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I moved to an area where T-mobile and the N1 was not cutting it unfortunately. So the EVO was the first pick for me when it came down to switching carriers. I love how the phone looks and feels but I really don't like HTC Sense.
As of right now I don't really have plans on rooting my phone but I would really like to get rid of all the HTC stuff. I am using the stock launcher but I would like all the other HTC apps to go back to stock as well. Some of them are okay, but I just prefer the clean and simple look of the stock Android OS.
Can everything be removed through Settings: Applications: Manage Apps? And can I chose to go back to the HTC stuff if I ever felt like it?
i think that the best you're going to be able to do right now is to pull all the widgets off. you really can't just 'remove' sense ui. it's integrated pretty deeply.
i'm also off an n1, and there are a LOT of things i miss, dev wise. however, i do love the size of the screen (even tho it looks totally washed out and drab in comparison).
you'll be fine. just pull the widgets off. get a new launcher off the market, or a whole new home.
Thanks for the reply. I am interested in how you have your EVO at this time. Any suggestion on the launcher? Sense isn't bad... it's quick and does the job, but it just feels bloated and kinda cluttery for me.
I like how integrated it is with contacts and some other minor stuff even when using another launcher such as adw.launcher or launcherpro. I'll just have to build a custom rom for myself eventually when I gather more knowledge, and hope all goes well.
unfortunately you can't. sense isn't just bloated the apps crammed on the phone, but it's also hardcoded into parts of the operating system itself. you can change the launcher, but you can't ever have a fully vanilla android experience until one of the genius devs here creates a rom based on something like aosp. the good news is, when that happens, it's very likely froyo will be the basis for it.
i agree though, i love the clean, fast, simple, "real" android look over the busy, bloated, steampunk contraption that is the sense ui. i think it's stupid htc doesn't offer a plain android version, as plenty of people have no use for all the crap they force on us.
fortunately the evo handles all that overhead well, unlike the poor hero that was reduced to a crawl under the weight of it.
That's a real shame. You should definitely be given the option to use the standard Android OS. Oh well, I havent even had the phone 24 hours. I should get used to it. : )
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i'm also off an n1, and there are a LOT of things i miss, dev wise. however, i do love the size of the screen (even tho it looks totally washed out and drab in comparison).
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yes it does I try not to look at my nexus one screen anymore because looking at it and then looking at the evo while I love the 4.3" the colors are so much richer and blacker on the nexus one. I am going to miss it once I sell it but I'm sure once I get use to the evo and don't have an nexus one to compare it to wont be so bad.
I too hate sense and can not wait for a froyo rom to be built once AOSP for 2.2 finally comes out.
you can just turn it off for now:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tTSXHJRLppU
How much for the N1?! lol
But I guess the best you can do is wait for an original 2.1 or 2.2 ROM to come out for the EVO.
After giving the phone a little more time, I am getting used to it. It's a good phone, I just wish all the HTC stuff was optional. I can just blast through anything on my N1, so it's hard to get used to. I got a nice quick sale on the Nexus, so at least thats a plus. : )
I see some of you people really do love this rom, I hear some great things about it, but I hear one thing that make me say "why would they leave that out? "
Reasons I'm tempted to try it
- tethering is enabled (like its supposed to be)
-i hear about great battery life
Things I don't like but could get past
-no sense (which means looking for new widgets to mimic the ones in sense)
Reason I haven't taken the plunge
-NO 4G! I live in a 4g area so to not have it available to me is ridiculous! Any word on why it isn't up and running?
So tel me something about cm6 that makes it such a great rom
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for one it's ridiculous fast i haven't used a faster rom. two battery life i've gone two days without charging before and my phone still had some juice. three stock android feels better (just my personal opinion). also 4g is going to be in cm really soon so you might want to just wait for that. hope this helps and i would defiantly recommend you try it.
If 4g is a priority then keep a rom with 4g support. CM is suppose to have 4g support soon though, and I personally love the AOSP look and feel, and not too much Sense.
Soon as 4g is there I'll try it, see what the fuss is about, I like the speed though
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I am betting that the only reason the battery would be better is because there is no sense... and possibly some things are tweaked out of the gate. I get pretty good battery with a sense ROM when I have WiFi enabled and mobile networking not set to be on all the time.
