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For those with concerns about getting a Galaxy Nexus

Well, i took the plunge today, and went out and got one sim free. I had concerns that the gps would be a bit naff, and that there may be screen defects, or sluggishness and all the other commonly complained about things on here. However, in reality, non of these things were evident. It just goes to show that sometimes you can read too much and put yourself off buying a device on these fora. Which I nearly did. So, i'm really pleased with mine, screen is just great, gps is very good, not noticed a great deal of lag, just little hiccups here or there maybe, but that's it. Certainly nothing more than i got from my iphone 4 when it's ram was a bit pushed. So, if you think you might be put off, don't be, it's just great

+1 i have the same experience with my VZW GN. A hickup here and there, the AMOLED screen has the linen appearance with whites on low brightness, but overall I'm happy with it.
My colleague's did burn through a lot of battery this morning, but I just unlocked and rooted it for him so we will see if this was something he installed.

+1 excellent device
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I disagree with the OP.
My Nexus while at first seemed great actually has a few issues that are making me second guess my decision to return my Razr.
1. When switching from Wifi to 3g/4g my data stops working. I have to switch to airplane mode then back to restore it.
2. The speaker phone is aweful. While in the car its completley useless. I spend half of my conversation repeating myself becuase the other person can't hear me. I did a comparison with my wife Incredible and it was night and day.
3. When typing on the keyboard I notice that they keys being registered are not the keys I am pressing. Not all the time but on average its worse than the razr. The upside of this is that the autocorrection of ICS fixes the mistakes so its a wash in the end but still annoying.
4. MTP file transfer fail often when transfering files. I ended up using a wifi ftp server to get my titanium backup files.
5. Audio breaks up when trying to stream over bluetooth. Worked flawlessly on my Razr.
The last two are not so much bugs as design limitations.
6. No SD slot...I mean really... why can't nexus phones have sd cards.
7. No voice search button with the rest of the "buttons"

This is kinda what i meant, these problems seem to be device specific. Generally, they are ok, but as was the case with the sgs2, the early batches seemed dubious and the software was full of bugs. If you are lucky tho, (as the majority will be). All will be fine.

Forgot about the bluetooth audio streaming issues. Updated my post with that as well.

So far I've had no problems with Bluetooth audio either. Although I have not tested it extensively. Only tried it out to check it.

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Forgot about the bluetooth audio streaming issues. Updated my post with that as well.
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Ooooh Please can you elaborate on this. BT/A2DP Streaming is essential for me.

Seems like ICS gets faster as you use it more. Also, most apps are not totally designed for ICS; Yet.

I would say I am more likely to share a bad experience post on the internet than a good one. I am sure there are a lot of people who are happy with their device that just don't feel the need to say so online.
I agree with the OP. You should always give something a go and if it don't work out there is usually a warranty.
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I agree with the OP, most of my fears about the phone have not come to life. No problems with the signal, although if there is a fix, I hope that it will help when I am at work. zero ****ing bars..why is every place I work at built like a bomb shelter with no signals coming thru???
i have faith someone will make a bigger battery for this thing...

cenwesi said:
Ooooh Please can you elaborate on this. BT/A2DP Streaming is essential for me.
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I tried streaming spotify over the bluetooth audio link in my Ford Sync and the audio stream kept breaking up as if the phone was really far away or something. I had seen this before with my Incredible when it first came out but a reboot usually fixed it. I rebooted the nexus and the problem remained.

I also agree with OP, this phone has been perfect before. I was espeically surprised with the GPS lock i was getting. with my Charge i had to go outside and stand still for like 30 seconds to a minute to get it to lock on, the Nexus locked on almost instantly sitting in my chair inside my house...

Clearly all of these issues are luck of the draw. My phone has had no such issues. I suppose some phones having these issues and others not might indicate lesser build quality, but even iPhones have hit and miss problems like this.
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Signal & GPS Reliability

All -
I'm hoping for a clear honest assessment of the reliability of the signal and GPS on the E4GT. I use CoPilot a TON for navigation and absolutely need the GPS to get a reasonably fast lock and be both fast (in terms of true-to-location while moving) and accurate. I also need the phone to not be dropping calls (I left AT&T for this very reason).
The reason for my post is simple - I've done a ton of reading threads both here and other sites and at this point am a bit worried that my planned purchase of the dreamy SII may have a few flaws. I've read post-after-post about signal loss issues as well as posts about very unreliable GPS qualities. But many of these posts appear to have been from the September-to-December timeframe and potentially were fixed or were older hardware versions.
SOoooo... I'm hoping a few of you real-life current owners can quell the fear - I so covet that gorgeous screen and dual-core processor. But the fact of the matter is that my Evo 4G gets near instantaneous GPS lock and pretty much never drops a call. I don't want to buy the E4GT and end up hating it for the 2 features I need most.
Thank you all in advance for your time -

I came from an evo as well and the call quality isn't an issue but the GPS is non existent on the phone. To be fair some time it locks with a few minutes some times it won't get a lock for 30 minutes even when I use GPS tool box to clear data and download the agps assistance. I'm in So Cal, in the high desert where we only have 2 story buildings and a pretty clear view of the sky.
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Rats... bad GPS is a deal-breaker for me Maybe you're alone and I'll get nothing but rave reviews, right? Right?

I use GPS 4 to 5 times a day. You just need to turn GPS on. Then reboot. It sometimes takes a few minutes but always locks and always gets me where I want to go. Miner glitch in otherwise perfect phone

best gps for getting to a known address
Never had a dropped call yet. Use the gps multiple times a day and takes 1-20s to lock on, usually if it takes longer than that then something is wrong with the address. One notable problem is when using Google Navigate to search for say a McDonalds,it might give an address only relatively close and you'll need to look up the real address manually and have it go to that one instead. Also remember all phones are build a little different too so result can be way different.

