Ok so I see/read about all these leaks and blah blah and on every forum I go to people complain about gps I don't see the big deal I hardly use gps it doesn't seem to bother me what do u guys use gps so much for that when looking at a rom or phone gps has to be a priority just curious I guess yes I kno about traveling is that it or am I missing something
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Because I sold my gps to get my epic
And I have to drive places I don't know very well
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But I mean how off can ur gps be? Some people complain about meer feet I understand the traveling idea cause yea I use it to go to the other sides of town where I live but to choose whether or not ur gonna get a certain rom, phone, manufacture cause of gps problems I think its crazy..if that's the only reason some people are just picky I thought maybe gps dealt with somethin else that's why people cared about it so much?
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Before I got my tab I used GPS quite often. It was a feature I bought the phone for and I wanted it to work. Surprisingly my Gtab has a great GPS.
My wife the real estate agent seems to think it's pretty important too.
I stopped bringing my gps places. I pay for the service, it should work.
guess that makes since I'm still not gonna not get a phone I've been excited about cause I hear it has gps issues that's just me maybe
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Mine has made stupid mistakes that made me retrace an exit or 2, but i really can't say my regular gps has performed so perfectly.
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Ok so I see/read about all these leaks and blah blah and on every forum I go to people complain about gps I don't see the big deal I hardly use gps it doesn't seem to bother me what do u guys use gps so much for that when looking at a rom or phone gps has to be a priority just curious I guess yes I kno about traveling is that it or am I missing something
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The average person needs GPS for a lot of reasons. Some people actually use it rather than pretend they know where they are going, only to get lost, drive like an over cautious idiot causing accidents because they really dont know where they are going. I got my dad an Epic for the GPS because he's one of those people.
Gps is very useful for many reasons. Of course the obvious is getting around town.
But it also integrates with many apps that use your location. Such as yelp, or movie app, or facebook etc...
True, you could always manually enter your location, but one of the main selling points for me on a smartphone is to reduce the amount of things I need to do in my daily life.
Getting back to "getting around town". Instead of looking up directions and printing them out, and still possibly not know exactly where to go... I can hop in my car, pull up my calendar and literally touch phone twice to start navigating me to my destination.
Of course this won't apply to everyone, but I know it certainly helps me in my daily life.
Also just fyi, people aren't just containing about a few feet. A lot of roms have completely broken gps or gps that displays wrong location.
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Well for the reasons ^^^
And I'll put it this way. Lets say you have a car with 4 doors and u dont have many people ride in the back. Don't you still want your 2 rear windows to work?
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In many cases the GPS just locks up while driving somewhere. So it requires a reboot to get it going again...not cool at 70 MPH on the highway. The GPS on our phone takes the place of a Garmin or TOM TOM and is a very important feature for most of us when choosing a phone. For people that don't go anywhere unknown to them it is no big deal. I do AC work and go to 5-8 new places a day. Don't want to sit with a map trying to figure out where I am going.
Because when one lives in a major city, gps with real-time traffic reports is invaluable to have while trying to commute to and from work for example. Not a priority when you live in a small town and know all the roads and such.
Don't want to be like that one kid on the Verizon commercial who has a utility belt with 5-7 devices attached to it.
All-in-one is ideal.
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Mine has made stupid mistakes that made me retrace an exit or 2, but i really can't say my regular gps has performed so perfectly.Not all map programs are create equal. Google maps have some of the worst routing IQs around and that is why it is free. You get what you pay for. TOMTOM has the best routing IQs and so is Garmen both of these program are not available for Android yet. But I heard TOMTOM is coming soon.
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The main reason I care is the location aware stuff. Knowing where you are is incredibly useful. Plus it *is* my only GPS device.
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Because when one lives in a major city, gps with real-time traffic reports is invaluable to have while trying to commute to and from work for example.
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Thsi is the main reason I use my GPS.
Traffic around here can be a massive issue, and knowing where to avoid, can change what could have been an all day parking experience, into a 20min trip, simply by not getting stuck behind an accident that has the highway closed, with no way to exit
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Well for the reasons ^^^
And I'll put it this way. Lets say you have a car with 4 doors and u dont have many people ride in the back. Don't you still want your 2 rear windows to work?
