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Any word yet on Android 2.2

Is there going to be an upgrade for the desire ?
Would love that ! (Flash)
Any body got some info ?

of course will be, the question is when?

thats quick ....

Are we talking months or weeks untill 'droid 2.2 comes out
The internet is being a bit tight lipped.
The deisre is lovely, but not finished yet.
flash is nice, divx is vital and 720p video is something I wsan't expecting...
How are we going to get it when its released?
Will it be a user ROM style hardware flash through PC sync or will i just download a file to my phone, click go and 10minutes later my phone is amazing??
(i'm having fun wiping smug faces of iphone owning freinds as they ask what phone I have and i show them, then tell them I've got it for £15/mnth )

you'll get it here on XDA as usual. ready to be flashed on your device as any other ROM

2.2 aka Froyo: maybe next week!!!
I read this on engadget:
Engadget's post about Froyo
I don't really want to root my phone as it's I think really good as it is but I wouldn't say no to Froyo! especially since it apparently boosts performance a lot!
Quote form Engadget: "Update: How much faster is a Nexus One running Froyo? 450 percent faster, according to the Android Police. They claim to have a device running the as-yet-unreleased firmware that can perform over 37 million floating-point operations per second in the Linpack benchmark... compared to about 7 megaflops without. Oh yeeaaah."

As soon as a Froyo rom leaks, people will rip it apart and mod it to hell to get it to run on all kinds of devices. I'm sure we'll see Paul make a 2.2 Desire ROM, for example and now that HTC has released the Kernel source code, it should be easier to port existing quality roms like Cyanogenmod to the device. They'll all require root access to flash as they're unofficial roms. HTC will probably eventually port Froyo themselves, but that will probably take months.
Still, 2.2 hasn't shown up yet, so no dice. We'll have to wait until google I/O before that happens

it's going to be loooong till HTC themselves release it..but as soon as its out for nexus we'll see it here on xda in no time!

If you don't want to root & use a cooked ROM I wouldn't count on having it earlier than 6 months from now.
HTC needs to change Sense UI for Android 2.2 and looking at the Hero, which STILL does not have 2.1 I wouldn't expect it to be quick.

stingerpl said:
If you don't want to root & use a cooked ROM I wouldn't count on having it earlier than 6 months from now.
HTC needs to change Sense UI for Android 2.2 and looking at the Hero, which STILL does not have 2.1 I wouldn't expect it to be quick.
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Exactly... I had a hero myself and in order to get 2.1 ....what did I do???
I sold the hero and got a desire

will 2.2 allow us to install apps on SD card??

kvmanohar said:
will 2.2 allow us to install apps on SD card??
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It better....otherwise I'm selling my desire...what a waste of phone, can only install a handful of apps. I bet its restricting developers too.

pistonripper said:
It better....otherwise I'm selling my desire...what a waste of phone, can only install a handful of apps. I bet its restricting developers too.
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Oh don't be so dramatic. I could fit loads on mine just fine. And i rooted and installed apps2sd anyway. Don't get any Android phone if you expect to be able to install millions of apps.

Yeah, we will get it as a Custom Rom in the next few days and from HTC in several months

inkredi said:
Exactly... I had a hero myself and in order to get 2.1 ....what did I do???
I sold the hero and got a desire
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Same here, haha, I think many people have done this. Nexus one was not available yet in my country so I purchased the Desire. Will definitely flash 2.2 on this baby though. No way i am going to wait for HTC anymore.

Lacroix92 said:
Yeah, we will get it as a Custom Rom in the next few days and from HTC in several months
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Months?? Seeing how things are going with the hero, I'd say they'll release it to the desire once the 2.3 is out. So better think of it as next year.

IMO Desire's owners are very important for HTC, since we are buying their flagship phones. I think they must keep us satisfied, if not, we will buy different phone next time. And I won't be happy if Nexus One owners will get 2.2 and we will not.

BTW isnt the evo 4g an Android 2.2 phone quz 2.1 didn't support 4g correct me if im wrong but if it is the update for the desire wont cost them so much time to port.
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I've recently read that the Evo 4G will be an 2.1 phone as well :/

450% FASTER?! HOLYY SHIITT!!! I cant waaiiit!!!

3UK OTA Gingerbread update confirmed for end of May.

Latest info from twitter, if anyone was interested.

