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Desire (Bravo) - HTC Shipped Android 2.3 - Let's unlock the bootloader

Hi,
a few days ago, HTC released a developer version of Android 2.3 for the Desire on
http://developer.htc.com (they changed the developer web site now and maybe it isn't available any longer).
Fact is: Everyone who installed this ROM is currently unable to root it or downgrade it again because HTC added a new locked bootloader.
This thread is ment to work together to find ideas how to unlock the bootloader again.
It's known that HTC announces the official bootloader unlocking for all devices already. But nobody knows for sure, how long this will take and I bet here are a lot of people who don't want to just do nothing and wait for HTC to release it.
So, let's begin. Maybe there are also some advanced members who can support us.
At first the questions:
- How is the bootloader lock implemented (does it just have write protection or is there encryption involved)?
- How were bootloaders unlocked in the past?
And last: Even if we don't get far, it's worth a try! And we will gain important experiences. I personally love this.

I like the idea. How about xtc clip? Would it work with this boot? Or maybe we can write a petition to htc or do the while fb thing when they changed their mind and get us gungerbread. U would not mind even paying to get it unlocked.
Im sure if all of us donated to alpharev or unrevoked and get them to start working on it asap its possible?
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Why not wait for either alpharev or unrevoked or both of them to release something. They do support out device so I don't see why they wouldn't try to find a way to unlock the new hboot.

I spoke to htc support and by looks of things our device is not on their list for unloocking bootloader, so we might not be lucky.
I guess wait for alpharev or unrevoked to come up with something.
So no one knows if xtc clip would work
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s3rvus said:
Hi,
a few days ago, HTC released a developer version of Android 2.3 for the Desire on
http://developer.htc.com (they changed the developer web site now and maybe it isn't available any longer).
Fact is: Everyone who installed this ROM is currently unable to root it or downgrade it again because HTC added a new locked bootloader.
This thread is ment to work together to find ideas how to unlock the bootloader again.
It's known that HTC announces the official bootloader unlocking for all devices already. But nobody knows for sure, how long this will take and I bet here are a lot of people who don't want to just do nothing and wait for HTC to release it.
So, let's begin. Maybe there are also some advanced members who can support us.
At first the questions:
- How is the bootloader lock implemented (does it just have write protection or is there encryption involved)?
- How were bootloaders unlocked in the past?
And last: Even if we don't get far, it's worth a try! And we will gain important experiences. I personally love this.
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The update is still available. They have just changed the webpage.
It on the same page as source code downloads
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I find it both amusing and frustrating that they have included a new hboot and yet now say it isn't even on their list of supported 'unlockable bootloaders' from their new htcdev site???

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Lothaen said:
I find it both amusing and frustrating that they have included a new hboot and yet now say it isn't even on their list of supported 'unlockable bootloaders' from their new htcdev site???
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+1 on this. Its simply against theyr policy they decide to unlock bootloaders and then they release a new hboot and even developer one and baam LOCKED

+1
alpharev + unrevoked >
http://revolutionary.io/
hope they achieve solution on this soon
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Apperantly htc service centre can downgrade for free
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Meaple said:
Why not wait for either alpharev or unrevoked or both of them to release something. They do support out device so I don't see why they wouldn't try to find a way to unlock the new hboot.
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Same thought.

Getting htc to unlock it would be much better than hacks imo.
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08r3308 said:
Apperantly htc service centre can downgrade for free
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Can you give source, please?

Check with customer service / book it in , depending who does it in your country/state.
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This page has an upcoming link to download a boot loader unlocker from hTC.
I would find it rather surprising if they have made an exception in this program for just the Desire. Why would they?

