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I read a news from the following link
http://marmarday.com/?p=7239
It says N1 will be updated to Android 2.2 on the Horizon, and what about the Desire?
i think it will but there will be a slight delay as HTC need to update Sense to work with 2.2 whereas the N1 has no overlays so can be updated as soon as the update is released
daming said:
I read a news from the following link
http://marmarday.com/?p=7239
It says N1 will be updated to Android 2.2 on the Horizon, and what about the Desire?
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daming said:
I read a news from the following link
http://marmarday.com/?p=7239
It says N1 will be updated to Android 2.2 on the Horizon, and what about the Desire?
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I wouldn't count on that.
HTC Hero used to be the top of the line before the Legend and the Desire came out. I think the Hero was launched in September, but until now the latest """Rumors""" say it will be updated to 2.1 in June.
Not to mention, android 1.5 on the Hero has limitations, which naturally should become a reason for updating, but yet, that wasn't good enough.
So worrying about it is just a waste of callories
But when the Desire gets rooted, we'll have plently of cooked 2.2, 2.5... etc Roms
If 2.2 is when their "Defragmentation Solving" thing comes into effect then probably yes.
Because in theory, HTC wouldn't have to do anything, sense and all the apps would happily run on top of 2.2 as separate apps.
They had better... Flash 10.1, DivX and 720p recording depend on it.
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If 2.2 is when their "Defragmentation Solving" thing comes into effect then probably yes.
Because in theory, HTC wouldn't have to do anything, sense and all the apps would happily run on top of 2.2 as separate apps.
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Still, it will take HTC alot of work to migrate to 2.2 in the first place. After which defragmentation concept can be applied.
Anyway, the complexity of it will be clear when that feature is out.
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They had better... Flash 10.1, DivX and 720p recording depend on it.
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Did you read this somewhere?
salahag said:
Did you read this somewhere?
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Flash 10.1 is definitley in FroYo. DivX and 720P recording was something HTC promised to be released in an update after the desire was launched so to me it makes sense that FroYo would be the update.
Look at it this way...HTC supposedly take such a long time because they build Sense to integrate tightly with the underlying OS. It's hooked in. The direction Google is taking is going to mean Sense is a separate self standing app/service...so HTC now have to re-write it probably from the ground up. That's not a trivial task if that's what this means.
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Flash 10.1 is definitley in FroYo. DivX and 720P recording was something HTC promised to be released in an update after the desire was launched so to me it makes sense that FroYo would be the update.
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You're right, all these are promised to be coming to the Desire, and Flash 10.1 is rumored to be coming to Nexus 1 with Froyo.
But that doesn't mean all these features require the update to Froyo, at least I hope so, or the Desire will have to wait for a long time.
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I wouldn't count on that.
HTC Hero used to be the top of the line before the Legend and the Desire came out. I think the Hero was launched in September, but until now the latest """Rumors""" say it will be updated to 2.1 in June.
Not to mention, android 1.5 on the Hero has limitations, which naturally should become a reason for updating, but yet, that wasn't good enough.
So worrying about it is just a waste of callories
But when the Desire gets rooted, we'll have plently of cooked 2.2, 2.5... etc Roms
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I agree with you, waiting for 'rooted'.
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I agree with you, waiting for 'rooted'.
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I can't wait to root mine. Good thing is that it won't affect the warranty unlike the Nexus One.
I REALLY hope that the seperated update stuff will be here sooner than later. I am actually quite surprised since I got the Hero that it's not in Android to start with.
And it's the only way Google can avoid fragmentation, which imho is one of the biggest threat to the platform so far.
Warranty issue also depends on where you live. They can put in as much warranty void thingies in as they want. But when my phone has a hardware issue and they don't want to fix because I changed something in the software they will be in trouble. And then they can try and prove my software change damaged the hardware.
I thought it was the other way around?
abc27 said:
I can't wait to root mine. Good thing is that it won't affect the warranty unlike the Nexus One.
