Hi,
a few days ago, HTC released a developer version of Android 2.3 for the Desire on
http://developer.htc.com (they changed the developer web site now and maybe it isn't available any longer).
Fact is: Everyone who installed this ROM is currently unable to root it or downgrade it again because HTC added a new locked bootloader.
This thread is ment to work together to find ideas how to unlock the bootloader again.
It's known that HTC announces the official bootloader unlocking for all devices already. But nobody knows for sure, how long this will take and I bet here are a lot of people who don't want to just do nothing and wait for HTC to release it.
So, let's begin. Maybe there are also some advanced members who can support us.
At first the questions:
- How is the bootloader lock implemented (does it just have write protection or is there encryption involved)?
- How were bootloaders unlocked in the past?
And last: Even if we don't get far, it's worth a try! And we will gain important experiences. I personally love this.
I like the idea. How about xtc clip? Would it work with this boot? Or maybe we can write a petition to htc or do the while fb thing when they changed their mind and get us gungerbread. U would not mind even paying to get it unlocked.
Im sure if all of us donated to alpharev or unrevoked and get them to start working on it asap its possible?
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Why not wait for either alpharev or unrevoked or both of them to release something. They do support out device so I don't see why they wouldn't try to find a way to unlock the new hboot.
I spoke to htc support and by looks of things our device is not on their list for unloocking bootloader, so we might not be lucky.
I guess wait for alpharev or unrevoked to come up with something.
So no one knows if xtc clip would work
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s3rvus said:
Hi,
a few days ago, HTC released a developer version of Android 2.3 for the Desire on
http://developer.htc.com (they changed the developer web site now and maybe it isn't available any longer).
Fact is: Everyone who installed this ROM is currently unable to root it or downgrade it again because HTC added a new locked bootloader.
This thread is ment to work together to find ideas how to unlock the bootloader again.
It's known that HTC announces the official bootloader unlocking for all devices already. But nobody knows for sure, how long this will take and I bet here are a lot of people who don't want to just do nothing and wait for HTC to release it.
So, let's begin. Maybe there are also some advanced members who can support us.
At first the questions:
- How is the bootloader lock implemented (does it just have write protection or is there encryption involved)?
- How were bootloaders unlocked in the past?
And last: Even if we don't get far, it's worth a try! And we will gain important experiences. I personally love this.
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The update is still available. They have just changed the webpage.
It on the same page as source code downloads
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I find it both amusing and frustrating that they have included a new hboot and yet now say it isn't even on their list of supported 'unlockable bootloaders' from their new htcdev site???
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Lothaen said:
I find it both amusing and frustrating that they have included a new hboot and yet now say it isn't even on their list of supported 'unlockable bootloaders' from their new htcdev site???
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+1 on this. Its simply against theyr policy they decide to unlock bootloaders and then they release a new hboot and even developer one and baam LOCKED
+1
alpharev + unrevoked >
http://revolutionary.io/
hope they achieve solution on this soon
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Apperantly htc service centre can downgrade for free
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Meaple said:
Why not wait for either alpharev or unrevoked or both of them to release something. They do support out device so I don't see why they wouldn't try to find a way to unlock the new hboot.
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Same thought.
Getting htc to unlock it would be much better than hacks imo.
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08r3308 said:
Apperantly htc service centre can downgrade for free
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Can you give source, please?
Check with customer service / book it in , depending who does it in your country/state.
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This page has an upcoming link to download a boot loader unlocker from hTC.
I would find it rather surprising if they have made an exception in this program for just the Desire. Why would they?
Not from that page but go to your htc repair centre and they will downgrade. Im waiting on confirmation from the repair centre
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Lothaen said:
I find it both amusing and frustrating that they have included a new hboot and yet now say it isn't even on their list of supported 'unlockable bootloaders' from their new htcdev site???
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Maybe htc thought like this: "do you people want so much the gingerbread update? Ok you will get the update but, as you wish so much it, you can't go back to froyo anymore! F** you and ur gingerbread update and go buy some new htc devices"
Regarding the bootloader there is a team that create super locked bootloaders, a team that is creating the web tool to unlock it, and the htc head boss that say "htc sensation? ok super blocked bootloaders and possibility to unlock it via web, htc desire? hm ok only super locked bootloaders, we don't need spend to much resources for an older device, .."
