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I moved to an area where T-mobile and the N1 was not cutting it unfortunately. So the EVO was the first pick for me when it came down to switching carriers. I love how the phone looks and feels but I really don't like HTC Sense.
As of right now I don't really have plans on rooting my phone but I would really like to get rid of all the HTC stuff. I am using the stock launcher but I would like all the other HTC apps to go back to stock as well. Some of them are okay, but I just prefer the clean and simple look of the stock Android OS.
Can everything be removed through Settings: Applications: Manage Apps? And can I chose to go back to the HTC stuff if I ever felt like it?
i think that the best you're going to be able to do right now is to pull all the widgets off. you really can't just 'remove' sense ui. it's integrated pretty deeply.
i'm also off an n1, and there are a LOT of things i miss, dev wise. however, i do love the size of the screen (even tho it looks totally washed out and drab in comparison).
you'll be fine. just pull the widgets off. get a new launcher off the market, or a whole new home.
Thanks for the reply. I am interested in how you have your EVO at this time. Any suggestion on the launcher? Sense isn't bad... it's quick and does the job, but it just feels bloated and kinda cluttery for me.
I like how integrated it is with contacts and some other minor stuff even when using another launcher such as adw.launcher or launcherpro. I'll just have to build a custom rom for myself eventually when I gather more knowledge, and hope all goes well.
unfortunately you can't. sense isn't just bloated the apps crammed on the phone, but it's also hardcoded into parts of the operating system itself. you can change the launcher, but you can't ever have a fully vanilla android experience until one of the genius devs here creates a rom based on something like aosp. the good news is, when that happens, it's very likely froyo will be the basis for it.
i agree though, i love the clean, fast, simple, "real" android look over the busy, bloated, steampunk contraption that is the sense ui. i think it's stupid htc doesn't offer a plain android version, as plenty of people have no use for all the crap they force on us.
fortunately the evo handles all that overhead well, unlike the poor hero that was reduced to a crawl under the weight of it.
That's a real shame. You should definitely be given the option to use the standard Android OS. Oh well, I havent even had the phone 24 hours. I should get used to it. : )
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i'm also off an n1, and there are a LOT of things i miss, dev wise. however, i do love the size of the screen (even tho it looks totally washed out and drab in comparison).
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yes it does I try not to look at my nexus one screen anymore because looking at it and then looking at the evo while I love the 4.3" the colors are so much richer and blacker on the nexus one. I am going to miss it once I sell it but I'm sure once I get use to the evo and don't have an nexus one to compare it to wont be so bad.
I too hate sense and can not wait for a froyo rom to be built once AOSP for 2.2 finally comes out.
you can just turn it off for now:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tTSXHJRLppU
How much for the N1?! lol
But I guess the best you can do is wait for an original 2.1 or 2.2 ROM to come out for the EVO.
After giving the phone a little more time, I am getting used to it. It's a good phone, I just wish all the HTC stuff was optional. I can just blast through anything on my N1, so it's hard to get used to. I got a nice quick sale on the Nexus, so at least thats a plus. : )
Hey there fellas,
Well we all pick our "Favorite" between the two and no doubt they both have their ups and downs but I wanted to start a straight forward list of Pros and Cons of each. Please give facts and information, not just flames/troll posts.
My thoughts
+ = Pro
- = Con
Sense :
+720p camera
+Usually stable/fast response time
-Less battery control ( under/over volting, HAVS, etc )
-UI is usually less smooth and fluid
AOSP :
More or less the mirror of what I said about Sense
Sense if you have not so much time on your hands, AOSP if you have a ton of time on your hands.
I'm very particular about how my phone looks and acts, and while AOSP setups can be both truly breathtaking and faster, my experience with Launcher Pro and hunting for the widgets I saw in screenshots... yeah, I don't have time for that garbage. I was never satisfied and the widgets always had a function missing that Sense already had covered or it just straight up looked just like Sense. I ended up just flashing Warm TwoPointTwo and went no further than getting the best designed wallpaper I could possibly find and I was more than satisfied. There are still plenty of AOSP setups that flat out make me drool but a lot of times they don't post their mods, and I just don't have time to go back and forth between widgets or search user posts in thread after thread, forum after forum for the hotness.
I don't use my phone for anything but communicating, movies and games every now and then so Sense taking up all my RAM is actually practical. The UI is the single most used thing on my phone so the RAM can have it.
