Just wondering what the max "safe" processor speed would be? I had mine at 1.8 just to run a benchmark and set it back to stock until I can find this out. Thanks!
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I have mine at 1.5 and I've had no problems.
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Believe it or not, I'm running 2 ghz perfectly stable. I wouldn't recommend this as it would suck your battery dry. 1.2 is good enough.
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I was able to benchmark without error at 2ghz, but developed stability issues after some time. 1.8ghz also exhibited similar behavior. I think 1.6ghz is probably the safest max. I'm only going as high as 1.5ghz.
If nothing else, I worry about the impact of high frequencies on my cpu. I run at 1.4 just to be safe
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I was pulling 2500 on average with my Droid x running miui and clocked at 1.25 ghz.
Just checked my score in my new gnex and logged a whopping 1900 and change.
What is the deal with the quadrant scores on this device? I find it hard to believe my Droid x outperforms this nexus.
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It's probably because of the GPU tests. The Galaxy Nexus has to push 1280x720 versus your Droid X, so that's probably why you have a "lower" benchmark.
Either way, benchmarks don't translate well to real world experiences.
Thats what I score on my fascinate running JT1134's Team Hacksung ICS 4.0.3. Im pretty sure the quadrant app is not optimized to run on on ICS yet. Besides quadrant is pretty worthless...
Quadrant scores are meaning less.
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Quadrant scores are meaning less.
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What he said. Especially when Quadrant hasn't been updated in ages, not even optimized.
Benchmarks are meaningless.
Quadrant is soooooo out dated......in fact I dont even think it supports dual core cpus. Honestly just stop using it.
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Quadrant meh!
So what you're all saying is that I should keep using quadrant and treat it's scores as gospil?
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So what you're all saying is that I should keep using quadrant and treat it's scores as gospil?
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Quadrant knows all.
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So what you're all saying is that I should keep using quadrant and treat it's scores as gospil?
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I think the gist is that you shouldn't use quadrant. My gnex runs everything silky smooth, looks beautiful, and multitasks like a beast. I could care less what quadrant has to say about my device.
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Q 16: My Quadrant score is not as high as on different ROM. What does it mean?
A: It means absolutely nothing. Benchmarks on Android System are more or less lottery and they are not showing the real system performance.
There are many settings that can force Quadrant to show more then 3000 points but it's faked performance, that actually can slow down your phone in some circumstances.
What I always emphasize is a real performance, the one you can feel under your fingers. Remember that I/O has some limit and surpassing it shows just a numbers without true ratio.
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Quadrant is highly wacky and way unreliable. It is very succeptible to I/O tweaks. Keep in mind your Droid X probably had a kernel with a lot of tweaks, especially to the I/O system.
I'm running the Apex OC kernel and as you can see at 1.2ghz I get a score of 2116. OC'ed to 1.4 the score jumps to 2722. It's a non-linear increase and goes to show that you can't even rely on Quadrant on the same device much less across different devices!
Antutu is a better benchmark to gauge off of.
I get about 5800 on it.
My moto triumph (Qualcomm MSM8665 1ghz single core) was about 2800, and 3700 OC'd to 1.5ghz, so the numbers seem more believable to me.
How dare you all speak badly of quadrant. How dare you.
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However, if you put any trust in Quadrant scores you could use them to prove that dancing naked for 5 minutes in your garden affects device performance.
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QFT.
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is this possible right now
Right now no, but possible. I see no reason why you would want to overclock it.
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Faux123 isn't far away from getting it working, follow him on twitter for updates.
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Why? Battery life under load isn't great, and the thing overheats as it is
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Why? Battery life under load isn't great, and the thing overheats as it is
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...because it would be awesome?
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i want high antutu benchmarks i dont care if it ovehreats im used to hot phones as it is from the hd2 to the sensation
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i want high antutu benchmarks i dont care if it ovehreats im used to hot phones as it is from the hd2 to the sensation
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Bench marks mean nothing in the real world, also when running 4 cores It's limited to 1.2 GHz, 2 cores 1.4 GHz and 1 core 1.5 GHz
Be a better idea to work out how to remove this limit.
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...because it would be awesome?
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Agreed. I am also waiting to over clock this thing.