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Also, don't forget that HTC has access to early builds and source of future versions because they are building terminals based on it. Porting Sense is probably being done right now, they don't have to wait like we do.
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I thought it was the other way around?
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It's not check the thread I made "Rooting and warranty statement"
My missus works for Vodafone and had a visit from HTC last week promoting the Legend and Desire. They told her that 2.2 would be coming to both but she didn't think to ask when.
So, yes.
Noiz said:
My missus works for Vodafone and had a visit from HTC last week promoting the Legend and Desire. They told her that 2.2 would be coming to both but she didn't think to ask when.
So, yes.
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Your wife has made many people here very happy...
Joking aside that's really good news
I feel I should w8 will it allow apps 2sd?
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Depends how long you're willing to wait
Froyo should include A2SD, but who knows when HTC comes up with the 2.2 upgrade for Desire.
this is true...however should b fairly quick its the flag ship Android mobile can't see another 4release in conjunction with 2.2 release
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I'm waiting ;-). Everything that I need the phone to do, it does... SO no real need to update as of yet. Will probably wait for official updates as I prefer official releases (possibly less bugs etc)
Moved to General Desire Forum.
Don't see where this hooks into Development or Rom cooking.
sorry thought it was ok here
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Isn't the whole point of 2.2(FroYo) that the Android segmentation is abolished and that we would be downloading Sense UI from the market.
If this is true we should all expect 2.2 the moment it is released as it will be a generic, basic Google ROM, then we would just have to wait for HTC to update Sense for 2.2 and we would be able to download that and off we go!
I am not sure if I am correct but this is the way I understood Android to be going.
i am actually, kinda scared of rooting im not 100% sure but seen somwhere a news bout release being sometime in the summer may-june think it was
I'm of those waiting... unless I can find a quick, simple and automated way of backing up and restoring everything about my current phone fast, it 'ain't happening until I see 2.2.
Many other reasons... including too many unknowns, unsubstantiated unclears, bricking not being an option for me in these months and so forth.
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Dont bank on HTC being quick to update the Desire. They dont have a tradition of updating their top models any faster than their lower models, and we all know how slow they are with those!
That is the big deal. Android 2.2 will come maybe next month, but when HTC 'come' with their update, who knows...
rovex said:
Dont bank on HTC being quick to update the Desire. They dont have a tradition of updating their top models any faster than their lower models, and we all know how slow they are with those!
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The big difference here is the existence of the Nexus One, which will get an update pretty much straight away.
Since the Desire is very close hardware wise to the Nexus One, I'd hope that it wouldn't take too long to "Sensify" 2.2 and get an update out to Desire users. Failing that, if you're rooted, they'll be cooked 2.2 Nexus ROMs out for the Desire in fairly short order.
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Dave
I was waiting, but ended up rooting tonight. I reckon SetCPU alone was worth rooting for.
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I was waiting, but ended up rooting tonight. I reckon SetCPU alone was worth rooting for.
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Actually, SetCPU will have no effect when running on rooted Desires.
When I pull the sliders across, it seems to have no effect, and the green max and min frequencies remain unchanged. HTC has a driver that they implement which keeps overriding SetCPU. We need to hope they (HTC) release the Kernel source. Once this happens, there will surely be a release of a modified Kernel with SetCPU support and overclocking/undervolting (assuming the CPUs in the Desire are binned the same way as the CPUs in the Nexus, this should yield a 10% overclock and better battery life).
Problem is HTC is really slow in releasing the source, it's borderline, illegal, and very irritating.
Mastoid said:
Actually, SetCPU will have no effect when running on rooted Desires.
When I pull the sliders across, it seems to have no effect, and the green max and min frequencies remain unchanged. HTC has a driver that they implement which keeps overriding SetCPU.
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I probably don't know what I'm talking about, but my sliders seem to work fine. The widget display claims my speeds are scaling too, and my battery life seems remarkably improved, though that could be due to running the MCR. I don't know.
