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IMEI CHECK.CO.UK i think i got em uncovered

hello lads, wish everybody is fine and doin well, ive been doing some intelligence and detective work around around the weired fact that IMEI check are the only guyz around with an unlock solution for the UNIVERSAL.
what i accumilated was kindda weired. according to information gathered from this website and specially from my favourite two super stars (BUZZ lightyear and Mchinegod) those legendary stars got it all fine lolll.
what i found is.
IMEI check has some source in HTC inovations in taiwan.
this source has probably supplied em classified Hardware Software information on how to unlock the Universal.
second speculation is that they also has a source that has unrestricted acess to the IMEI-Unlock code database. and he supplies them the assigned codes for some percentage from every unlock they make.
in both cases there is an insider who must ve supplied critical info on raming this device into the corners.
just for the info, i mentioned before that i had a weired problem and that is i wanted to unlock my MDA pro and T-mobile the netherlands told me that my IMEI doesnt exist in thier database or its not a T-mobile universal varient. however i managed my way in contacting someone in HTC and my honest source tracked my IMEI back to T-mobile the netherlands, i offered this source paying him money to gimme the unlock code but he refused in great honesty and said, the entire HTC cant supply me these codes not for free not for a fee, acoording to a business agreement with the T-Mobile. after a while, i got an email from T-Mobile telling me that they have my Unlock code right now and they are ready to supply me the code for like 70 euros or something,,
that shows that there are some leaks around between HTC and its business partners and, our freiends at IMEI check, has foudn some way to access these leaks and make some money.
wish i explained my theory
best regards
shady

why dont they offer then an online unlock... you send them imei number and money... they send you unlock code....
there is an other way they do it

€70 is much less than I was first asked for to have an Unlock code. It was more like €175, and that was for a little Samsung phone before T-Mobile took over One2One.
After you've been using the device for 1 year, your first year contract is finished. After this first year contract, the Universal belongs to you - NOT T-Mobile - and you are therefore legally entitled to do anything you want to with it, including unlocking it. T-Mobile CANNOT legally deny you this right - if they could, the central IMEI databases which disallow network access from stolen devices would simply disallow access to other networks from your IMEI.

thas exactly the point
asking for physical acess to the machine while still sayint that they will not open it and hat all stuff will be made through cable. sooo i think this provides perfect diversion.

Yeah, I think I said in an earlier post that the whole thing about 'sending your Universal in because physical access is required' is a load of bullcrap. It's as shady said, they have an insider at HTC which really makes me question the ethics of their dealings in the first place. I don't think I like these guys very much.

I think you forgot something US (imei-check):
We killed JFK, we are green and we come from Mars. Somewhere on other forum I saw that someone says that we like to collect the MDA PRO's. Yes we love to swim in them . We are aliens and we like that.
These declarations are as true as your conspiracy theory.
WE HAVE NO connection with HTC or any other manufacture or operator. We are just a bunch of programmers which like to work till late not to stay and see if anyone comes with anything for free for us.
This forum should be called Warez and freeware searchers since here all you can read is where to download such software and were to get such thing for free. Only a handful of people from here does developing, rest just a bunch of beggars (sorry for the previos spelling mistake, but hey I'm not a native speaker ).
Florin Mandache
Director of MIGsofT LTD (imei-check.co.uk)

Imei Check
I resent your comments regarding the rest of us no-hopers being 'baggers'.
If it wasn't for forums like this you guys wouldn't have any business cos the vast majority of us would have returned our pda phones due to lack of network support.
I have no qualms paying for unlocking but the networks take the mick by making you wait weeks for the unlock codes.
I dare say you guys have learnt from this forum and if you didnt charge 50 squid for a universal unlock code you would get more respect.
We all have a part to play mate so just remember this:
Without consumers(or baggers as you like to call us) you would have to latch onto somting else so give us a break !!!

i vote with jonboy. if u dont respect this forum why are you on it,,, i have no idea actually + if you think my claims are wrong, there is no need to insult all of us, my friend the way you answered is a hard proof that at least some of my claims have taken a byte at the neck of the truth.
anyway thanks for calling us baggers, but again as jonboy says, these baggers are the guyz making business for you and giving you money. so i wont call em baggers cuz if its not for them you would ve been a bagger.
you IMEI guyz are asking for astaggering 74 E to unlock well i have to mention that T-mobile unlocked my MDA pro for 70 euros which is still 4euros less than what you asked + i dotn have to send it all the way to another country or stuff.
again thanks dear brother for insulting the forum and its people.
best regards
shady

