received my xtc clip yet and pounced on gb leak since alpharev wasn't available yet
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Please, post your results. I'm curious to hear!
I tried it, and I received an error from the ruu program. Error 190 or something like that.
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Can you mirror the file, FileFactory is horribly slow. 2 hours? Really?
Does this downgrade HBOOT so you can root the device? I just picked up a new Incredible 2 on Craigslist, 2 days old. Came with Gingerbread installed
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Does this downgrade HBOOT so you can root the device? I just picked up a new Incredible 2 on Craigslist, 2 days old. Came with Gingerbread installed
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dunno, just called Verizon and getting a replacement, i hope it doesn't have gingerbread on it - that would be sweet.
Ok. I'm wondering if this will work. My incredible 2 has 2.3.3 with HBOOT of .97. Now AlpharevX works with that HBOOT its just that it can't can't get root because of gingerbread. Would downgrading to froyo fix this? Love this phone. Hate the ****ing bloat.
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It looks like it's an issue of security checking. If you could get it downgrade to Froyo, then it should work. But because of S-ON, it won't downgrade. At least, that's the best I can figure.
So the solution would be to just wait until GB gets S-OFF?
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So the solution would be to just wait until GB gets S-OFF?
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Yes. For whatever reason, despite being signed updates, HTC and/or Verizon won't let you downgrade the device. It worked for me because I was S-OFF already though, so it's a "security" issue.
I also have s-off on mine but after I got it I did factory reset and then it downloaded and installed update while it was charging and i never knew untill i looked and was like o crap it updated by itself so i hope this works.
sk0t i think i could hug you for this post i just ran that ruu and was able to get my root back just installed CM7
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Yes, it can be done. There is an RUU floating around, and I just successfully downgraded. That said, while recovery was removed, S-OFF was NOT removed.
What I do not know is how this would affect those who did OTA or the .3 release. I did flash down though from Gingersense.
More to come, as I now have to read about how to get Clockwork Recovery back into place.. That's critical now.
EDIT: Blah.. Just FYI, it doesn't look like the RUU I was using was the stock release. But it's Froyo regardless.
EDIT 2: Big Blah.. If you're S-ON, it won't work. Works fine if you're S-OFF though.
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Just made an account to post this...hope it helps. My roommate was fed up with 2.3 on her Droid X so she called verizon to complain and they send her an OTA flash back to 2.2. I know its a different phone but it may be an option for you folks that are looking as well...cheers!
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Just made an account to post this...hope it helps. My roommate was fed up with 2.3 on her Droid X so she called verizon to complain and they send her an OTA flash back to 2.2. I know its a different phone but it may be an option for you folks that are looking as well...cheers!
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I have to admit, that is very interesting. I wonder if they'd do it for the HTC phones. I know the X had a ****-ton of problems with 2.3.
sk0t said:
I have to admit, that is very interesting. I wonder if they'd do it for the HTC phones. I know the X had a ****-ton of problems with 2.3.
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I just got off the phone with big red, and they said with these phones there is not a way to back out an upgrade. If anyone else has any luck, please let us know
chardie26 said:
I also have s-off on mine but after I got it I did factory reset and then it downloaded and installed update while it was charging and i never knew untill i looked and was like o crap it updated by itself so i hope this works.
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I just got off the phone with big red, and they said with these phones there is not a way to back out an upgrade. If anyone else has any luck, please let us know
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Damn that really sucks. This is exactly what happened to my sister. I wonder, when did pushing updates with no confirmation become okay? I thought the OTA needs your permission to install?
To get charging port and home button fixed. I have insurance and my phone is rooted. They have to repair it right? I remember reading on here that rooted phones can be worked on by sprint employees now. True, correct?
Wrong. My friend is a tech at the local Sprint Store and I asked her about that. Her answer was hysterical laughing.
You may want to try and flash a Stock Rom first.
I thought they had to repair them now?
Sorry, you thought wrong.
So should I just unroot and take it in? I don't mind. I think when I took it in last time the rep said he couldnt fix it cuz it was rooted and it was the charging port that tiem too.
You can. I just keep my stock/rooted setup in a Nandroid, in case that ever happens ,so I can roll back to Stock without unrooting. I don't think they'd check for S-off, but you never know
Ill just unroot. I can use djrez's method to unroot if my bootloader doesnt say revolutionary at the top right? I am pretty sure i used unrevoked forever to unroot.
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Ill just unroot. I can use djrez's method to unroot if my bootloader doesnt say revolutionary at the top right? I am pretty sure i used unrevoked forever to unroot.
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If you used unrevoked then you can just flash s-on & RUU. You may have to downgrade your radio to get the s-on zip to work.
If you're taking it in for a bad usb port, they'll most likely replace it instead of trying to fix it.
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I plan to flash the S-ON then let hboot upgrade to the PC36IMG that is in DJREZ's unroot thread. Woudl that be sufficient enough?
DRatJr said:
I plan to flash the S-ON then let hboot upgrade to the PC36IMG that is in DJREZ's unroot thread. Woudl that be sufficient enough?
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how do i get S-ON on my evo when i used unrevoked3 not unrevoked forever...is there like a zip file for that
weztcoazt said:
how do i get S-ON on my evo when i used unrevoked3 not unrevoked forever...is there like a zip file for that
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Unroot method is the same. Unrevoked 3 had Forever built in.
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DONT ever flash s-on haha i've taken my evo to get fixed a couple of times and they're never checked for s-off. I guess you could though if you were getting a replacement.
Well I'm trading the phone in for a different....my evo looks stock but still with the s-off. My evo says a mandatory update is available n I'm wondering what that will do lol
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HipKat said:
Wrong. My friend is a tech at the local Sprint Store and I asked her about that. Her answer was hysterical laughing.
You may want to try and flash a Stock Rom first.
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This document was leaked a little while ago, have they since rescinded the policy?
It was 3 weeks ago when I talked to her
Khilbron said:
This document was leaked a little while ago, have they since rescinded the policy?
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Nope. But not all service locations/employees have fallen in line behind the policy either.
KJ
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Sorry, you thought wrong.
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Actually, you're wrong.
If the issue has nothing to do with being rooted, why would it matter? If a phone comes into my service center with software issues that's rooted, then yes it pertains to the issue. Digitizer out? Root has nothing to do with it. I leave it the way it is and repair.
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how do i get S-ON on my evo when i used unrevoked3 not unrevoked forever...is there like a zip file for that
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Yea. If u are s-off and used unrevoked to root, then you need 2 downgrade ur radio to 2.05.xx.xx and then flash the s-on zip. After that if ur back to s-on just flash the 3.70 pc36img
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