[EDIT] I see what you mean about the sliders now. Battery life still seems better though?
Ramedge said:
Isn't the whole point of 2.2(FroYo) that the Android segmentation is abolished and that we would be downloading Sense UI from the market.
If this is true we should all expect 2.2 the moment it is released as it will be a generic, basic Google ROM, then we would just have to wait for HTC to update Sense for 2.2 and we would be able to download that and off we go!
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I wouldn't have thought so. I wouldn't like to be Orange, dealing with thousands of customers who updated their phone (or had their phone automatically apply an update) and who've suddenly lost functionality/apps etc.
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I wouldn't have thought so. I wouldn't like to be Orange, dealing with thousands of customers who updated their phone (or had their phone automatically apply an update) and who've suddenly lost functionality/apps etc.
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See I thought this was the whole point of FroYo. We all get the basic Google Rom (maybe with a few service provider tweaks) then we download UI of our choice from the market.
Apart from service providers having to mess around with the Rom there's no reason why we should be waiting for months to get it. Most people in this thread seem to give the impression that we won't see 2.2 for ages while HTC upgrade Sense(I assume there's a few ex-hero users in here). This isn't true though, we'll be running 2.2 and waiting for a download of sense via the market. yeah?
Dont bank on HTC being quick to update the Desire. They dont have a tradition of updating their top models any faster than their lower models, and we
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The big difference here is the existence of the Nexus One, which will get an update pretty much straight away.
Since the Desire is very close hardware wise to the Nexus One, I'd hope that it wouldn't take too long to "Sensify" 2.2 and get an update out to Desire users. Failing that, if you're rooted, they'll be cooked 2.2 Nexus ROMs out for the Desire in fairly short order.
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Dave
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the only problem with this is... nexus one is updated by GOOGLE and the desire is not.... the nexus one will be the first to get 2.2 and from there im betting other devices wont see it till acouple months later...i bet the droid will see it before the desire...sense ui jus slows down the update process..
I can't wait until Froyo gets here!!!
ceas909 said:
the only problem with this is... nexus one is updated by GOOGLE and the desire is not.... the nexus one will be the first to get 2.2 and from there im betting other devices wont see it till acouple months later...i bet the droid will see it before the desire...sense ui jus slows down the update process..
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Can I ask why you think this? I reckon we'll get 2.2 the same time as the Nexus . If everything I've read about 2.2 is correct then Sense will just be released to the market when it's updated for us to download.
am I really wrong or the only person in this thread who understands what's going on with 2.2?
Latest info from twitter, if anyone was interested.
... then it means generic update comes even earlier ! tweet
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I'm not going to get my hopes up...
First they said late April - early May... then they changed it to mid May...
Now that mid May is here they prolonged it to late May...
I wonder what they'll say at the end of May... early June maybe...
No one ever keeps their word...
3 UK said they received the HTC Desire stock Gingerbread ROM back in March, this means HTC has the WWE ROM ready but they didn't released it until now, and who knows when they will... if ever. Not to mention the fact that the Desire will not receive the Sense 2.0/2.1 update together with the Gingerbread update. I mean, was that so hard, they had the time, and I'm completely sure that the Desire hardware supports it. But they just don't want to, it's all a marketing plan.
All the members of the Desire family should've got the Sense 2.1 update, but NO.
Now Google comes up saying they will somehow try to convince the phone manufacturers to update their devices in a timely manner, yeah right...
well.. agree with you.
the reason underlying why HTC hv not released gb for desire yet may be thinking of giving an advance to Desire-S, imo..
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iLHaNroID said:
well.. agree with you.
the reason underlying why HTC hv not released gb for desire yet may be thinking of giving an advance to Desire-S, imo..
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Luckily the devs here are at least as good as HTC
who needs official gingerbread whe you have almost perfect cooked roms..
snakeeyes21 said:
who needs official gingerbread whe you have almost perfect cooked roms..
