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[Q] Install bada on samsung star

Can we install bada os on samsung star?but i don't know anything about hardware & software

no and not possible. sell you star and buy a wave 525 if you would like to try the bada os

how much differences between Wave 525 and Star Wifi 2 ?

Bada
It's need to disassemble the code and than to assemble it again with Bada..

Everything is possible.
But answer here is no. Noone will spend hundreds of hours so few people can enjoy bada on some phone.
Ah btw. If that's custom Samsung OS phone - probably it does contain bada in early versions. When it wasn't called bada yet, but Mocha.

[Advice]Buy wave or not?

My older thread didn't help me much and this might help me more because now, i'm going to buy a phone within this week but i'm thinking of buying Wave, because of it's 1 ghz cortex a8 processor and GPu PowerVR sgx 540 which is proven to be the fastest among single core processors (not including tegra). To be hoenst, PowerVR sgx 540 performs just like tegra 2 GPU and is more or less the same GPU used in iphone 4.
Question is, which one to buy? keeping in mind that android is comming to wave sooner or later, what do you guys say? do you think android would work on wave (dual boot) so that the bada OS is also secured. Now my options are:
-LG optimus one (around 170$)(wifi is b/g only)
-Samsung wave (Around 299$)
-Samsung galaxy ace (349$)
-Samsung galaxy mini (around 179$)
These are the only phones i want to choose from because others are either expensive or useless (not android). I don't think that galaxy ace would be a very good choice despite the fact that it has no flash support (decreases 50% surfing on internet). About wave is that, bada sucks for now as there aren't cool widgets, apps available. About Optimus One, it is cheap, which is a good thing but the pixels are way too low and it runs a 600mhz processor which cannot run at least 50% of the good games without lag.
Now i can only trust you guys to help me as this will allow me to choose my phone and i really want some good suggestions. Thanks a lot in advance

> Bada Software and Hacking General (No noobs here)
> Asking advice about buy a Samsung Wave
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Otacon_ahs said:
> Bada Software and Hacking General (No noobs here)
> Asking advice about buy a Samsung Wave
nope.avi
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Sorry i didn't understand what you mean by "nope.avi" and tbh you seem like a noob to me and yet you're making a useless post
It's too bad that there's no Q & A section for bada or i could've made a thread there :/

keeping in mind that android is comming to wave sooner or later
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shad0wboss
If you wish Android on Wave (II) you need to wait... long, loooonger, very loooooooooooooooong.
So the answer is later. Much later.
If you can't wait. Then your first choice should be an Android handset.
And yes, sorry. Its very hard to answer as normally we are in Software&Hacking section of XDA...
And this is your second try and buy Thread.
Best Regards

adfree said:
shad0wboss
If you wish Android on Wave (II) you need to wait... long, loooonger, very loooooooooooooooong.
So the answer is later. Much later.
If you can't wait. Then your first choice should be an Android handset.
And yes, sorry. Its very hard to answer as normally we are in Software&Hacking section of XDA...
And this is your second try and buy Thread.
Best Regards
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Thanks for your reply, also the project you're working on, does it apply to wave II as well or only for Wave?

Android project is at very very early stadium.
Pre pre Alpha... and oleg_k is the only person who have seen Android on his Wave. NO ONE else.
I have no idea when second person can confirm running Android on Wave.
oleg_k uses additional Hardware called JTAG.
Costs around 200 Euro... see here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=898996
We all have to wait. Maybe weeks, maybe months...
Best Regards

Currently all android ports being worked on are for wave I. So if you are buying waveII, you will have to wait much longer.
Now on your opinion to buy a handset,
1)Do not buy wave in the hope of getting android in it later or sooner. We don't know all the problems we might face after loading android onto our phones. So if you want Android, go for galaxy ace.
2)Bada has a scope of improvement and you can see its progres by taking a look at the app store. Every week some new good games are coming, either ports or original stuff. Now Bada has apps like Fruit Ninja, Plants vs. Zombies, Doodle Jump and many other games which people were longing to see on the samsung app store. Eventually, more apps will arrive. But don't buy Wave if your only interest is apps and widgets. If you can give bada some time, then you can go on to buy the wave.
3)And if you are looking for a rock solid hardware, go for Wave! Wave's hardware can't be matched by any other single core phones for now. The wave in fact has a better gpu than Iphone 4. So Wave is the best bet for your budget. Also the screen quality and Multimedia experience is really amazing. Also its out of the box ability to play almost all of the video formats including Divx HD and Xvid along with subtitles will make you want to buy the Wave. Remember that currently Bada has few problems in properly utilizing the RAM. So you might get memory errors sometimes even though it has more than 512 MB of ram on it. I don't know if the memory issues have been solved on Wave II or not but atleast Wave currently faces this problem.
So now you are left to your choice. My personal recommendation is the Wave! I am saying this after using an Iphone 4(Which got stolen ), an HTC Desire and now my beloved Wave!