The turn on-reboot-wait method on the GPS is straight up a deal breaker for me. With my "OG" Evo, I turn on GPS, and by the time CoPilot is loaded (typically about 10 seconds) the GPS is locked and ready to rock. With a newer and significantly more expensive phone, I refuse to be taking steps backward. I so badly wanted this phone but I think I'll have to wait... Or try the 3D.
Again - thanks all for your input -

mybikegoes200 said:
I so badly wanted this phone but I think I'll have to wait... Or try the 3D.
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This is one of those areas that really has no definitive answer. Luckily my GPS seems to work fine with pretty instant lock (knock on wood). I've seen reports of others that can't get locks unless they stand on their heads and rub their bellys, lol.
The best advice I can give is to actually get the phone and try it... if it doesn't work you have 14 days to return it and go with another one.

I have only seen problems with my GPS using google maps but if i use telenav or just Nav which also came on my phone its comes up w/i 5-10 seconds. Signal is good but not bad, i had the EVO 3d which was horrible, moto photon was excellent but i would put this signal right in the middle of them at "OK". I havent dropped very many calls but i do travel in rural areas so i cant down grade the signal for dead spots from Sprint

I have never really experienced GPS issues... I have only had one time where it took it about a minute to lock and route address.

I'd say bite the bullet and go for it. Seems like many who don't get good GPS trade their phones in for another and then they get good GPS. Seems like a quality control issue with samsung and GPS. You could always trade yours in if it's no good.
For me, my GPS locks take a while, unless I use GPS Status first, which locks consistently in < 10 sec.

If you decide to take the plunge and your ET4G has crap GPS, have them exchange it. I have a YouTube video that shows my first copy (which was aweful) and my second copy that to this day is fantastic.
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I appreciate all the input. Maybe I've been spoiled by the GPS quality on the OG Evo - which pretty much never takes longer than 10 seconds to lock. I don't have to do any silly reboots or gps status or clearing this or that... I turn on GPS, click the link for CoPilot - and by the time CoPilot loads gps has a lock. I've talked to enough people both online and locally to have the heebie jeebies about the E4GT.
Soooo... Right or wrong, what I decided to do is buy an Evo 3D on Craigslist to try that and hopefully either wait for a consistently good report on E4GT or a different phone with a more reliable GPS. That way I can still upgrade via contract if and when that time comes.
Again I thank you all for your input -

I never had a problem with gps on the et4g. It works perfect. When I saw buddy got gps working on cm7 I couldn't believe it bc it never worked for me when I had the evo...
I believe this device had better gps quality..
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LTE Gnex Radio Problems? Try This

Background
This is by no means definitive, so don't everyone go get your panties in a wad and pitch fits like 12 year olds.
So several days ago I noticed that my GNex was starting to have issues with dropping calls and data connections. Basically, I was dropping data and voice despite having a connection to the network about every 2-5 hours, requiring a reboot. This happened over a 3 day period in a stationary position, in radically different places (like 80-150 miles apart). It was happening on 3G and on 4G so I was pretty confident that it wasn't just a localized outage or the local tower acting up. I'm no expert and certainly no /dev, but I've been around some Android devices a time or two.
I'm a big proponent that 95% of problems with an Android device are user error. That doesn't mean you're holding it wrong or that you're stupid, merely that something the user has installed or set is affecting something else, that affected something else. As an example, shortly after getting my GNex I installed TweetDeck. I had used Navigation several times to test GPS (first thing I did being a SGS owner) so I knew it worked and worked well. Anyway, immediately after installing and setting up TweetDeck, my GPS crapped. It would see satellites but not connect... even after 30 minutes....even after rebooting, clearing AGPS data, blah blah. Being objective, I decided to freeze TweetDeck with TB. As soon as I did, GPS returned. As soon as I unfroze it, GPS failed. I uninstalled TweetDeck and reinstalled from the Market, and had no more issues.
Solution (For me at least)
With that event in mind, and a crapped out radio, I went looking through my app drawer for apps that access the radio. I picked out Network Info II 0.6.0, Real Signal 3.5 and Network Signal Info 1.51. I rebooted and waited. Here it is three days later, and I have yet to have a single voice or data drop. If I've had one on the data side, I haven't noticed and it certainly wasn't for long.
I don't know how or why. All I know is that I've never had any form of radio trouble and those apps were recently installed, and that without them, the radio issues are gone. Take it for what it's worth, which probably isn't much. But if you're on 4.0.4, with 4.0.4 radios and you're suffering from radio problems, flip through your app drawer and remove or freeze applications that have the sole purpose of polling data from your radios. Who knows, maybe having 3 was 1 or 2 to many.

Thanks for the write up. And I really think the issue with certain apps interfering with OS-level stuff is a big issue, and one that nobody seems to want to notice.
There are a ton of posts, not only on this forum but on others, where people are saying they have so many issues with the Nexus and this and that. What a lot of people don't realize is that, yes, certain apps that are either poorly coded in general or not coded for ICS can potentially interfere with the normal operations of your phone.
A lot of people tend to use/stick with apps that they are used to, right? I came from the G1, the very first Android phone, so I've been using Android for awhile, and I bet that other people are too. Some apps are a staple of people's usage, meaning as soon as they get a new device, those same apps are the first to be downloaded and installed. However a lot of times those apps are abandoned by their developers, never to be touched again.
So of course an app that was coded on Froyo or even Eclair that calls the GPS or the radio or bluetooth stack or something else hardware related can potentially cause issues, especially with ICS being such a radical change from Gingerbread.

Question for OP. When you lost your data after 5 hours or so, was your 4G or 3G signal still showing as well as the data bars still moving like they are active but technically your data is not connected at all?
Was it apps you added that you froze or system stype apps? How did you see what accesed the radio?

[email protected] said:
Question for OP. When you lost your data after 5 hours or so, was your 4G or 3G signal still showing as well as the data bars still moving like they are active but technically your data is not connected at all?
Was it apps you added that you froze or system stype apps? How did you see what accesed the radio?
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Yes. It was doing the typical thing you read about where people will have gray bars, 4G/3G showing, "Verizon Wireless" on the lock screen but no connection to anything at all.
The applications I froze are all 3rd party market apps. Check out the permissions for Network Info II as an example. My not so scientific hypothesis wonders if too many apps that can read "Network State" and "Phone State" going at once is too many. Again, not really based on anything at all, but I wouldn't be surprised to learn that multiple apps or a poorly coded app constantly requesting Network/Phone State could throw radios into a tailspin and cause those radio crashes that we see from logcats.
And as a disclaimer, I'm not knocking those applications or saying that there's anything wrong with them. I make this post primarily to encourage people with the issue to think logically about the apps they have installed and experiment with removing some out of the equation. Going back to what I said eariler, 99% of people that install TweetDeck on their GNex probably don't have GPS issues because of it, ever. I did until uninstalling and reinstalling and haven't had issues since.
I see this as possibly being no different, at least in regards to a 4.0.4 Bootloader, OS and Radio Package.

