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Hi,
a few days ago, HTC released a developer version of Android 2.3 for the Desire on
http://developer.htc.com (they changed the developer web site now and maybe it isn't available any longer).
Fact is: Everyone who installed this ROM is currently unable to root it or downgrade it again because HTC added a new locked bootloader.
This thread is ment to work together to find ideas how to unlock the bootloader again.
It's known that HTC announces the official bootloader unlocking for all devices already. But nobody knows for sure, how long this will take and I bet here are a lot of people who don't want to just do nothing and wait for HTC to release it.
So, let's begin. Maybe there are also some advanced members who can support us.
At first the questions:
- How is the bootloader lock implemented (does it just have write protection or is there encryption involved)?
- How were bootloaders unlocked in the past?
And last: Even if we don't get far, it's worth a try! And we will gain important experiences. I personally love this.
I like the idea. How about xtc clip? Would it work with this boot? Or maybe we can write a petition to htc or do the while fb thing when they changed their mind and get us gungerbread. U would not mind even paying to get it unlocked.
Im sure if all of us donated to alpharev or unrevoked and get them to start working on it asap its possible?
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Why not wait for either alpharev or unrevoked or both of them to release something. They do support out device so I don't see why they wouldn't try to find a way to unlock the new hboot.
I spoke to htc support and by looks of things our device is not on their list for unloocking bootloader, so we might not be lucky.
I guess wait for alpharev or unrevoked to come up with something.
So no one knows if xtc clip would work
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s3rvus said:
Hi,
a few days ago, HTC released a developer version of Android 2.3 for the Desire on
http://developer.htc.com (they changed the developer web site now and maybe it isn't available any longer).
Fact is: Everyone who installed this ROM is currently unable to root it or downgrade it again because HTC added a new locked bootloader.
This thread is ment to work together to find ideas how to unlock the bootloader again.
It's known that HTC announces the official bootloader unlocking for all devices already. But nobody knows for sure, how long this will take and I bet here are a lot of people who don't want to just do nothing and wait for HTC to release it.
So, let's begin. Maybe there are also some advanced members who can support us.
At first the questions:
- How is the bootloader lock implemented (does it just have write protection or is there encryption involved)?
- How were bootloaders unlocked in the past?
And last: Even if we don't get far, it's worth a try! And we will gain important experiences. I personally love this.
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The update is still available. They have just changed the webpage.
It on the same page as source code downloads
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I find it both amusing and frustrating that they have included a new hboot and yet now say it isn't even on their list of supported 'unlockable bootloaders' from their new htcdev site???
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Lothaen said:
I find it both amusing and frustrating that they have included a new hboot and yet now say it isn't even on their list of supported 'unlockable bootloaders' from their new htcdev site???
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+1 on this. Its simply against theyr policy they decide to unlock bootloaders and then they release a new hboot and even developer one and baam LOCKED
+1
alpharev + unrevoked >
http://revolutionary.io/
hope they achieve solution on this soon
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Apperantly htc service centre can downgrade for free
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Meaple said:
Why not wait for either alpharev or unrevoked or both of them to release something. They do support out device so I don't see why they wouldn't try to find a way to unlock the new hboot.
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Same thought.
Getting htc to unlock it would be much better than hacks imo.
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08r3308 said:
Apperantly htc service centre can downgrade for free
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Can you give source, please?
Check with customer service / book it in , depending who does it in your country/state.
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This page has an upcoming link to download a boot loader unlocker from hTC.
I would find it rather surprising if they have made an exception in this program for just the Desire. Why would they?
Not from that page but go to your htc repair centre and they will downgrade. Im waiting on confirmation from the repair centre
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Lothaen said:
I find it both amusing and frustrating that they have included a new hboot and yet now say it isn't even on their list of supported 'unlockable bootloaders' from their new htcdev site???