Not from that page but go to your htc repair centre and they will downgrade. Im waiting on confirmation from the repair centre
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Lothaen said:
I find it both amusing and frustrating that they have included a new hboot and yet now say it isn't even on their list of supported 'unlockable bootloaders' from their new htcdev site???
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Maybe htc thought like this: "do you people want so much the gingerbread update? Ok you will get the update but, as you wish so much it, you can't go back to froyo anymore! F** you and ur gingerbread update and go buy some new htc devices"
Regarding the bootloader there is a team that create super locked bootloaders, a team that is creating the web tool to unlock it, and the htc head boss that say "htc sensation? ok super blocked bootloaders and possibility to unlock it via web, htc desire? hm ok only super locked bootloaders, we don't need spend to much resources for an older device, .."
Just kidding..But htc should really change its politic!

andQlimax said:
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we don't need spend to much resources for an older device, .."
Just kidding..But htc should really change its politic!
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I can't really see how letting the desire get unlocked by the tool is “spending resources”, rather is it spending resources to omit a phone model, from what I understand.
Even more strange would be if htc pays good money to the service centers (here in Sweden at least this is third party, and not htc firms) to unlock boot loaders if they could have a web tool do it!

gerhard_wa said:
I can't really see how letting the desire get unlocked by the tool is “spending resources”, rather is it spending resources to omit a phone model, from what I understand.
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Well, every device is little different, have a different bootloader, different versions...That mean more people have to work to create, test, document it..In addition they will have a lot of people that will have problems doing it, so much work for the customer service again only for an older device (from their point of view)..Of course not only htc is like this, every producer want you to buy their new device..

andQlimax said:
Well, every device is little different, have a different bootloader, different versions...That mean more people have to work to create, test, document it..In addition they will have a lot of people that will have problems doing it, so much work for the customer service again only for an older device (from their point of view)..Of course not only htc is like this, every producer want you to buy their new device..
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I am quite convinced that the boot loader lock is pretty much the same for all devices and they just have to include (or exclude) the spec for all models.
They do not have to hack it, after all, they have written the source code themselves!

ok
so, can anyone confirm that unrevoked or any other group is working on it?

If we get unlocked bootloader we can flash HBOOT making s-off

Hello WFS Users!
Could we atlease get a ETA of the s-off. I'm hoping till Christmas :3 Should we complain to HTC also stating its nearly Christmas. If we could get a unlocked bootloader, we can flash radio-type of expliot via recovery or fastboot so we can get s-off and also progress on more ROMS (which I'm hoping to do.) But HTC will never UNLOCK BOOTLOADER.
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XDA_h3n said:
Could we atlease get a ETA of the s-off. I'm hoping till Christmas
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2012?
2013?
Sent from HTC

No.12 said:
2012?
2013?
Sent from HTC
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Naaaa! 3007!! HTC don't give the sh*t!

Jesus Christ, how many times ?
Seriously, this is 1000th thread about stupid S-OFF, it's okey, I want it too, but I ddidn't open a new thread.
There's already enough threads about it.
No wonder why we were in legacy.

And if people insist in creating garbage we'll end up legacy again...
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s-off = unlocked bootloarer
The title makes little sense to me. If we unlock the bootloader... STOP right there. You have s-off when you unlock bootloader. Flashing a hboot [a new bootloader] is quite risky. Better have your RUU on stand-by and realize there is a real possibility of bricking your device. Of all the things I've flashed, hboot is by far the riskiest. Just thought I'd warn you. It's not a rom, it's not a radio [which is slightly more risky], its your bootloader. You have a proven eng hboot that will work with A510a,b.c,e and know the risks [yes you can brick your phone with the wrong adb commands if you don't know what you're doing, besides the install risk] ok be my guest. But most end-users don't need the extra adb commands; so, they gain risk with no reward. Just sayin...
Rob
PS ETA on gsm s-off is whenever you feel like borrowing a xtc clip; cdma well same method but hardware not needed.

yea, so i don't see why post this thread

[Q] HTC Official Bootloader unlocker Tool

HTC released a boot loader unlocker tool.
http://htcdev.com/bootloader/
Have any one tried this?
Edit:
Link to Arstechnica article: http://www.xda-developers.com/android/htc-unlocks-all-its-verizon-and-att-bootloaders/
Its aparently for ATT and Verizon phones: http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/news/2011/12/htc-has-released-a-tool.ars
Edit 2: It seems it does not work on our phones...: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=20812409#post20812409

This is a long time, but not working with any version of wildfire s hboots.
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Did you try it? People are reporting it to work for phones that are not listed in the website.

to be very clear.....the wildfire s doesn't support "fastboot oem" commands.....which are needed for the official method....so IT WON'T WORK

csoulr666 said:
to be very clear.....the wildfire s doesn't support "fastboot oem" commands.....which are needed for the official method....so IT WON'T WORK
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Figured that out reading the WFS Campaign thread as well as other forums... Thanks.
It's just this phone is unusable with all the garbage apps inside. I need to clean it. Otherwise I'll have to spend more money on another phone for my wife...