Very well thought out and reasonable. If you like sense check out the "Uber Kingdom revolution" found here :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1088013
I actually just tried it myself and I may have swapped back to sense myself! lol
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Sense if you have not so much time on your hands, AOSP if you have a ton of time on your hands.
I'm very particular about how my phone looks and acts, and while AOSP setups can be both truly breathtaking and faster, my experience with Launcher Pro and hunting for the widgets I saw in screenshots... yeah, I don't have time for that garbage. I was never satisfied and the widgets always had a function missing that Sense already had covered or it just straight up looked just like Sense. I ended up just flashing Warm TwoPointTwo and went no further than getting the best designed wallpaper I could possibly find and I was more than satisfied. There are still plenty of AOSP setups that flat out make me drool but a lot of times they don't post their mods, and I just don't have time to go back and forth between widgets or search user posts in thread after thread, forum after forum for the hotness.
I don't use my phone for anything but communicating, movies and games every now and then so Sense taking up all my RAM is actually practical. The UI is the single most used thing on my phone so the RAM can have it.
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Reizvoller said:
My thoughts
+ = Pro
- = Con
Sense :
+720p camera
+Usually stable/fast response time
-Less battery control ( under/over volting, HAVS, etc )
-UI is usually less smooth and fluid
AOSP :
More or less the mirror of what I said about Sense
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Depends on which version of AOSP. Froyo has 720p but gingerbread does not. And it's been my experience that AOSP has faster response time than sense. And as for HAVS and what not, that depends on your kernel, and there are some sense kernels out there with it.
I love the bells and whistles that sense brings to the phone but battery life is a serious consideration. I spent a lot of time with cm7 and was very pleased with how you could setup every thing but once I got on sense 3.0 its been really hard to go back, even with the battery issues
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I love the bells and whistles that sense brings to the phone but battery life is a serious consideration. I spent a lot of time with cm7 and was very pleased with how you could setup every thing but once I got on sense 3.0 its been really hard to go back, even with the battery issues
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Couldn't agree more. My friend and I flashed JoelZ's Sense 3.0 ROM at the same time, he's since switched back because "pretty UI's don't matter if your phone is dead after a few hours".
Since I text a lot and love the Sense text UI, I don't think I can go back anymore.
I get about equal battery on both, but i get the best battery with newts shift and wildstangs stock 2.0, bettter life than aosp. My thing with aosp is i was always tryin to make those look like sense, so i came to the conclusion i prefer sense. Way better cam, ui much better, 2.1 sense super smooth.im not into all those mods, themes, n apps. I like my smartphone for my business stuff and music. The sense features give me all i need, and i can easily get a full day with heavy use on a year old stock battery, just got to be smart with setti.gs.
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AOSP if im going to be out for a while ( i carry 3 batteries anyway)
Sense when i need everything to work as planned (albeit with some lag)
so i use both. i cant decide.
AOSP and the reason is the CM7 team.
I love the ET4G. I came from the 3D and as much as I hated the problems with the signal on that phone I liked Sense better.
Which would you prefer?
I love my EVO but I actually despise Sense. I think HTC has done a very thorough job of creating an identifying UI and I can see why some like it, but I can't stand the bloated pretense it harbors. IMO.
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I am one of the few who likes HTC Sense. TW is a nice change.. something different.
No way. Hate sense. "touchwiz" is just a launcher. We are as close to bone stock as we could be without being totally bone stock and I love it.
To each his own, of course.
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I prefer zeam
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I liked certain aspects of Sense... but I prefer TW on this phone for sure. Much more simple.
I like TW4.
Big fan of Touchwiz here.
Tw good *hulk speak*
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wont lie, if i could get sense running butter smooth like tw4 id take it.
i miss the contact intergration with sense when it comes to facebook and twitter.
by the way if anyone wants to follow me its @JUICEDUP216 lol
coming from the OG Evo, i really like touchwiz 4.0 over any version of sense i was running - tops 2.1
I haven't touched a Nexus phone in over a year - is that raw android or does that have a launcher?
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Nexus is always stock Android.
prefer the look of sense but like the fuctionality of tw4
Give me a pure AOSP with adw ex anyday over sense/blurr/tw
They all have great little functions but when it comes down to it all of them have something I hate
Id choose tw over sense if a gun was to my head and I couldnt ever get pure aosp
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Coming from a Nexus and having a Evo before i prefer Pure naked android over anything but this new touchwiz is my favorite manufacturer skin.