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Maybe htc thought like this: "do you people want so much the gingerbread update? Ok you will get the update but, as you wish so much it, you can't go back to froyo anymore! F** you and ur gingerbread update and go buy some new htc devices"
Regarding the bootloader there is a team that create super locked bootloaders, a team that is creating the web tool to unlock it, and the htc head boss that say "htc sensation? ok super blocked bootloaders and possibility to unlock it via web, htc desire? hm ok only super locked bootloaders, we don't need spend to much resources for an older device, .."
Just kidding..But htc should really change its politic!
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we don't need spend to much resources for an older device, .."
Just kidding..But htc should really change its politic!
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I can't really see how letting the desire get unlocked by the tool is “spending resources”, rather is it spending resources to omit a phone model, from what I understand.
Even more strange would be if htc pays good money to the service centers (here in Sweden at least this is third party, and not htc firms) to unlock boot loaders if they could have a web tool do it!
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I can't really see how letting the desire get unlocked by the tool is “spending resources”, rather is it spending resources to omit a phone model, from what I understand.
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Well, every device is little different, have a different bootloader, different versions...That mean more people have to work to create, test, document it..In addition they will have a lot of people that will have problems doing it, so much work for the customer service again only for an older device (from their point of view)..Of course not only htc is like this, every producer want you to buy their new device..
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Well, every device is little different, have a different bootloader, different versions...That mean more people have to work to create, test, document it..In addition they will have a lot of people that will have problems doing it, so much work for the customer service again only for an older device (from their point of view)..Of course not only htc is like this, every producer want you to buy their new device..
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I am quite convinced that the boot loader lock is pretty much the same for all devices and they just have to include (or exclude) the spec for all models.
They do not have to hack it, after all, they have written the source code themselves!
ok
so, can anyone confirm that unrevoked or any other group is working on it?
The Wildfire S is now supported on HTC-Dev for bootloader unlocking. They seem to've recently added a bunch of devices "launched prior to September 2011" to the list of supported devices, which includes the Wildfire S. There's now a drop-down box instead of just a list of supported devices.
You have to apply an RUU if you're not running a certain software version to use this tool because it requires a specific HBOOT. Remember to backup your info/etc.
I'm hoping they add the Chacha to the list of supported devices soon, as we're still in the Legacy & Low Activity section
Is it true? Because another thread discust about HTC didn unlocked it
I will give it a Try. Btw I'm new here. I will edit this post as far it's done.
//Edit: It's done. Looked in Hboot and it say above all "***LOCKED (oow) ***"
just tested.
not only is is still s-on after this, but there is a big pink ote at the top of the bootscreen that says "*** LOCKED (OOW) ***"
no idea what this means :s
Woah, what?
Could you take a picture of it?
I'm curious how it looks.
did you updated rom before s-off?
Cold Ice said:
I will give it a Try. Btw I'm new here. I will edit this post as far it's done.
//Edit: It's done. Looked in Hboot and it say above all "***LOCKED (oow) ***"
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Gloris said:
just tested.
not only is is still s-on after this, but there is a big pink ote at the top of the bootscreen that says "*** LOCKED (OOW) ***"
no idea what this means :s
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Did you two go through with the whole procedure, or just applied the RUU?
EDIT: From what I've read, after you've gone through with the full procedure, that pink text should say UNLOCKED. You will still be S-ON, however the boot (kernel), recovery and system partitions will no longer be protected.
Gloris said:
just tested.
not only is is still s-on after this, but there is a big pink ote at the top of the bootscreen that says "*** LOCKED (OOW) ***"
no idea what this means :s
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I'm wondering if this also patches the XTC-Clip exploit.
Anyone tried the clip on a post sept phone?
Wondering if they've patched the exploit for all HTC phones.
I forgot to do the whole procedure, i will give it a new try. I will come back and say if it works.
What is the actual difference among S-OFF and unlocked bootloader ?
Going to try this later lol
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Nightshadow931 said:
What is the actual difference among S-OFF and unlocked bootloader ?
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S-OFF means that there are zero restrictions on what you can modify/flash - ie. you can flash radios and bootloaders.