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Bench marks mean nothing in the real world, also when running 4 cores It's limited to 1.2 GHz, 2 cores 1.4 GHz and 1 core 1.5 GHz
Be a better idea to work out how to remove this limit.
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That seems to be the T30 version of the Tegra 3. As far as I know, we are using the T33 revision of Tegra 3, and are able to hit 1.5GHz on all cores under load. Might be wrong, but that's what I've read, we're using a new revision of Tegra 3.
i think you would be better off overclocking the gpu since the four cpu`s will be enough to run any game for the foreseeable future. i remember seeing a post saying that the could run the gpu at 600mhz and score 80+fps in the opengl egypt 720p offscreen benchmark. also the asus transformer prime has overclock and at 1.7ghz(reported stable) will hit over 14000 in antutu taking into account the higher res screen.
Nothing new since May????
I have been looking at jelly bean trinity kernels and I have noticed that they come in different GPU speeds. I was wondering if the GPU stays at 100% the whole time or does it underclock its self when not in heavy use?
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The gpu scales too, just like the CPU, albeit at different frequencies, if my memory serves me right (it never does) its like 143, 266 and 384 MHz. Something like that anyway.
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Yeah, I believe it uses steps like the CPU for when its not using heavily graphics or calculations.
I think the actual process is a bit more complicated because (if I recall right), the CPU and GPU are integrated.
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This a nice thread, thanks for sharing.
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Hi there. I rooted my nexus 7 last night and flashed the cm10.1 rom with faux 123 kernel and been able to oc it to 1.7.
Why can't we have kernels that oc and uv efficiently like other phones and tablets?
And finally the at&t has an s-off why can't we?
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Because the battery will melt.
No s off because we have tegra chipset, at&t has an qualcomm chipset which is easier to crack.
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What fo you mean the battery will melt? Othervdevices can handle this.
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If you want that your battery runs out after an hour of use, go ahead and OC
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Why would you want to., just for some stats.?
Not necessary at all...
Here GPU @ 520 Mhz all the power u will need
The nexus 7is a larger device and has much better heat dissipation Than the one x.
By overclocking all you really accomplish is heating the device to thermal throttling levels quicker.
Meaning
1.5ghz for 10mins before throttle then 1.2ghz throttled
Or
1.7ghz for 3mins before throttle then 1.2ghz throttled
In this scenario by overclocking you gain an extra 200mhz for 3mins but because of the overclocking the device heats up and throttled earlier. Thus losing 300MHz vs stock for the next 7mins.
Because of the poor thermal dissipation it makes overclocking pointless
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The nexus 7is a larger device and has much better heat dissipation Than the one x.
By overclocking all you really accomplish is heating the device to thermal throttling levels quicker.
Meaning
1.5ghz for 10mins before throttle then 1.2ghz throttled
Or
1.7ghz for 3mins before throttle then 1.2ghz throttled
In this scenario by overclocking you gain an extra 200mhz for 3mins but because of the overclocking the device heats up and throttled earlier. Thus losing 300MHz vs stock for the next 7mins.
Because of the poor thermal dissipation it makes overclocking pointless
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On stock 4 cores will run @ 1.2 ghz, so when you oc by 200 mhz you run 4 cores at 1.4 ghz
Though they did get an overclock that runs 4 cores at 1.5.
The cpu thermal throttle kicks in at 85c and will shut down the phone at 90c.
Battery classes as "over heating" when it hits 48c.
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That was just an example.
Actually it runs single at 1.5 and quad at 1.4 stock
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Ok thanks for the info.
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What about UnderVolt ???
Is there any modules to undervolt ??? Or any other modules ???
I'm from LG Optimus 4X forum (Tegra 3) it has the same CPU & GPU so they should work .
I'm sorry if I posted in wrong place .
Thanks .
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Most custom kernels (NCX, XM, etc.) let you UV.
Take a look at their git, it should have the modules you need.
It may be a noob question, but why does our device OC'd higher than other devices not outperform newer phones like the s4 or HTC One? Are there other factors that weigh in or is it Sammy doing something we can't undo?
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Different CPU architectures, and other parts so you cannot compare mhz vs mhz. Also depends on what you are testing exactly.
Outperformed by what comparison ???
Too many variables exist to compare anything. ..and benchmark scores do not count. ..
The best device is the one users enjoy the most. ...not the one that boasts about being "better" than it's rival competition. ..That is a marketing campaign. ..