florin_m said:
I think you forgot something US (imei-check):
We killed JFK, we are green and we come from Mars. Somewhere on other forum I saw that someone says that we like to collect the MDA PRO's. Yes we love to swim in them . We are aliens and we like that.
These declarations are as true as your conspiracy theory.
WE HAVE NO connection with HTC or any other manufacture or operator. We are just a bunch of programmers which like to work till late not to stay and see if anyone comes with anything for free for us.
This forum should be called Warez and freeware searchers since here all you can read is where to download such software and were to get such thing for free. Only a handful of people from here does developing, rest just a bunch of beggars (sorry for the previos spelling mistake, but hey I'm not a native speaker ).
Florin Mandache
Director of MIGsofT LTD (imei-check.co.uk)
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Florin, you are a fool.
'nuff said.

florin_m said:
I think you forgot something US (imei-check):
We killed JFK, we are green and we come from Mars. Somewhere on other forum I saw that someone says that we like to collect the MDA PRO's. Yes we love to swim in them . We are aliens and we like that.
Florin Mandache
Director of MIGsofT LTD (imei-check.co.uk)
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Are you really who you say you are? If you are, you must be about ten years old because that statement is so immature, not fit for a grown mature adult.
BTW, where are all the warez on this site? I haven't seen any, or am I just blind, naive or both? We all visit this forum so that we can "hack" some the system parameters of our devices to enhance them and give them "personalities" we like or prefer to have.

actually, i think this florin is just a very erogant man, i still am feeling offended that he called us beggers. do everybody really has to be a developer. well mr wiered headless brainless, when u go to a Dr to take out the permenant disease out of your head do u become a begger, when you go to psyciatrist to take the wiered erogance of your soul do u become a begger, so if you think that when u go to a pro that well help you get rid of all of these wiered stuff in your miniature nature that will make you a bagger, then we might also be considered bagger. and by the way plz when u speak to people again try to get first some schooling second learn some ethics
again lads, just think deeply if our ideas on this forum about how IMEI check got thier hands on the unlocking codes are wrong, what would piss thier boss off, hehehe if someone said soemthing thas not right about me i wouldnt really start a fight on someones wrong calims, but if he uncovered my business then ill fight to recover it back, even by insulting people heheh
best regards
shady

shadykw said:
my friend the way you answered is a hard proof that at least some of my claims have taken a byte at the neck of the truth.
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you lost me here - why you are so sure you are right just because someone responded to you? No offence, but what you said is questionable in the first place... and i simply cannot understand what has the pricing got to do with this? it can be 100 euros - so what?? WHY are you so unhappy?
and generally he was right, most people do not produce anything new for the device, the max we do is copy-paste. Its the truth - why are you complaining - what have you done?
btw, i have got nothing to do with them, never used the service and do not know anyone there in any way... so that you will not say i am from their company too, just because i have a different opinion to yours. And it will not prove that you are 100% right - i hope this is clear at least.

im sorry guyz, i aint no dectaort here and ieve never said im right i just speculated some stuff, and to be honest as i said, i have no proof, its just speculation, and im not complaining about the price the market is open, u dont like someones service, take another. and i have no offense against anybody as well i havent attacked him, it was just someone that began attacking all the forum not me only. and again, im not so sure and im not running an invistigation here buddy, and im usually dotn speak so much here in the forum, but i just dotn wanna get kicked whenever im gonna say soemthing someone is gonan call me a bagger. and yes not everybody is doign something cuz so simply not everybody is a developer, does the fact that im in another field rather than IT or software development must make me shut up and not even talk.
well guyz im sorry anyway if i attacked any body or offended anyone without intentions
again im sorry for that
best regards
shady

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shadykw said:
my friend the way you answered is a hard proof that at least some of my claims have taken a byte at the neck of the truth.
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you lost me here - why you are so sure you are right just because someone responded to you? No offence, but what you said is questionable in the first place... and i simply cannot understand what has the pricing got to do with this? it can be 100 euros - so what?? WHY are you so unhappy?
and generally he was right, most people do not produce anything new for the device, the max we do is copy-paste. Its the truth - why are you complaining - what have you done?
btw, i have got nothing to do with them, never used the service and do not know anyone there in any way... so that you will not say i am from their company too, just because i have a different opinion to yours. And it will not prove that you are 100% right - i hope this is clear at least.
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well said that man
The rest of you n00b-muppets need to shut the hell up. I've known Florin for quite some time now and back in the early days he was of great help to the Windows Mobile community and still is today. To be quite honest, he's right, the majority of you are all beggers. You all want something for nothing. Why should someone break their back to make YOU happy? What have YOU done for the community? Why should anyone spend their precious time helping YOU when all YOU do is leech information?
You want the "truth" behind imei-check? They spend alot of time working on devices to get them unlocked. Sometimes they kill the devices. Said devices cost money. Then when all the hard work is over and they start to earn a reward from their work, some jumped up little prick decides to reverse engineer the software and sell it on ebay. Thats why you have to send Universal's in to them.