Just kidding..But htc should really change its politic!
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we don't need spend to much resources for an older device, .."
Just kidding..But htc should really change its politic!
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I can't really see how letting the desire get unlocked by the tool is “spending resources”, rather is it spending resources to omit a phone model, from what I understand.
Even more strange would be if htc pays good money to the service centers (here in Sweden at least this is third party, and not htc firms) to unlock boot loaders if they could have a web tool do it!
gerhard_wa said:
I can't really see how letting the desire get unlocked by the tool is “spending resources”, rather is it spending resources to omit a phone model, from what I understand.
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Well, every device is little different, have a different bootloader, different versions...That mean more people have to work to create, test, document it..In addition they will have a lot of people that will have problems doing it, so much work for the customer service again only for an older device (from their point of view)..Of course not only htc is like this, every producer want you to buy their new device..
andQlimax said:
Well, every device is little different, have a different bootloader, different versions...That mean more people have to work to create, test, document it..In addition they will have a lot of people that will have problems doing it, so much work for the customer service again only for an older device (from their point of view)..Of course not only htc is like this, every producer want you to buy their new device..
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I am quite convinced that the boot loader lock is pretty much the same for all devices and they just have to include (or exclude) the spec for all models.
They do not have to hack it, after all, they have written the source code themselves!
ok
so, can anyone confirm that unrevoked or any other group is working on it?
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Hey guys. The first official HTC update is available for HTC sensation. Mayb wildfire s is in the process.....keep fingers crossed and check http://www.htcdev.com/bootloader regularly
Cheers...
The following 2011 models (Launched prior to September, 2011) will be supported on this web site.
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So only the devices listed can be unlocked, so they will probably never support the htc marvel.
gerits said:
So only the devices listed can be unlocked, so they will probably never support the htc marvel.
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unfortunately yes, our phones have only chance; we call it "XTC Clip"
Hmm i don't think that HTC will leave us with nothing. They have released the kernel source code for wildfire s. Be patient!
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zagorje said:
Hmm i don't think that HTC will leave us with nothing. They have released the kernel source code for wildfire s. Be patient!
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About Bootloader, yes they leave us because sported devices are only Sensation and Evo 3D not Marvel or another device..
It's gonna take at least 2012 to get our update.
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perhaps if revolutionary becomes an opensource project more people could find a solution for the htc marvel...
It's not that htc is going to do anything against revolutionary's code, they do just the same, only not as good...
Anyone tried questioning HTC Support on this?
HTC support told me it may be supported. If that is of any help
F*ck it, im writing to them almost every day and so do my friends, even though they even don't got a HTC Let's hope that they'll listen. Peace from Swe folks
EVO 3D boot Loader unlock is out.
Has anyone tried unlocking their wildfire s using the HTC bootloader unlock for sensation or evo3d?
i know quite a dumb question, there must be validations of the phone model using serial number and software version and stuff but has anyone tried
ravijokhun said:
Has anyone tried unlocking their wildfire s using the HTC bootloader unlock for sensation or evo3d?
i know quite a dumb question, there must be validations of the phone model using serial number and software version and stuff but has anyone tried
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Wildfire S must be upgraded via OTA to understand "fastboot oem get_identifier_token" command.
Otherwise returns an error when you try to do this
slavislavi said:
Wildfire S must be upgraded via OTA to understand "fastboot oem get_identifier_token" command.
Otherwise returns an error when you try to do this
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Then is there any OTA upgrade to this?
Probably there will be no unlock for marvel. Screw it, I've bought XTC in UK, starting to root device in september, as device come to my hands. CyanogenMod to replace sense, just for fun ;]
Anyone from Poland willing to unlock? PM me.
Come on HTC, unlock the bootloader for our Marvels, too!
We should set up a facebook page for the Wildfire S bootloader unlock if not already exists.
Yes!
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Hope so.,...
if they wont plz devlopers do something...there isn't any way to unlock the boot loader ourself?
other than XTC CLIP...
i rooted my friend's Xperia X8
now i want mine rooted too
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=17056024&postcount=11
You can't revert to S-on actually. It's a permanent unlock. Once it's S-off it is done forever.