My opinion is go with wave because it has wonderful design and no other samsung phones has better design like wave. also bada 2.0 looks more promising..
Maybe we can get android on wave within weeks but it will be pre alpha version and you cant expect all functionalities work and maybe few functionalities will never work.
Multimedia side wave rocks. but if you interested in apps then go for android device..Now your choice

scout for a dual processor

Got Wave II for some days. The biggest problem is lack of apps for bada, which is semi rapidly fixed, samsung is spending alot of cash into its development, so it is getting better month by month (comparing bada 1.0 to 1.2 for eg.).
It has got very powerful CPU and GPU, but haven't seen yet a game that uses more than like 30% of its power, but if you don't mind about games and weird apps like remote sattelite controllers which for sure can be found for Android. If you only want to have smoothly running device with some gadgets - I do recommend it.
astrotom said:
Currently all android ports being worked on are for wave I. So if you are buying waveII, you will have to wait much longer.
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As far as I know Wave II is the same hardware as Wave I, except the LCD display. So port for Wave I = port for Wave II with abit different LCD driver.

Rebellos said:
Got Wave II for some days. The biggest problem is lack of apps for bada, which is semi rapidly fixed, samsung is spending alot of cash into its development, so it is getting better month by month (comparing bada 1.0 to 1.2 for eg.).
It has got very powerful CPU and GPU, but haven't seen yet a game that uses more than like 30% of its power, but if you don't mind about games and weird apps like remote sattelite controllers which for sure can be found for Android. If you only want to have smoothly running device with some gadgets - I do recommend it.
As far as I know Wave II is the same hardware as Wave I, except the LCD display. So port for Wave I = port for Wave II with abit different LCD driver.
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The hardware might seem equal from outside but there are many internal differences. The main feature still remain the same. If wave II = wave I, then 1.2 update would be available to wave I users as soon as wave II was released. But that is not the case. Wave II use different boot loaders and firmware files. So please read through the forum before to get more info.

port WP7 on wave is it possible?

why we want to port WP7 on wave?
1. at this moment all wp7 phones use same CPU (QSD 8250) and it's GPU was "Adreno 200" --- (SGX543MP2(iPad2) > SGX 543 = Adreno 220 > SGX540 (@300MHz) > Geforce ULP [Tegra2] > SGX 540 (@200MHz) = Mali -400 >> Adreno 205 > SGX 535 >> Adreno 200 = SGX 530.)
2. Our wave have the SGX540 GPU,if wp7 port on wave i think it'll more fast than Adreno 200
3. i hear some news ,microsoft will Release a tool it can port almost all android APP to WP7 so in the Future WP7 will be the NO1
4. wp7 more fast than android
I known it's very hard to do ,it just my opinion if it's wrong please forgive me
sorry for my bad english

3 or 4 users work on Android port, without full function... so NOT successfully finished. Since months.
If you have free time, please start with your project to port WP7...
We all count on you.
Good Luck

Its very hard to port the WP7 to wave because WP7 used only qualcomm processer so far but wave using hummingbird processer..porting android is somewhat easier than WP7 because galaxy s and wave almost share the same hardware..also i dont think you can achieve solid performance in wave with other os..

yes winphone 7 has 18 points at the html5 test, even bada 1.2 has 187 very inteligent. a system that can nothing even playing divx to port it on a device that has a system that can more. you should by a phone7 device, than we all are happy.

Of course, bada is a good system

I think that we don't obtain a significative advance in porting Windows Phone 7 to our waves, because Win7 doesn't have much more apps and it is not as extended as Android. You can try with MeeGo or Maemo but the result will be the same: not a really benefit.
The only OSs which are really interesting are iOS (extremely difficult to port) and Android (which oleg_k and the other devs are working at).

yes android is the best os to port, and maybe ios, would also be possible the wave and iphone are nearly the same in things of hardware.

Porting ANY closed-source operating system is next to impossible. The effort required for such a task is way out of scale and would require dozens of high class experts doing disassembly and binary patching, custom drivers, etc.
Phones hardware platforms are based on dedicated PCB layouts and even having same components in different phones gives no guarantee they are connected same way, to same processor PINs, not mentioning that same processor types come in different packaging. When the phone is not based on the very SAME board as 'donor' device, you can simply forget about putting closed-source OS there.

what about mango, tango, apollo?

what about mango, tango, apollo?
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Yes, very easy task. Also Zumba, Pumba and Dumba possible.
Best Regards

adfree said:
Yes, very easy task. Also Zumba, Pumba and Dumba possible.
Best Regards
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I think the only possible OS besides Android is maybe HP's WebOS. Even if it's half losed source, it's built on top of linux just as Android and the root image is accessible (I already downloaded it ). But even this would be a risky project, as the kernel is not the same version (WebOS 2.2.1 is built on 2.6.29 if I remember well) and the video driver and phone part is totally different...

