[Q] Easiest way to hide root/unroot for repair? - EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hey everyone I just wanted to know if there's an easy way to unroot or just get s-on so I can take my EVO to sprint for repair...I've searched for some stuff and found that there is an s-on tool zip from unrevoked and the unroot method but I was wondering if I would be able to just get s-on for repair and then get s-off via another zip or adb...I have rooted using the unrevoked method and I have the .76 eng bootloader
Open to any suggestions...just trying to find the quickest and easiest way to save root if at all possible...thanks in advance
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sprint wont even look if you're using a stock rom they wont even notice, they will only notice if you are running a modded os

kingakuma said:
sprint wont even look if you're using a stock rom they wont even notice, they will only notice if you are running a modded os
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Well I was gonna flash a stock rom but I read that if they see s-off in hboot they'll void my insurance and warranty
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thebeast614 said:
Well I was gonna flash a stock rom but I read that if they see s-off in hboot they'll void my insurance and warranty
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It all depends on the sprint store, the tech that's looking at it, and if that tech got laid the night before. Its unpredictable. Most probably wouldn't even check, but its possible to get that one tech that plays by the rules and takes life too seriously. I say unroot it to be safe.
If you're on the Eng. 76 bootloader, you're always going to be s off, until you change bootloader. You said you also ran unrevoked at some point? I would just flash the unrevoked s on tool, and then run an ruu, and be done with it. Then you don't have to worry. I'm the type that'd rather be safe than sorry, and have.my account flagged.
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[Q] Sending Incredible back to Veri.but rooted

I'm sending my Incredible back to Verizon for a new Inc. but I'm rooted with the new update. Want should I do so they don't know I rooted this phone. OK just check my phone I guest when I did the official update it unrooted me. I' still S-OOF. But I got to go back to original stock before I sent the phone back my phone should get to me in 2 days. So I need to put back 2.1 and S-ON.
Have you done unrevoked forever and turned off the S-off, if so you should probably not send it in.
The best thing you can do is look for the stock 2.0 firmware. Also look on YouTube for a unroot video. I have unrooted and re-rooted this phone so it can be done.
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I'm S-OOF right know. So I should go back to S-ON and try to find 2.0 rom. Where can I find the right programs to this before 2 days.
I'll help you out.
It does NOT matter if you send the phone back with 2.1 or 2.2, they don't care.
They care about two things you need to worry about.
turning it back to S-ON
and having the stock recovery.
to achieve this. You MUST be rooted to do S-OFF or S-ON, so first off get rooted if your not. Then visit unrevoked
the unrevoked3 is for root, unrevoked forever is S-ON, S-OFF.
once you are rooted, follow the instructions to turn it back to S-ON. **(the same exact way you turned it to S-OFF, but using the new S-ON file.)**
Once this is completed now you will have S-ON, but you are still rooted, and have the ClockworkMod recovery. You need to un-root by downgrading using the 2.1 OR 2.2 RUU. your pick and like mentioned above. don't matteh. This will get you to have the stock recovery, and S-ON. Go in that order. Hope you get it. Peace.
If your S-OFF then you are screwed. There is no way to turn it back on. You are SOL man. You can always restore it to factory but the S-OFF will ALWAYS remain
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Also your phone has all the programs you need. You just news to put them all in the root of your SD card and reboot into hboot
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jrdnthms said:
If your S-OFF then you are screwed. There is no way to turn it back on. You are SOL man. You can always restore it to factory but the S-OFF will ALWAYS remain
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Uhm you can turn back to S-ON
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Unless there has been a break though in getting HTC's and Verizon's super secret security code then I doubt it. The reason its called unrevoked forever is because there is no way to turn it back on. Check other posts in the xda to prove my point. If you return a S-off phone you will void the return and have to pay full price for the new one.
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jrdnthms said:
Unless there has been a break though in getting HTC's and Verizon's super secret security code then I doubt it. The reason its called unrevoked forever is because there is no way to turn it back on. Check other posts in the xda to prove my point. If you return a S-off phone you will void the return and have to pay full price for the new one.
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FYI unrevoked forever 1.1 was released last week allowing us to return to s-on.
Also, the reason its called forever is because it forever allows our phones to truly be ours, unlocked and how it should be.
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Assuming that to be true why would unrEVoked be offering a package called unrevoked-forever-son?
They SPECIFICALLY provide it in case you need to go BACK TO S-ON....
Frequently Asked Questions
Q: How can this be removed or undone if I need to take my phone in for service?
A: Download the latest ''S-ON'' tool to a temporary location and follow the installation instructions above to run it. Once your phone is S-ON, you may lose root permanently if you install an official update
h t t p : / / unrevoked . com / rootwiki / doku.php / public / forever
I still cannot post H T T P links.
jrdnthms said:
Unless there has been a break though in getting HTC's and Verizon's super secret security code then I doubt it. The reason its called unrevoked forever is because there is no way to turn it back on. Check other posts in the xda to prove my point. If you return a S-off phone you will void the return and have to pay full price for the new one.
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Hahaha. Should have stopped while you were ahead, or at least have read my post that RIGHT about you before you started talking about something you have no idea about.
www.unrevoked.com read it.
jrdnthms said:
Unless there has been a break though in getting HTC's and Verizon's super secret security code then I doubt it. The reason its called unrevoked forever is because there is no way to turn it back on. Check other posts in the xda to prove my point. If you return a S-off phone you will void the return and have to pay full price for the new one.
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Seems like someone has been out of the loop.
Hey guys just got back from work a little while ago, and try all things you guys said but nothing works. Right know I'm sitting on a phone that sits with the new updated rooted because it took out of rooted, unrevoked won't let me root my phone. I get a error that says failed to load image. Please help.
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Seems like someone has been out of the loop.
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I need help please. read last post.
@draft ok my mistake, last time i read the forever page it said they wouldn't make a S-ON but they did. My bad.
@Milton please go to this link and try it
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=695825
follow the steps and it should unroot/restore. Hopefully you do this correctly
Milton1964 said:
I need help please. read last post.
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Download S-ON file from unrEVOked's website and run that so that you get S-ON back onto the phone.
Then download either the 2.1 or 2.2 RUU (find them in the Android Development Section) and run that and it will wipe the phone and bring it back to factory state.
If it says your phone is not found when using the RUU, try downloading the HTC Sync software for the Incredible and installing that first. You need the drivers for "MY HTC" on the computer for the RUU to recognize it and HTC Sync will install that for you. I had that issue, but remedied it with the HTC Sync software install first.
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@draft ok my mistake, last time i read the forever page it said they wouldn't make a S-ON but they did. My bad.
@Milton please go to this link and try it
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=695825
follow the steps and it should unroot/restore. Hopefully you do this correctly
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Jr I'll give it a try. i will get with you later to let you know hoe it goes. thanks.
Back to 2.1 and S-ON thanks everyone
Milton1964 said:
Jr I'll give it a try. i will get with you later to let you know hoe it goes. thanks.
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Jr it work like a charm. Back to 2.1 and S-ON!!!!!!!!!!! Ye ha know I could return this broken phone and get my new Incredible maybe it probably be refurbish.
Milton1964 said:
Jr it work like a charm. Back to 2.1 and S-ON!!!!!!!!!!! Ye ha know I could return this broken phone and get my new Incredible maybe it probably be refurbish.
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Way to go back, good for you. It will 100% be refurbished unless of coarse you are within 30 days. refurbs are good though. and its amoled so. whateva
Well we see. the only thing i'm worry about is that it will come with 2.2, and won't be able to root again.