Cm with zendroid or snap is RIDICULOUSLY fast... an I use zendeoid set at 844-245 setcpu and it feels so much better then not just sense but any rom that's not aosp. I could never ever live sense anymore.
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the_hustleman said:
I see some of you people really do love this rom, I hear some great things about it, but I hear one thing that make me say "why would they leave that out? "
Reasons I'm tempted to try it
- tethering is enabled (like its supposed to be)
-i hear about great battery life
Things I don't like but could get past
-no sense (which means looking for new widgets to mimic the ones in sense)
Reason I haven't taken the plunge
-NO 4G! I live in a 4g area so to not have it available to me is ridiculous! Any word on why it isn't up and running?
So tel me something about cm6 that makes it such a great rom
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Just so you know they have 4g working on cm7 it should be released before Christmas... changelog was posted last night for the update...
Most ppl like it because it shows off the evo true capabilities, sense holds it back with so much bloat. The speed is astronomical and battery life is awesome.
Also if you want sense like Widgets just download launcherpro which has the same widgets ..
Hope that shed a little light for you.
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Just so you know they have 4g working on cm7 it should be released before Christmas... changelog was posted last night for the update...
Most ppl like it because it shows off the evo true capabilities, sense holds it back with so much bloat. The speed is astronomical and battery life is awesome.
Also if you want sense like Widgets just download launcherpro which has the same widgets ..
Hope that shed a little light for you.
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Is there any type of app or installation to mimic the facebook contacts being added?
If so, I think that's the next rom I try, but one question, I hear the market doesn't work unless you use something called gapps, what is that and where do I get it from?
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personal experience
I tried CyanogenMod 3 times in the last 3 months and it has never worked as good for me as for the masses, I always thought it was suppost to be the best, I did notice that downloads completed faster but something wasn't right, was always glitchy i could never tell if it was CM or AWD although i hate to say ADW cause until just a couple days ago its been my favorite launcher for a while. when i hit the app drawer the transitions where horrible and not smooth and crashed alot.
Im not fond of the white menu either. last tested on 12/15 it could have been the lastest nightly or stable not sure. I may try it again at another time or when it is a fully functional Rom
Okay that's understandable . Cm almost has 4g and HDMI which would make it fully functional. And gingerbread is also coming soon which will remove the ugly whiteness. And then sense Roms shall be scarce and inferior to the great cm
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Is there any type of app or installation to mimic the facebook contacts being added?
If so, I think that's the next rom I try, but one question, I hear the market doesn't work unless you use something called gapps, what is that and where do I get it from?
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The Facebook app does this on cm6 or any soap rom for that matter. Also gapps is basically making your phone a Google phone instead of just a android phone.
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people like it so its good for them, i have other roms i like that i think is good, the beauty of it is we have top notch dev's supporting our phone, the rest is opinion
ive flashed a couple roms but i have not flashed them all nor do i claim to know everything about every rom but my opinion is that cm6.1.1 is the best rom ive used. its the little things that i like about cm6.1.1. for instance the gestures on the lockscreen was a nice addition, being able to use the menu button to unlock the screen is nice. being able to change what buttons you want in the status bar power widget. being able to hold down the home button and launch any app i want is a nice feature, i personally have that feature set to load itching thumb to give me that webOS feel i miss rom my pre.
the 4g means very little to me i have no need for it. i do live in san antonio and we do have 4g but i rarely used it. i am looking forward to having 4g in the cm update but it is more of a looking forward to what else these devs can do than "omg i have 4g on my phone again." i have no need to need such a fast connection away from my house. if i am going to download something that requires such fast speed i will simply use my laptop.
So my Wife needed a new phone, and get out of T-Mobile, and on to a good family plan. Since I was with Sprint already the last year with my EVO 4G, I said get the Nexus-S this weekend, will be a great little phone compared to her old school MyTouch 3G.
So we went to the Sprint store my buddy is a Mngr at, and I got the bug and also picked up a Nexus-S 4G, and set us up on a killer family plan.
- What I like about the Nexus-S;
Lightweight and fits in pocket easily
Screen is beautiful
Battery life is longer than rooted EVO
Pure "vanilla" Google OS
2.3.4 Video Chat for the Wife and kids
- What I don't like;
Miss the "Sense UI"
4" curved screen, makes it feel much smaller than the EVO's 4.3" flat tablet like display.