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You hit the nail on the head!
Well, most location services work just fine without knowing EXACTLY where you are.
Other than the obvious that we don't need a reason, it should work, it can work, so when a rom comes out where it doesn't, we should fix that. The thing I use my phone for least is phone calls. That doesn't mean I should shrug my shoulders and go "oh well, I don't use it much" when I find out my phone doesn't actually ring for half my phone calls. (Ah HTC Hero, how I miss thee)
"mere feet" is a big deal while driving, even if that were the major complaint, which it isn't. (Sometimes it makes no attempts to talk to sats, other time it sees 3 but never locks. Other times it locks fine, but loses GPS at some point, never to return)
Mere feet in a big city can mean it not even knowing what road you're on, telling you to turn right 2 seconds after you passed your turn, and then not being narrowed in enough to realize it needs to reroute, until often times that route is now also moot.
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In many cases the GPS just locks up while driving somewhere. So it requires a reboot to get it going again...not cool at 70 MPH on the highway. The GPS on our phone takes the place of a Garmin or TOM TOM and is a very important feature for most of us when choosing a phone. For people that don't go anywhere unknown to them it is no big deal. I do AC work and go to 5-8 new places a day. Don't want to sit with a map trying to figure out where I am going.
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Air Conditioning? If so me too lol
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In many cases the GPS just locks up while driving somewhere. So it requires a reboot to get it going again...not cool at 70 MPH on the highway. The GPS on our phone takes the place of a Garmin or TOM TOM and is a very important feature for most of us when choosing a phone. For people that don't go anywhere unknown to them it is no big deal. I do AC work and go to 5-8 new places a day. Don't want to sit with a map trying to figure out where I am going.
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I have had the same problem and did the reboot thing to get my gps back also - but what I have found that works for me and is better and faster than a reboot, YMMV, is that I turn on airplane mode and than I turn it off and doing so it relocks/finds my gps again - faster than a reboot - and yes, I have done it while I was driving, but hey no worse than dialing a phone number.
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Air Conditioning? If so me too lol
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Yup. AC/Heating plus plumbing and electrical when things are slow. I dunno AC tech in Florida...what was I thinking...LOL.
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Would uaeing the GPS on your phone while on an airplane be illegal? Just to see how fast your going and how high you are?
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Would uaeing the GPS on your phone while on an airplane be illegal? Just to see how fast your going and how high you are?
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does aeroplane mode switch gps off if it does then probably lol
I think it is illegal, your phone is not allowed to sent or receive any signal during flight.
It is not illegal. Many pilots use GPS.
You are not allowed to use any radio TRANSMITTER while in flight. GPS is only a receiver, so no issues there. A radio receiver cannot in any reasonable way affect aircraft avionics. Most airlines insist you switch off ALL electronics devices when taking off or landing. During cruise, GPS is fine.
The issues you will find however is that civilian GPS maxes out at about 500kph, whereas a cruising airliner goes much faster than that.
Ive tested my desire, and GPS works in airplane mode.
Thanks all. I will try out my GPS on the plane
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lol ive always wondered this...dont want a dam air marshall gunning me down for thinking im bringing down a plane or something lol
Do you think you will get a gps fix?
THe plane will be moving very fast... and as I know if it's moving to fast the cpu wont decode your position in time....
Well try it out and see. But I'm not sure if your phone is designed so that the gps would work at that altitude and velocity.
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Which programme do you want to use to keep track of where you are? because you can't use google maps, since you don't have a data connection. And most navigation programmes only work with roads. Plus (don't know how your flight goes) but most don't have maps of oceans.
I tried my (desire)gps on the plane to Greece, reported about 900km/h and alt 11000m. Not that easy getting a fix though.
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have used the app GPS status. showed 11000metres and 950kph. no problems.
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It is not illegal. Many pilots use GPS.
The issues you will find however is that civilian GPS maxes out at about 500kph, whereas a cruising airliner goes much faster than that.
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mine showed over 950kph without issue. the limits according to the web are 60,000ft (18km) altitude and 515metres per second (1000knots) speed. anything outside these ranges and it stops displaying location data. so it will work fine on any civilian flight. by the way, the restriction is to stop gps guidance data being used on a missile if anyone was wondering.