[Q]getting s-on after rooting using revolutionary method

I am rooted (s-off) using the new revolutionary method and have the new recovery (blue color). I have a shattered screen and have to turn the phone in due to an insurance claim through Asurion. I don't think i need to unroot before I turn the busted phone in. I would like to make sure I have all my bases covered so they don't try to charge me full price for the phone.
I have flashed back to 2.2 using ruu and then tried to go back to 2.3 (PC36img) and was successful but it didn't update the bootloader, it just skipped it. It still shows s-off. I then ruu back to 2.2 then tried to update over the air but it just got stuck woth the blue android guy and the triangle. help please
Asurion wont care if is rooted or not.
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Jim M said:
Asurion wont care if is rooted or not.
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OK thanks, but is there a way to get s-on after using revolutionary method? I would like to root my wife's phone but she has only had hers about 2 months and it is still under manufactures warranty. If she has a problem then I would like to know that I could return hers back to stock if I had to.
oldpreowner said:
OK thanks, but is there a way to get s-on after using revolutionary method? I would like to root my wife's phone but she has only had hers about 2 months and it is still under manufactures warranty. If she has a problem then I would like to know that I could return hers back to stock if I had to.
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2.2 ruu and the run the s-on method , I think from unrevoked.
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THREESTRIPEBRAND said:
2.2 ruu and the run the s-on method , I think from unrevoked.
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So the S-ON tool they released will work with Revolutionary?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=780141
Figured I'd ask just to cover my bases in the future.....should something happen
I have tried about 6 or 7 times to flash the s-on and it says it takes but it I still have s-off. So it hasn't worked for me.
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How to unroot unrevoked s-off