Food for thought: Apps have not been updated to work 100% with ICS?

KWKSLVR said:
Yes. It was doing the typical thing you read about where people will have gray bars, 4G/3G showing, "Verizon Wireless" on the lock screen but no connection to anything at all.
The applications I froze are all 3rd party market apps. Check out the permissions for Network Info II as an example. My not so scientific hypothesis wonders if too many apps that can read "Network State" and "Phone State" going at once is too many. Again, not really based on anything at all, but I wouldn't be surprised to learn that multiple apps or a poorly coded app constantly requesting Network/Phone State could throw radios into a tailspin and cause those radio crashes that we see from logcats.
And as a disclaimer, I'm not knocking those applications or saying that there's anything wrong with them. I make this post primarily to encourage people with the issue to think logically about the apps they have installed and experiment with removing some out of the equation. Going back to what I said eariler, 99% of people that install TweetDeck on their GNex probably don't have GPS issues because of it, ever. I did until uninstalling and reinstalling and haven't had issues since.
I see this as possibly being no different, at least in regards to a 4.0.4 Bootloader, OS and Radio Package.
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Alright, so will that app tell me what is accessing that feature or do I need to go through every app to find out and what exactly shoould t say in the access?
Help me out here please because this is starting to annoy me!

The fastest way to see what apps have what permissions is Menu > Settings > Apps then go through each app and scroll down to permissions. Or you could back up your apps with TB, do a Nandroid then completely wipe the phone and live with it totally untouched (minus your gmail account of course) long enough to see if the problem goes away.
Don't get me wrong, I've never seen an LTE phone that didn't occasionally disconnect for a few seconds. People that say, "OMG my Rezound never did" are either full of it or didn't pay attention. There are plenty of cases of Rezounds, Maxx's and Thunderbolts having brief and random disconnects. But there's a huge difference between that, and losing signal as often as I was and as often as many people here say they do. There's nothing you can do about the former, but hopefully this is something that can be done about the latter. I'm crossing my fingers that it may help and that it's a relatively simple fix because frankly, until I saw it for myself I thought a lot of people were being drama queens. I'm not a whiner, I'm a doer, so I encourage everyone to go do.
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Food for thought: Apps have not been updated to work 100% with ICS?
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There are a TON of apps that haven't been updated. I have a paid app that hasn't been updated that is abandoned and still on the market. Works fantastic except on ICS.

I've thankfully been free of radio issues thus far on my GNex, but I want to thank you for this thread.
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I'm a big proponent that 95% of problems with an Android device are user error. That doesn't mean you're holding it wrong or that you're stupid, merely that something the user has installed or set is affecting something else, that affected something else.
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Being objective, I decided to freeze TweetDeck with TB. As soon as I did, GPS returned. As soon as I unfroze it, GPS failed. I uninstalled TweetDeck and reinstalled from the Market, and had no more issues.
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I make this post primarily to encourage people with the issue to think logically about the apps they have installed and experiment with removing some out of the equation.
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Not to jump up on too high of a soapbox, but I couldn't agree with you more.
It's very satisfying to read about people methodically, empirically testing. It's something that seems rare these days.
So thank you!

KWKSLVR said:
The fastest way to see what apps have what permissions is Menu > Settings > Apps then go through each app and scroll down to permissions. Or you could back up your apps with TB, do a Nandroid then completely wipe the phone and live with it totally untouched (minus your gmail account of course) long enough to see if the problem goes away.
Don't get me wrong, I've never seen an LTE phone that didn't occasionally disconnect for a few seconds. People that say, "OMG my Rezound never did" are either full of it or didn't pay attention. There are plenty of cases of Rezounds, Maxx's and Thunderbolts having brief and random disconnects. But there's a huge difference between that, and losing signal as often as I was and as often as many people here say they do. There's nothing you can do about the former, but hopefully this is something that can be done about the latter. I'm crossing my fingers that it may help and that it's a relatively simple fix because frankly, until I saw it for myself I thought a lot of people were being drama queens. I'm not a whiner, I'm a doer, so I encourage everyone to go do.
There are a TON of apps that haven't been updated. I have a paid app that hasn't been updated that is abandoned and still on the market. Works fantastic except on ICS.
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My signal does not go in and out but randomly after hours it might lose data. By looking at it you would never know because everything looks fine but behind the scenes data is not working.
So what we are looking for in permissions is what you listed in the 1st post and that is what will be listed?
I thought it might have been me running in tablet mode so I just switched back to phone mode. Would like to see if it is actually caused by what you say.

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My signal does not go in and out but randomly after hours it might lose data. By looking at it you would never know because everything looks fine but behind the scenes data is not working.
So what we are looking for in permissions is what you listed in the 1st post and that is what will be listed?
I thought it might have been me running in tablet mode so I just switched back to phone mode. Would like to see if it is actually caused by what you say.
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When I froze those apps, I picked them because I knew they had access to:
Network communication > view network state > Allows an application to view the state of all networks. The part in bold is the description of what the permission "View Network State" means. That permission is under the "Network Communication" Category. Some apps will have more than that single permission under Network communication, some with have none at all. "Real Signal" has the fewest permissions out of the three I froze, and maybe all three don't HAVE to be frozen, but I haven't tested that yet.

Another random thought. During that time period, I also had a BUNCH of random reboots.