Just came across htcdev.com, I guess this is the official htc DEV team who have releAsed the bootloader unlock, another words to change S-on to S-off. I'm sure many of you probably have seen this. But is it possible to use this unlocker for wildfire s even though it's not on the list. can anyone make comments please ?
tapash said:
Just came across htcdev.com, I guess this is the official htc DEV team who have releAsed the bootloader unlock, another words to change S-on to S-off. I'm sure many of you probably have seen this. But is it possible to use this unlocker for wildfire s even though it's not on the list. can anyone make comments please ?
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I didnt try..but i don't think its possible. In my opinion the unlocking process will validate your phone model and ROM version before going further
Simple answer to anything you people say:
No.
You need an xtc clip, or take your phone to a shop to get it unlocked/debranded.
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Not possible yet. A software update is required to include the command to display token information which htc then work their magic with and provide the method to unlock.
tapash said:
Just came across htcdev.com, I guess this is the official htc DEV team who have releAsed the bootloader unlock, another words to change S-on to S-off. I'm sure many of you probably have seen this. But is it possible to use this unlocker for wildfire s even though it's not on the list. can anyone make comments please ?
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not possible
and will not recommend doing that, else, you want your phone to be a paperweight
let's hope htcdev releases unlocking of the bootloader soon.
Just noticed the flyer's been added to the list, looks like they're churning more out
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Hello, who contacted HTC to see if the wildfire will be released s ... their response was that all phones will be released but little by little. We can expect the release of our phone without knowing the exact date patience is in order .... (Crowns my English translated with google)
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Just noticed the flyer's been added to the list, looks like they're churning more out
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Yes i hav also noticed they have updated and added few more device. hope WFS will be listed soon
I Searched for it too
I have been looking for the G13 unlocking tools,
result = 0
unbelievable!
I guess it's just not that popular, unworth the time for big players.
pity~~~
but what i think is that stock ROM is good enuf.
So when an FOTA update comes on our phone, we confirm that we can soon unlock it!!!
wildfire s
Today i went to 2 phone unlock shops but they have treid to unlock
the phone, but they cannot help me, the phone is still locked
So also we have to wait till someone has the sollution
You should have asked them to use the XTC clip.
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HTC released a boot loader unlocker tool.
http://htcdev.com/bootloader/
Have any one tried this?
Edit:
Link to Arstechnica article: http://www.xda-developers.com/android/htc-unlocks-all-its-verizon-and-att-bootloaders/
Its aparently for ATT and Verizon phones: http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/news/2011/12/htc-has-released-a-tool.ars
Edit 2: It seems it does not work on our phones...: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=20812409#post20812409
This is a long time, but not working with any version of wildfire s hboots.
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Did you try it? People are reporting it to work for phones that are not listed in the website.
to be very clear.....the wildfire s doesn't support "fastboot oem" commands.....which are needed for the official method....so IT WON'T WORK
csoulr666 said:
to be very clear.....the wildfire s doesn't support "fastboot oem" commands.....which are needed for the official method....so IT WON'T WORK
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Figured that out reading the WFS Campaign thread as well as other forums... Thanks.
It's just this phone is unusable with all the garbage apps inside. I need to clean it. Otherwise I'll have to spend more money on another phone for my wife...
If it doesn't support fastboot, why it's then part of RUU update pack together with adb ?
The phone supports fastboot.
But the phone does not understand the oem command get_identifier_token for an unique key of the phone. And the bootloader hasn't got one or two lines at the start with the value of unlocked or locked like in the sensation xe.
So htc must give an update for hboot first, but they said, that they don't do it.
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One-click unlock tool for all of the HTC device
this a Chinese software，you just connect your phone to computer and open the software，and click the unlock button。wait for the phone give you a information about ：do you want to update？，and the choose yes.reboot the system and unlocked your phone.
-.- If you want to collect posts don't revive months old threads please!
ok
Sorry,no problem.
Hey guys,
I'm due to receive my HTC One X later this week, direct from Orange UK. Big issue for me is the fact that the handset will be Orange bloatware branded. Now I've heard that their firmware isn't actually too bad and has had little customisation. However, what I am dubious of is the fact that Orange take MONTHS to release firmware updates... Incredibly frustrating.
SO, all I should like to do, is get my HOX running the plain and simple stock firmware. So I can receive OTA updates direct from HTC
Now, I'm very new to HTC. This is my first HTC phone since my run in with an old Window's PDA phone around 6 years ago... I became very gifted in the art of debranding and customising Samsung Android phones within the past two years, however HTC is a different game entirely!