I would like to react to this
that shows that there are some leaks around between HTC and its business partners and, our freiends at IMEI check, has foudn some way to access these leaks and make some money.
And please do not take this like "racism" or anything else.
HTC is a Taiwanese Company POINT ! In Taiwan China Korea (Much difficult in Japan) Money is the most important thing ! I was living Before in HK, and has often be oblige to deal with the mainland but the things is that Money can buy anything over there or allow you a lot of things. I had last year a "Weird" problem with a Taiwanese PC, Pocket PC, smartphone manufacturer. Well I was dealing for a potential of 300 Units (PC) and things were going well at the begning until... they bypass me and contacted my client to make business with them.
This is how things work there and will always work.
If you take for example Korea... nobody follow any contract, in Fact in business matter it works like this, you firs sign the contract, and then you discuss about the term of the contract. If for example you want to "punish" a Korean company you just has to force them to follow a contract (this is the worst punition for them)
Once again, there are no racism in my story I am living in Asia since a long time now, my wife is Korean/Japanese and I had the chance to live, before I met my wife, with a Chinese lady (Be quiet on this one ok )

Absolute bollocks :roll:
Did you even read the rest of the posts here or did you just read the first one and reply straight away?
How exactly does this show that there are leaks? Where's your proof? One dumbass hatches a theory and you take it as gospel :roll:

nedge2k said:
Absolute bollocks :roll:
Did you even read the rest of the posts here or did you just read the first one and reply straight away?
How exactly does this show that there are leaks? Where's your proof? One dumbass hatches a theory and you take it as gospel :roll:
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Just share experience, that all

hey guyz, again ive said there is no proof these are just speculations, and again im not a damn developer, as far as i remeber ihavent insulted anyone, would you plz choose a better language describing the people on this forum,, if you think that we are all beggars, fine dont be around us, but plz just stop this insulting. and why are my words so painfull, i just said what i though nothing more. specially that in various threads in this forum, some guyz managed to get the codes from HTC so im not totally inventing a story, i think prooving me wrong would be much easier that saying all of this, jesus why is insulting so easy

florin_m
A year ago i unlocked more than 20 phones (s100 and 9090) with imei-check's help so don't say we all beggars here.
Would there be an online service soon to unlock the MDA-PRO? Because sending your MDA to England isn't accepltable for everyone and i really need to use the service quite often.

@florin_m
hi florin,
i seriously doubt, that you've programmed an unlocker for Universal, just few days after it was released to the market.
Either you have/had:
1. engineering prototypes with certain bootloader functions opened
2. access to special service SD cards
3. bootloader passwords
4. access to IMEI/lock database
i'd say 2. or 4. is right
BTW, why do you call your company IMEI-CHECK?
Wouldn't it be more apropriate to call it unlock-programming ?
IMEI-CHECK is invoking a vision of checking IMEI against a list or such...
buzz

We're in the news ;)

http://msmobiles.com/news.php/6077.html
I submitted our plight as a story on ms mobiles and we made it on
To admins: they requested a link to them from our main page, after all are helping us, i said i didnt have that power but i would ask you guys

Midget_1990 said:
http://msmobiles.com/news.php/6077.html
I submitted our plight as a story on ms mobiles and we made it on
To admins: they requested a link to them from our main page, after all are helping us, i said i didnt have that power but i would ask you guys
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submit it to pocketpcthoughts.com also

Posted on PPCSG.com forums. No sign of them picking it up, tho. Doesn't matter.

good luck!
http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php?t=1110139

We made Engadget O__O

I've got us onto The Inquirer, http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=37682
I was also asked for an interview by them so if anyone has anything really useful to say then please email me at [email protected] (xda-devs isnt working too well for me atm)

I MADE THIS on pocketpc.com.hk
the largest ppc forum in hk too

heres is the digg stories
http://digg.com/search?s=xda&submit=Search&section=news&type=both&area=all&age=7&sort=new

you,ve got my support guys bring it on !!!!!!!!

Wow 3271 signatures by now and increasing, i will modify my sig in the forums to take people on the petition

xplode said:
Wow 3271 signatures by now and increasing, i will modify my sig in the forums to take people on the petition
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Great idea! Edited my signature too.