Maybe on other devices 95% user error might be closer.
But, not on my Gnex! What if you bought a completely new phone and have not installed any apps. The first time you open up the stock browser and use it for 5 mins or so on 4G LTE next to the cell tower -75 db stationary and still lose connection of both data and voice with "the triangle of death" on 2 separate GNex with 2 new SIM cards? Is this a bad batch? To me, "bad batch" is when we say 1/100 is a faulty device but this is almost reversed with GNex. We should exchange devices until we find a "good batch"
All I am saying is we all should be a little more compassionate for people like me. A lot of problems are made by users, sure. But it sure isn't 95%....It's more like samsung/google/vzw 60% in this case..
I hope I shed a little light on all the users that did not create user errors yet still have radio problems and VZW keep telling us to wait because issues are going to be addressed with the supposed firmware update that should have come in Feb, now March. Now...I don't know when.
Thank you for your post though, you rock

With anything, even product reviews, the people that have issues always make up the vocal majority. No one talks about how things work the way they should.
If my phone truly dropped 4G as often as it did when I had this application conflict, I'd be in the Verizon store every day until I either had a replacement or got banished from the store. If Verizon told me that it was "normal" and to live with it, I'd pay a visit to management at a different Verizon store and pay an online visit to the BBB. If that didn't do any good and I was really REALLY bored and had nothing better to do, I'd probably draw up a letter to Verizon's legal department about the liability Verizon could have when a consumer can't call 911 in the middle of the night because the radio crashed.
I still think it's an incompatibility hiccup with ICS more than necessarily an issue with Verizon's LTE network. I see GSM owners complaining too. And, as I said in the OP, I can only speak for a "stock" 4.0.4 bootloader/modem/radio experience. I've seen posts from people talking about how their problems have disappeared since making the move from 4.0.2 to 4.0.4. All I can speak of from my own experiences is that I've never had a problem from any version of ICS other than what I experience.
Come to think of it, I think I'll defrost all three of those apps and see what happens, especially since the phone in my hotel seems to be in working order.

OK, in the couple of hours since I've defrosted my cocktail of apps I've:
Opened the Facebook app, watched it poll for GPS and lock, then closed the Facebook app only to have GPS stuck on. Once I went into Settings > Apps > Location Services and tried to uncheck "GPS satellites" it rebooted. After rebooting, the phone showed 4G and a connection to Google's servers but I couldn't browse or use any app that is web based (like speed test, gmail, etc). After about 30 minutes of trying, I rebooted again and everything was fine. I have a feeling it's related to Real Signal looking at the plethora of stuff it monitors and that it's starting up on boot.
That's all I personally care to see. Needless to say, they're all frozen again.

I don't think there is a problem with real signal, I only installed it after having these problems to start with.
Since I got my nexus it works randomly drop voice and data. People would call me and get a fast busy signal. I tried many different radios and they all behaved the same. I switch my network to CDMA only and haven't dropped data or voice in two days.
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On 4.0.4?
I don't think it's necessarily just Real Signal. I think it's multiple apps polling data from your radios. After a few more days, I'll go through them one by one. So far in my experiences on my setup, there is something up with the combination of those apps.
Again, there's a solid chance that a combination of other apps could give other people similar issues.
I will say this, even if I had problems before installing those apps, this particular cocktail would only make them worse.

It's not ICM
Hi all - First post here, but have been having nightmares with my wifes Nexus - mine is fine and drops NOTHING - EVER.
Hers on the other hand - we are on our 2nd one and I was informed by Verizon today, that it's been 14 days since they replaced it and I"m stuck with it. I rooted her phone and installed 4.04, which fixed the random reboots she was having, and her signal LOOKED stronger, but she is dropping calls like mad and getting kicked off the network randomly.
Anyway, it does not appear to be a ICM thing - I was reading a review on IT World (I'm not allowed to post links till I've posted 8 times? ) - They are describing THE EXACT SAME THING the Galaxy Nexus is having. So there is a switching problem WITH VERIZON. The Maxx isn't ICM and the phone is a totally different manufacturer (Motorola)
I'm smelling class action lawsuit.

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Hi all - First post here, but have been having nightmares with my wifes Nexus - mine is fine and drops NOTHING - EVER.
Hers on the other hand - we are on our 2nd one and I was informed by Verizon today, that it's been 14 days since they replaced it and I"m stuck with it. I rooted her phone and installed 4.04, which fixed the random reboots she was having, and her signal LOOKED stronger, but she is dropping calls like mad and getting kicked off the network randomly.
Anyway, it does not appear to be a ICM thing - I was reading a review on IT World (I'm not allowed to post links till I've posted 8 times? ) - They are describing THE EXACT SAME THING the Galaxy Nexus is having. So there is a switching problem WITH VERIZON. The Maxx isn't ICM and the phone is a totally different manufacturer (Motorola)
I'm smelling class action lawsuit.
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Yes, indeed.
I am very surprised to not see one yet!
It means all of us with this issue is actually being very patient at the moment.
Again, for anyone who does not have this issue at all, and curious to find out what issue we all are actually describing here by LTE Connection Drop + Voice Drop is:
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=24345

Man, why does everyone always pull the "class action lawsuit" line?
Firstly, you're not going to do diddly squat legally about it, so stop kidding yourselves (and us) when you say that you are.
Secondly, no service you pay for is "guaranteed" to have 100 percent uptime. My Comcast internet connection goes out every 3 months or so anywhere from 5 hours to one day. Do you think I have legal grounds to sue them? Nope. When a thunderstorm rolls in and you lose power for 12 hours, can you sue your electric company? Nope. In fact, I'm pretty sure in most ToS contracts or forms that you sign, it states that they do not guarantee you anything.
LTE is a relatively new technology, and Verizon is the first one to offer it. There's going to be hiccups and growing pains. It's been a year and it's A LOT better now than it was back when it started. 4 years ago we were all happy to get something faster than EDGE speeds, and now we get connections capable of 40/50 Mbps down at times and people are still unhappy.
I understand people's frustrations with the network/switching issues that are occurring between CDMA and LTE. But we live in an age where everyone feels entitled and important enough to immediately sue another company at the drop of a hat.
Here's an idea: If you are faced with severe LTE switching issues and it's a continuing problem, call up customer support. Tell them what is going on and let them help you. Yes, you are past your 14 day return policy, but you have one year of a device warranty, they will ship you out a replacement device. Since your Nexus works fine and your wife's does not, it leads me to believe that it's not a network issue in your area, and either: A. Your wife got two dud Nexus' in a row, which sucks but is not unheard of. or B. Your wife is using some sort of app or service that interferes with the radios. If you still have the issue after the 3rd replacement, call them up again and explain, and they just might be able to give her a different device altogether if the Nexus isn't working out for her.