Please, can someone give me a simple (I mean really dumbed down) version of how to debrand my HTC, how to root it (if necessary) and anything else in between! I would really, really appreciate it. I am a Mac OS X user, so Mac instructions would obviously be preferable
Thank you all very much for your time!
Eddy
MOD Can I have this moved to Q&A please?
You have just follow this tutorial for MAC OS X user
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1592922
Briefly, you need to unlock the bootloader in order to flash custom recovery and then custom ROM.
Fightspit said:
You have just follow this tutorial for MAC OS X user
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1592922
Briefly, you need to unlock the bootloader in order to flash custom recovery and then custom ROM.
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Thank you. Which ROM should I go with? I'd just like a plain and simple one that I will receive update from HTC for.
Eddzz!! said:
Thank you. Which ROM should I go with? I'd just like a plain and simple one that I will receive update from HTC for.
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You can't get OTA updates if you unlock your bootloader from htcdev.com.
Sheesh, have you even read any of the topics in this forum? ;-)
agento said:
You can't get OTA updates if you unlock your bootloader from htcdev.com.
Sheesh, have you even read any of the topics in this forum? ;-)
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how would this work?
i too am due to get a voda branded HOX which I want to debrand. I'm not interested in rooting or anything... all I want to do is put stock HTC firmware on there which would receive stock unbranded HTC OTA updates as and when they are released....
is there any way to do this yet bearing in mind that I am not fussed about rooting?
Without s-off you can't debrand, you would have to go custom but then you wouldn't get ota updates
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agento said:
You can't get OTA updates if you unlock your bootloader from htcdev.com.
Sheesh, have you even read any of the topics in this forum? ;-)
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Like I said, I am completely new to all of this!
Is there no way for me to have the best of both worlds?
Eddzz!! said:
Is there no way for me to have the best of both worlds?
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Wait to see if somebody can change the bootloader to S-OFF mode and then alter your CID if you want to use the stock HTC firmware and have OTA updates.
Custom firmware can track the latest/greatest HTC firmware versions anyway so you'd get roughly the same end result.
i found this over at modaco but am not sure what exactly has been done:
http://android.modaco.com/topic/353106-debrand-one-x/page__gopid__1934961#entry1934961
Hey!
If I unlock my phone now via htcdev, s-on I guess, am I able to make it s-off later via 'custom' procedure?
Thanks for answer
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Your details will be logged with HTC so pointless. If you can wait then best to wait or if you just want to go ahead you can unlock via HTC dev.
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i dont care about my logged details on htcdev.
the main point is that i can be sure that its be possible to make it s-off *after* unlocking with htcdev.
stiffmast3r said:
i dont care about my logged details on htcdev.
the main point is that i can be sure that its be possible to make it s-off *after* unlocking with htcdev.
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Pretty sure it can still be done (going S-OFF) if you "relock" the device through HTC Dev.
oh, i can relock it via htcdev? cool....
i have no experience with htcdev, and have my "HOX" (new name for the one X? saw it sametimes here ) since yesterday.
maybe its better to wait 1 week or 2, but ima flashaholic....
i must do it, I MUST DO IT!!!!!111
stiffmast3r said:
oh, i can relock it via htcdev? cool....
i have no experience with htcdev, and have my "HOX" (new name for the one X? saw it sametimes here ) since yesterday.
maybe its better to wait 1 week or 2, but ima flashaholic....
i must do it, I MUST DO IT!!!!!111
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Yeah I think it's possible. Keep in mind that a "relocked" device is not the same thing as "locked" device. HTC will know that your device has been unlocked and the warranty is still less then with a locked device!
yeah, i think the warranty is not a big problem, i got a "good guy" at a store
Yes but if you want to send the device off to HTC for a warranty repair a year down the line that's where the issue will kick in. Hence making sense to wait for S-OFF. And potentially for resale value a locked bootloader sounds better than a relocked bootloader.
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I've heard HTC don't care if its unlocked. My friend told me as long as your issue isn't from overclocking till it fries or something, they don't care and will take it.
Plus with s-off, you can erase all traces on the phone that it was unlocked. Of course HTC probably still knows since you submitted but I've read and my friends told me HTC don't really care as long as you didn't cause it thru software.
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