Submitted to The Register, here's hoping!
Edit: They said a few people had mailed in about it, and they'll have a story up about it soon, as it's currently going through their editorial procedure.
Edit 2: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/02/20/ms_roms_to_go/

Was just about to post a link to the article myself - interestingly though, they claim that Microsoft will offer WM6 as an upgrade for a fee, which makes the whole thing a little more interesting, as it now does appear that Crossbow ROMs on here could have an effect on their profitability. So if nothing else, I guess that means that we do have official WM6 updates to look forward to.
Cheers,
Steve.

I for one wouldn't mind paying an upgrade fee, as long as it's reasonable. I got my Vario II a few months ago, so wouldn't expect to pay huge amounts, but a 'reasonable' upgrade fee (£30-50 tops?) would be acceptable in my eyes.
If they do offer the WM6 Hermes upgrade, I'll pay for it. Otherwise I'll probably end up waiting to see if someone can hack it into the phone, and then do it. Either way, I'll be upgrading it - it's Microsoft's choice whether I have a 'legitimate' upgrade path or not.
4724 signatures so far by the way.

[BOUNTY] For Supercurio to fix SGH-T989 Screen Issues + more!!

Donations is completed and supercurio has successfully received the phone and he is currently working on the kernel drivers for the fixes so stay tuned and make sure to fallow his twitter account for more updates. Thanks to everyone that donated and supported the thread. I'm pretty sure supercurio is also thankfull to you guys.
Use this thread to discuss about the fix and also to chit chat about anything related the screen problems on our SGH-T989.

i think you missed the point
Supercurio said Samsung should send him one, not us
he didn't ask us to pitch in for a device
he asked us to contact Samsung and have Samsung send him a device.
found it http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=19142874&postcount=220
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Note: I received a donation but when I tell "I don't have a device" the goal is not really to ask you to pay for it − especially since I have no idea if I'll get results eventually.
I firmly believe it's manufacturer's role to fix it. And the manufacturer here is Sam.. err no; it doesn't really works like that in the US. Manufacturer is T-Mobile.
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AllGamer said:
i think you missed the point
Supercurio said Samsung should send him one, not us
he didn't ask us to pitch in for a device
he asked us to contact Samsung and have Samsung send him a device.
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I didn't not know about this sorry. I guess there is nothing wrong with the community to pitch in for a device....Samsung might not send him one. This is a heck of great community so I'm pretty sure we can all get him the device faster than Samsung.
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there fixed your tittle

How do we go about asking Samsung to do this? I can't just say "hey give supercurio a T989" they wouldn't even know who I'm talking about.
Someone wants to organize this?

i vote for Surfacet to lead this, since he started this topic

The thing is I never done a thread like this before. This is my first thread ever on xda. This thread got sticked? I thought it got removed or something lol.
Lets see supercurio's response. I cant send him a message since he got it disabled
-Algamer
Contacting Samsung was kinda your idea...My idea was to make it a bounty and donate to him for the cause

Social media is a great medium.

Spam Samsung John and Carla anyone? Let's do it.

I'd be willing to donate. Just look how fast the other devs got their bounties, I bet we could get him one in two weeks or less.
Swyped from my iPhone eater
-BeastMOD

Quick note: Galaxy S II audio hardware is not Voodoo Sound capable.
I work only on Super AMOLED plus, awaiting better quality audio chip in the future generations of devices (Voodoo Sound is still in development for supported devices)
Allgamer: if people want to raise funds to send me a device why not. It will always be soon enough to cancel the process if Tmo/Samsung does, and will also demonstrate users determination.
Feel free to contact Samsung reps but please avoid spamming them, it would be severely counter-productive.

As long as you are okay with that, then by all means lets turn this topic into an official [BOUNTY] for Mr. curio

WHERE DO WE DONATE?
The link in Sir Curio's signature is for donating to his Voodoo project, do we need another link for T989 screen issue only, for easier financial consolidation?

There should be another donation link but not sure if super has it or not. I'm waiting for him to give us the link to where to donate so I can put it on the OP.
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As written in the bounty guidelines, I would suggest counting first and then, later, sending the donations.
Its easier than refunding everyone if its canceled for some reason
As I cannot buy this device in France, it would be pretty nice to choose a trusty well known peer who would receive the donations, buy the phone and post it (shipping costs about $35, something like that) in my direction.
I'm listening.