Dear MMcCraryNJ,
hear my long plea if you have the time. If you don't that is okay.
Firstly, I am so glad you seem to be not affected by this issue on your GNex.
Every single day, I wish I was in your shoes.
On the brighter side though, with LTE Data/voice drop & severe vertical banded screen & one-way-microphone outbound issues, I have come to join in XDA forum. I've also gotten to know countless VZW / Samsung customer service representatives at all levels as well as local store customer service agents.
Secondly, I, and I am sure most of all the other GNex users with above issues, know that no product & service is guaranteed to work perfectly with 100% uptime. Personally, it takes a significant defect of any product for me to call customer service at all. I am one of those, who actually try to live with products that have minor flaws everyday. If GNex did drop my LTE 3-4 times daily, I'll live with out much complaint let alone 3 months that you've mentioned. 3 months of uptime would be heavenly, but I'll actually be perfectly fine with 3 hours uptime. Sadly, my uptime has been 5-10 minutes with LTE. If my one-way-outbound microphone cut off issue happened 1 out of 10 calls, I'll live happily. Sadly, nearly every other call makes my voice into a robot and I have to call back again.
I am personally coming from Droid Eris long long time ago when Android first came out with newest 3G technology back then. Eris wasn't issue free but my satisfaction with what I got was pretty much 95%. You see, as long as a product performs what it claimed to perform 60-80% of the time, I am happy. Claim and advertisement that Verizon made with CDMA Galaxy Nexus in the US as "The latest 4G LTE Pure Google ICS Smartphone meeting the most reliable 4G LTE network in the world" caught my attention, as many others, to actually decide to choose this new phone with my 2 year contract over countless androids that came out in the past 3 years.
Again, our frustration that is described on these post is described in detail here (http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=24345) it is not a LTE / 3G switch issue only. Switching issue is very small part of this problem. I will not go into any detail of one-way-microphone cut off issue at all, due to its unrelated nature on this particular post.
Just as you've suggested naively, your suggestions in order that you wrote them in were exactly the steps I thought and took from very first day I purchased GNex back 4 months ago from a local verizon store. I have stopped in at the verizon store to get exchanges of the actual device, SIM card. None of these replacements solved the data/voice drop issue. I am all talking about stock 4.0.2 without any apps installed on any of these GNex. It can't possibly be the bad batch as I received batches that were produced in completely different months. I loved whatever was promised with GNex so much that I was determined to find the one for me as no other devices Verizon offer at the time appeal to me at all. As 14 days has passed, the local verizon literally told me to 1) wait for the update 2) root your device to all different kind of ROMs and Radios 3) call VZW customer service. Which all of the advice I followed, I am still waiting, none of the ROMs and radios solved the issue.
Ever since then, I've been calling VZW and Samsung (when VZW transferred me), and talked to numerous customer service representatives at all different levels. (Level 2 & 3 and at some points I've been transferred and escalated twice to a person really higher up) With my efforts, I was actually able to tag all my calls, and send them screenshots (via e-mail), and follow through to actually make above mentioned issues officially put on VZW technical bulletin. It is a huge improvement, because when I first called about these issues, they told me "They've never heard of these issues.". Now, after all of our efforts, they admit there's over "120 technical bulletin reportings on these issues."
You do think that it is so easy to get a refurbished factory replacement phones with all my history right?
The answer is sadly No. They've been literally telling me to wait a little longer no matter how much I requested them to get me a replacement device. They are indeed very hesitant to keep replacing devices for all of us especially now days where the supposed update is going to resolve these issues. And on my end, I want to see first if the software fixes it, because I am literally burned out to get another screen protector install everything again, etc. Now the official answer is wait....for the update. If they don't keep their last promise of March update to resolve this issue, that is when my patience will run out and I'll jump to a different device. Although, I love this phone....
This is the longest online posting of any sort in my life ever. I hope this somewhat gives you a new perspective on what unlucky GNex user like myself had to go through in the past 4 months due to getting "bad batches"
Trust me, I hate to live in a society where anybody can talk about law suits against anybody. But, this was one of my first moments that I literally felt like I was hopeless & got betrayed by VZW / Samsung / Google. I started to fantasy about way to make them responsible for this poor product and service. All I wanted was at least 60 percent working "4G LTE Smartphone". (4G LTE is turned off due to connection drop, Phone is unusable as business purposes due to frequent one-way-cut off). After $299 and 2 year contract with $75 monthly service bill of 4 months with all the time I spent to help VZW/Samsung with this issue as a customer, my wildest dreams of thinking of participating in a class law suit, which will never happen, actually make me feel a little bit less helpless towards these major corporations as a customer.
Thank you for hearing my plea. I sincerely apologize for the length of this post.
Hope more of us can enjoy this great GNex in the near future.
After all, I love this device, I love this XDA forum and GNex community. I wouldn't want to switch to a different device just yet

T989 GPS Problems, Multiple Devices

I have two SGSII phones on T-Mobile. I just came from Sprint where I had a SGSII as well. I have had T-Mobile for 2.5 weeks and have traveled twice since then and both times were a distance of 800 miles or so. During this time I needed the GPS as expected and had countless problems.
The problems are very inconsistent and numerous to mention them all...
The generalization of it would be problems locking on to the Sats. In addition to that the GPS also has problems fully functioning when there is a Data loss. It seems to handle a loss of data differently then my Sprint SGSII did.
I am often having inaccurate locating, being off several hundred yards.
Sometimes it will lose the GPS signal altogether, and when I check the GPS app it shows 20-30 SATS visible and 0 connections etc.
With all this said again the Sprint version performs very differently, something is off. Also since I have two of these I was able to test better, and the results are almost identical. There were times that the performance was worse on one then the other as well.
Just to add, I have tried several different ROMS hoping the performance would be better with no luck. I also have tried the aGPS patch that is on here, however I believe that is more successful with the international SGSII and the ATT one.
I encourage anyone experiencing GPS issues with this phone to please post here. I also encourage any DEVS that read this or experience this issue to please check it out for us.
Thanks for taking the time out to read this or participate. Also when you post please include which color you have and roughly when you purchased the phone.