No Sprint Visual Voicemail
My EVO 4G was rooted with Myn's RS 5, and I LOVED it, but the phone felt a little too thick and bulky at times, and heavy in the pocket, especially with Summer now, the phone does not fit in a short sleeve pocket like the Nexus easily does. And even with netarchy kernel and all battery life still was crappy compared to rooted Nexus-S.
But I seem to really miss the "Sense UI" the most, just a bit of a shock getting used to vanilla Android. I liked the Sense e-mail app, for non gmail accounts. The dialer and contacts was nice. The keyboard was sweet with arrows keys. Stock Visual Voicemail was great.
Not too sure what to do now ? Keep the Nexus-S and wait for CM 7.1 ROM that supports 2.3.4 and see how I like that ? I was a big fan of Cyanogen back on my Nexus-One, but then got turned onto Sense. Or go back to EVO and upgrade to EVO 3D next month and wait for Myn's ROM on that beast ?
I'm not sure if anyone can answer that for you..I mean if you really really want sense ui that bad you'll have to get a HTC phone..
Only you can decide that...Personally I love vanilla android but thats just me.
I agree with MrDSL. I've also become a huge fan of Sense and the perks that come along with having the Sense UI. It would be hard for me to go to vanilla Android now, as well. Me personally, I'm sticking with HTC for the Sense UI because I like it that much. It would take a behemoth of a phone made by another company that puts the Evo to shame, and I don't see that happening anytime soon.
Evo 3D with more power and with the bigger and better Sense UI?
Yes, please.
Personally, if you can't get used to the vanilla stock os [I personally like it] I would just wait till the Evo 3D and get it with the sense 3.0 and let myn have at it.
If you like Sense UI so much waiting for CyanogenMod is absolutely pointless... They ONLY do AOSP....
Might as well head back to your Evo... Or give LauncherPro Plus a shot, as its the closet thing to Sense you'll get.
I am getting much more comfortable with my Nexus-S 4G today, after a full work day of use. Loving the feel of it in the palm of my hand, rests so nicely, and the screen is gorgeous. The battery life on the Nexus is amazing so far, being unplugged for 6+ hours, and not even half drained yet, at 60% now, and that's with tons of phone calls and plenty of texting as well as web browsing. And still not even rooted yet, so no custom ROM's or kernels, can only imagine the battery life with a good netarchy
The EVO to me is borderline tablet big, not just the 4.3" screen, but was also very thick and heavy. Not a fun phone to carry around in light shorts in the Summer. But sometimes that was nice, making it feel like a mini laptop, with lots of space to work with, and the Sense e-mail and contacts were very well designed.
But the more I am with the Nexus-S, the more I like it. yeah I misses the Sense UI, but getting used to vanilla is nice too Just waiting for CM 7.1 to come out, and then this phone should really be amazing.
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Personally, if you can't get used to the vanilla stock os [I personally like it] I would just wait till the Evo 3D and get it with the sense 3.0 and let myn have at it.
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This. And if you love the Sense UI as much as I do, you'll get that nagging feeling you're missing something even weeks after you've gotten used to vanilla Android. I find myself flashing CM7 for the speed and newest Android versions/features.
But after a week or so of tinkering, I found that I was just trying my damndest to make it like Sense then end up flashing a Sense rom. It's not just the widgets, but the social integration, phone-wide theming, and all the options. I say return the Nexus-S and wait for the Evo 3d. It can't be much more than a month away, and it'll blow the pants off of the Nexus S, stock Sense "bloated" and all.
edit: Oh yeah, if you decide to keep the Nexus S, there's tons of apps/widgets/launchers that'll replicate the overall feel of Sense. Obviously you won't get the little things (like how the in-call screen will show you your contact's most recent social network update) but you can get pretty close. For CM7 I'm using Launcher Pro Plus for the widgets and Fancy Widget Pro for the Clock.
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This. And if you love the Sense UI as much as I do, you'll get that nagging feeling you're missing something even weeks after you've gotten used to vanilla Android. I find myself flashing CM7 for the speed and newest Android versions/features.
