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SmartBench 2011 works now

*Update it from the Market*
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.smartbench.eleven
For a while the app turned into one giant ad. Useless. It works now
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Not yet for me still one huge ad
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r1_2fast4u said:
Not yet for me still one huge ad
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oh you have to update it from the market if you haven't

No bueno here
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It works!!!
The Evo3D Killer!!!

hayabusa1300cc said:
oh you have to update it from the market if you haven't
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I has v1.2.1
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Got 4700's
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No love from the Market. Still on 1.2.1, still just one big ad...

is smart bench more accurate then quadrant? with quadrant the highest ive seen at 1.6Ghz is 4500, now i did 3 back to back tests with smart bench and this is the best i get, lowest was a 5100..

superhtchd2 said:
is smart bench more accurate then quadrant? with quadrant the highest ive seen at 1.6Ghz is 4500, now i did 3 back to back tests with smart bench and this is the best i get, lowest was a 5100..
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Quadrant is pointless to use with dualcore it only test one core.
Also both have different test/scoring system you can't compaire numbers between benchmarks

Gs3 chip set.

http://tinyurl.com/6lu6uyk
Sounds alright. I like this phone. Lol
I didn't see this posted so thought others might want to read it.
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This will be more than likely true. Remember this phone is the biggest competitor to the Iphone so it will definitely be released with some amazing specs. Just like the galaxy s2 at the time.

I_FLY_Z3R0 said:
This will be more than likely true. Remember this phone is the biggest competitor to the Iphone so it will definitely be released with some amazing specs. Just like the galaxy s2 at the time.
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The GS2 is still the top phone (top 3 at least), except the screen (nexus+note > gs2) and CPU (nexus > gs2). Otherwise the GPU + storage capabilities exceed the nexus it's a close call
I think the GS2 has held its value better than any other smart phone that came out last year, which is an extremely good accomplishment in today's fast-growing market. Though, the GS2's reign will end soon with phones like the One X and GS3

What nexus cpu better than sg2 is that a joke? Sg2 Exynos atleast twice as better as ti omap cpu nexus has
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digweed4me said:
What nexus cpu better than sg2 is that a joke? Sg2 Exynos atleast twice as better as ti omap cpu nexus has
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No it isn't... someone didn't do their homework the omap is much better the sgx540 gpu is what kills the nexus
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bbedward said:
No it isn't... someone didn't do their homework the omap is much better the sgx540 gpu is what kills the nexus
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Who told u that?
Have u seen benchmark score on both of them? Exynos score almost twice as much .
My friend has galaxy nexus my score is always double than his phone. He gets around 2200 and i get around 4200 on mine.
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digweed4me said:
Who told u that?
Have u seen benchmark score on both of them? Exynos score almost twice as much .
My friend has galaxy nexus my score is always double than his phone. He gets around 2200 and i get around 4200 on mine.
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Try bench marking the CPU only. Every benchmark the omap is almost or more than 1.5x as high
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Then I was Just reading and found this too. But like the author says take with a grain of salt.
http://tinyurl.com/7lu6nyq
But if true this would be so dope
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http://www.engadget.com/2012/03/19/alleged-exynos-5-specs-leaked-in-slide-show-spyshot/
lines up with with anandtech was saying back in november:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5169/samsung-exynos-5250-announced-cortexa15-2ghz-dualcore
if this stuff is even half true the sgs3 is going to be screaming.

Yeah I think it would be a bad ass phone. Really like looking ahead to see what companies are going to put into their phones. Seems like Samsung is doing a good job.
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Is this like that new up ad thing with a dual core CPU + a quad core gpu?
And it also seems like the CPU is twice as fast according to sammy
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Well well...that SoC in the 2nd links gets me feeling all fuzzy.
That GPU is intriguing...capable of directx11 support? Amazing...
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[Q] Nexus 7 Beats out S III?

Now I know benchmarking isn't exactly "accurate" but I'd imagine it does give you a rough idea of how well your phone is performing, now my question is how can the Nexus 7 Tablet go from a score of about 3500, to over 7100 with just an OC'd kernel to 1.64GHz? Beating out the S III in 'Quadrant Standard' by a long shot. Again I know benchmarks don't mean much, but has anyone topped "7130" with a U.S. variant S III? Just curious and looking for some feedback,
I''ll post the link to the article,
Thanks guys.
http://www.talkandroid.com/126276-n...locked-to-1-64-ghz-with-trinity-seven-kernel/
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Hmm I thought S3 would be much faster than the Nexus 7 but after looking at specs it does have a quad core processor "Quad-core 1.3 GHz Cortex-A9" but only 1gb of ram, we have 2gb. Seems weird that the I/O is A TON faster when oc'd. The other day I did a quadrant standard and got 2600 and tested 30 mins later and was at 4800 so it could just be numbers. Seems too big of a jump from 1.3 to 1.64ghz But yeah thanks for sharing!