I will use an app called GPS essentials from the market, unless anyone else knows a better app to use?
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GPS on plane, screenshots...
Here are some screenshots of the GPS on the HTC Desire while taking off....
actually i flew just last month and during the flight either british airways or virgin atlantic stated during the safety announcement that gps devices were also forbidden.
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I will use an app called GPS essentials from the market, unless anyone else knows a better app to use?
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http://www.appbrain.com/app/com.theFoneGroup.GPSLogbooks ?!?
I used GPS on former phone (HTC Touch Pro) during flights. The fix is not a problem and everything worked fine. I used IGO8 to track speed and position and it was funny when it warned me that I exceeded the speed limit in towns (doing 780km/h instead of 50km/h ).
No one actually bothered me when I used it.
There's no reason why it should be illegal but airlines and flying in general has become very edgy. So it is usually specifically forbidden and as such you "could" get in real problems if you disregard that rule, I'm not saying you will but you gotta be careful. I've used gps in a plane too, you only get a fix right near a window but it works really well, it was spot on with speed, altitude and location there's no speed maximum that I know of on gps.
So be careful and when confronted immediately comply with the steward(ess) they don't know all devices and don't care for arguments.
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actually i flew just last month and during the flight either british airways or virgin atlantic stated during the safety announcement that gps devices were also forbidden.
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I think its because of the new GPS distrupters that you can buy online now :S
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I have used GPS on the planes in Europe for last 5 years, it makes the journey feel shorter as you can see the progress and also spot cities/mountain ranges in distance.
I found that in some aircrafts notably A320 it is nearly impossibled to get a fix while B737 are generally OK. I would put this down to shielding of the cabin rather than some disruptive technlogy used to protect the flight safety.
Same thing actually applies to trains, Google maps works really well there but there is absolutely a zero fix in some more recent ones.
i havent gone threw every review but any of u guys catch anything in any review?
the epic by far was the best phone ive used but the GPS was down right awful and sprint nor samsung did anything to fix it
XDA fixed it enough to keep me happy. I think people are blowing this gps thing way out of proportion. "If it doesn't work perfectly or, at least as good as other phones then it must be the most awful thing ever!".
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XDA fixed it enough to keep me happy. I think people are blowing this gps thing way out of proportion. "If it doesn't work perfectly or, at least as good as other phones then it must be the most awful thing ever!".
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was never blown out of proportion.....my girls epic who is stock can never get a lock
mine who was rooted would get signal but never better then 40m lock and would lose signal constantly.....try taking an 9 hour drive with it on and see how many times ur signal is lost
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was never blown out of proportion.....my girls epic who is stock can never get a lock
mine who was rooted would get signal but never better then 40m lock and would lose signal constantly.....try taking an 9 hour drive with it on and see how many times ur signal is lost
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I certainly remember that a lot of people had trouble, but I never did. Mine always locked perfectly and quickly and never gave me trouble on drives short and long.
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was never blown out of proportion.....my girls epic who is stock can never get a lock
mine who was rooted would get signal but never better then 40m lock and would lose signal constantly.....try taking an 9 hour drive with it on and see how many times ur signal is lost
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I never understood the gps deal. It seemed so sporadic. Mine always worked and I am stock. I used it last weekend on EH17 to drive 5 hours to saint louis and it was perfect the entire way there and back. Didn't cut out once. But you see some people worth working gps and others without it.
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I have to agree on the gps sucking. On any drive over an hour I could expect to loose lock. I'd imagine if we looked in some of the other GSII forums we might get a clue.
the only thing i ever loved more about my evo then the epic was the gps....htc never gave me gps issues ever
when i had the bionic or droid x they both locked on quick
Backing up the GPS being just short of useless. Remember, just because YOU haven't experienced the problem doesn't prove there isn't one. On Eclair I had very little trouble, but on FroYo I would constantly lose signal mid-trip, having to frequently turn it off and back on to re-lock and hope I wouldn't lose it right when I was in the middle of complex turns or had missed a turn and needed re-routing. In the Gingerbread leaks it turned to completely useless, locking up 100% after as little as 10 seconds of use, requiring a full restart of the phone to be useful again.