HTC's method of unlocking only allows you to flash kernels (/boot), recoveries (/recovery) and ROMs (/system)
d33ps1x said:
I'm wondering if this also patches the XTC-Clip exploit.
Anyone tried the clip on a post sept phone?
Wondering if they've patched the exploit for all HTC phones.
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I don't think they can patch a hardware exploit without redesigning the hardware.
Edit: what we should try now is 'htc-unlock' a phone, then try to xtc-clip it to see if it still possible. But I still don't think they can patch out the clip.
Desire-Oxygen2.3.2 | WFS-stock
So, it's done and it's Unlocked!
Wow wow, Cold Ice! Can you guide how to do it? step by step? please! Or give some screen shoots
yups, i didn't realise there was more to the process than updating the ruu....just completed the process, and now it says unlocked, but it's still s-ON?
so what now? can i now put custom roms on to make the most of the limited memory, or do i need to s-off still first?
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Gloris said:
yups, i didn't realise there was more to the process than updating the ruu....just completed the process, and now it says unlocked, but it's still s-ON?
so what now? can i now put custom roms on to make the most of the limited memory, or do i need to s-off still first?
confused.com
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You can still flash ROMs, you just can't flash radios and bootloaders
eoghan2t7 said:
Going to try this later lol
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I'm not! LOL
Either way this is a great step forward for our little phone that could. Someone break out the sparkling wine. Save the champagne for S-OFF though.
Will this allow users to run CWM scripts to resize partitions or would that be locked down still?
Hi to all!
Few days ago, HTC released the unlock bootloader tool for HTC Desire also (and for other smartphone) HTCdev - Unlock Bootloader. So I tryed to follow the guide. The first step is intended to upgrade the HBOOT, so I have to connect the device to the computer, to download a RUU from a list on my computer and to execute it. But when my device automatically reboot (this is the procedure) I get and error that says "model id error"! (I have a MIUI Rom)
I write from Italy so I downloaded HTC Europe RUU (my device is not branded). Which one I have to try?
Is there anyone that tryed this procedure? Anyone can help me?
Thanks in advance.
Francesco.
P.S.: my device hboot detail
Bravo PVT1 ship s-on
HBoot-0.93.0001
Microp-031d
Touch Panel-synt0101
Radio 5.09.05.30-2
Same here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1431726
Did you run APTG or CT?
Both, but without success
same here, spent a few hours with no joy
Just use revolutionary.io
With revolutionary you don't loose warranty and have full bootloader unlocked.
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Please use the Q&A Forum for questions Thanks
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andQlimax said:
Just use revolutionary.io
With revolutionary you don't loose warranty and have full bootloader unlocked.
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Thanks for the suggestion but I don't want just to unlock the bootloader but unlock the bootloader with HTC rules and tools.
Thanks.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=21119888&postcount=5
There is no point in unlocking bootloader with HTC's tools, unless you wish to use Htc's own crappy recovery to flash a custom rom..
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Excellent...what we have here are some nice fat guinea pigs!
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fat guinea pigs??? Excellent... we have an idiot! (also I add a "wink" so we are all happy, ok?).
Droidzone said:
There is no point in unlocking bootloader with HTC's tools, unless you wish to use Htc's own crappy recovery to flash a custom rom..
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The point is that I want to try, to test, I'm curious to unlock my bootloader with HTC tools! And not simply unlock the bootloader! So, now, I have a problem. Can you help me? No? So, do not offend and make your businness!
Thanks.
Guineapig was a figure of speech, no offense meant. A guineapig is the commonest lab animal subjected to scientific experiments. If you feel that was offensive, I do apologize profusely.
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Guineapig was a figure of speech, no offense meant. A guineapig is the commonest lab animal subjected to scientific experiments. If you feel that was offensive, I do apologize profusely.
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Ok, apologize me too... it's difficult to understand a "figure of speech"...