But after a week or so of tinkering, I found that I was just trying my damndest to make it like Sense then end up flashing a Sense rom. It's not just the widgets, but the social integration, phone-wide theming, and all the options. I say return the Nexus-S and wait for the Evo 3d. It can't be much more than a month away, and it'll blow the pants off of the Nexus S, stock Sense "bloated" and all.
edit: Oh yeah, if you decide to keep the Nexus S, there's tons of apps/widgets/launchers that'll replicate the overall feel of Sense. Obviously you won't get the little things (like how the in-call screen will show you your contact's most recent social network update) but you can get pretty close. For CM7 I'm using Launcher Pro Plus for the widgets and Fancy Widget Pro for the Clock.
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Once you become accustomed to the widgets of sense, there really is no replacement. the messaging widget, email widget, the calender widget, etc are all things you can't really get with a stock android experience. i mean sure there's handcent and chomp sms, but they're buggy and screwy and you have to pay to use them without ads (which is freaking stupid).
I still can't find an email widget that's as simple and easy as HTCs widget. Same with the calender widget.
Plus, the friend stream and twitter updaters that are themed to the phone. It kind of sucks to theme a phone black and blue and then have to deal with their opaque white backgrounds, it's an eyesore.
The nexus S is a great phone (despite the lack of an sd card and being made entirely out of plastic), but if it's sense you crave, I'd go with the quoted poster's idea, return it and get an Evo 3D. All the badass, PLUS SENSE!
After reading the replies, having a hard time making a decision. The Nexus-S is growing on me, but it's the little things, like making a call to a vendor just now, I need to press 1, to get to the office personal, with the Nexus I have to press dial pad, then press 1, but with Sense the dial pad is there with the contact info at same time. Just these crazy minor things it seems Sense just got right, and that vanilla Android is still lacking.
My main beef with the EVO was the size, too thick and heavy. I have seen the Thunderbolt, and that looks more streamlined, and a hair bit thinner and smaller ? Or maybe they just designed it to look slimmer. If the EVO 3D matches the slick look of the Thunderbolt, will be very tempted to go that route instead.
Zorachus said:
After reading the replies, having a hard time making a decision. The Nexus-S is growing on me, but it's the little things, like making a call to a vendor just now, I need to press 1, to get to the office personal, with the Nexus I have to press dial pad, then press 1, but with Sense the dial pad is there with the contact info at same time. Just these crazy minor things it seems Sense just got right, and that vanilla Android is still lacking.
My main beef with the EVO was the size, too thick and heavy. I have seen the Thunderbolt, and that looks more streamlined, and a hair bit thinner and smaller ? Or maybe they just designed it to look slimmer. If the EVO 3D matches the slick look of the Thunderbolt, will be very tempted to go that route instead.
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It'll be about the same size (same size screen at least). It won't have the kick stand so that might allow a thinner design but otherwise it'll be about the same size.
I think the Evo is a little big too, but for me there's far more problems with the Nexus S than a few tweaks for me.
I just got a nexus s personally its not all that imo. I'm probably going to sell it when something else comes out. I prefer my evo any day.
I just couldn't do without hdmi and external storage. I also don't get the appeal of stock android, sense UI is awesome. I love my Evo and only a better Evo could replace it, thus I'm waiting for the Evo 3d.
With my current setup battery life isn't an issue, it gets me through an entire day and I haven't had to charge my phone b4 I goto bed for months (used to be 2x charging a day).
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It'll be about the same size (same size screen at least). It won't have the kick stand so that might allow a thinner design but otherwise it'll be about the same size.
I think the Evo is a little big too, but for me there's far more problems with the Nexus S than a few tweaks for me.
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Evo too big? Pause. Are you a man?
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Evo too big? Pause. Are you a man?
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lmao... I was thinking the same thing. My nook is too big to be a phone, but the evo is just right. I wish they had a non 3d Evo coming out, cause i give a crap about 3d... its a damn phone. but the rest of the specs are drool inducing.
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I just got a nexus s personally its not all that imo. I'm probably going to sell it when something else comes out. I prefer my evo any day.
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What don't you like about it? I was playing with it earlier and I'm thinking about getting it after I get my Evo replacement.