For me navigation is one of the most attractive features of a smartphone. So far my experience was very good with the T-mobile SGS SII. I am using stock firmware with removed bloatware, primarily CarrierIQ, social networks and Samsung media services.
I've found that T-mobile version can use Glonass satellites along with the US GPS giving it higher accuracy and faster lock.
Recently on my ocean trip I've used Navionics US east application in offline mode and it worked as fast and accurate as Google maps. That app is using preloaded maps without online data assistance.
In my experience Google maps worked in Europe as well as in the US.
This phone has drastically better GPS performance compare to the Samsung Vibrant.
It might be that success is dependent on a particular application because all of them do position data interpretation in its own way.
For clear comparison it might be useful to mention what apps were used for testing.

Glad I'm not the only one.
For whatever reason, the AGPS patch completely destroyed my GPS and its ability to lock to anything, so I had to hard wipe my phone after. Tried every single version the OP had in that thread.
As much as I love this phone, the HTC phones of last year had far better GPS.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-T989

The only time I EVER have GPS problems is when my phone is left on WiFi with the GPS off, or if my GPS icon doesn't start flashing when GPS is requested. Flicking GPS off then on fixes that.
If left on WiFi and GPS tries to locate me, it will never lock on.

For those that "dont have problems", how long does it take to lock and do you ever have issues where accuracy goes down for no reason?
Also if you have posted please post the color of the phone. As silly as it seems, I have heard that the white model has different issues. The only way I can think that would matter would be a batch manufacturing issue. Either way the info would help. Also a general timeframe of when you purchased the phone could help as well. Thanks!

DeeXii said:
For those that "dont have problems", how long does it take to lock and do you ever have issues where accuracy goes down for no reason?
Also if you have posted please post the color of the phone. As silly as it seems, I have heard that the white model has different issues. The only way I can think that would matter would be a batch manufacturing issue. Either way the info would help. Also a general timeframe of when you purchased the phone could help as well. Thanks!
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Locks in under 5 secs usually to 20ft or less. with or without wifi but on Juggs 5.0 & Stock
Titanium, Sept 2011 manufacture date.
i'm really shocked to hear about GPS issues on this phone.. my GPS has been solid since day one.

AUTX_buckeye said:
Locks in under 5 secs usually to 20ft or less. with or without wifi but on Juggs 5.0 & Stock
Titanium, Sept 2011 manufacture date.
i'm really shocked to hear about GPS issues on this phone.. my GPS has been solid since day one.
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Well that's hope for me. The Sprint one I just had was solid as I mentioned prior.

well my gps on stock had no problems, un juggs no problems, i was having problems on darkside with no locks at all, but yesterday i installed the agps patch on darkside rom and im now having locks pretty much instantly so my guess is that it might have something to do with kernel or build or something.
to be honest if your in stock i wouldnt flash the agps patch, i would only do it on a custom rom that is having gps issues.

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well my gps on stock had no problems, un juggs no problems, i was having problems on darkside with no locks at all, but yesterday i installed the agps patch on darkside rom and im now having locks pretty much instantly so my guess is that it might have something to do with kernel or build or something.
to be honest if your in stock i wouldnt flash the agps patch, i would only do it on a custom rom that is having gps issues.
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Again what color phone do you have and when did you purchase it?

DeeXii said:
Again what color phone do you have and when did you purchase it?
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white december 23

Try going to accessory greeks and check out the wireless Bluetooth receiver they have in stock for 99.99$ it's NMEa, I have three globalsat bt-359 genuine and it was very cheap and it responds very slow on my s2 andI wind up missing turns, but it should work anywhere you get clear sky, except the Sahara and a few other treacherous Arizona and Nevada stress areas probably buying one of the ones on accessory greeks retail do a custom tailor job. Happy trails.
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My phone is black if it can help you
In regards to how fast I can tell that it locks in 5 to 20 sec with accuracy up to 9 feet.
In my experience the best results I had with the stock T-mobile ROM.
T_mobile is also the carrier that makes use of Glonass navigation satellites, not sure that others do the same. Typically I can see more than 21 satellites of both systems.
I would suggest to look closely at the software running on your phone.
Samsung included test software allowing to check signal to noise ratio and locking speed of raw hardware. If you find SN better in the range 22-34 and reasonable lock time your phone is fine.

Try flashing this, it may help.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1476962
Sent from my SGH-T989
Edit: nvm... I realized that you already tried this

DeeXii said:
I have two SGSII phones on T-Mobile. I just came from Sprint where I had a SGSII as well. I have had T-Mobile for 2.5 weeks and have traveled twice since then and both times were a distance of 800 miles or so. During this time I needed the GPS as expected and had countless problems.
The problems are very inconsistent and numerous to mention them all...
The generalization of it would be problems locking on to the Sats. In addition to that the GPS also has problems fully functioning when there is a Data loss. It seems to handle a loss of data differently then my Sprint SGSII did.
I am often having inaccurate locating, being off several hundred yards.
Sometimes it will lose the GPS signal altogether, and when I check the GPS app it shows 20-30 SATS visible and 0 connections etc.
With all this said again the Sprint version performs very differently, something is off. Also since I have two of these I was able to test better, and the results are almost identical. There were times that the performance was worse on one then the other as well.
Just to add, I have tried several different ROMS hoping the performance would be better with no luck. I also have tried the aGPS patch that is on here, however I believe that is more successful with the international SGSII and the ATT one.
I encourage anyone experiencing GPS issues with this phone to please post here. I also encourage any DEVS that read this or experience this issue to please check it out for us.
Thanks for taking the time out to read this or participate. Also when you post please include which color you have and roughly when you purchased the phone.
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I have similar problems as you especially with inaccuracy and sudden loss of GPS signal In GPS Status I see, the error being as large as 150-200m in the beginning. It narrows down, gradually in a minute however its still is as large 15-30m. Sometimes its down to 3-4m from there. Sometimes it doesn't lock at all as it sees no satellite or sees them but unable to lock. It is very very unreliable as you have said.
I have Titanium version of t989 which I'm guessing is couple of months old. I got it from eBay recently. Also i'm not using any case at the moment as according to some people it limits it range.
For comparisons sake, I had HTC amaze short while back and it would lock down in 5-15secs at same place with error usually within 4-8m.
I tried aGPS patch but i don't see any improvements with it. Additionally it sometimes make the GPS act weird, like GPS status will show it locked on 1 satellite, if I open up google maps, my location had error of couple of 1000s miles, lol. I was being shown in CA (I'm in mass)
@For people having more issues with aGPS patch, no need to hard reset, it simply updates GPS.conf. You can restore your original gps.conf from my earlier post using root explorer. Its present in /systems/etc folder
First I thought it is GPS driver implementation problem with this phone but
could it be, in our phones the GPS antenna is damaged as it doesn't make any sense as most people have excellent gps performance ?