So, I just tryed a new RUU from htcdev. They have upgraded the HTC EU one, but I get an error that says that I need to upgrade the ROM to 2.29.405.14.
I think that it's impossibile for me because I have a MIUI ROM, right?
Anyone tested it?
If you're bent on trying the unlocker, the first thing to do is unroot. Keep your goldcard ready, and run the RUU. After unrooting with whatever RUU you chose, select the same RUU from their choice (this is a tentative advice).
Word of caution: They're saying Hboot upgrade required. If that's true, be warned that you will never be able to run an Alpharev/Revolutionary S-off until they update their method to include this.
Hey!
If I unlock my phone now via htcdev, s-on I guess, am I able to make it s-off later via 'custom' procedure?
Thanks for answer
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Your details will be logged with HTC so pointless. If you can wait then best to wait or if you just want to go ahead you can unlock via HTC dev.
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i dont care about my logged details on htcdev.
the main point is that i can be sure that its be possible to make it s-off *after* unlocking with htcdev.
stiffmast3r said:
i dont care about my logged details on htcdev.
the main point is that i can be sure that its be possible to make it s-off *after* unlocking with htcdev.
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Pretty sure it can still be done (going S-OFF) if you "relock" the device through HTC Dev.
oh, i can relock it via htcdev? cool....
i have no experience with htcdev, and have my "HOX" (new name for the one X? saw it sametimes here ) since yesterday.
maybe its better to wait 1 week or 2, but ima flashaholic....
i must do it, I MUST DO IT!!!!!111
stiffmast3r said:
oh, i can relock it via htcdev? cool....
i have no experience with htcdev, and have my "HOX" (new name for the one X? saw it sametimes here ) since yesterday.
maybe its better to wait 1 week or 2, but ima flashaholic....
i must do it, I MUST DO IT!!!!!111
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Yeah I think it's possible. Keep in mind that a "relocked" device is not the same thing as "locked" device. HTC will know that your device has been unlocked and the warranty is still less then with a locked device!
yeah, i think the warranty is not a big problem, i got a "good guy" at a store
Yes but if you want to send the device off to HTC for a warranty repair a year down the line that's where the issue will kick in. Hence making sense to wait for S-OFF. And potentially for resale value a locked bootloader sounds better than a relocked bootloader.
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I've heard HTC don't care if its unlocked. My friend told me as long as your issue isn't from overclocking till it fries or something, they don't care and will take it.
Plus with s-off, you can erase all traces on the phone that it was unlocked. Of course HTC probably still knows since you submitted but I've read and my friends told me HTC don't really care as long as you didn't cause it thru software.
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Hi everyone i googled a lot about s-off for htc one v, but there is no normal info how to do that... so there is now way to do that or i dont know something?
The one V can't get s-off indeed.
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So without setting up s-off i cant change cid?
lars1216 said:
The one V can't get s-off indeed.
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nutonas said:
So without setting up s-off i cant change cid?
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no u can't
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s-off
nutonas said:
Hi everyone i googled a lot about s-off for htc one v, but there is no normal info how to do that... so there is now way to do that or i dont know something?
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There are only hardware solutions [which don't make a lot of sense for a common end user]. lg(e) tool & riff box both offer methods for s-off on gsm one v. A local repair shop might have one of these tools. I have a riff box, but that doesn't do many ppl very good. No soft-unlock; I agree with previous posters there.
Can you post the pic sir? Cuz i dont hear any of that b4
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danishaznita said:
Can you post the pic sir? Cuz i dont hear any of that b4
sent from my katana
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Sure, as soon as I get cdma support for same.. I carry a Virgin Mobile [as of today].
The sticky part is you have to have a jtag tool.. found out medusa box also supports htc one v. Then, possibly even more sticky, you have to disassemble your phone and use testpoint to disable your emmc. Lots of people have totally screwed their phones not following that hairy step.. The rest is quite easy should you have and read your respective jtag support literature.