If it doesn't support fastboot, why it's then part of RUU update pack together with adb ?

The phone supports fastboot.
But the phone does not understand the oem command get_identifier_token for an unique key of the phone. And the bootloader hasn't got one or two lines at the start with the value of unlocked or locked like in the sensation xe.
So htc must give an update for hboot first, but they said, that they don't do it.
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One-click unlock tool for all of the HTC device
this a Chinese software，you just connect your phone to computer and open the software，and click the unlock button。wait for the phone give you a information about ：do you want to update？，and the choose yes.reboot the system and unlocked your phone.

-.- If you want to collect posts don't revive months old threads please!

ok
Sorry,no problem.

Sign this petition to make a bootloader S-off

Please sign this petition https://www.petitionbuzz.com/petitions/htcbootloader
This petitiion is to ask HTC to make a bootloader unlock tool for the Wildfire S so users can do what they want with the device they bought including using modified boot, recovery and system images. I feel that HTC should not lock there bootloaders at all because once a customer has bought the phone it is no longer HTC's property it belongs to the customer after buying the handset. So please HTC allow use to unlock are bootloaders so we can modifiy are phones the way we want them to be.
This is for the moment only way to unlock the Htc wildfire s .
Thanks

http://t.co/6AnkDOKd
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So,after few months,they finally did it.
Great news.

Unlock botloader but stil S-on
Can t root now ?

ciripian said:
Can t root now ?
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Yes you can root after you unlock the bootloaders , you will be still S-on . Check out the great tuts in
The general section !
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S-off

Hey!
If I unlock my phone now via htcdev, s-on I guess, am I able to make it s-off later via 'custom' procedure?
Thanks for answer
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Your details will be logged with HTC so pointless. If you can wait then best to wait or if you just want to go ahead you can unlock via HTC dev.
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i dont care about my logged details on htcdev.
the main point is that i can be sure that its be possible to make it s-off *after* unlocking with htcdev.

stiffmast3r said:
i dont care about my logged details on htcdev.
the main point is that i can be sure that its be possible to make it s-off *after* unlocking with htcdev.
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Pretty sure it can still be done (going S-OFF) if you "relock" the device through HTC Dev.

oh, i can relock it via htcdev? cool....
i have no experience with htcdev, and have my "HOX" (new name for the one X? saw it sametimes here ) since yesterday.
maybe its better to wait 1 week or 2, but ima flashaholic....
i must do it, I MUST DO IT!!!!!111

stiffmast3r said:
oh, i can relock it via htcdev? cool....
i have no experience with htcdev, and have my "HOX" (new name for the one X? saw it sametimes here ) since yesterday.
maybe its better to wait 1 week or 2, but ima flashaholic....
i must do it, I MUST DO IT!!!!!111
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Yeah I think it's possible. Keep in mind that a "relocked" device is not the same thing as "locked" device. HTC will know that your device has been unlocked and the warranty is still less then with a locked device!

yeah, i think the warranty is not a big problem, i got a "good guy" at a store

Yes but if you want to send the device off to HTC for a warranty repair a year down the line that's where the issue will kick in. Hence making sense to wait for S-OFF. And potentially for resale value a locked bootloader sounds better than a relocked bootloader.
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I've heard HTC don't care if its unlocked. My friend told me as long as your issue isn't from overclocking till it fries or something, they don't care and will take it.
Plus with s-off, you can erase all traces on the phone that it was unlocked. Of course HTC probably still knows since you submitted but I've read and my friends told me HTC don't really care as long as you didn't cause it thru software.
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