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i havent gone threw every review but any of u guys catch anything in any review?
the epic by far was the best phone ive used but the GPS was down right awful and sprint nor samsung did anything to fix it
XDA fixed it enough to keep me happy. I think people are blowing this gps thing way out of proportion. "If it doesn't work perfectly or, at least as good as other phones then it must be the most awful thing ever!".
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XDA fixed it enough to keep me happy. I think people are blowing this gps thing way out of proportion. "If it doesn't work perfectly or, at least as good as other phones then it must be the most awful thing ever!".
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was never blown out of proportion.....my girls epic who is stock can never get a lock
mine who was rooted would get signal but never better then 40m lock and would lose signal constantly.....try taking an 9 hour drive with it on and see how many times ur signal is lost
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was never blown out of proportion.....my girls epic who is stock can never get a lock
mine who was rooted would get signal but never better then 40m lock and would lose signal constantly.....try taking an 9 hour drive with it on and see how many times ur signal is lost
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I certainly remember that a lot of people had trouble, but I never did. Mine always locked perfectly and quickly and never gave me trouble on drives short and long.
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was never blown out of proportion.....my girls epic who is stock can never get a lock
mine who was rooted would get signal but never better then 40m lock and would lose signal constantly.....try taking an 9 hour drive with it on and see how many times ur signal is lost
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I never understood the gps deal. It seemed so sporadic. Mine always worked and I am stock. I used it last weekend on EH17 to drive 5 hours to saint louis and it was perfect the entire way there and back. Didn't cut out once. But you see some people worth working gps and others without it.
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I have to agree on the gps sucking. On any drive over an hour I could expect to loose lock. I'd imagine if we looked in some of the other GSII forums we might get a clue.
the only thing i ever loved more about my evo then the epic was the gps....htc never gave me gps issues ever
when i had the bionic or droid x they both locked on quick
Backing up the GPS being just short of useless. Remember, just because YOU haven't experienced the problem doesn't prove there isn't one. On Eclair I had very little trouble, but on FroYo I would constantly lose signal mid-trip, having to frequently turn it off and back on to re-lock and hope I wouldn't lose it right when I was in the middle of complex turns or had missed a turn and needed re-routing. In the Gingerbread leaks it turned to completely useless, locking up 100% after as little as 10 seconds of use, requiring a full restart of the phone to be useful again.
So yes, the Epic's biggest flaw was its next-to-useless GPS, hands down. That said, most reviews of the entire Galaxy S line agreed the GPS was bad on all versions. So far I've heard nothing of the sort about the Galaxy S II phones in Europe which suggests the entire line will be similar, including our new Epic 4G Touches.
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was never blown out of proportion.....my girls epic who is stock can never get a lock
mine who was rooted would get signal but never better then 40m lock and would lose signal constantly.....try taking an 9 hour drive with it on and see how many times ur signal is lost
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If you couldn't fix it then that wasn't the norm. I would have returned it to Sprint and got a different one within the first 30 days.
9 hour drives? No problem. Longest I've been on was 6 but the GPS didn't have any problems. The battery on the other hand...
got mine yesterday, used GPS with google nav and telenav. drove for about an hour in farm country Ohio. GPS took a few seconds longer to lock than my EVo but once locked didn't drop signal. Still a little early to tell but no obvious problems yet.
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Backing up the GPS being just short of useless. Remember, just because YOU haven't experienced the problem doesn't prove there isn't one. On Eclair I had very little trouble, but on FroYo I would constantly lose signal mid-trip, having to frequently turn it off and back on to re-lock and hope I wouldn't lose it right when I was in the middle of complex turns or had missed a turn and needed re-routing. In the Gingerbread leaks it turned to completely useless, locking up 100% after as little as 10 seconds of use, requiring a full restart of the phone to be useful again.
So yes, the Epic's biggest flaw was its next-to-useless GPS, hands down. That said, most reviews of the entire Galaxy S line agreed the GPS was bad on all versions. So far I've heard nothing of the sort about the Galaxy S II phones in Europe which suggests the entire line will be similar, including our new Epic 4G Touches.
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Since I don't know who you were responding to I will assume it was me. You know that goes both ways right. Just because YOU have experienced the problem doesn't prove there is one. I have used every official build and every gingerbread leak except EE03 and I have never had a single problem. I use GPS frequently. I have never had a lockup. I have always had an instant lock. And I have always been able to get within 10 meters with the average being 3 meters. However, I never said there wasn't a problem. I just said I never understood the issue as to why it worked for some and not others. You would think that it would be global if the hardware is identical. Makes me wonder if it has anything to do with location in respect to the satellites. Never tried to dig into it because fortunately I didn't have the issue. But I do hope that the touch is without issues because not having gps would be a deal breaker for me.
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Since I don't know who you were responding to I will assume it was me. You know that goes both ways right. Just because YOU have experienced the problem doesn't prove there is one. I have used every official build and every gingerbread leak except EE03 and I have never had a single problem. I use GPS frequently. I have never had a lockup. I have always had an instant lock. And I have always been able to get within 10 meters with the average being 3 meters. However, I never said there wasn't a problem. I just said I never understood the issue as to why it worked for some and not others. You would think that it would be global if the hardware is identical. Makes me wonder if it has anything to do with location in respect to the satellites. Never tried to dig into it because fortunately I didn't have the issue. But I do hope that the touch is without issues because not having gps would be a deal breaker for me.
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Just because he experienced the problem means that a problem exists. Whether it's a wide spread problem or a unique incident, the problem still exists. On the Epic forums people are constantly complaining about GPS issues. There are few fortunate ones like you who haven't had the same issues. I didn't have GPS issues for a while until my job had me drive long distances.