Rob
I don't think people will be willing to dissemble their phones for s-off
What i mean to say that its too risky
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aashukmehta said:
I don't think people will be willing to dissemble their phones for s-off
What i mean to say that its too risky
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I totally agree with you. S-OFF really is not needed unless you're a true developer. And by that I mean, unless you are wanting to look at and tweak your bootloader and/or radio.. why does one even need S-OFF? The HTC unlock should work just fine for 95% or more of the people out there. Those that dare to need more... they'll just have to pay to play [or take that risk].
Regards,
Rob
insink71 said:
I totally agree with you. S-OFF really is not needed unless you're a true developer. And by that I mean, unless you are wanting to look at and tweak your bootloader and/or radio.. why does one even need S-OFF? The HTC unlock should work just fine for 95% or more of the people out there. Those that dare to need more... they'll just have to pay to play [or take that risk].
Regards,
Rob
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CDMA ver should got S-OFF , GSM yet no S-Off yet.
S-OFF is super useful for who want to do custom rom/kernel without breaking the warranty because you can unlock BL without via HTC unlock and lock BL again at anytime when you want to send it back to HTC service centre.
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TheEndHK said:
CDMA ver should got S-OFF , GSM yet no S-Off yet.
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1) GSM is supported T320e PK7610000 by riff box, lg(e) tool, medusa, and possibly others; CDMA is not PK7630000.
S-OFF is super useful for who want to do custom rom/kernel without breaking the warranty because you can unlock BL without via HTC unlock and lock BL again at anytime when you want to send it back to HTC service centre.
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2) S-Off voids your warranty the same as HTC unlock. Talk to anyone who ever used the xtc-clip, and see how easy it is to S-On after S-Off.
You can customize both roms and kernels with HTC unlock. The only restraints are as I mentioned before: your stuck on latest bootloader and radio cannot be tampered with [or switched to another carrier]. That's pretty much it. The differences in a nutshell.
Rob
insink71 said:
1) GSM is supported T320e PK7610000 by riff box, lg(e) tool, medusa, and possibly others; CDMA is not PK7630000.
2) S-Off voids your warranty the same as HTC unlock. Talk to anyone who ever used the xtc-clip, and see how easy it is to S-On after S-Off.
You can customize both roms and kernels with HTC unlock. The only restraints are as I mentioned before: your stuck on latest bootloader and radio cannot be tampered with [or switched to another carrier]. That's pretty much it. The differences in a nutshell.
Rob
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There have been some One Vs that shipped with S-OFF
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MameTozhio said:
There have been some One Vs that shipped with S-OFF
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Companies, including HTC, do make a limited number of S-off devices [typically for qualcomm developers or the carrier development teams]. These have occasionally been shipped out in error to regular customers. It is like finding a golden easter egg though, not typical. In those rare cases HTC might take phone back [to save face since ultimately was a shipping error] but typically s-off will void a warranty. Truthfully though, if you have a s-off device, one would rarely need to utilize warranty. 99% of issues out there can be fixed with software [patches, replacing binaries, kernels, etc.] Only time warranty is needed is when hardware fails; which, hasn't happened to me ever i the many devices I've owned.
Rob
Only hardware faults I've seen with this particular model [HTC One V] are bad/fried emmc chips and/or bad resistor from emmc. These typically come from people that have tried to defeat the emmc write protection [purposefully or unwittingly]. Unfortunately, this is why with these devices test point must be used [which shorts the emmc disabling the write protection] or indeed hardware damage could occur to your device [if your determined to try but attempt to write w/o disabling the write protection]. Do I believe many will actually partially disassemble their phone for s-off? Nope. Will I still work on and publish [safe] method if I can? Yep. Hardware failures on this device are denoted by dropping into qhsusb_dload mode [w/o invoking it properly through test point].
insink71 said:
1) GSM is supported T320e PK7610000 by riff box, lg(e) tool, medusa, and possibly others; CDMA is not PK7630000.