Yup np, yeah I just found it odd... such a huge leap, and so much more than the 2GB ram S3, but it could just be the highest score out of 20 different tries.
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irish.iolar said:
Yup np, yeah I just found it odd... such a huge leap, and so much more than the 2GB ram S3, but it could just be the highest score out of 20 different tries.
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Would it matter that the Nex 7 has JB? What about running said tests once the S3 has JB...just a thought

wiz4769 said:
Would it matter that the Nex 7 has JB? What about running said tests once the S3 has JB...just a thought
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I watched a video with the Nexus 7 playing NOVA 3 and it was would lag and chunk out at certain parts. Thats never happened on my S3. I doubt overclocking a N7 would help much with that either. Hard to say though

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Would it matter that the Nex 7 has JB? What about running said tests once the S3 has JB...just a thought
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I would imagine JB would make a significant difference on the overall results. Just wait till we get an official JB release
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CPU performance

It may be a noob question, but why does our device OC'd higher than other devices not outperform newer phones like the s4 or HTC One? Are there other factors that weigh in or is it Sammy doing something we can't undo?
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Different CPU architectures, and other parts so you cannot compare mhz vs mhz. Also depends on what you are testing exactly.

Outperformed by what comparison ???
Too many variables exist to compare anything. ..and benchmark scores do not count. ..
The best device is the one users enjoy the most. ...not the one that boasts about being "better" than it's rival competition. ..That is a marketing campaign. ..
The note 2 is not designed to be the main stream power phone. ..it is a unique niche device with nothing less than impressive specifications. ....and regardless of what the competition says, will run exceptionally well against any devices on the market who share the same production time frame, and similar hardware/software......g

gregsarg said:
Outperformed by what comparison ???
Too many variables exist to compare anything. ..and benchmark scores do not count. ..
The best device is the one users enjoy the most. ...not the one that boasts about being "better" than it's rival competition. ..That is a marketing campaign. ..
The note 2 is not designed to be the main stream power phone. ..it is a unique niche device with nothing less than impressive specifications. ....and regardless of what the competition says, will run exceptionally well against any devices on the market who share the same production time frame, and similar hardware/software......g
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Note 2 is a power house its enjoyable. Any more power is just bragging right from here on out. For oc it has to do with heat dispensing, voltage the archatech the NM of the chip and of course software.
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raynan said:
It may be a noob question, but why does our device OC'd higher than other devices not outperform newer phones like the s4 or HTC One? Are there other factors that weigh in or is it Sammy doing something we can't undo?
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Just out of curiosity, by what measure is the S4 or HTC 1 outperforming the Note 2?
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LittleRedDot said:
Just out of curiosity, by what measure is the S4 or HTC 1 outperforming the Note 2?
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I know I'm going to get some heat for this, but quadrant scores are around 12750 whereas my note 2 has topped at around 8500...I'm not saying I can't do anything less on our device; I do enjoy having the highest performance of anything out there
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Your problem is that you're equating quadrant score with sheer performance. It's no like a dynometer that gives a accurate reading. Ie - if you took a brand new sports car and put it on a dyno it would spit out nearly identical hp and torque numbers test after test, but if you ran quadrant test after test you would get varying scores. I've had score differences of up to 400 points when I ran the test back to back. The same with antutu.
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LittleRedDot said:
Your problem is that you're equating quadrant score with sheer performance. It's no like a dynometer that gives a accurate reading. Ie - if you took a brand new sports car and put it on a dyno it would spit out nearly identical hp and torque numbers test after test, but if you ran quadrant test after test you would get varying scores. I've had score differences of up to 400 points when I ran the test back to back. The same with antutu.
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Haha, like I said, I knew I'd get get heat for that, and I realize benchmarks aren't the most accurate way of determining power and performance...but I do like the bragging rights of saying that mine is numerically higher. I know it's kind of wrong, but it's also fun to mess with the settings and find what combos get the best results which led me to this post. I was also more curious as to why even though our device clocked higher with otherwise similar specs still don't match up.
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There are too many variables in determining why your core running at 1.8 isn't outperforming another core running at 1.6.
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LittleRedDot said:
There are too many variables in determining why your core running at 1.8 isn't outperforming another core running at 1.6.
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I'm talking more about why our quad running at 2GHz is much lower than a quad running at 1.7 with completely different governers and other tweaks?
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You're asking the same question that I just answered. It doesn't matter the number of cores or the mH it's clocked at. There are too many variables to figure it out. Think about the different frameworks, the numerous system processes running, the apps installed, system apps, settings, tweaks... If you had identical devices running all the same stuff you would still get varying results.
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raynan said:
I'm talking more about why our quad running at 2GHz is much lower than a quad running at 1.7 with completely different governers and other tweaks?
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Its not so much the cpu that is the biggest change in quadrant its in the power of the gpu that the note 2 has a mali 400 while some models of the S4 have much more powerful gpu's