I own Gigahertz Computers in Warner Robins, GA. IV never done any business in the marketplace here but I have an associate with a tmo sgs2 for $400 that is new (opened and played with but spotless and is in the box with receipt where he paid full retail from a walk-in tmo store 2 weeks ago. I have a PayPal account and would be more than happy to take on the responsibility of taking the donations and getting SC the device. I have an eBay account with 44 recent transactions (mostly phones) that is spotless everybody can checkout. Mountdenizen is the screen name. My business is a Mac / mobile device service and support shop and the eBay transactions have been done because of it. Allgamer, I'm not real sure how this all works but IV seen the thread for awhile now and have seen people talking about starting a pot for the device... just thought we may need to take the bull by the horns here. I in no way feel special or entitled to do this, just willing. I'm listening as well. My email is [email protected] and that's also my PayPal account. I'm on here on and off all day (kind of Android obsessed here) so you can contact me anytime. I do think we need to keep everything public and in the forums to keep all parties involved as transparent as possible. Off to bed, ill check back in the A.M.
Sent from my SGH-T989 using xda premium

You guys won't regret getting this guy the device. He will unleash its power. He is one of respectful developers on xda. Check out his work.

I'd be happy to donate a few dollars. I love super's work on the vibrant. Voodoo and voodoo sound just made it top notch.

supercurio said:
As written in the bounty guidelines, I would suggest counting first and then, later, sending the donations.
Its easier than refunding everyone if its canceled for some reason
As I cannot buy this device in France, it would be pretty nice to choose a trusty well known peer who would receive the donations, buy the phone and post it (shipping costs about $35, something like that) in my direction.
I'm listening.
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I would be down to buy it (and throw in some dollars) for you supercurio. Just throwing that out there.

knotphunnie said:
I'd be happy to donate a few dollars. I love super's work on the vibrant. Voodoo and voodoo sound just made it top notch.
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+1
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Nokia just gave 25k Lumia 800's to registered developers

Nokia just gave 25k Lumia 800's to registered developers with them, ordered mine last night. I imagine some of the people here in the running would have been registered?

Nokia Lumia Live ft. deadmau5 lights up London with amazing 4D projection
Tweeqit2 said:
Nokia just gave 25k Lumia 800's to registered developers with them, ordered mine last night. I imagine some of the people here in the running would have been registered?
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This is very intresting! Where can I register to be a Nokia Developer?
I know that the Nokia Lumina 800 & 710 are just 2 of menny great Devices Nokia plans on releseing Running the WP7 OS.
The best devices are yet to come!
I entered 2 of there giveaways on facebook but did'nt win =(
I did'nt know about any developer giveaways. That is realy cool That thay are taking care of there developers like that!
Along with the show in London & all the other promo's Nokia is just amazing
The heck outa me right now! that show in London was Wonderful!
I am no recognised developer hear much like alot of the other developers who have entered the contest but hopefully I will still be consitered.
I can dream another day anyway!
Hopefuly this is a good link to post. just incase you guys missed it.
Enjoy...
Nokia Lumia Live ft. deadmau5 lights up London with amazing 4D projection
http://youtu.be/SX2Gd-kqV5s
Please dont coment on this as I am not trying to derail the thread just wanted to share the Awesomeness!

Where did you see that ?!

ebay
should be chock full of nokias very soon, this is good news for folks looking for a deal !

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should be chock full of nokias very soon, this is good news for folks looking for a deal !
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I've been looking for weeks. I'm ready now.

Guys, if you weren't registered as a Nokia developer before October 26th, forget about it. That is one of the requirements to receive a free phone.

bmstrong said:
I've been looking for weeks. I'm ready now.
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Give it a few days after they're delivered. Devs always sell the freebies after ces/macworld/whatever and enjoy the nice ca$h bonus for christmas or a new phone of their preference.

Tweeqit2 said:
Nokia just gave 25k Lumia 800's to registered developers with them, ordered mine last night. I imagine some of the people here in the running would have been registered?
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Im waiting on mines also. I ordered the same day as you and wondering if Nokia changed your shipping status yet?
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yglup said:
Im waiting on mines also. I ordered the same day as you and wondering if Nokia changed your shipping status yet?
Sent from my MB855 using xda premium
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Status is still the same, I sent the DDP an email earlier today so I'll let you know what they say if there has been a delay or something.
Also to those interested in joining their program the link is here: https://www.developer.nokia.com/Developer_Programs/Launchpad.xhtml
As a member of Nokia Developer Launchpad, you will receive additional benefits like:
Early and exclusive access to e.g. technical information and materials on upcoming technologies.
Two free technical support cases pushed to your account when the membership is activated.
Company members have access to the Device Distribution to purchase Nokia devices at discount for development and testing purposes.
Get invited to key regional and global Nokia events and trainings.
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Keep in mind for this specific give away you had to be registered since at least May to be eligible. I personally joined as soon as I saw the announcement MS scooped them up and they were going WP7.