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Just because he experienced the problem means that a problem exists. Whether it's a wide spread problem or a unique incident, the problem still exists. On the Epic forums people are constantly complaining about GPS issues. There are few fortunate ones like you who haven't had the same issues. I didn't have GPS issues for a while until my job had me drive long distances.
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So if you brick your phone because of something you did is the phone bad. Is there a flaw in the phone? No. And again, I never said there wasn't a problem. Actually I said that there was a problem for some and not for others. The only point I was making is that I didn't understand why it worked for some and not others. I wish we could have found the root cause.
Generally speaking GPS on the galaxy S line sucked world wide. Generally speaking it appears that samsung fix this in the galaxy s II.
This is based on reading numerous reviews on both; though it is always possible they messed up on the epic touch as it is slightly different and has wimax; I'm expecting it to work like a charm.
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I do wonder how many folks who tested gps on the galaxy s remember to ignore wifi triangulation when voicing a comment.
Forgot about this thread and started another a bit further down. I managed to sneak GPS status onto our demo phone yesterday and it locked to 9/10 sats in less than 2 seconds from inside. Accuracy was only at 30m when I cut it off, but it was indoors in a spot where my epic cannot lock at all. Pretty sure it's fixed.
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The only point I was making is that I didn't understand why it worked for some and not others. I wish we could have found the root cause.
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I did spend a fair amount of time investigating the GPS issues on EC05. There are at least two problems: (i) GpsOne Xtra data that fails to download and update, eventually resulting in stale ephemeris and inability to get timely locks, and (ii) a RIL synchronization bug that results in the GPS crashing with 5% probability on every exit/switch of a GPS utilizing app.
The latter of those two problem is definitely confirmed and affects every EC05 Epic. However, if you only use Navigation once a day, you'll run into that bug an average once a month and might not even notice it. But it is possible to reliably reproduce.
The former of the two problems I never fully understood. The GPS should work as long as you reboot once a week, but we know folks whose phones chronically couldn't download new Xtra data on reboot, likely becuase it was attempting to do so "too quickly" after establishing a network connection. Forcing an Xtra download through GPS Test, GPS Aids, or with a patched framework resolved the issue for most of those folks. The remaining issue is that the ephemeris would still go stale very quickly (hours) on some phones, and an EFS/NVRAM clear appears to help that.
Part of the issue is that the "brokenness" of the GPS is somewhat subjective. It's entirey possible for the GPS to absolutely not be able to get an Xtra-assisted lock, but using almanac data still get one in 30-60s in a vehicle. For some folks, that might be "good enough" and wouldn't think there's much of a problem.
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Just because he experienced the problem means that a problem exists. Whether it's a wide spread problem or a unique incident, the problem still exists. On the Epic forums people are constantly complaining about GPS issues. There are few fortunate ones like you who haven't had the same issues. I didn't have GPS issues for a while until my job had me drive long distances.
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I think the opposite of what your saying is true. This problem isn't as wide spread as it seems. The few who have this problem are very loud about it and complain about it over the forums. Though I seriously doubt that they are the majority.
If fixing your gps doesn't work then you can always set it back to stock and take it in for repair. If they can't repair and you don't have insurance then you can pay a small fee for a epic with a working gps. I doubt anyone is forcing people to live with a phone that the gps doesn't work on.
Considering that it has a dedicated GPS chip "SiRFstarIV GSD4t GPS" I doubt that we are going to see the same issues.
The integrated GPS on the SoC stinks, and samsung knows that. Using the SiRFstarIV will solve 99% of peoples GPS problems.
engadget claims it is solid. fwiw. http://www.engadget.com/2011/09/15/samsung-epic-4g-touch-review/
Our calls were absolutely solid. The phone's reception is on par with the best handsets around, and we never suffered from dropped calls or degraded quality. Our calls came in absolutely clear, and we think the speakers go to 11 because we had to actually turn down the volume to comfortably hear the other end of the line. The same thing could be said about the loudspeaker for calls and music, which both came out loud and clear without needing to strain our ears or feeling like we needed to break out the headphones. However, the sound seemed a bit limited when watching a full-length blockbuster movie, though we believe this had to do with the quality of the movie itself and not the phone.Last but not least, we double-checked the GPS to make sure it wouldn't have similar concerns to the Galaxy S series, and weren' t disappointed. In several locations -- including a basement next to a window -- the GPS pulled up our location in less than ten seconds. Needless to say, this is definitely a sound improvement, one we imagine had special attention given to it throughout the course of the phone's development.
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As of now I'm on my 4th Gnexus and once again I'm being plagued with the same issue I have since my first one back on launch day. Loss of voice during a call, high pitch noises, (think scratching on a chalk board) loss of sound on all key press as well as numbers when dialing.
I have called about this issue. First time around Verizon said take it back get a new one. So I did that and so on happened 2 more times same issue same results. Now on my 4th one its starting again. So verizon said it was Samsung and Samsung said Verizon.
So I was hoping for some input on what direction I should go now.
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After so many replacements, I can only imagine that this is happening because of your location?
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My wife has the same phone and she has not had any of these issues. On the other had she doesn't use her phone as much as I do! I'm pretty much on mine all day and she maybe looks at it once a day.
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My wife has the same phone and she has not had any of these issues. On the other had she doesn't use her phone as much as I do! I'm pretty much on mine all day and she maybe looks at it once a day.
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This is an obvious case of user-error. The odds of getting a defunct phone that many times in a row is about like winning the lottery, literally.