Really only miss my Evo 3D lockscreen.
Aosp is boring as hell. I use LauncherPro.
From what I've seen Ice Cream Sandwich will be something worth jumping to.
ICS launcher is already in XDA
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Coming from a Nexus and having a Evo before i prefer Pure naked android over anything but this new touchwiz is my favorite manufacturer skin.
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I keep hearing this sentiment echoed. Is touchwiz any deeper than a launcher? I don't see any evidence of that. Sure, there are a few Samsung customizations here and there. Device specific options like the Screen mode, etc. Then there is the camera.apk and dialer.apk which is often different from phone to phone. But aside from that touchwiz seems to be just a launcher.
Sense, on the other hand, has it's hooks way deep down in the OS and at times probably in the hardware as well.
I haven't rooted yet, I've been busy, but I will tonight and I'm going to try to yank out touchwiz completely and make it as 'stock' as possible...something tells me that is going to be very easy.
All that said I've gotta admit Touchwiz is nowhere near the abomination that the Sense loving HTC crowd has always made it out to be. Sure, the icons are kinda goofy and the stock homescreen configuration (especially the main screen and wallpaper) is just embarrasing. But that can all be fixed with 10 minutes of no-root-required changes. It's fast, it's straight forward, it's light weight. It just looks like a mildly modified form of the stock launcher. I don't understand what the hate is, but, I also don't see how it is anything more than a launcher with native widgets...there are tons of those out there.
...I've always hated Sense....
I like TW because they aren't trying to do too much. I prefer it over Sense, but just by a little bit. I've gone back to Launcher Pro+ though. I am experiencing a little stutter at the start of switching homescreens however, but it's not horrible. I have widgets on every page which is causing this, but I know it's not the phone, but the OS.
I hate Sense but I love SRS enhancement. Sense ROMS always drain fast for me and are memory consuming. Anyone suffering the same pain as me?
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I came over from a Galaxy S 4G and I knew what I was getting when I switched. I must say now that I have it I really hate sense!! I knew there was an MIUI available so the sense only lasted about 20 minutes after un-boxing.
Really? I'm the exact opposite. AOSP is quick with good battery life but I can't stand it. It feels incomplete to me. Sense is the best to me, even though it might be a little slower and use more battery.
On a side note why would you want a HTC phone if you dislike Sense?
I am in agreement with you on this, the sense are a little flashy out of all the roms. They also have a lot of extra mods and different settings, which to me gives it a heavy feeling. The asop and akop aren't heavy at all, and they still have the same customization options that I want, yet very easy to use. I love my ICS, I loved CM7, i always find myself using an asop over sense
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Really? I'm the exact opposite. AOSP is quick with good battery life but I can't stand it. It feels incomplete to me. Sense is the best to me, even though it might be a little slower and use more battery.
On a side note why would you want a HTC phone if you dislike Sense?
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I couldn't agree with you more
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I did the exact same thing although I had to wait for the alpha rev for windows back in July. Anyone remember that?? Don't get me wrong HTC makes beast phones. But STOCK sense is garbage. If devs didn't put their custom tweaks into their roms I think a lot of people wouldn't use them.
I dunno about stock sense being garbage. I came from a Droid Eris though which is why I probably like sense now. Sense 2.1 ran at a crawl on that phone so AOSP Rom were the o ly way to make that phone run good. With the dinc2 though, I've noticed that sense ROMS just run better than aosp. The AOSP ROMS seem to lag after being on without a reboot. The sense ROMS don't seem to do that.
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Sense has some amazing widgets and I like most of the interface, but CM7 and MIUI roms are so much quicker. Luckliy I have Boot manager, so I can use on rom for a week, till I get bored, then switch it up. I no longer have to make backups and reflash. I always come back to sense though, mainly becuase of the widgets
Well the thing with Sense is if you come from a history of using it your going to like it no matter what. I mean I got the Droid Incredible 2 because it was free for me. I tried handling sense but replaced it after a week. This phone was the first HTC phone I ever had. (First Android for me was the Motorola Cliq XT since my intro to the smartphone world was through the iPhone). Just Sense is not like ICS where I just recently came from. And ICS was my baby.
I LOVE Sense!! And, for me at least, it has better battery life than AOSP ROMs although it is a little slower.