Does that even matter in Quadrant? If you have a device with vsync off then it will score much higher in GPU than the Note 2 with Vsync.
Also, if you are going to only focus on Benchmarks to compare, at least use a more decent test or various tests to get a broader perspective like 3DMark, Antutu and Vellamo.

LittleRedDot said:
You're asking the same question that I just answered. It doesn't matter the number of cores or the mH it's clocked at. There are too many variables to figure it out. Think about the different frameworks, the numerous system processes running, the apps installed, system apps, settings, tweaks... If you had identical devices running all the same stuff you would still get varying results.
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But shouldn't they be in a similar range? Forgive me for the repetition, I just want to know a little more about the way this works.
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I think we have been pretty clear already so not sure what you are not understanding.

shaolin95 said:
I think we have been pretty clear already so not sure what you are not understanding.
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shaolin95 said:
I think we have been pretty clear already so not sure what you are not understanding.
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I do understand now. I'm just being clear. My apologies.
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S4 Pro or Snapdragon 600?

So I'm currently very confused. I downloaded the app called CPU-Z to check out the internals of the G Pro and right up top it said that the chipset is the Snapdragon S4 Pro (keep in mind I'm using the AT&T model). I thought this must be an error of the app, seeing as I knew that the G Pro is supposed to have a Snapdragon 600 chip. I then went to both Antutu and Quadrant, and both stated that the phone has a Qualcomm QTC APQ8064 MTP processor, which I looked up and found is the S4 Pro from last year. I've always wondered why my G Pro tends to lag a bit and why benchmarks aren't as high as the One or the S4. Did I get fooled into thinking this device ran the Snapdragon 600?
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OG PRO

esimon311 said:
OG PRO
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Where'd you find that?
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sportsinger75 said:
Where'd you find that?
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Here you go
http://m.att.com/shopmobile/wireless/devices/lg/optimus-g-pro-indigo.html?referrer=
The Snapdragon™ 600 (APQ8064T) is there.
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http://m.gsmarena.com/lg_optimus_g_pro_e985-5254.php
OG PRO

Thing is, the phone is not listing the "T" at the end of 8064. I'll upload a pic in a minute.
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Here's a screenshot... Keep in mind the phone only scores around 17000 in Antutu, indicative of S4 Pro scores.
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sportsinger75 said:
Here's a screenshot... Keep in mind the phone only scores around 17000 in Antutu, indicative of S4 Pro scores.
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Have you tried disabling thermal throttling ?

cynosure4sure said:
Have you tried disabling thermal throttling ?
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What is that, the battery saving Quad Core limiting feature? Yeah, did that. Still though, why is everything listing the device as having an S4 Pro?
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there"s a lot of confusion about that..... I"ve tried cpu-z and its the same to you....it tell that I"ve the s4 pro...QUALCOMM told that its very the snapdragon 600 who"s inside!! in fact they"re are the same except that the gpu is overclocked at 500mhz instead of 400 for the s4 pro...this is what I have read on the web
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just made an antutu test minutes ago...and had 24655 so it confirm that its really a snapdragon 600