So yes, the Epic's biggest flaw was its next-to-useless GPS, hands down. That said, most reviews of the entire Galaxy S line agreed the GPS was bad on all versions. So far I've heard nothing of the sort about the Galaxy S II phones in Europe which suggests the entire line will be similar, including our new Epic 4G Touches.
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was never blown out of proportion.....my girls epic who is stock can never get a lock
mine who was rooted would get signal but never better then 40m lock and would lose signal constantly.....try taking an 9 hour drive with it on and see how many times ur signal is lost
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If you couldn't fix it then that wasn't the norm. I would have returned it to Sprint and got a different one within the first 30 days.
9 hour drives? No problem. Longest I've been on was 6 but the GPS didn't have any problems. The battery on the other hand...
got mine yesterday, used GPS with google nav and telenav. drove for about an hour in farm country Ohio. GPS took a few seconds longer to lock than my EVo but once locked didn't drop signal. Still a little early to tell but no obvious problems yet.
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Backing up the GPS being just short of useless. Remember, just because YOU haven't experienced the problem doesn't prove there isn't one. On Eclair I had very little trouble, but on FroYo I would constantly lose signal mid-trip, having to frequently turn it off and back on to re-lock and hope I wouldn't lose it right when I was in the middle of complex turns or had missed a turn and needed re-routing. In the Gingerbread leaks it turned to completely useless, locking up 100% after as little as 10 seconds of use, requiring a full restart of the phone to be useful again.
So yes, the Epic's biggest flaw was its next-to-useless GPS, hands down. That said, most reviews of the entire Galaxy S line agreed the GPS was bad on all versions. So far I've heard nothing of the sort about the Galaxy S II phones in Europe which suggests the entire line will be similar, including our new Epic 4G Touches.
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Since I don't know who you were responding to I will assume it was me. You know that goes both ways right. Just because YOU have experienced the problem doesn't prove there is one. I have used every official build and every gingerbread leak except EE03 and I have never had a single problem. I use GPS frequently. I have never had a lockup. I have always had an instant lock. And I have always been able to get within 10 meters with the average being 3 meters. However, I never said there wasn't a problem. I just said I never understood the issue as to why it worked for some and not others. You would think that it would be global if the hardware is identical. Makes me wonder if it has anything to do with location in respect to the satellites. Never tried to dig into it because fortunately I didn't have the issue. But I do hope that the touch is without issues because not having gps would be a deal breaker for me.
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Since I don't know who you were responding to I will assume it was me. You know that goes both ways right. Just because YOU have experienced the problem doesn't prove there is one. I have used every official build and every gingerbread leak except EE03 and I have never had a single problem. I use GPS frequently. I have never had a lockup. I have always had an instant lock. And I have always been able to get within 10 meters with the average being 3 meters. However, I never said there wasn't a problem. I just said I never understood the issue as to why it worked for some and not others. You would think that it would be global if the hardware is identical. Makes me wonder if it has anything to do with location in respect to the satellites. Never tried to dig into it because fortunately I didn't have the issue. But I do hope that the touch is without issues because not having gps would be a deal breaker for me.
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Just because he experienced the problem means that a problem exists. Whether it's a wide spread problem or a unique incident, the problem still exists. On the Epic forums people are constantly complaining about GPS issues. There are few fortunate ones like you who haven't had the same issues. I didn't have GPS issues for a while until my job had me drive long distances.
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Just because he experienced the problem means that a problem exists. Whether it's a wide spread problem or a unique incident, the problem still exists. On the Epic forums people are constantly complaining about GPS issues. There are few fortunate ones like you who haven't had the same issues. I didn't have GPS issues for a while until my job had me drive long distances.
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So if you brick your phone because of something you did is the phone bad. Is there a flaw in the phone? No. And again, I never said there wasn't a problem. Actually I said that there was a problem for some and not for others. The only point I was making is that I didn't understand why it worked for some and not others. I wish we could have found the root cause.
Generally speaking GPS on the galaxy S line sucked world wide. Generally speaking it appears that samsung fix this in the galaxy s II.