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As of now I'm on my 4th Gnexus and once again I'm being plagued with the same issue I have since my first one back on launch day. Loss of voice during a call, high pitch noises, (think scratching on a chalk board) loss of sound on all key press as well as numbers when dialing.
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when you said high pitch noises, do you mean that during a call you can hear a buzzing sort of noise when people speak? I get that on my nexus too, it's slightly irritating but I'll live with it, better than spending time to unroot it, go back to stock and then waste a whole week in the service centre.
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This is an obvious case of user-error. The odds of getting a defunct phone that many times in a row is about like winning the lottery, literally.
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It's obviously not user error.. If you read a bit you'd see there is a very lengthy thread about this very issue.. It's called microphone cutting out during call or something like that.. You can replace your phone as much as you want, it's not going to change it. the cause is unknown but I believe they have at least determined it not to be hardware..
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It's obviously not user error.. If you read a bit you'd see there is a very lengthy thread about this very issue.. It's called microphone cutting out during call or something like that.. You can replace your phone as much as you want, it's not going to change it. the cause is unknown but I believe they have at least determined it not to be hardware..
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That is correct. Audio outbound gets garbled and then lost completely. This is the worst bug of this phone. I can't count how many phone calls where I'd have to hang up and redial because the other person couldn't hear me anymore.
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I'd blame the carrier, as i'm on Orange UK, and I use T-Mobile UK as well, and call quality both ends, is excellent
Your wife may not have the issue but are y'all talking on the same tower when the issue arises? I'm on Verizon as well and never had this problem. That said, I don't talk a lot, maybe 400 minutes a month - mostly to my boss that has an iPhone so half the time I can't hear crap anyway due to that fact.
I will say, as a recent T-Mobile transplant that has used Verizon off and on for several years with work phones, Verizon doesn't seem to have the same call quality in general terms. Maybe it's just my ear, but even back in the day I owned some Motorola claim shells that sounded pretty muddy.
Have you tried to replicate the problem on a completely stock phone with no 3rd party apps? I wonder if there's a conflict somewhere.
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This is an obvious case of user-error. The odds of getting a defunct phone that many times in a row is about like winning the lottery, literally.
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Not sure how it could be user error as well. This isn't my first phone.
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Not sure how it could be user error as well. This isn't my first phone.
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Your wife may not have the issue but are y'all talking on the same tower when the issue arises? I'm on Verizon as well and never had this problem. That said, I don't talk a lot, maybe 400 minutes a month - mostly to my boss that has an iPhone so half the time I can't hear crap anyway due to that fact.
I will say, as a recent T-Mobile transplant that has used Verizon off and on for several years with work phones, Verizon doesn't seem to have the same call quality in general terms. Maybe it's just my ear, but even back in the day I owned some Motorola claim shells that sounded pretty muddy.
Have you tried to replicate the problem on a completely stock phone with no 3rd party apps? I wonder if there's a conflict somewhere.
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I pretty much tried everything. New sim cards, using it with nothing installed (stock) I'm super bummed I been waiting on a nexus device to hit Verizon for a while now. I'm not sure how much longer I'm going to put up with this.
What about rolling back onto 3G? Are you on the fringe of LTE connectivity at all?
I know a lot of people talk about call quality. Frankly, I haven't experienced any issues and no one has told me that it sounds like crap (and believe me, I have friends that would mention it, we're a HARSH bunch). I don't doubt they exist, and you certainly don't sound like 3/4ths of XDA that are overly dramatic whiners. Out of curiosity, roughly how many minutes a month do you talk? Any chance that it's just an issue where, well you know, the more you do something the more opportunity to experience something that goes wrong? I used to talk a ton for work, like 3000+ minutes a month. I had a lot more dropped calls then than now, know what I mean?
You know what I'd do, which Verizon would HATE but, hey, you are the customer. I'd take you and your wife's phone into Verizon, and have them flip the numbers around. Keep EVERYTHING else about the phones the same. Her apps stay, your apps stay, just swap the numbers around and try her phone with your regular use for maybe 3 or 4 days. If you can replicate the problem while she doesn't experience the issue at all on your phone, then you can probably narrow it down to either the tower your on, or maybe the phone really is just buggy after you've been on it for a while.
Every so often I'll have a long conversation and a call gets dropped, but I've never not been able to hear someone or them not be able to hear me. Like, they're the typical issues that you could assign to either being a tower pass off problem or the nature of LTE long before the phone (on either my end or the other person's end). But, like I said, that's a rare occurrence for me.
What version of ICS are you running? I had this same problem, specifically and most frequently the one where the audio cuts out of a call, sometimes it'd do it and force me to re-call my girlfriend as many as 3 or 4 times in an hour.
What fixed it was flashing ICS 4.0.4 released from Google themselves (if I waited for Verizon to do it I'd probably be single by now). This fixed it for me immediately right out of the gate. I've had the other issues you spoke of every so often but the audio cut out was constant. This fixed everything. Been running for a while without problems (month or so maybe?).
Eh...you didn't flash it straight from Google. At best, you flashed it straight from the Verizon/Google ota server the test ota is on
I stand corrected, this is what I get when trying to post while on hold at work. Not straight from Google, leaked 4.0.4. Originally found it elsewhere linked to a google domain site, but it's best served up here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1481044
Give that a shot for now, fixed my woes anyway.
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I stand corrected, this is what I get when trying to post while on hold at work. Not straight from Google, leaked 4.0.4. Originally found it elsewhere linked to a google domain site, but it's best served up here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1481044
Give that a shot for now, fixed my woes anyway.
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From here?
http://android.clients.google.com/p....signed-mysid-IMM30B-from-ICL53F.659e0a8f.zip
try a different SIM/Network. you'd be suprised
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try a different SIM/Network. you'd be suprised
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What network do you suppose he would try?