So I'm ending Verizon and need to give my phone to best buy for the buyback program but I don't think they will take it running rooted I know the new ota is out but what do I do to do this ota do I flash a froyo stock rom? Or ...
Help me out guys thanks alot ill miss my incredible and y'all aswell
Ill be getting att infuse 4g over the HTC inspire 4g I think..
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I'd put it back to stock 2.2. There are a couple "get back to stock" threads in the development section, basically you'll just have to flash the S-ON zip in recovery, then flash the stock 2.2 RUU.
Just wondering, does Verizon refuse to work on your phone if it is rooted? Different scenarios:
1) Hardware issue. Do they care if it is S-Off and has a custom ROM?
2) Will they not even touch a phone that is obviously rooted?
3) Do they care about S-Off when you take it in?
Evo 4G over here, Sprint works on rooted phones. If it is a software issue they will RUU you, but won't mess with S-Off
Thanks! this is helpful
tropicalbrit said:
Just wondering, does Verizon refuse to work on your phone if it is rooted?
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I personally would return the phone to stock before returning it for a hardware issue, but I think most Verizon employees (a) don't care about rooting because their phones are probably rooted as well, or (b) wouldn't even know what S-OFF means or what to look for to determine if a phone's rooted. This is assuming you're just going in to your neighborhood Verizon store for a few questions or something, not for warranty issues, those people that receive the phones might look for root, who knows?
I think there's a lot more paranoia about rooting and Verizon's stance on it than is warranted though. I've seen all sorts of rumors about Verizon "tracking" rooted users, or building a database of rooted phones. Those kind of rumors have been going on for a while with no sort of confirmation or anything whatsoever coming from them.
FWIW, I've returned a rooted, s-off Incredible, with an Unrevoked splash screen to Verizon for a warranty repair. The employee did not care. (or maybe they just didn't have a clue.)
k_nivesout said:
I'd put it back to stock 2.2. There are a couple "get back to stock" threads in the development section, basically you'll just have to flash the S-ON zip in recovery, then flash the stock 2.2 RUU.
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Question
I flash both at the same time like
S-on tool then right away stock ruu?
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The timing doesn't really matter, but the S-ON zip has to be flashed in recovery whereas the RUU is flashed in hboot. The RUU replaces CWM recovery with the stock recovery, and you couldn't flash the S-ON zip with the stock recovery. But it shouldn't matter as far as flashing the RUU *right* after the S-ON zip, since the RUU is official HTC firmware, you can flash it with S-ON, anytime. Bear in mind that you can't downgrade with S-ON though, for example, if you flash the 2.3 RUU (with S-ON) there's no way to get back to 2.2.
Thinking about it, even if you flashed the RUU first, you still have S-OFF, so would be free to install a custom recovery & superuser then flash back to whatever.

Going to the Sprint store tomorrow

To get charging port and home button fixed. I have insurance and my phone is rooted. They have to repair it right? I remember reading on here that rooted phones can be worked on by sprint employees now. True, correct?
Wrong. My friend is a tech at the local Sprint Store and I asked her about that. Her answer was hysterical laughing.
You may want to try and flash a Stock Rom first.
I thought they had to repair them now?
Sorry, you thought wrong.
So should I just unroot and take it in? I don't mind. I think when I took it in last time the rep said he couldnt fix it cuz it was rooted and it was the charging port that tiem too.
You can. I just keep my stock/rooted setup in a Nandroid, in case that ever happens ,so I can roll back to Stock without unrooting. I don't think they'd check for S-off, but you never know
Ill just unroot. I can use djrez's method to unroot if my bootloader doesnt say revolutionary at the top right? I am pretty sure i used unrevoked forever to unroot.
DRatJr said:
Ill just unroot. I can use djrez's method to unroot if my bootloader doesnt say revolutionary at the top right? I am pretty sure i used unrevoked forever to unroot.
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If you used unrevoked then you can just flash s-on & RUU. You may have to downgrade your radio to get the s-on zip to work.
If you're taking it in for a bad usb port, they'll most likely replace it instead of trying to fix it.
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I plan to flash the S-ON then let hboot upgrade to the PC36IMG that is in DJREZ's unroot thread. Woudl that be sufficient enough?
DRatJr said:
I plan to flash the S-ON then let hboot upgrade to the PC36IMG that is in DJREZ's unroot thread. Woudl that be sufficient enough?
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how do i get S-ON on my evo when i used unrevoked3 not unrevoked forever...is there like a zip file for that
weztcoazt said:
how do i get S-ON on my evo when i used unrevoked3 not unrevoked forever...is there like a zip file for that
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Unroot method is the same. Unrevoked 3 had Forever built in.
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DONT ever flash s-on haha i've taken my evo to get fixed a couple of times and they're never checked for s-off. I guess you could though if you were getting a replacement.
Well I'm trading the phone in for a different....my evo looks stock but still with the s-off. My evo says a mandatory update is available n I'm wondering what that will do lol
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HipKat said:
Wrong. My friend is a tech at the local Sprint Store and I asked her about that. Her answer was hysterical laughing.
You may want to try and flash a Stock Rom first.
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This document was leaked a little while ago, have they since rescinded the policy?
It was 3 weeks ago when I talked to her
Khilbron said:
This document was leaked a little while ago, have they since rescinded the policy?
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Nope. But not all service locations/employees have fallen in line behind the policy either.
KJ
HipKat said:
Sorry, you thought wrong.
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Actually, you're wrong.
If the issue has nothing to do with being rooted, why would it matter? If a phone comes into my service center with software issues that's rooted, then yes it pertains to the issue. Digitizer out? Root has nothing to do with it. I leave it the way it is and repair.
weztcoazt said:
how do i get S-ON on my evo when i used unrevoked3 not unrevoked forever...is there like a zip file for that
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Yea. If u are s-off and used unrevoked to root, then you need 2 downgrade ur radio to 2.05.xx.xx and then flash the s-on zip. After that if ur back to s-on just flash the 3.70 pc36img
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[Q] Few ?'s