I purchased a black SGS T989 in March. I have zero GPS issues, usually lock in <5s to 4-8m. I find the spectrum of different experiences with GPS on this phone interesting, I use my phone as a daily driver (quite literally, it's my GPS too!).

Just sharing my experience, I am currently running the ICS Perfection Rom. And I was/am having GPS problems until today. I downloaded the app faster fix off of the play market and did a quick reboot>ran the app> then full restart. And now I get a pretty solid lock around 10-14 satellites.
Just sharing my 2cents. I think the problem has to do with the NTP. If that makes sense.
Sent from my ICED up Samsung Galaxy S2.

no issues on my black one, only really use GPS Status for ~2-5 min at a time , locks on to 10+ sats in ~10 sec max. While driving down highway mainly, if it makes a difference , using Darkside 2.3 and whatever kernel it came with

Guys I had similar issues with GPS until I narrowed it down by doing various experiments with different ROMs/ back to stock/ hardware etc. It turned out to be my CASE!!! I had bought this case with shiny metallic coating on the inside and it was causing the issue. With the case off I get a lock in less than 5 seconds...Hope this helps.

On AOKP M6, locks in a few seconds, accurate to between 10 to 20 meters, I've seen it as accurate to 6 meters!
Sent from AOKP Goodness :-D

I may be skewing from the main topic but hear me out. I owned an SII for about 5 months before switching to the Galaxy Nexus however still have two Tmo SGSIIs in the same household. When I had my SII I would in fact encounter the aforementioned GPS issues. They were completely sporadic which made the GPS feature highly unreliable. Spending some time with the GN I have not encountered any GPS issues, GPS locks within seconds and no loss of connection. I was curious as to why my SIIs GPS was very fickle so I did some simple, field tests if you will. They consisted of the placing of the phone in certain positions while driving for example. I found that with my SII, I had to constantly keep the phone in my hand or close to windows or the dashboard, otherwise the GPS connection would simply drop. The same if placed upside down, the accuracy radius increased dramatically ( distance-wise). However on the GN the signal remains strong in situations where the SII would lose GPS connection. To say that those affected by this issue have a hardware defect would be inconclusive but I do feel as though its not software defect.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2

There ARE issues with the GPS

I'm sure people are going to flame me and adamantly disagree, but please hear me out. No one wants this to be wrong more than me. I really like this phone, but I can't live with a broken GPS.
I have tested this two days in a row. I go to work for 9 hours, all radios are on. I never turn the GPS off. When I get home, I change clothes and go on a four mile walk. I use Runtastic to track this. Two days in a row, the GPS symbol comes up, but never stops blinking. If I toggle GPS off and back on, it gets a lock immediately and the GPS icon stops blinking. It will hold the lock for the rest of the walk. Rinse and repeat. Launching Maps or GPS test does not help it get a fix. It stays blinking until I toggle the GPS off/on.
The moral here is that I would have to toggle the GPS off/on every day before I walk. I have not tested this with navigation yet because I ride a motorcycle most days, but I intend to before sending it back. This is strangely similar to the (known) issues that my AT&T Note 3 had.
Please tell me that some of you have seen this. I don't see how it could be a faulty unit. My GS5, G3, and Z3c do not have this issue under the exact same circumstances. The GS5 being the most similar in hardware/software.

I used GPS in the car today and it never lost a lock. I haven't used the app that you speak of however. Is there anything that I can do to help test?

This happened to my note 3. The GPS chip was bad. The hardware was the problem. If you call att they can connect to your phone remotely and see what percentage you are connecting the GPS chip. They told me I was only getting 60%. Sent me a new phone within 2 days...

WizeGuyDezignz said:
I used GPS in the car today and it never lost a lock. I haven't used the app that you speak of however. Is there anything that I can do to help test?
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Good to know it didn't lose the lock on your drive. My Note 3 used to jump around all over the place.
Honestly, I'm not sure what you could do. I don't think it's the app. When it gets like this, Maps, GPS Test, etc. will not get a solid lock until I toggle GPS off and on. The only reason I notice it on Runtastic is because that's when I use the GPS every day.
Something is happening with the GPS chip. It's either going to sleep and not waking up, or it's getting stuck on old GPS data or something. Like I said, I can reproduce it every day just by using it normally and then trying to use the GPS when I get home from work.

b0Ne83 said:
This happened to my note 3. The GPS chip was bad. The hardware was the problem. If you call att they can connect to your phone remotely and see what percentage you are connecting the GPS chip. They told me I was only getting 60%. Sent me a new phone within 2 days...
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Yeah, I had the Note 3, but from what I read it was software. I never did get my unit replaced and I sold it that way.
I bought my Note 4 through Amazon, so I'll have to do a return through them, if it really is defective.

It's possible. I hope you can get it to work. My note 4 is running flawless

Here's the thing too, guys. After I toggle the GPS off/on, the thing works flawlessly for the rest of the evening and through most of the next day. Like, it gets a lock inside within seconds.
That's the thing. It's not that it doesn't work at all. It just sort of goes on strike at the same time every night and has to be woken up again.
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How can anyone here, including me, make declarative statements about what a device that's been out less than a week is or isn't doing across the board? Here's my GPS experience and I use it a lot. I use "GPS only" with Wi-Fi and carrier network sensing turned off. The GPS is slow on first lock; slower than my Note 3 was. Once it's locked it stays locked with the exception of losing signal when it encounters obstructions. That's normal and a byproduct of GPS technology not anything specific to the Note 3 or 4. I never had the issues with my Note 3's GPS that some people reported. Other than the slower initial lock I'd say, based on my experiences, the Note 4's GPS is significantly more stable and better at holding a signal. I use Here Beta a lot and the only other issue I've encountered is when the app's out of focus and comes back to the foreground it takes about a second for it to reorient itself. All that said I'd rather have the Note 4's GPS than the Note 3's (keeping in mind my Note 3's GPS served me well).