ohgood said:
Give it a few days after they're delivered. Devs always sell the freebies after ces/macworld/whatever and enjoy the nice ca$h bonus for christmas or a new phone of their preference.
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Ready and waiting for some to pop up. Money is just sitting. The trick is to find one for a resonable price.

i have one...

yglup said:
Im waiting on mines also. I ordered the same day as you and wondering if Nokia changed your shipping status yet?
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Got a response from DDP earlier today:
thanks for your email.
Please note the delivery time is estimated to be around two weeks at the moment.
We have huge number of orders to process and this is the time of public holidays too.
Please be patient, you will be notified once the device is ready to dispatch.
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Looks like we wont have to wait much longer than that.

Just a quick word. people that order the free devices are supposed to give it proper use. Specifically, this particular program is aimed at giving Nokia developers the opportunity to migrate of create new apps for Windows Phone.
If you are not interested to keep the device and do just that, then you are basically taking advantage of a situation that can create a precedence to the point that Nokia may stop making such offerings in the future. I'm not an affiliate from Nokia or work for them btw.
The best way to show Nokia that it is good investment to continue to deliver free or discounted devices to developers is to actually do what you have set to do when you pressed the order button.
Also you should check if you are not in violation of your agreement when you ordered the device. I dont have any idea if its allowed or not to resell the device. I would be surprised if it is.
My 2 cents.

joaocardoso said:
Just a quick word. people that order the free devices are supposed to give it proper use. Specifically, this particular program is aimed at giving Nokia developers the opportunity to migrate of create new apps for Windows Phone.
If you are not interested to keep the device and do just that, then you are basically taking advantage of a situation that can create a precedence to the point that Nokia may stop making such offerings in the future. I'm not an affiliate from Nokia or work for them btw.
The best way to show Nokia that it is good investment to continue to deliver free or discounted devices to developers is to actually do what you have set to do when you pressed the order button.
Also you should check if you are not in violation of your agreement when you ordered the device. I dont have any idea if its allowed or not to resell the device. I would be surprised if it is.
My 2 cents.
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I know people have posted that they want to buy them, I don't know if anyone talked about selling theirs(from the program). I personally am signed up as a developer because I am, and that is just what this phone is going to be used for. I am developing cross-platform applications to broaden my targetable client base so getting a free phone to test on is a god send because I don't actually have the funds to purchase my own.
In any case I do agree with what you said.

joaocardoso said:
Just a quick word. people that order the free devices are supposed to give it proper use. Specifically, this particular program is aimed at giving Nokia developers the opportunity to migrate of create new apps for Windows Phone.
If you are not interested to keep the device and do just that, then you are basically taking advantage of a situation that can create a precedence to the point that Nokia may stop making such offerings in the future. I'm not an affiliate from Nokia or work for them btw.
The best way to show Nokia that it is good investment to continue to deliver free or discounted devices to developers is to actually do what you have set to do when you pressed the order button.
Also you should check if you are not in violation of your agreement when you ordered the device. I dont have any idea if its allowed or not to resell the device. I would be surprised if it is.
My 2 cents.
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When Microsoft handed me and Lumia 800 "for free" they basically wrote on the contract: "loan for 2 years" and that it shall be returned after that which would prevent me from selling it if I ever wanted. Probably something similar for you guys.
Like you said as well; Nokia is showing a lot of good-will and wants to get WP7 off the ground so it would be sad if some of the "devs" would try abusing it.

SvanteH said:
When Microsoft handed me and Lumia 800 "for free" they basically wrote on the contract: "loan for 2 years" and that it shall be returned after that which would prevent me from selling it if I ever wanted. Probably something similar for you guys.
Like you said as well; Nokia is showing a lot of good-will and wants to get WP7 off the ground so it would be sad if some of the "devs" would try abusing it.
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Didn't realize nokia had a contract with the devs in order to receive the free phone. Are there NDA's involved too ? Is a credit card involed or is this tied to the devs payout account from the market (app sales) in any way ?

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Didn't realize nokia had a contract with the devs in order to receive the free phone. Are there NDA's involved too ? Is a credit card involed or is this tied to the devs payout account from the market (app sales) in any way ?
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Honestly I have no clue, I got my phone through a Microsoft programme as part of a deal that whomever managed to get 3 certified apps on the market within a month were to recieve a new Lumia 800. I had to sign a 2-paged contract and the relevant point in it was that you "borrowed it" and wasn't allowed to sell it on.
Nokia might want to protect themselves as well and not just giving out free money to some people, one way is to have a contract that screws over any dev if they sell it.