Hello Everyone,
I have been looking up rooting my HTV EVO 4g and have realized I have Hboot 2.18
I have been searching and found the way to downgrade and root to get s-off but my question is that at this moment I was just wanting to do it to run GameCIH 2 to mess with a few games I have(have a lot of time on phone) but says i need root access. I understand HTVdev.com has the way to unlock the bootloader but it keeps s-on must i go through the multiple tutorials to achieve s-off to run this program? also if i do go through doing all this is there a way to bring it back to stock in case something happens to the phone i dont want to shell out a few hundred bucks for a new one.(i do understand there is always a chance at bricking it) anyway thanks again for any incite.
Farsinchia said:
Hello Everyone,
I have been looking up rooting my HTV EVO 4g and have realized I have Hboot 2.18
I have been searching and found the way to downgrade and root to get s-off but my question is that at this moment I was just wanting to do it to run GameCIH 2 to mess with a few games I have(have a lot of time on phone) but says i need root access. I understand HTVdev.com has the way to unlock the bootloader but it keeps s-on must i go through the multiple tutorials to achieve s-off to run this program? also if i do go through doing all this is there a way to bring it back to stock in case something happens to the phone i dont want to shell out a few hundred bucks for a new one.(i do understand there is always a chance at bricking it) anyway thanks again for any incite.
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If your not planning on flashing roms you just want root might aswell use the HTCdev to unlock the bootloader and just get root
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im not planning on flashing roms just would like to you GameCIH 2 atm. so if i just you the HTVdev.com unlock do i have to go about getting my phone to s-off and then proceed with any root way?
Farsinchia said:
im not planning on flashing roms just would like to you GameCIH 2 atm. so if i just you the HTVdev.com unlock do i have to go about getting my phone to s-off and then proceed with any root way?
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Your only going to want s-off if you plan on flashing roms. Let me get on my pc real quick so i can find you a guide
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thank you very much for you help
also do you know if this will void my warranty as i would like to not HAVE to buy a new one if something happens to this one
thanks again
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1473373&highlight=how+to+root+hboot+2+18 your going to want to follow steps 1-27 and if you follow correctly you will have root access. The other steps are if your planning on getting s-off so just ignore everything after step 27
cool thanks again
evo4gnoob said:
Your only going to want s-off if you plan on flashing roms. Let me get on my pc real quick so i can find you a guide
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Just to clarify - with an unlocked bootloader and S-ON, you can still flash ROMs. Especially if you're already out of warranty, all you need to do is the HTCDev unlock process.
So S-ON just means you can't use PC36IMG.zip method for flashing recoveries, radios, etc., but fastboot, correct?
xfullmetal17 said:
So S-ON just means you can't use PC36IMG.zip method for flashing recoveries, radios, etc., but fastboot, correct?
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with s-on unlocked you cant flash radios and and you cant write to certain partitions on the phone
xfullmetal17 said:
So S-ON just means you can't use PC36IMG.zip method for flashing recoveries, radios, etc., but fastboot, correct?
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You can use the PC36IMG.zip method to flash a recovery, but the file has to be prepared specifically for it to work. As far as the other stuff goes, please see the post above this one .

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