This is based on reading numerous reviews on both; though it is always possible they messed up on the epic touch as it is slightly different and has wimax; I'm expecting it to work like a charm.
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I do wonder how many folks who tested gps on the galaxy s remember to ignore wifi triangulation when voicing a comment.
Forgot about this thread and started another a bit further down. I managed to sneak GPS status onto our demo phone yesterday and it locked to 9/10 sats in less than 2 seconds from inside. Accuracy was only at 30m when I cut it off, but it was indoors in a spot where my epic cannot lock at all. Pretty sure it's fixed.
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The only point I was making is that I didn't understand why it worked for some and not others. I wish we could have found the root cause.
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I did spend a fair amount of time investigating the GPS issues on EC05. There are at least two problems: (i) GpsOne Xtra data that fails to download and update, eventually resulting in stale ephemeris and inability to get timely locks, and (ii) a RIL synchronization bug that results in the GPS crashing with 5% probability on every exit/switch of a GPS utilizing app.
The latter of those two problem is definitely confirmed and affects every EC05 Epic. However, if you only use Navigation once a day, you'll run into that bug an average once a month and might not even notice it. But it is possible to reliably reproduce.
The former of the two problems I never fully understood. The GPS should work as long as you reboot once a week, but we know folks whose phones chronically couldn't download new Xtra data on reboot, likely becuase it was attempting to do so "too quickly" after establishing a network connection. Forcing an Xtra download through GPS Test, GPS Aids, or with a patched framework resolved the issue for most of those folks. The remaining issue is that the ephemeris would still go stale very quickly (hours) on some phones, and an EFS/NVRAM clear appears to help that.
Part of the issue is that the "brokenness" of the GPS is somewhat subjective. It's entirey possible for the GPS to absolutely not be able to get an Xtra-assisted lock, but using almanac data still get one in 30-60s in a vehicle. For some folks, that might be "good enough" and wouldn't think there's much of a problem.
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Just because he experienced the problem means that a problem exists. Whether it's a wide spread problem or a unique incident, the problem still exists. On the Epic forums people are constantly complaining about GPS issues. There are few fortunate ones like you who haven't had the same issues. I didn't have GPS issues for a while until my job had me drive long distances.
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I think the opposite of what your saying is true. This problem isn't as wide spread as it seems. The few who have this problem are very loud about it and complain about it over the forums. Though I seriously doubt that they are the majority.
If fixing your gps doesn't work then you can always set it back to stock and take it in for repair. If they can't repair and you don't have insurance then you can pay a small fee for a epic with a working gps. I doubt anyone is forcing people to live with a phone that the gps doesn't work on.
Considering that it has a dedicated GPS chip "SiRFstarIV GSD4t GPS" I doubt that we are going to see the same issues.
The integrated GPS on the SoC stinks, and samsung knows that. Using the SiRFstarIV will solve 99% of peoples GPS problems.
engadget claims it is solid. fwiw. http://www.engadget.com/2011/09/15/samsung-epic-4g-touch-review/
Our calls were absolutely solid. The phone's reception is on par with the best handsets around, and we never suffered from dropped calls or degraded quality. Our calls came in absolutely clear, and we think the speakers go to 11 because we had to actually turn down the volume to comfortably hear the other end of the line. The same thing could be said about the loudspeaker for calls and music, which both came out loud and clear without needing to strain our ears or feeling like we needed to break out the headphones. However, the sound seemed a bit limited when watching a full-length blockbuster movie, though we believe this had to do with the quality of the movie itself and not the phone.Last but not least, we double-checked the GPS to make sure it wouldn't have similar concerns to the Galaxy S series, and weren' t disappointed. In several locations -- including a basement next to a window -- the GPS pulled up our location in less than ten seconds. Needless to say, this is definitely a sound improvement, one we imagine had special attention given to it throughout the course of the phone's development.
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So, for the most part, this phone has done a pretty good job with GPS locks so far. Besides the fact that my accuracy when using Goog Navigation is constantly fluctuating with the ominous blue circle around the car, I have been pleased. Today, though, google maps showed me several hundred miles north of my actual position. I toggled GPS, closed goog maps, and reopened...and same issue. I downloaded GPS toolbox, wiped a-gps cache, restarted goog maps, and the issue was resolved. Fast lock, correct location...however, this DOES give me some cause for concern. Anyone else seem anything similar?