Just a quick reminder to everyone, any transactions that take place through XDA must happen in the Marketplace forum in a Public thread. This is one thing that is strictly enforced and is for the protection of both parties, as well as XDA.
Please read the Marketplace Rules and then check out the XDA Marketplace if you are looking to buy or sell a device.

Has anyone else that was in on this gotten theirs shipped yet? It's been a little over 2 weeks since they told me 2 weeks but still sitting at 'new order'.

Looks like I spoke too soon! just got my shipping notification, its being sent from TURKU - FINLAND. On another note I looked over the agreement for getting the phone and it looks as if it is treated just as I purchased the phone myself so resale is ok, I still however plan to use the phone for dev.

[REQUEST] LG Optimus F3Q development device

Request for development / porting device
UPDATE 2015-01-29:
We have reached the target for this! Thanks to all!
Device is already bought.
Estimated time to arrive: Between Saturday, Feb. 7 and Monday, Feb. 16
Thanks to all donators !
Those are:
pelago :good:
Zombeezy :good:
joel.maxuel :good:
misbehave :good:
KellyC :good:
ajoh99 :good:
whitelynx :good:
Check out my F3Q threads for updates of development:
sediKERNEL thread
TWRP thread
sediROM for LG thread
To view the original OP:
As mentioned here in my announcement I am not able to develop for the F3Q anymore because I have no device anymore.
The idea would be to sum up what people would spent and using PayPal as donation target. I believe that is the easiest method for kind of that.
Each donation send to me would cost some money on my site but that would be my donation to that.
To be absolutely clear: This donations are not for my work or payment for the work already done!
The reason for this thread is to have the money to buy a development device only. nothing more - nothing less!
I do not want to get rich from this or whatever thats because the whole process will be as transparent as possible to you.
The device will be for development only because I will continue using my Captivate Glide as my daily driver.
That way I can ensure development can be made without problems according to that.
Nevertheless you will not donate for a guarantee that a special thing will happen or developed - I will only guarantee that I continue developing to some day get out the most of the F3Q.
The most important thing about transparency is how I calculate the costs. They are calculated from this offer (the last weeks and months I detected multiple price reductions. I will update the cost list as soon as I get knowledge about a price reduction, of course) : Currently available eBay offer
If you find another cheaper device which can be send to Germany do not hesitate to give me a PM!
If you find a broken device which is still usable (device need to be able to boot, touchscreen must work, display must function) then also do not hesitate to send me a PM!
If you know someone who get that device offered by their mobile provider and he/she want to sell it tell me, too
$ 119.99 - F3Q itself (Cheaper again - since today! 2015-01-22)
$ 11.28 - Shipping to Germany
$ 29.82 - Import charges
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$ 161,09 - Total
+ PayPal Fee's (may or may not be added so I cannot set a sum for this)
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PayPal Fee's:
International Fees:
2.9% transaction fee plus a 1% cross-border fee and/or 2.5% currency conversion.
means in worst case 6,4 % costs for each donation I receive.
or Standard Fee (depends on how the user had paid and from where etc)
2.9 % + 0.30 $ per transaction
not sure which one would met but it will mean that when one donates 10 $ about 0.29 $ to 0.64 $ will be charged by Paypal so that is something we need to keep in mind then.
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Current amount and offers:
TARGET = US $161,09
- $9,31 ($10 - $0,69 paypal fee) from pelago :good: (donation already made)
- $23,72 ($25 - $1,28 paypal fee) from Zombeezy :good: (donation already made)
- $18,92 ($20 - $1,08 paypal fee) from joel.maxuel :good: (donation already made)
- $9,51 ($10 - $0,49 paypal fee) from misbehave :good: (donation already made)
- $47,75 ($50 - $2,25 paypal fee) from KellyC :good: (donation already made)
- $23,72 ($25 - $1,28 paypal fee) from ajoh99 :good: (donation already made)
- $28,53 ($30 - $1,47 paypal fee) from whitelynx :good: (donation already made)
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$161,46 in total - WE GOT IT !! :highfive::highfive::highfive::highfive::highfive:
No additional payments needed! Thx to all again. I keep you updated!
That means we need only: US $ --
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Please reply to this thread with the amount you are willing to donate in US Dollars.
As soon as we have reached the target all of you will be notified in order to start their offered donation shortly.
Donation URL:
You can donate regardless of the fact if we reach the goal or not - but I will not refund anything when we do not reach the goal.
That means if you use the following donation URL that money will be hold until we reached the goal or too much time goes by.
In other words: When we reached the goal your donation will be used for the device - if we not reach the goal in a fair amount of time your money will be "converted" to a "normal" donation.
If you do not like that: no problem simply wait until enough people wrote a donation offer and the global "donation run" will open.
But if you accept all this and you do not want to wait you can donate right now using this link:
As the target is $2 only I strongly believe that this will come true! So if someone is willing to donate that amount do it here:
Donation - URL (click here)
Thanks
xdajog