Sounds like the phone is doing you a favor. If I had to talk to my girlfriend for an hour a day I'd want my phone to kill itself.
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I stand corrected, this is what I get when trying to post while on hold at work. Not straight from Google, leaked 4.0.4. Originally found it elsewhere linked to a google domain site, but it's best served up here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1481044
Give that a shot for now, fixed my woes anyway.
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Did not fix the microphone going out issue for me :-( I just flashed the 4.0.4 leak on Tuesday hoping it would alleviate this problem, but I had the mic go out about 15 mins into a call last night. Same story as with stock, had to hang up and re-dial to continue the conversation.
Now that the phone has been out for about half a year (1 month in the US), have any annoying/troubling issues been found?
For example, I was told by a manager at AT&T that some people who have the HTC One are complaining that the phone literally gets too hot to hold after "extended" video recording. They've only seen it with a few phones (owned by their salespeople), but it's been reported...
I've read both great and horrible reviews about the camera on the OGP, and I'm wondering if maybe LG is sourcing components from various vendors [something akin to TV manufacturers using display panels made by various manufacturers in models with the identical model number (AKA "the panel lottery")]. If that's correct, then maybe you get a good one and maybe you don't...but that's what I'm trying to find out.
I've read a few reviews/postings that some people had issues with battery life which turned out to be bad batteries. Anyone have that?
So, with that said, is there anything that seems to be out of sorts with the OGP?
The only issue I can find is the Wifi is junk.
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The only issue I can find is the Wifi is junk.
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Care to elaborate? I've not noticed any issues with mine.
It connects fine to both my routers, but will not sustain a stable data stream. It also seems far slower than it should be. Speedtest.net app runs about 2-3Mbps.
Sometimes, the test won't even complete, the Wifi will disconnect and reconnect.
It transfers fine for about 5 seconds or so. I just tried watching a free video on Google Play, and every 5 seconds the stream stalled. Web pages take forever to load, and forget about downloading a big app.
I guess I'll have to call AT&T, or visit a store. I paid full retail for this thing.
Edit: My routers are both a little bit older, a Belkin F5D7230-4 WirelessG and a Netgear WGR614V9, but I've never had this type of issue with any other device.
Edit2: I rebooted everything in sight, including (but not limited to) my routers, my cable modem, my switches, my WHS and the OG Pro. Seems to be more stable now, but still a little slow, around 2Mbps downstream.
There's only two issues with the thing, it's too good, and it's only on AT&T.
Seriously, there are a few niggling things.
1. The QSlide bar takes up too much space in the notification shade. Luckily, once you root, there's a fix around here somewhere for it.
2. The side buttons are very VERY shallow, to the point where even if you put on a SKIN the buttons are hard to feel and even get to. Still figuring out what to do about that one.
3. Not enough accessories. This is a very real consequence of it only being available on AT&T here, it's just not going to be as popular with the accessory makers as the Galaxy S4 and HTC One, which are pretty much available on every carrier.
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It connects fine to both my routers, but will not sustain a stable data stream. It also seems far slower than it should be. Speedtest.net app runs about 2-3Mbps.
Sometimes, the test won't even complete, the Wifi will disconnect and reconnect.
It transfers fine for about 5 seconds or so. I just tried watching a free video on Google Play, and every 5 seconds the stream stalled. Web pages take forever to load, and forget about downloading a big app.
I guess I'll have to call AT&T, or visit a store. I paid full retail for this thing.
Edit: My routers are both a little bit older, a Belkin F5D7230-4 WirelessG and a Netgear WGR614V9, but I've never had this type of issue with any other device.
Edit2: I rebooted everything in sight, including (but not limited to) my routers, my cable modem, my switches, my WHS and the OG Pro. Seems to be more stable now, but still a little slow, around 2Mbps downstream.
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my WiFi works great and I get a good range. I would look into getting a new router,I had this issue last year with all my Samsung phones once I got a we router things worked out great, Remember tech has a short life span you have to upgrade at times to keep everything on par.
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my WiFi works great and I get a good range. I would look into getting a new router,I had this issue last year with all my Samsung phones once I got a we router things worked out great, Remember tech has a short life span you have to upgrade at times to keep everything on par.
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Sound seems low on mine, even at full volume.
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Sound seems low on mine, even at full volume.
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It blasts my ears off with headphones, but I can easily crank my head unit to max and it's not anywhere near as loud of my NoteII was. I should be able to compensate by adjusting my gains, though.
Clipped voice commands in navigation
I read in another thread that at least 2 users were having issues with the voice commands during navigation. Their issue is that when the OGP speaks a navigation command, the audio stops in mid sentence. The last few words (or parts of the words) are clipped off. Example: instead of "turn left in 4 miles", they are getting, "turn left in 4 m", or instead of "proceed through the roundabout", they get "proceed through the roun".
Is anyone else having this issue? I'd be curious also if your phone is not having the issue.
My email client crashes every time I try to open an email. Used to work. Tried clearing data still crashes. Only problem so far.
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It blasts my ears off with headphones, but I can easily crank my head unit to max and it's not anywhere near as loud of my NoteII was. I should be able to compensate by adjusting my gains, though.
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Wonder if it's just my particular unit somehow. Now I'll have to research adjustments that could make a difference.
Thanks.
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Wonder if it's just my particular unit somehow. Now I'll have to research adjustments that could make a difference.
Thanks.
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It could also be your headphones. I'm using a pair of Samsung OEM S3/NoteII headphones (all the controls work correctly).
When I mentioned adjustments, I meant to the amps in my truck, where 90% of my listening takes place.