adfree said:
Yes, very easy task. Also Zumba, Pumba and Dumba possible.
Best Regards
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LOL!!! i didnt ask if its possible or not. but they said porting wp7 is not interesting .
maybe pumba possible? )

adfree said:
Yes, very easy task. Also Zumba, Pumba and Dumba possible.
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what about Mumba, Sumba and Kumba ??

ispanecaaaa said:
what about Mumba, Sumba and Kumba ??
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And there we go... Now microsoft have to choose new names for windows 7.2, 7.3 and 7.4 :-/ ;-p

duxxyuk said:
And there we go... Now microsoft have to choose new names for windows 7.2, 7.3 and 7.4 :-/ ;-p
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Pumba would be great

LOL... DUMBa is a great name for the next microsoft release
i can´t see any advantage is porting wp7 to wave
in fact the only advantages i see in porting android is because of the zillion apps available and the fact its an open OS
if i could have all those apps (or even half..) for bada, i would keep bada
i tried some android phones and some wm7 phones and i feel them slower than my wave 8500
the only 1 that feels as speedy as the wave is the iphone 4

ispanecaaaa said:
what about Mumba, Sumba and Kumba ??
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lol

yes i found some opensource apps, maybe some of them can be ported easy, the games should be easier cause they all using opengl, thank god that the opensource community exists.

my brother has a wp7 phone and i love it. i search through the market and it has lot of interesting games and apps(wp7 was released after bada). imo its much better than bada.

73nokian said:
my brother has a wp7 phone and i love it. i search through the market and it has lot of interesting games and apps(wp7 was released after bada). imo its much better than bada.
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So sell bada phone and buy something with WP. Nobody keep you here

Bada 2.0 for low-end devices

Look what i have found after starting the store, i have made a master reset to look at it, yesterday i have seen it but was not sure if it is true, it seems realy that they are developing bada 2.0 demo apps on the wave 525 read the text bellow, i cannot say yet it will come but it seems so.
sometimes i dont believe myself, thats why i had tried it again.

Well, possibly there is just a possibility to run middle-class apps at Wave/Wave II

What do you mean?
Spider Man with 500 MB is a middle range game?
All bada 1.2 will be supported as stock. No magic behind.

larioteo said:
Spider Man with 500 MB is a middle range game?
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But it's tested on low-end device as you see in messagebox

hmm
developed on xxx binary and didn't passed qa-test,
have you developed an app? GPS Status wifi discover need maybe 1 mb of memory, why they should be developed on high end devices?
there are only 15 apps or so for testing demo apps, no real one, it is a demo store, also wac 2.0 apps that are only on bada 2.0 available, this topic here should show that bada comes on low end devices.
and an image that is autoscalled from such a small resulution doesnt look good, rather the devs will use the other way scalling down from an higher this looks also good as the other way, but bada 2.0 offers the same api for every device, i dont see disadvantages in supporting every device.

it will be for low end devices becouse its compatible with emulator

oh lariateo if i have 525 with bada 2.0 will it support middle range games? i mean fruit ninjja or angry birds becouse the low end devices android (galaxy mini) supports...

all games without opengl usage, i dont know what games uses it and what not sorry. and i am also not sure about, it is standing so in store, but there dont stands anything about bada 2.0, only the wac applications 2.0 could be an indicate that there are version for lowend devices. cause wac exists since 2.0 on bada.

larioteo said:
What do you mean?
Spider Man with 500 MB is a middle range game?
All bada 1.2 will be supported as stock. No magic behind.
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Well, I mean that apps developed for the middle class badaphones could be run on high-end class phones with bada 2.0.

but what is wac 2.0?

gamemaster98
http://www.wacapps.net/web/portal

we will have 3x2 images per page? or 4?

Bada 2.0 Inside Info

Bada 2.0 Inside Info.
Posted by Samsung on August 10, 2011 at 1:10 PM
•The program “chaton” is similar to “whatsapp” style in which you can add friends through their mobile numbers and you can chat with them. At present, unfortunately app is in development stage and will be finished within the release of bada 2.0 with graphical interface
•At present bada Os cannot be adapted to dual core processors, Bad news for those expecting wave III with dual core processor.
•The bada firmwares which appeared on net are most likely not leaked from Samsung, but from some partners as bada 2.0 is getting developed in fairly large number of other partners
•Wave III will presented this year a little later, and will be one of the most advanced mobile phones available in the market. Which allow you to feel the benefits of bada 2.0
•Final version of bada 2.0 will support live wallpapers
•80% of bada 2.0 development is carried out in South Korea and other 20% work in India
http://badamobile.wordpress.com/2011/08/09/bada-2-0-inside-info/
source: http://www.samfirmware.com/apps/blog/show/8025449-bada-2-0-inside-info-