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What don't you like about it? I was playing with it earlier and I'm thinking about getting it after I get my Evo replacement.
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I have big hands so the evo fits perfect, I'm not crazy about its curves I really like the square (manly) look of the evo, no hdmi, and no removable storage (I hold alot of movies). I will say that the battery life is amazing! I'm pretty sure in about 2 months ill sell it and probably get the evo 3D.
Going back to my Sprint store tomorrow evening, return the Nexus-S and get my EVO "Myn's RS 5" back from the dead
Didn't realize how much I have become accustomed to "Sense UI" The default e-mail app is perfect, the dialer...contacts...calendar...Going to "Stock" Android OS was a bit of a shock, and I did not hate it, but for sure not worth keeping. Sense is great for business too, just short cuts to everything, the little things make a big difference.
And add Myn's AWESOME ROM to the EVO, and it becomes a Sensation
I have my name on the list for the EVO-2 ( EVO 3D ) Here's hoping Myn gets one too and get a nice new ROM in the oven
ok...another day with the Nexus-S, and it is growing on me finally
Several apps I needed to install to get rid of the lame stock ones.
- #1 was "Better Keyboard 8", a much improved keypad for texting, e-mails, etc...larger buttons, smarter layout of keys, and all black themed.
- #2 was "Go SMS", hands down the best text app, and with a cool black theme, blows away the boring stock Messaging, very customizable.
- #3 was "YouMail" Makes it just like the stock Sprint Visual Voicemail on my EVO.
- #4 was "Opera Mini" web browser, night and day faster than the stock internet, very smooth and no lagging.
- #5 was "On Call End" when done with a phone call, bring you back to home screen, instead of dialer.
- #6 was "Dialer2" an all black themed dialer, but shows the recent calls on top with keypad below, shows how long ago the call was made or missed, more like the "Sense UI" dialer.
- #7 was "Beautiful Widgets" a must have for the coolest clock/weather screen.
And several other apps, but these seven above were must haves, and make my Nexus-S much improved, and closer to the "Sense UI" stuff I missed from my EVO, and a lot of these apps have option for black theme which I really like on this phone.
But still the one MISSING app I can not find anywhere is a good default e-mail client for the non @gmail accounts. The default Sense UI e-mail on the EVO was ****ing spot on perfect, wish there was something in the Market to match that ?
You can try the K9 Email app. its not glossy fancy, but it does the job well.
Also on your Nexus S, how do you like not having the notification light? [Not being a smart ass.]
after a few days i dont like how the syncing is handled, im getting a bit tired of the whole ui in general. it's just not pleasant anymore. I even tried to switch launchers to nova. Then realized how much better ics stock would be on this. Then nova decided to force close on me so its unusable on the one x. man these roms cant come quick enough, ditching sense asap. Anyone else feel sense gets real old really fast? Don't get me wrong i love the phone, and the screen really has me in awe. Just tired of sense and want a more stock experience.
I've got the one x after a year of using a Wildfire. I don't have any problems with sense 4.0
I actually like Sense 4, its more pleasing to use than vanilla ICS in my opinion but still keeps the best parts of the plain ICS theme.
At the end of the day, if you don't use the Sense widgets everything else is pretty much the same as stock to look at. The app drawer even flows the same way.
But messaging and other parts look better.
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Hey guys,
I recently flashed between ARHD and LeeDroiD, both already fantastic ROMs, considering the Device just launched. Great respect for that dedication and support!
Tho, it seems both ROMs offer a No-Sense installation, or its possible.
AFAIK, Sense UI 4.0 still is pretty buggy. Memory Management is fuxort and causes Rosie Reboots every now and then. Plus, it seems like Sense / Rosie is causing the Phone to slow down a tad. When I use Trebuchet or Apex Launcher, Screen scrolling is WONDERFULLY smooth. Noticeably smoother than on my previous devices (Desire HD, Galaxy S2 i9100).
Question is: Even tho I always loved Sense UI, does removing Sense / Rosie speed up the phone in general? I would be perfectly fine with Apex or Trebuchet, as they run absolutely smooth so far, even with quite some widgets.