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I agree, alot purer roms with less rubbish from networks
snakeeyes21 said:
who needs official gingerbread whe you have almost perfect cooked roms..
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it's just easier when stock ROM has everything you need...
iLHaNroID said:
well.. agree with you.
the reason underlying why HTC hv not released gb for desire yet may be thinking of giving an advance to Desire-S, imo..
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or the bugs still present in the rom, eg compass being broken on gingerbread
Who actually cares about the compass in all honesty?? I don't think I've ever used it except in Google Maps - which works fine
Compass is broken on many different devices (but maybe not on all devices of the same type), anyway without compass navigating is pretty tedious
Not only compass, but also GPS drivers, 2 sec answer delay fix, maybe better graphics libs.
2 second delay is fixed in the Sense ROMs
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2 second delay is fixed in the Sense ROMs
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Good to hear -
I guess desire is on its way out as a "cutting edge" device. Still pretty sure we'll get most of the new features via custom ROMs (i'm running baadnewz's sense 2.1/3.0 rom and it has lots of the "new" sense already...), but there's no point waiting for your carrier to release updates for a phone thats been in the market for well over a year. I'm with telstra (australia) and i rooted and got froyo running a good two months before telstra released it.
Reply's I had from 3uk,
End of May with sense 2.1. Fingers crossed.
tinky1 said:
Reply's I had from 3uk,
End of May with sense 2.1. Fingers crossed.
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I think its a 'believe it when we see it' kind of thing though
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I think its a 'believe it when we see it' kind of thing though
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Same here, hence crossed fingers.
From 3uk blog
Moderator: Johanna on April 20, 2011
We’ve been told by HTC that the Desire HD and Desire will have Sense 2.1 and not 3.0, but the Sensation will have Sense 3.0.
maybe that's the reason it's late again - that they've decided to include sense 2.1 in it
To be honest, I can't see them putting sense 2.1 on desire, space is to precious, unless they implement some sort of a2sd+
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I'm sure most of you have the heard the fiasco already baout how htc have cancelled the gingerbread update for the desire they have been working on (which was due this month) due to "memory restraints" of having both sense and gingerbread . . . . .
Iv asked this question numorous times but everyone is too angry to answer, Does this only effect the original desire? Or are g2/desire Z users also not receiving gingerbread?
No, only the ORIGINAL desire, for some reason even hd users were freaking out.
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I hope not! Our phones are a much more advanced chipset so it may be ok.
Saying that, I haven't seen a leaked build past the .1 release. The g2 is at .8 final
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Nospin said:
No, only the ORIGINAL desire, for some reason even hd users were freaking out.
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I hope your right as I'm planning to buy a desireZ soon!
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I hope not! Our phones are a much more advanced chipset so it may be ok.
Saying that, I haven't seen a leaked build past the .1 release. The g2 is at .8 final
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Well yeah we do have the 2nd gen processor but afaik the problem was internal memory (ROM) that gingerbread and sense could not both fit. Do the desireZ/g2 have more internal memory then original desire?
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Well yeah we do have the 2nd gen processor but afaik the probly was internal memory (ROM) that gingerbread and sense could not both fit. Do the desireZ/g2 have more internal memory then original desire?
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They specifically quote RAM (EDIT: Incorrect) which is the same amount as us. The chipset will also use some of the 512MB we have. Could be tight...
[EDIT] No, reading more into it, its ROM [/EDIT]
We have 1GB more ROM that the Desire though.
Craig
If you read some of the posts on the HTC Facebook page, while understandably there is a lot of anger, people are quoting unreasonable comments.
Its a brilliant advert to XDA Developers on there at the moment, but its worth thinking that most of the XDA community ROMS are severely hacked around to work. Most Sense ROMS require EXT3 partitions on SD cards to function. You'll need a pretty quick SD card for that to work.
Also, the Wildfire S is compared which is a device released a year after with Gingerbread specially written for it. It also has much newer hardware inside it!