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I LOVE Sense!! And, for me at least, it has better battery life than AOSP ROMs although it is a little slower.
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Sense better battery life than aosp? No way.
I came to the dinc2 from an og droid, and I have to say I would take sense over aosp any day. And yes, I also get better battery life on sense. Then again, I bought an htc phone because I wanted sense.
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I came over from the OG Droid, so Sense was completely new to me when I got my Incredible 2 last summer. I tried it for about a month before I finally decided I just wasn't a fan, so I went to Go Launcher. A bit later, I decided to root the phone and try out some fancy new ROMs. I've been through a bunch of different selections since then. Generally anytime a new Sense ROM comes out, I see all the people that rave about it, so I wind up giving it a try. But it never fails, within a week or two, I wind up going back to an AOSP choice.
As far as battery life, I haven't personally noticed a huge different between the two. I've run Sense flashes that are good and battery, and others that are not as good. Same for AOSP. It the end, it basically comes down to me just not personally loving the Sense UI.
Sense:
. much better camera (especially in low light conditions)
. Better phone and contacts apk s . Better phone and speaker in call volumes
. Slightly better battery life
. More polished UI
. Feels like it's made for the phone
Aosp:
. Quicker, lighter, snappier
. Power toggles are awesome
. Feels incomplete
. In call volumes are questionable. They're either too low or too high.
Conclusion: can't go wrong with either one, but the edge goes to sense (until aosp ICS is fully functional)
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I thought I'd really like Sense, but once I used it, I just didn't care for it. Can't Stand the launcher - the enormous phone button, the dedicated "customize" button, etc... So I use ADW, which means I loose all the Sense widgets, which leaves little else of value.
The camera on Sense did seem to be better than AOSP, not sure why that would be. But I use either MIUI or CM7 as they're so much faster and, in my experience, do get better battery life.
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Can't Stand the launcher - the enormous phone button, the dedicated "customize" button, etc...
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Yep, the launcher kills Sense for me. Why on earth do they do that? That stupid customize button is one of the worst UI design decisions I've ever seen.
Ultimately, too, I'd rather have my phone run well than look pretty, so while I mess around with Sense ROMs when they come out, I always end up back on AOSP. I like HTC hardware, but Sense is more trouble than it's worth.
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Yea I have to agree with that much about sense. The launcher does blow pretty bad. The paginated app drawer is pretty sad too. I use go launcher pretty much because the HTC launcher is so bad.
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disconnecktie said:
Yea I have to agree with that much about sense. The launcher does blow pretty bad. The paginated app drawer is pretty sad too. I use go launcher pretty much because the HTC launcher is so bad.
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well certain versions of rosie are better than others....i like the mt4g slide version a lot (in tsm bullet, cheap plug) and its a lot different than normal rosie
bliss sense 3.5 rosie is barely recognizable as a sense launcher in its layout
and from what ive seen of ics sense 3.5/3.6/4.0 they completely redid the layout
I like bliss alright but i haven't tried any of the 3.5 ROMs on the dinc2 so I don't know how well they run.
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ChrisDDD said:
I thought I'd really like Sense, but once I used it, I just didn't care for it. Can't Stand the launcher - the enormous phone button, the dedicated "customize" button, etc... So I use ADW, which means I loose all the Sense widgets, which leaves little else of value.
The camera on Sense did seem to be better than AOSP, not sure why that would be. But I use either MIUI or CM7 as they're so much faster and, in my experience, do get better battery life.
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Let me clarify that I never use the sense launchers. Go is king for me, whether on sense or aosp
"the relentless pursuit of the perfect ROM "
Hey guys,
I recently flashed between ARHD and LeeDroiD, both already fantastic ROMs, considering the Device just launched. Great respect for that dedication and support!
Tho, it seems both ROMs offer a No-Sense installation, or its possible.
AFAIK, Sense UI 4.0 still is pretty buggy. Memory Management is fuxort and causes Rosie Reboots every now and then. Plus, it seems like Sense / Rosie is causing the Phone to slow down a tad. When I use Trebuchet or Apex Launcher, Screen scrolling is WONDERFULLY smooth. Noticeably smoother than on my previous devices (Desire HD, Galaxy S2 i9100).
Question is: Even tho I always loved Sense UI, does removing Sense / Rosie speed up the phone in general? I would be perfectly fine with Apex or Trebuchet, as they run absolutely smooth so far, even with quite some widgets.