2) S-Off voids your warranty the same as HTC unlock. Talk to anyone who ever used the xtc-clip, and see how easy it is to S-On after S-Off.
You can customize both roms and kernels with HTC unlock. The only restraints are as I mentioned before: your stuck on latest bootloader and radio cannot be tampered with [or switched to another carrier]. That's pretty much it. The differences in a nutshell.
Rob
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I don't know GSM got S-OFF now. Can you give me the link?
However, I don't fully agree S-OFF voids warranty as HTC said the only way to loss warranty is via HTC Lock Website and they can have an official record about you agree to loss the warranty. There are little devices ship with S-OFF. HTC doesn't willing to repair them?
One more stuff about S-OFF. You can flash the rom with kernel together in recovery mode and don't need to flash the kernel via fastboot separately.
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TheEndHK said:
I don't know GSM got S-OFF now. Can you give me the link?
However, I don't fully agree S-OFF voids warranty as HTC said the only way to loss warranty is via HTC Lock Website and they can have an official record about you agree to loss the warranty. There are little devices ship with S-OFF. HTC doesn't willing to repair them?
One more stuff about S-OFF. You can flash the rom with kernel together in recovery mode and don't need to flash the kernel via fastboot separately.
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S-Off used to void warranty.. there used to be [probably still is] a checksum in bootloader.. you call a htc repair shop for rma and they will request you boot the phone to bootloader, run the test, and read them the numbers. That test tells if a device has been tampered with, and in my experience, s-off devices couldn't get RMAs ::shrug::
Ok links are to hardware tools [which cost money] but can s-off gsm devices:
http://www.jtagbox.com/jtag-news/riff-jtag-htc-t320e-htc-primo-unbrick-unlock-supercid-imei-repair-supported/
http://www.lgtool.net/phones/htc.html
http://forum.gsmhosting.com/vbb/f664/medusa-box-v1-7-5-htc-repair-via-usb-added-1639081/
There may be others..
Regards
Rob
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S-Off used to void warranty.. there used to be [probably still is] a checksum in bootloader.. you call a htc repair shop for rma and they will request you boot the phone to bootloader, run the test, and read them the numbers. That test tells if a device has been tampered with, and in my experience, s-off devices couldn't get RMAs ::shrug::
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Thanks for your links.
But with S-OFF, you can remove the tampered status in bootloader.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2357624
I read it here from HTC One. You can even change it back to S-ON before you send it to HTC service center.
tampered flag not the same as checksum test, but yep [once s-off] should be able to remove tampered flag.
Some S-off solutions can S-on; Some cannot. For hope in the matter, always run a full dump [preferably on a clean, factory reset device] before you s-off.
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insink71 said:
tampered flag not the same as checksum test, but yep [once s-off] should be able to remove tampered flag. checksums called image crc in bootloader.
Some S-off solutions can S-on; Some cannot. For hope in the matter, always run a full dump [preferably on a clean, factory reset device] before you s-off.
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so what's the benefits of s-off?
and what''s the difference from s-on and s-off devices?
i just begin to learn all these things
jasperlin1996 said:
so what's the benefits of s-off?
and what''s the difference from s-on and s-off devices?
i just begin to learn all these things
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google is your friend mate.....
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insink71 said:
S-Off used to void warranty.. there used to be [probably still is] a checksum in bootloader.. you call a htc repair shop for rma and they will request you boot the phone to bootloader, run the test, and read them the numbers. That test tells if a device has been tampered with, and in my experience, s-off devices couldn't get RMAs ::shrug::
Ok links are to hardware tools [which cost money] but can s-off gsm devices:
http://www.jtagbox.com/jtag-news/riff-jtag-htc-t320e-htc-primo-unbrick-unlock-supercid-imei-repair-supported/
http://www.lgtool.net/phones/htc.html
http://forum.gsmhosting.com/vbb/f664/medusa-box-v1-7-5-htc-repair-via-usb-added-1639081/
There may be others..
Regards
Rob
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I was told that s-off can easily brick the phone.