... then it means generic update comes even earlier ! tweet
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

I'm not going to get my hopes up...
First they said late April - early May... then they changed it to mid May...
Now that mid May is here they prolonged it to late May...
I wonder what they'll say at the end of May... early June maybe...
No one ever keeps their word...
3 UK said they received the HTC Desire stock Gingerbread ROM back in March, this means HTC has the WWE ROM ready but they didn't released it until now, and who knows when they will... if ever. Not to mention the fact that the Desire will not receive the Sense 2.0/2.1 update together with the Gingerbread update. I mean, was that so hard, they had the time, and I'm completely sure that the Desire hardware supports it. But they just don't want to, it's all a marketing plan.
All the members of the Desire family should've got the Sense 2.1 update, but NO.
Now Google comes up saying they will somehow try to convince the phone manufacturers to update their devices in a timely manner, yeah right...

well.. agree with you.
the reason underlying why HTC hv not released gb for desire yet may be thinking of giving an advance to Desire-S, imo..
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iLHaNroID said:
well.. agree with you.
the reason underlying why HTC hv not released gb for desire yet may be thinking of giving an advance to Desire-S, imo..
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Luckily the devs here are at least as good as HTC

who needs official gingerbread whe you have almost perfect cooked roms..

snakeeyes21 said:
who needs official gingerbread whe you have almost perfect cooked roms..
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I agree, alot purer roms with less rubbish from networks

snakeeyes21 said:
who needs official gingerbread whe you have almost perfect cooked roms..
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it's just easier when stock ROM has everything you need...

iLHaNroID said:
well.. agree with you.
the reason underlying why HTC hv not released gb for desire yet may be thinking of giving an advance to Desire-S, imo..
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App
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or the bugs still present in the rom, eg compass being broken on gingerbread

Who actually cares about the compass in all honesty?? I don't think I've ever used it except in Google Maps - which works fine

Compass is broken on many different devices (but maybe not on all devices of the same type), anyway without compass navigating is pretty tedious

Not only compass, but also GPS drivers, 2 sec answer delay fix, maybe better graphics libs.

2 second delay is fixed in the Sense ROMs

EddyOS said:
2 second delay is fixed in the Sense ROMs
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Good to hear -

I guess desire is on its way out as a "cutting edge" device. Still pretty sure we'll get most of the new features via custom ROMs (i'm running baadnewz's sense 2.1/3.0 rom and it has lots of the "new" sense already...), but there's no point waiting for your carrier to release updates for a phone thats been in the market for well over a year. I'm with telstra (australia) and i rooted and got froyo running a good two months before telstra released it.

Reply's I had from 3uk,
End of May with sense 2.1. Fingers crossed.

tinky1 said:
Reply's I had from 3uk,
End of May with sense 2.1. Fingers crossed.
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I think its a 'believe it when we see it' kind of thing though

Lothaen said:
I think its a 'believe it when we see it' kind of thing though
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Same here, hence crossed fingers.
From 3uk blog
Moderator: Johanna on April 20, 2011
We’ve been told by HTC that the Desire HD and Desire will have Sense 2.1 and not 3.0, but the Sensation will have Sense 3.0.

maybe that's the reason it's late again - that they've decided to include sense 2.1 in it

To be honest, I can't see them putting sense 2.1 on desire, space is to precious, unless they implement some sort of a2sd+
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HTC Annoucement related to 2.3 and Sense

http://www.facebook.com/notes/htc-romania/gingerbread-pentru-htc-desire/223475751011104
They say that HTC Desire memory doesn't support Sense and 2.3. As usual, the smart guys around here proved that it does work

It doesn't have the memory for it, we know that. The Devs have proved it can run it but only using EXT partitions on the SD card which Google won't use as the average user won't know how to make one
Quote:
"Our teams of engineers have worked hard in recent months to update the Gingerbread HTC HTC Desire without compromising Sense experience that you have grown accustomed to our phones. However, we are sorry but we must assume that there is enough memory to allow portability and storage Gingerbread experience on HTC HTC Sense Desire. We are very sorry for the disappointment that this news will cause many of you."

So... They say it will stick on froyo or update with old sense?
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So its true ...
On a lighter note...
XDA Desire DEVS RULE, you know who you are snq-, NeoPhYte.x360, RCTeam, BaadNwz, CoolExe and anybody body else i cant think of now.
I would rather spend my money on you guys because you offer way better support.

Wow, that really sucks!

Here's the announcement in English
facebook.com/notes/htc-uk/desire-and-gingerbread-update/225607660802056
Sorry for the borked link, not enough posts yet. Perhaps I lurk too much?

http://facebook.com/notes/htc-uk/desire-and-gingerbread-update/225607660802056
link for you.
thanks murdi

So HTC say that the phone can't run Gingerbread and Sense - but the leaked one did...?
so why not leave the old sense on and update the phone - or better yet - update it to the latest version of Froyo and fix the bugs with the HTC mail etc. so that it can work with Hotmail EAS...
little things would be nicer than squat... even though I'm not going to use it

Well, this is my first and last htc device.

I totally don't care... Sense UI sucks, CyanogenMod, MIUI & AdamG are the best

this is bull**** guys!!
the wildifre S has the same amount of memory and runs gingerbread and sense 2.1 and even with the 3.0 lockscreen!!!! their just as lazy as ****

I am so f.... mad right now, was waiting for this f.... gingerbread and now he wont come... I wont buy HTC phone anymore just becouse this tease. And I am going to tell all my friends not to buy any of their products anymore.