Keep in mind, for the most part, I have been reasonably pleased with the locks. I have only seen this bad of an issue once
I haven't used it that much but on pleased as well. I use to use an apo called gps aids for my original epic. Sorry can't help more but I've only used gps once to make sure I got a lock. See if that apps helps u though.
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This is google maps not the actual phone. Use sprint Telenav and it will lock instantly even while driving at 80 MPH, just did this yesterday!
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I was able to resolve it through GPS Toolbox...but, hopefully this isn't a persistent issue. My EVO 4G was always good for a quick reliable lock
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This is google maps not the actual phone. Use sprint Telenav and it will lock instantly even while driving at 80 MPH, just did this yesterday!
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right, well, to be clear, I have used Google maps at least 10 times already without issue.
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I was able to resolve it through GPS Toolbox...but, hopefully this isn't a persistent issue. My EVO 4G was always good for a quick reliable lock
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Yeah my wife's evo's gps is definitely better. Her gps local instantly. I've compared them using gps status.
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right, well, to be clear, I have used Google maps at least 10 times already without issue.
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I had the same issue is what I was getting at. It only happened 2 days ago, but my Wife has the evo3d so I tried to get gps to work on hers and it was a no go. So I turned on telenav and it worked instantly on both our phones.. not sure what was going on with google maps but we were in the middle of the street with clear skies and it would not lock at all...
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I had the same issue is what I was getting at. It only happened 2 days ago, but my Wife has the evo3d so I tried to get gps to work on hers and it was a no go. So I turned on telenav and it worked instantly on both our phones.. not sure what was going on with google maps but we were in the middle of the street with clear skies and it would not lock at all...
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lol, I think I erased that app as soon as I got the phone. Wonder how to re-download?
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lol, I think I erased that app as soon as I got the phone. Wonder how to re-download?
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It's in the market...
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It's in the market...
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thanks, should have mentioned that I have no phone access while at work. Will check it out later
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It's in the market...
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It also requires a subscription fee after the trial period. No thanks. My Google Nav works just fine.
Not to contradict but telnav basic software is free and does not need a monthly fee. The fee is only for the optional premium purchase which includes lane assist, red light cameras, speed traps, posted speed limits, and commute alerts. None of the premium features I need or want anyway, so the basic free software works for me.
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It also requires a subscription fee after the trial period. No thanks. My Google Nav works just fine.
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What fee it is free.....
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What fee it is free.....
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Yes its free. There is an optional paid version.
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I had an issue with my gps not wanting to get a lock all day a couple days ago. I downloaded gps test cleared agps and updated it, and still wouldn't work correctly. Then all of a sudden it did work, right before I was going to do a battery pull. I'm not sure what happened.
Today I was navigating somewhere by downtown chicago and my gps all of a sudden started acting goofy and kept rerouting me. I had to take a couple different turns because I was relying on it. I kept testing the gps on my way back home, and noticed that it was off by about one city block, but the big problem was my pointer was off 90 degrees, and that is what created my rerouting confusion. 2 hours later, it seems like its good again.
I'm concerned about this, because when I did need it such as today, it started spazzing out on me. Is there a way to calibrate the compass?
Oh and I cleared agps and updated it again with the gps test, and I think that's what fixed it.
TurboTsi said:
I had an issue with my gps not wanting to get a lock all day a couple days ago. I downloaded gps test cleared agps and updated it, and still wouldn't work correctly. Then all of a sudden it did work, right before I was going to do a battery pull. I'm not sure what happened.
Today I was navigating somewhere by downtown chicago and my gps all of a sudden started acting goofy and kept rerouting me. I had to take a couple different turns because I was relying on it. I kept testing the gps on my way back home, and noticed that it was off by about one city block, but the big problem was my pointer was off 90 degrees, and that is what created my rerouting confusion. 2 hours later, it seems like its good again.
I'm concerned about this, because when I did need it such as today, it started spazzing out on me. Is there a way to calibrate the compass?