The note 2 is not designed to be the main stream power phone. ..it is a unique niche device with nothing less than impressive specifications. ....and regardless of what the competition says, will run exceptionally well against any devices on the market who share the same production time frame, and similar hardware/software......g
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Outperformed by what comparison ???
Too many variables exist to compare anything. ..and benchmark scores do not count. ..
The best device is the one users enjoy the most. ...not the one that boasts about being "better" than it's rival competition. ..That is a marketing campaign. ..
The note 2 is not designed to be the main stream power phone. ..it is a unique niche device with nothing less than impressive specifications. ....and regardless of what the competition says, will run exceptionally well against any devices on the market who share the same production time frame, and similar hardware/software......g
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Note 2 is a power house its enjoyable. Any more power is just bragging right from here on out. For oc it has to do with heat dispensing, voltage the archatech the NM of the chip and of course software.
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It may be a noob question, but why does our device OC'd higher than other devices not outperform newer phones like the s4 or HTC One? Are there other factors that weigh in or is it Sammy doing something we can't undo?
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Just out of curiosity, by what measure is the S4 or HTC 1 outperforming the Note 2?
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Just out of curiosity, by what measure is the S4 or HTC 1 outperforming the Note 2?
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I know I'm going to get some heat for this, but quadrant scores are around 12750 whereas my note 2 has topped at around 8500...I'm not saying I can't do anything less on our device; I do enjoy having the highest performance of anything out there
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Your problem is that you're equating quadrant score with sheer performance. It's no like a dynometer that gives a accurate reading. Ie - if you took a brand new sports car and put it on a dyno it would spit out nearly identical hp and torque numbers test after test, but if you ran quadrant test after test you would get varying scores. I've had score differences of up to 400 points when I ran the test back to back. The same with antutu.
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Your problem is that you're equating quadrant score with sheer performance. It's no like a dynometer that gives a accurate reading. Ie - if you took a brand new sports car and put it on a dyno it would spit out nearly identical hp and torque numbers test after test, but if you ran quadrant test after test you would get varying scores. I've had score differences of up to 400 points when I ran the test back to back. The same with antutu.
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Haha, like I said, I knew I'd get get heat for that, and I realize benchmarks aren't the most accurate way of determining power and performance...but I do like the bragging rights of saying that mine is numerically higher. I know it's kind of wrong, but it's also fun to mess with the settings and find what combos get the best results which led me to this post. I was also more curious as to why even though our device clocked higher with otherwise similar specs still don't match up.
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There are too many variables in determining why your core running at 1.8 isn't outperforming another core running at 1.6.
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There are too many variables in determining why your core running at 1.8 isn't outperforming another core running at 1.6.
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I'm talking more about why our quad running at 2GHz is much lower than a quad running at 1.7 with completely different governers and other tweaks?
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You're asking the same question that I just answered. It doesn't matter the number of cores or the mH it's clocked at. There are too many variables to figure it out. Think about the different frameworks, the numerous system processes running, the apps installed, system apps, settings, tweaks... If you had identical devices running all the same stuff you would still get varying results.
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I'm talking more about why our quad running at 2GHz is much lower than a quad running at 1.7 with completely different governers and other tweaks?
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Its not so much the cpu that is the biggest change in quadrant its in the power of the gpu that the note 2 has a mali 400 while some models of the S4 have much more powerful gpu's
Does that even matter in Quadrant? If you have a device with vsync off then it will score much higher in GPU than the Note 2 with Vsync.
Also, if you are going to only focus on Benchmarks to compare, at least use a more decent test or various tests to get a broader perspective like 3DMark, Antutu and Vellamo.
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You're asking the same question that I just answered. It doesn't matter the number of cores or the mH it's clocked at. There are too many variables to figure it out. Think about the different frameworks, the numerous system processes running, the apps installed, system apps, settings, tweaks... If you had identical devices running all the same stuff you would still get varying results.
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But shouldn't they be in a similar range? Forgive me for the repetition, I just want to know a little more about the way this works.
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I think we have been pretty clear already so not sure what you are not understanding.
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I think we have been pretty clear already so not sure what you are not understanding.
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I think we have been pretty clear already so not sure what you are not understanding.
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I do understand now. I'm just being clear. My apologies.
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