CPU-Z stating a CPU frequency of 387 MHz and AnTuTu stating a CPU frequency of 384 MHz.
I have the AT&T version purchased 3 days ago.
Should I be at 500 MHz?
Also, CPU-Z showing S4 Pro processor.
So what's the deal?
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martinezma99 said:
CPU-Z stating a CPU frequency of 387 MHz and AnTuTu stating a CPU frequency of 384 MHz.
I have the AT&T version purchased 3 days ago.
Should I be at 500 MHz?
Also, CPU-Z showing S4 Pro processor.
So what's the deal?
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Apparently no one knows. I've tried researching but couldn't find anything so I came to this forum. To me, it makes sense that the phone runs last year's S4 Pro like all the benchmarks say, due to the fact that the phone is quite laggy in daily use and scores very low compared to the Galaxy S4 and HTC One in benchmarks, both of which definitely have Snapdragon 600 processors.
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And here's the CPU Z results from my Galaxy S4, clearly stating that the app knows the difference between the S4 Pro and the Snapdragon 600... The Optimus G Pro does NOT have a Snapdragon 600 processor. Bummer.
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sportsinger75 said:
Apparently no one knows. I've tried researching but couldn't find anything so I came to this forum. To me, it makes sense that the phone runs last year's S4 Pro like all the benchmarks say, due to the fact that the phone is quite laggy in daily use and scores very low compared to the Galaxy S4 and HTC One in benchmarks, both of which definitely have Snapdragon 600 processors.
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24k Antutu low?
Maybe still cpu z bug, check comment at Playstore
Many people have no accurate CPU
Ex: One V = Snapdragon S1, it should be Snap S2
Nexus 4 S600, it should be S4 pro
And post your antutu after disable thermal throttling

Cpu z reports incorrect processor on many models. Att site specs clearly state it has the snapdragon 600 8064t. The clock is at 1.7 which matches the recommended clock for the sd 600. I would not be so quick to think LG would lie about the phones components.

meld said:
24k Antutu low?
Maybe still cpu z bug, check comment at Playstore
Many people have no accurate CPU
Ex: One V = Snapdragon S1, it should be Snap S2
Nexus 4 S600, it should be S4 pro
And post your antutu after disable thermal throttling
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Lol, I never said 24k was low. I mentioned that the G Pro was consistently not meeting anything close to that, as it scored more in the 17k range consistently, which is more indicative of the Snapdragon S4.
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sportsinger75 said:
Apparently no one knows. I've tried researching but couldn't find anything so I came to this forum. To me, it makes sense that the phone runs last year's S4 Pro like all the benchmarks say, due to the fact that the phone is quite laggy in daily use and scores very low compared to the Galaxy S4 and HTC One in benchmarks, both of which definitely have Snapdragon 600 processors.
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Could you share your results in benchmarks with us? Because our benches http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2085915&page=3 show definitely results on par with HTC1 or just little bit lower than [email protected]
CPU-Z shows APQ8064 on mine GPro too. But according to benchmarks I'm pretty shure I have Snap600, and it's a bug in CPU-Z database, not a faulty phone
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as it scored more in the 17k range consistently, which is more indicative of the Snapdragon S4.
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No, it just indicates that throttling caps the frequency more aggressively than on HTC1 or SGS4 so to G Pro not to get as hot as them. The same was with Nexus4, it throttled sooner than, say, ASUS Padfone2 and got lower scores in all benchmarks
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And here's the CPU Z results from my Galaxy S4, clearly stating that the app knows the difference between the S4 Pro and the Snapdragon 600... The Optimus G Pro does NOT have a Snapdragon 600 processor. Bummer.
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Where are they?
sportsinger75 said:
What is that, the battery saving Quad Core limiting feature? Yeah, did that. Still though, why is everything listing the device as having an S4 Pro?
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No. Apperantly you not tried to read the forum before starting question topic. Read this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2296447

sportsinger75 said:
Apparently no one knows. I've tried researching but couldn't find anything so I came to this forum. To me, it makes sense that the phone runs last year's S4 Pro like all the benchmarks say, due to the fact that the phone is quite laggy in daily use and scores very low compared to the Galaxy S4 and HTC One in benchmarks, both of which definitely have Snapdragon 600 processors.
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Not sure where your lag is coming from or why you have it. I suffer from no lag at all. Smoothest phone ive owned or played with so far. Maybe try a system wipe and reset on your unit. Do you have 19000 widgets open?

How about using this?
Never hurts to get a second opinion:
CPU/RAM/DEVICE identifier app
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.Bfield.CpuIdentifier&hl=en
CPU-Z reports Exynos 4412 as ARM9 but this app is better so...................
do post your results :cyclops:

Maybe this will solve the questions.