Thing is: I noticed alot of games acting up after a while, little lags every now and then, most likely a sign of cleaning up memory in the background to get the active App (in this case the game) more spare Memory to fill up. Sense UI and its Widgets seem to consume quite alot Memory, and because of the bugged memory management, it starts to lag more and more. After quitting the game, Rosie usually reboots.
I love Sense, always have, missed it alot after switching to the Galaxy S2 back in the days, but to speed up the phone and get rid of occasional lags, I would sacrifice Sense for the time being (until a new Firmware fixes issues).
I am still running Sense 4.0, but before I flash again, I would like to have your opinion and maybe experience with this matter.
Thanks guys!
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Removing sense will improve speed and battery life as its a very hungry part of our systems.
My sense stripper includes Nova as of last night
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Whoa, the chiefs are answering themselves
Guys, you 2 got GREAT ROMs running. Still flashing between them
I will try both Non-Sense'd ROMs. Sense really seems effin memory hungy. Hopefully it speeds things up for now
And you 2 keep the goodies commin'!
Your thread just got their attention, because you asked this question in the wrong forum. (-;
Next time pls ask such things in the Q&A forum or in the threads of the roms.
Moved to Q&A.
Please don't ask questions in Development Section.
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I am now using ATHENS in pair with From Cleaner and it is very fast.
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Hey,
This looks like a good place to ask this question ....
How are the Widgets in Sense 4.0 compare to Sense 3.x in quantity & options ?
Thank you in advance,
Itai.
LeeDroid said:
Removing sense will improve speed and battery life as its a very hungry part of our systems.
My sense stripper includes Nova as of last night
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Yeps and my rom on the phone arm
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Sorry for asking in the wrong section. I should've known better, considering for how long I am already a Member
I am currently trying No-Sense. The phone feels faster, indeed. Better response, apps start a little faster, haven't had a Launcher Reboot ever since (but I am using Apex instead of Nova as for now).
Too bad the Lockscreen-Shortcuts are gone, but thats normal since there's no HTC Sense Launcher anymore (Dock-Icons).
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Removing sense will improve speed and battery life as its a very hungry part of our systems.
My sense stripper includes Nova as of last night
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LOL, Lee's sense stripper
I am absolutely astonished now much work some ppl put in sense. I wouldn't waste a second on this launcher as it's just way too bloated (and 4.0 should be stripped ), lags on my 4-core phone, isn't able to scroll a live wallpaper smoothly and so on. Especially with launchers like Apex out there, lightweight and very fast plus customizable, I just don't get it.
Anyhow, we need a good camera alternative asap so we can go AOSP...
Sweeeeet, will try this as soon as I get my new unit.
Does anybod know if the camera UI is gone too or not?
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I am absolutely astonished now much work some ppl put in sense. I wouldn't waste a second on this launcher as it's just way too bloated (and 4.0 should be stripped ), lags on my 4-core phone, isn't able to scroll a live wallpaper smoothly and so on.
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Maybe some people like the consistent look and feel, and the at-a-glance information that the Sense widgets give them. People like me.
Lags? That depends on your perception. I don't have a problem with waiting 0.5ms to flip between one screen and the next. Maybe I'm just a patient person!!!!!!!!!
The only thing i ll miss (as i m considering using AOSP launcher, never been fan of sense) is the HTC music widget, notes widget and calendar widget. I ve been HTC fan for some years now and always been going AOSP as soon as i get the device I always missed those widgets from HTC
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Maybe some people like the consistent look and feel, and the at-a-glance information that the Sense widgets give them. People like me.
Lags? That depends on your perception. I don't have a problem with waiting 0.5ms to flip between one screen and the next. Maybe I'm just a patient person!!!!!!!!!
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After every RAM intensive app whenever I went back "home" I was greeted by a "loading" screen and I had to wait several secs to bring rosie back to life, never happened to me with Apex.
Having to stare at a loading text on a brand new quad core phone just to load the launcher is a bit embarrassing, don't you think?
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The only thing i ll miss (as i m considering using AOSP launcher, never been fan of sense) is the HTC music widget, notes widget and calendar widget. I ve been HTC fan for some years now and always been going AOSP as soon as i get the device I always missed those widgets from HTC
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I don't like the calendar widget at all - I use a combination of simple calendar widget and business calendars week view, gives me more info over the next few days than a bunch of dots
As for notes I use catch, but there is one very good post it style note app out there but thats not the way I am using notes on my phone and my player of choice, PowerAmp has several nice widgets, so this is also not something I would miss.