I posted above about some users getting clipped voice instructions with navigation. I have not tried that yet but i found another voice issue. I don't know if it is due to an app or the phone. Using an NFC app (NFC Task Launcher), i have it set to read the time aloud when i tap an NFC tag to set my alarm. When it reads the time, it clips off the minutes and only reads the hours. For example, if i set the time for 11:30, all it says is "eleven", and cuts off the "thirty". Anyone else having voice issues?
Only actual issue I have is with the search feature in the contacts. When typing a name, it seems to reset or clear out the search field when you type more than 3 characters.
Anyone else seeing this?
Other than that, I love this phone. (I don't consider the slow progress on unlocking the bootloader to be an issue. The DEVs will crack this thing shortly. (They do have lives.)
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This phone is so far so good. The only thing I find uncomfortable is that when you exit your favorites tab from your phone app either by back or home button, and then when you hit phone again, it always brings you to the dial tab. It's kinda annoying since I never had that happen to me before on other phones.
Okay, here's the list of issues I'm having with no fix found yet. Hopefully I can get help because this is just NOT okay at all...
Precursor info, I'm using the Leather-backed T-Mobile phone. No I will not take it back, screw the $50 restocking BS, I am willing to RMA it though if this is just a lemon phone. I do have the density changed to 540 via adb and NO that's not causing any issues that I'm aware of at all other than stock launcher app drawer looks FUNKY, haha (I use nova so whatever). I had greenery but that's gone now because that's maybe at fault? I don't even know. I did not have these issues on the Note 4 and I used probably 10-15 different ROMs with no problems. Go to G4 and boom a mess of ****. (Pardon my wordage)
-Keyboard, it's got some MASSIVE lag for the hold space to seek, and for the secondary key functions. I mean MASSIVE HUGE lag.
-Volume throttling, this almost never happens, but occasionally it will get REALLY quiet and the only way to fix that is to restart that app (seems to be if I accidentally hit play during a notification it won't leave the ducking level <-- ducking, not the other word, ducking, haha)
-Equalizer, I was using the CM MaxxAudio (AudioFX) with NO issues then randomly today it's not working over bluetooth (when it was yesterday) so I said "oh well, I'll figure it out" only to now have no EQ whatsoever outside of 1. Poweramp (not device-wide so I don't care about it) and 2. the stock app with stock eq (again, not device-wide so don't want that). Every app I add, nothing, no eq changes, absolutely NOTHING. Uninstalled it all, restarted, blah blah, nothing.
-Headphones plugged in are sometimes seen as a headset and they don't have a mic...starts google and then bye bye voice, don't even try, it's looking for a mic that ain't there.
-Missed touches, just seems to me to be user error, I'm used to Samsung and this is LG, a little bit less Glove friendly so any touches have to be a tad heavier, nothing as bad as some people I've seen.
-Device gets HOT for no reason, it's not doing anything special, music is NOT intensive, this also wrecks my battery life...
-Overmodulation for no reason, by this I mean if you max out the audio guess what, it sounds like crap, now why would that be I wonder? Considering it's not amplifying much (My headphone amp solves that problem, but since audio wants to be a whole world of stupid I'm just really at a loss here)
-Just music in general, like why does nothing work right? I'm at my wits end, I've had it for less than a week and EQ is bad, headphones aren't seen right, volume is a mess, heat is a mess (screen off guys, inside, in air-conditioning, it's not right) apps that eq a phone are just poop, is this the T-Mobile update? Did that kill everything? Is this my device? Is it a lemon? Is this DPI? I've never ever seen that do any of these things, and it hasn't been an issue to anything. Issues started mostly today. (Headphones being seen wrong is periodic and not specific to today). someone help me please, I need an EQ, I need my battery back, and I need my phone to stop freaking out.
Should I factory reset and see if that clears things up? Did greenify kill stuff?
I'm tempted to call LG and get some answers from them. This is just NOT okay with me. LOVE the phone, LOVE LOVE LOVE the camera, but man screw this crap. Not good QC at ALLLL....
My G4 is working fine apart from the odd missed touch. Thats all I can say.
Alcor10 said:
Okay, here's the list of issues I'm having with no fix found yet. Hopefully I can get help because this is just NOT okay at all...
Precursor info, I'm using the Leather-backed T-Mobile phone. No I will not take it back, screw the $50 restocking BS, I am willing to RMA it though if this is just a lemon phone. I do have the density changed to 540 via adb and NO that's not causing any issues that I'm aware of at all other than stock launcher app drawer looks FUNKY, haha (I use nova so whatever). I had greenery but that's gone now because that's maybe at fault? I don't even know. I did not have these issues on the Note 4 and I used probably 10-15 different ROMs with no problems. Go to G4 and boom a mess of ****. (Pardon my wordage)
-Keyboard, it's got some MASSIVE lag for the hold space to seek, and for the secondary key functions. I mean MASSIVE HUGE lag.
-Volume throttling, this almost never happens, but occasionally it will get REALLY quiet and the only way to fix that is to restart that app (seems to be if I accidentally hit play during a notification it won't leave the ducking level <-- ducking, not the other word, ducking, haha)
-Equalizer, I was using the CM MaxxAudio (AudioFX) with NO issues then randomly today it's not working over bluetooth (when it was yesterday) so I said "oh well, I'll figure it out" only to now have no EQ whatsoever outside of 1. Poweramp (not device-wide so I don't care about it) and 2. the stock app with stock eq (again, not device-wide so don't want that). Every app I add, nothing, no eq changes, absolutely NOTHING. Uninstalled it all, restarted, blah blah, nothing.