Oh and I cleared agps and updated it again with the gps test, and I think that's what fixed it.
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This is exactly what I saw. It had me in the wrong place and since the heading was wrong, it looked like I was driving offroad in between major roads!
I had another major GPS issue today. It would never get a lock. I toggled GPS on and off, wiped AGPS cache, and nothing. Not for over 10 minutes. I power cycled the phone and this fixed it. I am getting a little concerned...
I haven't been having issues with the GPS really. I have had stronger locks with other phones but this one gets the job done. As for GPS getting crazy, if your in an area like a metro city with tall buildings then any GPS will go crazy. When I drive in Manhattan even my stand alone GPS goes a little crazy in certain areas.
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Bigjim1488 said:
I haven't been having issues with the GPS really. I have had stronger locks with other phones but this one gets the job done. As for GPS getting crazy, if your in an area like a metro city with tall buildings then any GPS will go crazy. When I drive in Manhattan even my stand alone GPS goes a little crazy in certain areas.
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This is happening to me on I-95 with no trees or buildings around
My gps is acting up again, since yesterday. With the gps test app, it is not locating any satellites, I'm not sure what to do, I still don't think it's a hardware issue though...but I'm not sure
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I'm hoping for a clear honest assessment of the reliability of the signal and GPS on the E4GT. I use CoPilot a TON for navigation and absolutely need the GPS to get a reasonably fast lock and be both fast (in terms of true-to-location while moving) and accurate. I also need the phone to not be dropping calls (I left AT&T for this very reason).
The reason for my post is simple - I've done a ton of reading threads both here and other sites and at this point am a bit worried that my planned purchase of the dreamy SII may have a few flaws. I've read post-after-post about signal loss issues as well as posts about very unreliable GPS qualities. But many of these posts appear to have been from the September-to-December timeframe and potentially were fixed or were older hardware versions.
SOoooo... I'm hoping a few of you real-life current owners can quell the fear - I so covet that gorgeous screen and dual-core processor. But the fact of the matter is that my Evo 4G gets near instantaneous GPS lock and pretty much never drops a call. I don't want to buy the E4GT and end up hating it for the 2 features I need most.
Thank you all in advance for your time -
I came from an evo as well and the call quality isn't an issue but the GPS is non existent on the phone. To be fair some time it locks with a few minutes some times it won't get a lock for 30 minutes even when I use GPS tool box to clear data and download the agps assistance. I'm in So Cal, in the high desert where we only have 2 story buildings and a pretty clear view of the sky.
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Rats... bad GPS is a deal-breaker for me Maybe you're alone and I'll get nothing but rave reviews, right? Right?
I use GPS 4 to 5 times a day. You just need to turn GPS on. Then reboot. It sometimes takes a few minutes but always locks and always gets me where I want to go. Miner glitch in otherwise perfect phone
best gps for getting to a known address
Never had a dropped call yet. Use the gps multiple times a day and takes 1-20s to lock on, usually if it takes longer than that then something is wrong with the address. One notable problem is when using Google Navigate to search for say a McDonalds,it might give an address only relatively close and you'll need to look up the real address manually and have it go to that one instead. Also remember all phones are build a little different too so result can be way different.
The turn on-reboot-wait method on the GPS is straight up a deal breaker for me. With my "OG" Evo, I turn on GPS, and by the time CoPilot is loaded (typically about 10 seconds) the GPS is locked and ready to rock. With a newer and significantly more expensive phone, I refuse to be taking steps backward. I so badly wanted this phone but I think I'll have to wait... Or try the 3D.
Again - thanks all for your input -
mybikegoes200 said:
I so badly wanted this phone but I think I'll have to wait... Or try the 3D.
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This is one of those areas that really has no definitive answer. Luckily my GPS seems to work fine with pretty instant lock (knock on wood). I've seen reports of others that can't get locks unless they stand on their heads and rub their bellys, lol.
The best advice I can give is to actually get the phone and try it... if it doesn't work you have 14 days to return it and go with another one.