Thing is: I noticed alot of games acting up after a while, little lags every now and then, most likely a sign of cleaning up memory in the background to get the active App (in this case the game) more spare Memory to fill up. Sense UI and its Widgets seem to consume quite alot Memory, and because of the bugged memory management, it starts to lag more and more. After quitting the game, Rosie usually reboots.
I love Sense, always have, missed it alot after switching to the Galaxy S2 back in the days, but to speed up the phone and get rid of occasional lags, I would sacrifice Sense for the time being (until a new Firmware fixes issues).
I am still running Sense 4.0, but before I flash again, I would like to have your opinion and maybe experience with this matter.
Thanks guys!
You can use my ROM in pair with ROM cleaner and Nova Launcher
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Removing sense will improve speed and battery life as its a very hungry part of our systems.
My sense stripper includes Nova as of last night
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Whoa, the chiefs are answering themselves
Guys, you 2 got GREAT ROMs running. Still flashing between them
I will try both Non-Sense'd ROMs. Sense really seems effin memory hungy. Hopefully it speeds things up for now
And you 2 keep the goodies commin'!
Your thread just got their attention, because you asked this question in the wrong forum. (-;
Next time pls ask such things in the Q&A forum or in the threads of the roms.
Moved to Q&A.
Please don't ask questions in Development Section.
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Whiskey
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A lot of users are waiting for AOSP Rom and I am of course one of them.
I am now using ATHENS in pair with From Cleaner and it is very fast.
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Hey,
This looks like a good place to ask this question ....
How are the Widgets in Sense 4.0 compare to Sense 3.x in quantity & options ?
Thank you in advance,
Itai.
LeeDroid said:
Removing sense will improve speed and battery life as its a very hungry part of our systems.
My sense stripper includes Nova as of last night
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Yeps and my rom on the phone arm
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Sorry for asking in the wrong section. I should've known better, considering for how long I am already a Member
I am currently trying No-Sense. The phone feels faster, indeed. Better response, apps start a little faster, haven't had a Launcher Reboot ever since (but I am using Apex instead of Nova as for now).
Too bad the Lockscreen-Shortcuts are gone, but thats normal since there's no HTC Sense Launcher anymore (Dock-Icons).
LeeDroid said:
Removing sense will improve speed and battery life as its a very hungry part of our systems.
My sense stripper includes Nova as of last night
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LOL, Lee's sense stripper
I am absolutely astonished now much work some ppl put in sense. I wouldn't waste a second on this launcher as it's just way too bloated (and 4.0 should be stripped ), lags on my 4-core phone, isn't able to scroll a live wallpaper smoothly and so on. Especially with launchers like Apex out there, lightweight and very fast plus customizable, I just don't get it.
Anyhow, we need a good camera alternative asap so we can go AOSP...
Sweeeeet, will try this as soon as I get my new unit.
Does anybod know if the camera UI is gone too or not?
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I am absolutely astonished now much work some ppl put in sense. I wouldn't waste a second on this launcher as it's just way too bloated (and 4.0 should be stripped ), lags on my 4-core phone, isn't able to scroll a live wallpaper smoothly and so on.
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Maybe some people like the consistent look and feel, and the at-a-glance information that the Sense widgets give them. People like me.
Lags? That depends on your perception. I don't have a problem with waiting 0.5ms to flip between one screen and the next. Maybe I'm just a patient person!!!!!!!!!
The only thing i ll miss (as i m considering using AOSP launcher, never been fan of sense) is the HTC music widget, notes widget and calendar widget. I ve been HTC fan for some years now and always been going AOSP as soon as i get the device I always missed those widgets from HTC
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Maybe some people like the consistent look and feel, and the at-a-glance information that the Sense widgets give them. People like me.
Lags? That depends on your perception. I don't have a problem with waiting 0.5ms to flip between one screen and the next. Maybe I'm just a patient person!!!!!!!!!
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After every RAM intensive app whenever I went back "home" I was greeted by a "loading" screen and I had to wait several secs to bring rosie back to life, never happened to me with Apex.
Having to stare at a loading text on a brand new quad core phone just to load the launcher is a bit embarrassing, don't you think?