To be honest (and I'll be flamed beyond belief for this) they really should be grateful HTC tried to upgrade it. They'd be a bit more p***ed off if HTC released it and it was rubbish, or just ignored it saying buy a newer device. In my opinion, HTC should now issue an unlocked bootloader for people to more easily install 3rd party ROMS (along with "break it you're on your own"). This will restore some confidence in HTC's upgrade schedule.
Still Waiting for GB on our DZ ( also, Polaris running stock GB ),
Craig
craiglay said:
If you read some of the posts on the HTC Facebook page, while understandably there is a lot of anger, people are quoting unreasonable comments.
Its a brilliant advert to XDA Developers on there at the moment, but its worth thinking that most of the XDA community ROMS are severely hacked around to work. Most Sense ROMS require EXT3 partitions on SD cards to function. You'll need a pretty quick SD card for that to work.
Also, the Wildfire S is compared which is a device released a year after with Gingerbread specially written for it. It also has much newer hardware inside it!
To be honest (and I'll be flamed beyond belief for this) they really should be grateful HTC tried to upgrade it. They'd be a bit more p***ed off if HTC released it and it was rubbish, or just ignored it saying buy a newer device. In my opinion, HTC should now issue an unlocked bootloader for people to more easily install 3rd party ROMS (along with "break it you're on your own"). This will restore some confidence in HTC's upgrade schedule.
Still Waiting for GB on our DZ ( also, Polaris running stock GB ),
Craig
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Fantastic post sir!
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When is the next official update for HTC Desire?
There will be no more updates, unless bug fixes.
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There will be no more updates, unless bug fixes.
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Thanks for these good news
htc dropped support for htc desire.. too old.. it is a shame
yeahman45 said:
htc dropped support for htc desire.. too old.. it is a shame
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Well realistically... what did you expect?
bortak said:
Well realistically... what did you expect?
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Well realistically, what should I say? Well done Htc? -.-
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Well realistically, what should I say? Well done Htc? -.-
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How about:
well yeah, you built a great device which served me well and was well supported during it's lifespan, but now I understand you have other phones to sell?
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Well realistically, what should I say? Well done Htc? -.-
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Don't have to say anything, what you should do however is stop moaning - what's the use of official updates for you when we have so many custom ROM's, and with you being here, it's suggesting you are the user of them. Did you really expect HTC push out ICS to a 2 year old phone, when they barely gave it GB, and not even an OTA update? The Samsung Galaxy S didn't get it either - this phone is dated and unsupported, get used to it, and if you don't like it get a new phone.
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Don't have to say anything, what you should do however is stop moaning - what's the use of official updates for you when we have so many custom ROM's, and with you being here, it's suggesting you are the user of them. Did you really expect HTC push out ICS to a 2 year old phone, when they barely gave it GB, and not even an OTA update? The Samsung Galaxy S didn't get it either - this phone is dated and unsupported, get used to it, and if you don't like it get a new phone.
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ROFL
bortak said:
Don't have to say anything, what you should do however is stop moaning - what's the use of official updates for you when we have so many custom ROM's, and with you being here, it's suggesting you are the user of them. [...] this phone is dated and unsupported, get used to it, and if you don't like it get a new phone.
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+1
If they had to keep trying to squish new versions on all their older devices, HTC would be working on that instead of developing. All the other phones is the same. Some of it is hardware related and the amount of effort necessary to try to get a stable and bugfree Rom.
Wait a sec... I am beginning to feel we just fed a troll... :O tell me it ain't so!
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If they had to keep trying to squish new versions on all their older devices, HTC would be working on that instead of developing. All the other phones is the same. Some of it is hardware related and the amount of effort necessary to try to get a stable and bugfree Rom.
Wait a sec... I am beginning to feel we just fed a troll... :O tell me it ain't so!
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Either that or someone who does not comprehend the advancement of technology, and the constraints the desire faces with newer software, and the lack of motivation from HTC, and really any other handset maker to support 2y/of phones.