BarryH_GEG said:
How can anyone here, including me, make declarative statements about what a device that's been out less than a week is or isn't doing across the board? Here's my GPS experience and I use it a lot. I use "GPS only" with Wi-Fi and carrier network sensing turned off. The GPS is slow on first lock; slower than my Note 3 was. Once it's locked it stays locked with the exception of losing signal when it encounters obstructions. That's normal and a byproduct of GPS technology not anything specific to the Note 3 or 4. I never had the issues with my Note 3's GPS that some people reported. Other than the slower initial lock I'd say, based on my experiences, the Note 4's GPS is significantly more stable and better at holding a signal. I use Here Beta a lot and the only other issue I've encountered is when the app's out of focus and comes back to the foreground it takes about a second for it to reorient itself. All that said I'd rather have the Note 4's GPS than the Note 3's (keeping in mind my Note 3's GPS served me well).
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I was actually just hoping that someone may have noticed similar behavior. I always seem to be the first to discover issues because I get my phone early and really test it. Often times, I post something like this and no one replies or reports the same issue, then months later a new thread blows up about it or my thread gets resurrected. I'm just trying to determine if this is a real issue so I can return the phone, if necessary. I can't life with a buggy GPS. I use it way too much.

It takes about 5 seconds to get a gps lock for me. And about another 10 to get the most accurate reception.
This is indoors, just tested it in my bedroom.

harlenm said:
It takes about 5 seconds to get a gps lock for me. And about another 10 to get the most accurate reception.
This is indoors, just tested it in my bedroom.
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Yeah, well thanks, but that's really not the issue here.

greyhulk said:
Yeah, well thanks, but that's really not the issue here.
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The topic is gps and initial locking, which I commented that I'm not having the issue.
If the OP is, then it's possible he has a defective device since I don't see that issue.

harlenm said:
The topic is gps and initial locking, which I commented that I'm not having the issue.
If the OP is, then it's possible he has a defective device since I don't see that issue.
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The topic is GPS and occasional initial locking. Mine works fine when it works, but it's situational. Telling me that yours locks fine doesn't help me because mine does too, right now.
I'm trying to see if anyone else is experiencing times when the GPS simply stops working until they toggle it off and back on.

greyhulk said:
I was actually just hoping that someone may have noticed similar behavior. I always seem to be the first to discover issues because I get my phone early and really test it. Often times, I post something like this and no one replies or reports the same issue, then months later a new thread blows up about it or my thread gets resurrected. I'm just trying to determine if this is a real issue so I can return the phone, if necessary. I can't life with a buggy GPS. I use it way too much.
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I wasn't being "*****y" at you on purpose. For some reason the Note 4's forums have had a large number of "gate," "OMG!!!," and threads liberally using the royal "we" with much of what's said being baseless or exaggerative. My tone was carry over from the thread on the international forum where a guy launched a "Pen-gate" thread complete with video because his cheap-ass magnetic case was causing S Pen dead spots. So apologies. Notebook Check does thorough GPS testing and their review of the Note 4 should be up soon. Here's a sample from the Xperia Z3 Compact.
They tested the Note 3's GPS here...
http://www.notebookcheck.net/Review-Samsung-Galaxy-Note-3-SM-N9005-Smartphone.104798.0.html

I just finished a 1700 MI trip I lost location once but it was in the back woods of Iowa. Much better than the note 3 I owned.

BarryH_GEG said:
I wasn't being "*****y" at you on purpose. For some reason the Note 4's forums have had a large number of "gate," "OMG!!!," and threads liberally using the royal "we" with much of what's said being baseless or exaggerative. My tone was carry over from the thread on the international forum where a guy launched a "Pen-gate" thread complete with video because his cheap-ass magnetic case was causing S Pen dead spots. So apologies. Notebook Check does thorough GPS testing and their review of the Note 4 should be up soon. Here's a sample from the Xperia Z3 Compact.
They tested the Note 3's GPS here...
http://www.notebookcheck.net/Review-Samsung-Galaxy-Note-3-SM-N9005-Smartphone.104798.0.html
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Thanks, man. It may just be something in my environment or software setup, but it's definitely odd.
I see you on here a lot and I've always found you to be helpful, so no harm no foul.

I was having issues with my phone holding a lock too. It would find satellites, but would keep dropping out every couple of seconds.
I downloaded the "GPS Test" app, updated AGPS data from the settings menu, and now it locks and stays locked 100% of the time. And locks really fast, too.
May not help anyone else, but thought I would share.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-N910A

I had a bad GPS chip in my Note 3, it wouldn't get a lock. Seems to work great on my Note4 so far, I use Waze every day driving to and from work.
One thing though is that if you have GPS accuracy set to also use WiFi/mobile networks you will drop GPS a LOT, that was something I noticed as it tried to lock onto WiFi carriers. I turned this off and only use GPS for accuracy and it works perfectly with the usual caveats, tunnels etc.

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That's the thing. It's not that it doesn't work at all. It just sort of goes on strike at the same time every night and has to be woken up again.
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I haven't seen this myself. I just checked Google Maps and it displays my location immediately, without my having toggled the GPS today.
So I believe that you're having a hardware problem, but luckily it's not inherent in the Note 4, so you should be able to exchange for one with a properly working GPS.

Okay, guys. I'm an idiot. Turns out that this is all Runtastic. As long as the app is open in the background (during my runs/walks), the GPS icon blinks. Even opening Maps, GPS test, etc. will not give me a solid lock. As soon as I kill Runtastic, though, all is fine. It would seem that this is just how Runtastic uses the GPS and it overrides everything else. I had to do further testing to figure this out, but it would appear that I jumped the gun. For that, I apologize. I'm just glad I don't have to send my Note 4 back.
Thanks to everyone who participated.
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