-Headphones plugged in are sometimes seen as a headset and they don't have a mic...starts google and then bye bye voice, don't even try, it's looking for a mic that ain't there.
-Missed touches, just seems to me to be user error, I'm used to Samsung and this is LG, a little bit less Glove friendly so any touches have to be a tad heavier, nothing as bad as some people I've seen.
-Device gets HOT for no reason, it's not doing anything special, music is NOT intensive, this also wrecks my battery life...
-Overmodulation for no reason, by this I mean if you max out the audio guess what, it sounds like crap, now why would that be I wonder? Considering it's not amplifying much (My headphone amp solves that problem, but since audio wants to be a whole world of stupid I'm just really at a loss here)
-Just music in general, like why does nothing work right? I'm at my wits end, I've had it for less than a week and EQ is bad, headphones aren't seen right, volume is a mess, heat is a mess (screen off guys, inside, in air-conditioning, it's not right) apps that eq a phone are just poop, is this the T-Mobile update? Did that kill everything? Is this my device? Is it a lemon? Is this DPI? I've never ever seen that do any of these things, and it hasn't been an issue to anything. Issues started mostly today. (Headphones being seen wrong is periodic and not specific to today). someone help me please, I need an EQ, I need my battery back, and I need my phone to stop freaking out.
Should I factory reset and see if that clears things up? Did greenify kill stuff?
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Probably a lemon, don't have any of those issues especially all at once
Sent from my G4 using your mom
Dennisg34 said:
Probably a lemon, don't have any of those issues especially all at once
Sent from my G4 using your mom
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Well that's just beautiful, will try a reset and see if that helps, otherwise it's time to call T-Mobile/LG
Also got the TMO version with brown leather yesterday. I hear you on the heat issues and it slaughtering the battery, and some missed touches... but not experiencing any of the other issues listed yet...
I'd try a reset. Also, is this an upgrade ( jump or regular upgrade on EIP ) or a new line or did you just buy it outright ? Asking because, other than buying it outright, there shouldn't be a restock fee to exchange within the first 14 days.
T-mobile always charges a restocking fee unless it is an exchange because of a build issue. Coming from Sprint (left them a year ago), that was always disturbing about T-mobile. Sprint had a 30 day return w/o restocking fee, then went to 14 days, and then back up to 30 days.
The only issue I've had was overheating. My phone got really hot doing mundane things and that caused the battery to suffer. I got a replacement from TMO and so far (only been a day), no issues with overheating. But I will have to put it through it's paces over the next few days.
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T-mobile always charges a restocking fee unless it is an exchange because of a build issue. Coming from Sprint (left them a year ago), that was always disturbing about T-mobile. Sprint had a 30 day return w/o restocking fee, then went to 14 days, and then back up to 30 days.
The only issue I've had was overheating. My phone got really hot doing mundane things and that caused the battery to suffer. I got a replacement from TMO and so far (only been a day), no issues with overheating. But I will have to put it through it's paces over the next few days.
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So, did they charge you a re-stock fee ? And did you get another G4 as replacement or a completely different device ?
NO restock fee and yes, I got another G4.
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NO restock fee and yes, I got another G4.
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If I may, what was wrong with the first G4 ? And, is the replacement any better/worse/same ?
Equalizer Im pretty bummed about not able to have a system-wide Equalizer...tried many ..but to no avail.:crying: God I cant wait for root to install a good DSP manager...let me know if you find a working solution to this issue without root.
Keyboard..i find it pretty responsive except for the damn spacebar lag...got to constantly watch what Im writing to ensure proper spacing...hope its resolved by LG
Volume throttling...totally agree..I can see the volume throttle itself back in the status notification...too many times for my liking.
Battery...phone is actually running good and battery is good. Im using a quick charging adapter and the phone gets pretty hot while charging ..im not sure if its gonna wreck/fry my battery as there is no quick charge confirmation from the system..even though LG says its officially supported...
Touch response. I find it ok, like you, except for a few missed touches...notably at double tap to turn on device..sometimes i feel like the upper half of the screen is more responsive to DT2W than the lower half. A bit annoying when I need to access the phone quickly.
Build quality. Not too bad. Device is easy to hold and light. But I have notices that there is creaking of my back cover around the USB port. It almost feels like the back cover isn't secured properly there (not sure if its just my back cover as I don't have any other to try)
Apart from these issues.....loving it.
This phone (downgrade) is going back today. LG screw up this phone.
Alcor10 said:
Okay, here's the list of issues I'm having with no fix found yet. Hopefully I can get help because this is just NOT okay at all...
Precursor info, I'm using the Leather-backed T-Mobile phone. No I will not take it back, screw the $50 restocking BS, I am willing to RMA it though if this is just a lemon phone. I do have the density changed to 540 via adb and NO that's not causing any issues that I'm aware of at all other than stock launcher app drawer looks FUNKY, haha (I use nova so whatever). I had greenery but that's gone now because that's maybe at fault? I don't even know. I did not have these issues on the Note 4 and I used probably 10-15 different ROMs with no problems. Go to G4 and boom a mess of ****. (Pardon my wordage)
-Keyboard, it's got some MASSIVE lag for the hold space to seek, and for the secondary key functions. I mean MASSIVE HUGE lag.
-Volume throttling, this almost never happens, but occasionally it will get REALLY quiet and the only way to fix that is to restart that app (seems to be if I accidentally hit play during a notification it won't leave the ducking level <-- ducking, not the other word, ducking, haha)
-Equalizer, I was using the CM MaxxAudio (AudioFX) with NO issues then randomly today it's not working over bluetooth (when it was yesterday) so I said "oh well, I'll figure it out" only to now have no EQ whatsoever outside of 1. Poweramp (not device-wide so I don't care about it) and 2. the stock app with stock eq (again, not device-wide so don't want that). Every app I add, nothing, no eq changes, absolutely NOTHING. Uninstalled it all, restarted, blah blah, nothing.