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The only thing i ll miss (as i m considering using AOSP launcher, never been fan of sense) is the HTC music widget, notes widget and calendar widget. I ve been HTC fan for some years now and always been going AOSP as soon as i get the device I always missed those widgets from HTC
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I don't like the calendar widget at all - I use a combination of simple calendar widget and business calendars week view, gives me more info over the next few days than a bunch of dots
As for notes I use catch, but there is one very good post it style note app out there but thats not the way I am using notes on my phone and my player of choice, PowerAmp has several nice widgets, so this is also not something I would miss.
What I like and would really miss are the camera app obviously, the tasks widget (for the ability to sync with G and exchange) and the mail app which is really nice. The AOSP is nice too though, so its acutally onle the camera app that will prevent me from going AOSP.
Most probably I am going to try this ROM, AOSP themed sense ROM, once the unlock before answering a call bug is squashed.
why bother with an htc phone if you dont like sense , get samsung or join i want iphone crowd
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why bother with an htc phone if you dont like sense , get samsung or join i want iphone crowd
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Great post...
I came from HD2, best fkin phone ever, and got HOX, the next best fkin phone ever, so don't you tell me to go get an iPhone! This is about the biggest insult you can make here on xda, shame on you!
I bother with htc phones because I used to have a HD2, a diamond before and a 3300 even before that. They were all very well built and had some good hw specs. Back in the wm days, sense was a revelation and on my HD2 I could flash whatever I want, but I was shocked when I tried sense. Now on my HOX, I learned to h8 it once again. If it wasn't for the camera app, I'd be long gone. It's a real shame that the HOX has such a great cam with all those great features that can only be used together with the rest of sense. These ugly icons are so outdated, have a look at AOSP to get a feel what a menu should look like nowadays.
I never liked Samsung, the GSII had something cheap when you had it in your hand, nothing as solid and nice like htc. And I h8 them for trying to copy fkin apple, wth would want that anyway. I h8 this carrier / manufacturer customizing crap, most of the bases are flat out rubbish and only delay the updates of optimzations to the phone and make it unusable. My gf wanted to get rid of her defy, I rooted it and flashed CM7. She was absolutely amazed and at the same time upset/confused, htf a company could fk up their own product so badly! These guys should try to keep themselves apart with hw and design choices, not with bloat ware and stupid overlays.
And last but not least, I buy a phone because of the hw, not the sw, especially if the sw is or should be open source!
What better is there than a community working on the android base (CM / AOKP)?
I h8 the idea of now being forced to wait for a company to bring out new updates to my system, I really do...
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Great post...
I came from HD2, best fkin phone ever, and got HOX, the next best fkin phone ever, so don't you tell me to go get an iPhone! This is about the biggest insult you can make here on xda, shame on you!
I bother with htc phones because I used to have a HD2, a diamond before and a 3300 even before that. They were all very well built and had some good hw specs. Back in the wm days, sense was a revelation and on my HD2 I could flash whatever I want, but I was shocked when I tried sense. Now on my HOX, I learned to h8 it once again. If it wasn't for the camera app, I'd be long gone. It's a real shame that the HOX has such a great cam with all those great features that can only be used together with the rest of sense. These ugly icons are so outdated, have a look at AOSP to get a feel what a menu should look like nowadays.
I never liked Samsung, the GSII had something cheap when you had it in your hand, nothing as solid and nice like htc. And I h8 them for trying to copy fkin apple, wth would want that anyway. I h8 this carrier / manufacturer customizing crap, most of the bases are flat out rubbish and only delay the updates of optimzations to the phone and make it unusable. My gf wanted to get rid of her defy, I rooted it and flashed CM7. She was absolutely amazed and at the same time upset/confused, htf a company could fk up their own product so badly! These guys should try to keep themselves apart with hw and design choices, not with bloat ware and stupid overlays.
And last but not least, I buy a phone because of the hw, not the sw, especially if the sw is or should be open source!
What better is there than a community working on the android base (CM / AOKP)?
I h8 the idea of now being forced to wait for a company to bring out new updates to my system, I really do...
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I don't know how you like the stock camera app >.< Only thing good about it is the UI. Photo and video quality is atrociously bad. I LOVE the UI, but I can't take the horrible compression so I use Camera360 and save my images with no filters instead >.<
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After every RAM intensive app whenever I went back "home" I was greeted by a "loading" screen and I had to wait several secs to bring rosie back to life, never happened to me with Apex.
Having to stare at a loading text on a brand new quad core phone just to load the launcher is a bit embarrassing, don't you think?
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And did someone die in those "several secs"?