I have only seen problems with my GPS using google maps but if i use telenav or just Nav which also came on my phone its comes up w/i 5-10 seconds. Signal is good but not bad, i had the EVO 3d which was horrible, moto photon was excellent but i would put this signal right in the middle of them at "OK". I havent dropped very many calls but i do travel in rural areas so i cant down grade the signal for dead spots from Sprint
I have never really experienced GPS issues... I have only had one time where it took it about a minute to lock and route address.
I'd say bite the bullet and go for it. Seems like many who don't get good GPS trade their phones in for another and then they get good GPS. Seems like a quality control issue with samsung and GPS. You could always trade yours in if it's no good.
For me, my GPS locks take a while, unless I use GPS Status first, which locks consistently in < 10 sec.
If you decide to take the plunge and your ET4G has crap GPS, have them exchange it. I have a YouTube video that shows my first copy (which was aweful) and my second copy that to this day is fantastic.
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I appreciate all the input. Maybe I've been spoiled by the GPS quality on the OG Evo - which pretty much never takes longer than 10 seconds to lock. I don't have to do any silly reboots or gps status or clearing this or that... I turn on GPS, click the link for CoPilot - and by the time CoPilot loads gps has a lock. I've talked to enough people both online and locally to have the heebie jeebies about the E4GT.
Soooo... Right or wrong, what I decided to do is buy an Evo 3D on Craigslist to try that and hopefully either wait for a consistently good report on E4GT or a different phone with a more reliable GPS. That way I can still upgrade via contract if and when that time comes.
Again I thank you all for your input -
I never had a problem with gps on the et4g. It works perfect. When I saw buddy got gps working on cm7 I couldn't believe it bc it never worked for me when I had the evo...
I believe this device had better gps quality..
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i really dont like the stock navigation app because it gets my phone hotter than anything else, even more than when im in recovery. anyone using a different app that doesnt heat up so much? thanks!
Navfree is pretty awesome and doesn't require data. Pretty handy if you are out in the country with no service. It also was great in Mexico. Plus, it is free.
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Yeah, Navfree is not bad. I use it a few times with my tablet just for fun. Although the address entry system is not great (think old school GPS, where you select the state, city, street name, then enter the street number). The fact that you store the map on your phone should help with temperature (phone not constantly downloading new map data).
Thanks for the reply's but I thought back to my old blackberry and got telenav. I like the interface and hopefully the heat issue dissipates
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I don't really see how you could get any better than the stock navigation app. As for your heat "issue", that is because while using navigation you have a constant GPS lock, constantly downloading new data, and your CPU is likely pegged pretty high trying to keep up with all the data. That's just how navigation works. Both of those things will increase the temp, happened on every smartphone I've had. Being charged while doing all that will increase the temp even more.
It could help some if you downloaded a map to your phone, by using the download for offline use feature. I have done that for a massive area around where I live and should never really have to download new data unless I decide to take a trip.
ncfastls1 said:
It could help some if you downloaded a map to your phone, by using the download for offline use feature. I have done that for a massive area around where I live and should never really have to download new data unless I decide to take a trip.
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I 2nd this...GPS is always a phone-killer. Like the others, this is my 4th phone & they all burn up. My DroidX wasn't able to be held after...
i used telenav it didnt even heat up my phone to 1/2 of the temp of the stock nav so im gonna stick with it
I like stock
I use waze
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Copilot GPS!
ncfastls1 said:
It could help some if you downloaded a map to your phone, by using the download for offline use feature. I have done that for a massive area around where I live and should never really have to download new data unless I decide to take a trip.
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I would like to know how to use the download fort office use feature. I can't seem to find that option. I guess I'm not really sure what the stock nav app is though. I have one with the blue arrow for an icon.
javskies said:
i used telenav it didnt even heat up my phone to 1/2 of the temp of the stock nav so im gonna stick with it
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i use telenav and it heats up my phone like no other, especially when i use it for and hour and a half
arpman said:
i use telenav and it heats up my phone like no other, especially when i use it for and hour and a half
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really? i havent had it heat up yet, not even on my three hour drive north.
I use Scout it works pretty good
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Best GPS app is Garmin Navigon. Hands down. Pricey but worth it.
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I just started using Waze, Google was smart to buy this company although a billion dollars seems pretty high.