-Headphones plugged in are sometimes seen as a headset and they don't have a mic...starts google and then bye bye voice, don't even try, it's looking for a mic that ain't there.
-Missed touches, just seems to me to be user error, I'm used to Samsung and this is LG, a little bit less Glove friendly so any touches have to be a tad heavier, nothing as bad as some people I've seen.
-Device gets HOT for no reason, it's not doing anything special, music is NOT intensive, this also wrecks my battery life...
-Overmodulation for no reason, by this I mean if you max out the audio guess what, it sounds like crap, now why would that be I wonder? Considering it's not amplifying much (My headphone amp solves that problem, but since audio wants to be a whole world of stupid I'm just really at a loss here)
-Just music in general, like why does nothing work right? I'm at my wits end, I've had it for less than a week and EQ is bad, headphones aren't seen right, volume is a mess, heat is a mess (screen off guys, inside, in air-conditioning, it's not right) apps that eq a phone are just poop, is this the T-Mobile update? Did that kill everything? Is this my device? Is it a lemon? Is this DPI? I've never ever seen that do any of these things, and it hasn't been an issue to anything. Issues started mostly today. (Headphones being seen wrong is periodic and not specific to today). someone help me please, I need an EQ, I need my battery back, and I need my phone to stop freaking out.
Should I factory reset and see if that clears things up? Did greenify kill stuff?
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Return it to T-Mobile for another - what are you waiting for? You gotta have a bad one. The system wide EQ is a different issue, and for better or worse it's supposed to be handled by the app. You try another pair of headphones. Some headphones don't play nice, both 3 and 4 pole.
I'm very strongly considering returning mine for a Galaxy S6. The wifi issue alone is infuriating. The touchscreen issue isn't as frustrating as the wifi, but that is definitely a problem too. I have six more days under AT&T's return policy. If a fix isn't found by then, it's gone.
This was my first LG phone, having been a Samsung fan for years. Sadly, they have me questioning that decision to switch. Very disappointing, LG.
M5Rahul said:
If I may, what was wrong with the first G4 ? And, is the replacement any better/worse/same ?
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The phone got incredibly hot >107F doing mundane things like listening to tune-in radio or making a phone call. So far the replacement is much better, but it also updated when I turned it on, so not sure if the update fixed it or the new phone. I'm definitely getting better battery life on the new phone/new update as a cooler battery operates better.
As far as the audio getting quite when you start music or skip tracks during a notification that's not new. It's dependent on the app. Ie Pandora has always done this to me even in nexus 4/5.
the more I use it the more bugs I discover. setting do not stick, that is for sure. wifi goes to sleep, although I selected the option to keep it on when screen off. screen sleeps although I selected the option to never let it go to sleep. camera keeps asking for location although I keep clicking no. Brightness goes to maximum when I reboot the phone, although it was in auto before rebooting it. many annoying things lile that.
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Eric618 said:
I'm very strongly considering returning mine for a Galaxy S6. The wifi issue alone is infuriating. The touchscreen issue isn't as frustrating as the wifi, but that is definitely a problem too. I have six more days under AT&T's return policy. If a fix isn't found by then, it's gone.
This was my first LG phone, having been a Samsung fan for years. Sadly, they have me questioning that decision to switch. Very disappointing, LG.
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if you are ATT or you guys can switch get the samsung GS6 Active 3500 battery*, beautiful beautiful... me too LG first let me DOWN. I have the SG6 Active Wow.:good:
finanandroid said:
if you are ATT or you guys can switch get the samsung GS6 Active 3500 battery*, beautiful beautiful... me too LG first let me DOWN. I have the SG6 Active Wow.:good:
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Wow. I didn't even realize the Active was released yet. I'll have to go check it out in person. Thanks!
finanandroid said:
if you are ATT or you guys can switch get the samsung GS6 Active 3500 battery*, beautiful beautiful... me too LG first let me DOWN. I have the SG6 Active Wow.:good:
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You forgot that the s6 active is ugly as sin. I have no issues with my g4. Sorry you guys are.
I have had this phone a total of 3 days. I am coming from a iPhone 6 and previously had a Galaxy s4 and 5 before this.
This phone is annoying me. Its sad because its so beautiful and if it functioned normally, we wouldn't have a problem. Sometimes I want to throw this thing across the room.
Someone please help me with these issues. I rely on wifi and wifi calling.
Issue 1: When I am home and connected to wifi and wifi calling, my messages and alerts do not come to me when I leave the phone down for a while and it goes to sleep. I will pick my phone up and suddenly I will get all my text messages and alerts. Wifi sleeping is on NEVER already. My iPhone never had this issue, nor did the previous samsung phones.
Issue 2: When I leave my house, the internet connection does not work all the time. Today I left my house and drove somewhere and needed to use my gps. I had full LTE service, and it was telling me I am not connected. This also happened with my apps that also did not work because it was acting as if I was not connected. Issue was fixed with a phone restart. I do not want to restart my phone everytime I leave wifi.
Issue 3: MMS does not receive or send on wifi. I had this issue with prior galaxy, but I am shocked this still has not been adressed.
I also keep LTE voice OFF because like with other phones that have VOLTE, for some reason it just does not work that well. I am in NYC so its not a reception thing.
Those are my MAIN issues and would like some help with them.