What I like and would really miss are the camera app obviously, the tasks widget (for the ability to sync with G and exchange) and the mail app which is really nice. The AOSP is nice too though, so its acutally onle the camera app that will prevent me from going AOSP.
Most probably I am going to try this ROM, AOSP themed sense ROM, once the unlock before answering a call bug is squashed.
why bother with an htc phone if you dont like sense , get samsung or join i want iphone crowd
atrako1973 said:
why bother with an htc phone if you dont like sense , get samsung or join i want iphone crowd
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Great post...
I came from HD2, best fkin phone ever, and got HOX, the next best fkin phone ever, so don't you tell me to go get an iPhone! This is about the biggest insult you can make here on xda, shame on you!
I bother with htc phones because I used to have a HD2, a diamond before and a 3300 even before that. They were all very well built and had some good hw specs. Back in the wm days, sense was a revelation and on my HD2 I could flash whatever I want, but I was shocked when I tried sense. Now on my HOX, I learned to h8 it once again. If it wasn't for the camera app, I'd be long gone. It's a real shame that the HOX has such a great cam with all those great features that can only be used together with the rest of sense. These ugly icons are so outdated, have a look at AOSP to get a feel what a menu should look like nowadays.
I never liked Samsung, the GSII had something cheap when you had it in your hand, nothing as solid and nice like htc. And I h8 them for trying to copy fkin apple, wth would want that anyway. I h8 this carrier / manufacturer customizing crap, most of the bases are flat out rubbish and only delay the updates of optimzations to the phone and make it unusable. My gf wanted to get rid of her defy, I rooted it and flashed CM7. She was absolutely amazed and at the same time upset/confused, htf a company could fk up their own product so badly! These guys should try to keep themselves apart with hw and design choices, not with bloat ware and stupid overlays.
And last but not least, I buy a phone because of the hw, not the sw, especially if the sw is or should be open source!
What better is there than a community working on the android base (CM / AOKP)?
I h8 the idea of now being forced to wait for a company to bring out new updates to my system, I really do...
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Great post...
I came from HD2, best fkin phone ever, and got HOX, the next best fkin phone ever, so don't you tell me to go get an iPhone! This is about the biggest insult you can make here on xda, shame on you!
I bother with htc phones because I used to have a HD2, a diamond before and a 3300 even before that. They were all very well built and had some good hw specs. Back in the wm days, sense was a revelation and on my HD2 I could flash whatever I want, but I was shocked when I tried sense. Now on my HOX, I learned to h8 it once again. If it wasn't for the camera app, I'd be long gone. It's a real shame that the HOX has such a great cam with all those great features that can only be used together with the rest of sense. These ugly icons are so outdated, have a look at AOSP to get a feel what a menu should look like nowadays.
I never liked Samsung, the GSII had something cheap when you had it in your hand, nothing as solid and nice like htc. And I h8 them for trying to copy fkin apple, wth would want that anyway. I h8 this carrier / manufacturer customizing crap, most of the bases are flat out rubbish and only delay the updates of optimzations to the phone and make it unusable. My gf wanted to get rid of her defy, I rooted it and flashed CM7. She was absolutely amazed and at the same time upset/confused, htf a company could fk up their own product so badly! These guys should try to keep themselves apart with hw and design choices, not with bloat ware and stupid overlays.
And last but not least, I buy a phone because of the hw, not the sw, especially if the sw is or should be open source!
What better is there than a community working on the android base (CM / AOKP)?
I h8 the idea of now being forced to wait for a company to bring out new updates to my system, I really do...
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I don't know how you like the stock camera app >.< Only thing good about it is the UI. Photo and video quality is atrociously bad. I LOVE the UI, but I can't take the horrible compression so I use Camera360 and save my images with no filters instead >.<
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After every RAM intensive app whenever I went back "home" I was greeted by a "loading" screen and I had to wait several secs to bring rosie back to life, never happened to me with Apex.
Having to stare at a loading text on a brand new quad core phone just to load the launcher is a bit embarrassing, don't you think?
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And did someone die in those "several secs"?