Can you make my donation $8, to make the numbers a little nicer? Also, although you've hidden the donation link behind a spoiler, it is still there. You might want to completely remove the link it you don't want people donating straight away.

pelago said:
Can you make my donation $8, to make the numbers a little nicer? Also, although you've hidden the donation link behind a spoiler, it is still there. You might want to completely remove the link it you don't want people donating straight away.
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ok done. Regarding the URL you're right. I thinking about opening it from the beginning so if the user do not want to wait until there are enough offers.. If he would accept that the money is not refundable when there are not enough offers it could be ok I think.. may ease up the donation process in whole but I thought it could be a good idea .. not sure though..

I pledge $17.50 USD for now (aka ~20 CAD)...

$20 from me. Wife uses it, and certainly want to encourage continued efforts on this phone.

$10 from me.
Just made the donation on paypal.

Price reduction of the F3Q detected!
This results in about US $20 less then before!
Before: US $185,95 left
Now: only US $161,44 left
As usual:
if you find a cheaper price (including importing charges and delivery) contact me!
US $210,11 in total is the current cheapest offer which is available for shipping to Germany.
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xdajog

Ah, didn't notice that the link to donate is working. I promised $20 so will do the PayPal thing when I get home from work.

donated $50
My n900 is really giving out, and looks like the Neo900 is still quite a long ways out (besides being probably $800+)
So I might have to go Android
But I require a physical kb, and I would far rather use CyanogenMod than stock, so.

I can pledge $25. I challenge someone out there to match me! Let's get this done!
Just started using this phone as my daily driver and love it. Can't wait to see what else we can accomplish with it.

OK, finally got off my butt and donated. I said I'd donate $20 but made it $25.

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OK, finally got off my butt and donated. I said I'd donate $20 but made it $25.
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thanks! I updated the thread.
woot! I detected a dramatic price reduction!! Instead of needing about $ 200 we now need $ 161,09 only! It means the device gets about $ 30 cheaper since the last time checked and because it got cheaper the delivery and duty is also less so we have in fact a reduction of about $ 40 ..
So to sum up: now we only need US $ 36,44. That seems to be somehow possible.. ?!
Greetings

Considering CAD<->USD exchange rate keeps getting worse, I figured I'd donate now. $20 coming your way @xdajog.

I'll donate $30; that should cover the remainder.
Good luck with continuing development!
Edit: Donated.

It seems that although I was the first to pledge money, I was the only one to have not paid in advance! So I have just paid my pledged $8 and an additional $2. Hopefully this will allow you to buy your device.
I haven't actually got one myself, although I'm tempted at that ebay offer you found (I'm in UK). If only it had more internal memory, a backlit keyboard, and better specs in general...

pelago said:
It seems that although I was the first to pledge money, I was the only one to have not paid in advance! So I have just paid my pledged $8 and an additional $2. Hopefully this will allow you to buy your device.
I haven't actually got one myself, although I'm tempted at that ebay offer you found (I'm in UK). If only it had more internal memory, a backlit keyboard, and better specs in general...
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thx. highly appreciated!
no you are not the last one Unofrtunately @ajoh99 has problems with using paypal (and I'm not able to offer any other payment service..) so when his/her pledge has arrived I can finally really buy it.

Success! Got my paypal to go through. Good job everyone!
-ajoh99

Device is already bought.
Estimated time to arrive: Between Saturday, Feb. 7 and Monday, Feb. 16
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Device is already bought.
Estimated time to arrive: Between Saturday, Feb. 7 and Monday, Feb. 16
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Awesome, thanks!

xdajog,
What is the status of this project?
I ask because I'm looking to replace my Mozilla Flame with a new Android device (and port FireFoxOS to it), and in order for that to happen, I need Cyanogenmod compatibility.
I'm between this and the Samsung Galaxy S4 Mini, though I'd prefer the LG F3Q 1000-fold because it has a QWERTY keyboard!
Thanks!