The only other thing apple has samsung beat on is that with headphones connected, the apple blows away the samsung in terms of volume and sound quality. Its sad because I have expensive headphones that I would love to use all the time, so I guess I will have to buy an iPod touch when and if I sell the iPhone
Also the screen is very sensitive. I see myself accidentally opening apps when all I want to do is swipe across my menu screens. Not to mention it keeps telling me that hangouts stopped working, when I have it disabled already!
I am stock btw. Latest version, and battery has been good surprisingly. I do not want to root
Anyway, thanks everyone and please help and address the top two issues
Turning Wifi calling off will help drastically with those issues have you tried it without yet?
NexVision said:
Turning Wifi calling off will help drastically with those issues have you tried it without yet?
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As I said, I rely on wifi and wifi calling. I live in a basement apartment with zero service. Who would buy a phone that is almost 1000 dollars, and have to turn off services you pay for to make it work the right way? There is no way wifi could be turned off while I am home
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As I said, I rely on wifi and wifi calling. I live in a basement apartment with zero service. Who would buy a phone that is almost 1000 dollars, and have to turn off services you pay for to make it work the right way? There is no way wifi could be turned off while I am home
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Try doing a factory wipe, that usually solves issues like that.
Factory reset a brand new phone? Sweet.
Contact your carrier and request a signal booster, no charge to you. Then you can rely on data instead of wifi. Also start a complaint ticket for the phone, after a while they will send you to tmobile store and replace phone. Maybe it's buggy, maybe it's not.
But if you really have to throw it I'll come over and catch it.
Our phones must be total opposites because this is the best Samsung phone I have had, this makes # 4, Captivate, GS2, SG4 and now the S6e.
But you never know, visit the Tmobile store, remember that you have 14 days to be totally satisfied, that means replacement with another NEW phone if necessary.
Pp.
I know your pain. The fact that you're on t-mobile for wifi calling and this garbage device just not cutting it huh. I had almost all flagship samsung phone and this one right here is the most frustrating and expensive one of all. This device out of box is just terrible. Memory management, wifi issues, battery leak, FC left and right is just what I experience. Honestly this phone is making me understand why apple is better. Not because the people are stupid. But because they don't deal with half of the broken process we do here in Android. Yea I agree apple is like 2 years behind android but wtf. Now with Jump on demand I am thinking to make the switch to Apple or continue to toss my phone on the table when upset that the device once again is not responding. But lesson learned. Not jumping on new Android devices on release. This phone is a testament why.
Actually the phone works great right now. Maybe it needed a few days to become normal. Battery life is better then my iPhone 6. The text issue seems to ha e gone away. I still from time to time have the issue of leaving my house from WiFi and the phone acting like it has no connection, which requires a restart. I wonder what is causing that. Overall I'm happy with this device.
I can relate to you on T-Mobile LTE, and the screen. Although the reason the accidental app opening while swiping I think was happening because my hand was touching the side of the edge screen. Hold the phone differently or put a case on it and will notice this issue is decreased or gone completely.
There is still a screen issue with this phone and I've noticed it when typing out a fast message. Touch inputs do not register sometimes. That issue has some what been resolved with the case and my hand not being on the edge, but the issue is still there. My Note 3's screen is so much better in regards to accuracy and sensitivity.
For a $1000 phone, this thing should be close to flawless but it does have quite a few flaws, especially with Touchwiz and crappy lollipop. My main issue with TW is the way it manages memory. I just wanna throw this phone at the wall and stomp on it. I'll be in Chrome, go to reply to a text and make a note in Google keep, or whatever, come back to Chrome and it reloading the page I was just viewing a minute ago. So damn frustrating.
I haven't really been on XDA as much as I have in the past, but what ROMs can we flash for this phone because from the looks of it, the dev forum is a ghost town.
In regards to T-Mobile's crud network, just switch your phone into airplane mode, then off, a lot faster than rebooting the phone. This issue I've noticed only happens with LTE, what I do is just go to network settings and switch to WCDMA ONLY, which turns off LTE and connects to HSPA only, which is more reliable and FASTER in my area. Hope I helped someone out there cause I just typed this all on my S6 Edge.
Don't get me wrong, I love this damn phone and wouldn't trade it for any other phone, but better believe I'm gonna swap it out for the Note 5.
This phone has fantastic hardware and the worst software of any phone I've ever owned. I can make compressed twrp backups in like 10 minutes. The screen is the prettiest I've ever seen. The fingerprint reader is very good. The camera is damned fantastic. The software is a pile of dog ****. Samsung should be ashamed. They should be ashamed because I just bought a heavily discounted Fire Phone and loading CM11 on it because I just can't take this crappy phone any longer. I'll check back in on the next update to see if things have improved. Until then I'll be using a phone that cost around 4.5 times less and will somehow perform better.
Funny thing is I have to reboot it if that problem ever happens. Airplane mode doesn't reset it. Weird
Going to have to disagree politely with the OP on headphone output quality. I too have an iPhone 6 and while yes, it has more volume, they both have enough volume to drive proper headphones and I find the output on the S6 to be extremely clean and more lively than the iPhone 6 output. Check GSMArena's review and notice they say it has the cleanest output of any smartphone they've tested thanks to the onboard Wolfson DAC. To each their own with sound quality, but I find the S6 to be extremely good, especially after the 5.1.1 update.
-Collin-
CollinFX45 said:
Going to have to disagree politely with the OP...
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Nonsense! That sort of behavior is not allowed here!
Yeah nothing wrong with disagreeing. In my opinion it's much lower then the iPhone 6. It went from being fun to listen to music on my vmoda m100s to me wishing I could make it louder on my gs6. Also affected the quality in my car via Bluetooth. Much lower output. I guess every one has their preference