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Well, this is my first and last htc device.
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That's a shame - I do like HTC's phones and the only thing that let this phone down was the low internal memory situation, and their excuse for this too.
I'd buy another but i'd be a little cautious about it next time.
My Blackstone/Touch HD is still working very well, and that hasn't had any updates for ages but it looks like a NAND image may be coming soon for it which will spring some life into it again...
So the Desire is far from dead as the dev's here can perform miracles sometimes...
still plan on keeping my phone for the remainder of this year at least with the hopes that the custom roms keep me going!

Wow, a lot of fickle people on this forum...
Guys, we were never guaranteed updates from HTC at any point. The fact we got FroYo was because it was the top line device at the time. You can't compare the Wildfire S to the Desire. The Desire is over a year old, the Wildfire is less than a month old - of course it'll get a new version.

EddyOS said:
Wow, a lot of fickle people on this forum...
Guys, we were never guaranteed updates from HTC at any point. The fact we got FroYo was because it was the top line device at the time. You can't compare the Wildfire S to the Desire. The Desire is over a year old, the Wildfire is less than a month old - of course it'll get a new version.
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but then its bull**** if they say its the 'memory', just say ITS TOO OLD TO UPDATE! .
just be honest HTC!!!! dont come with lies!

I know no one guaranteed the update..and also don't care so much because the are the custom roms..
But anyway nothing good in htc for me..That just my opnion

nickislauw said:
but then its bull**** if they say its the 'memory', just say ITS TOO OLD TO UPDATE! .
just be honest HTC!!!! dont come with lies!
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absolutely agreed! It's a shame...

I mentioned before that the Google I/O stated that manufacturers should put the latest version on phones if the hardware can cope - if that applies here then that is a great get-out-clause for not upgrading the desire..
although - we do know that HTC worked on it - see leaked rom.

Lothaen said:
I mentioned before that the Google I/O stated that manufacturers should put the latest version on phones if the hardware can cope - if that applies here then that is a great get-out-clause for not upgrading the desire..
although - we do know that HTC worked on it - see leaked rom.
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their just to lazy man!!

andQlimax said:
Well, this is my first and last htc device.
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... but don't forget; when desire came to the market (April 2010) it came with v2.1 eclair, then abt 4 months later, upgraded to 2.2 froyo whereas SE-X10 came with 1.6 (donut) almost at the same time with the desire and upgraded to eclair in November or December 2010, on the other side, Samsung Galaxy-S came with eclair in summer 2010, upgraded to froyo just two or three months ago (know that it will receive GB too soon).. shortly I cannot blame or judge HTC with that; when I decided to buy my Desire, it was the best choice to date (April 2010). Now the only way to root and step into the cooked rom world.
Cheers!
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

No ICS for Nexus One

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/google/8848669/Android-upgrade-for-Google-Nexus-S-in-weeks.html
So Google has announced that the Nexus One will not be getting ICS as it is simply not powerful enough. As the Nexus One is basically the same as our Desire, there goes any hope of an official update.
Question now is, once ICS goes AOSP, is it going to work? Without the N1, we will be lacking some necessary drivers, won't we?
Not good news. I know N1 owners and Android commentators all thought the N1 was going to get it.

Another reason to ditch Desire for good.

didnt they say any device running gingerbread would be able to get IC? i'm confused.

Old hardware, Low internal memory. Is it possible to run on the Desire/Nexus one, but they do not want ot make it. Period.

There was never any hope of an official update.

Desire was never going to get an update, but Nexus One was always in the grey area...
I guess they can easily say hardware requirements are holding it back - it will run GB - but maybe it hasnt got the internal storage for ICS to run effectively... devs can probably span it onto EXT on SDCARD but of course Google won't want to do that...
Its probably a case of 'it can.... but probably not as well as they like.'

I smell hypocrisy here. First they say that any device capable of running 2.3 will be able to get ICS, but ask them to port to a device with a different chipset to their other flagship phones, and suddenly it's simply 'too old'. And I bet they'll continue to moan that handset makers and carriers don't update devices enough.

Kyoraki said:
I smell hypocrisy here. First they say that any device capable of running 2.3 will be able to get ICS, but ask them to port to a device with a different chipset to their other flagship phones, and suddenly it's simply 'too old'. And I bet they'll continue to moan that handset makers and carriers don't update devices enough.
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The problem is not the SoC, but the LOW internal memory. They just don't want to take out apps and shrink the size of their "original" build to fit a smaller system partition.

Terepin said:
Another reason to ditch Desire for good.
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"Ditch Desire", "ICS looks ugly", "Roboto is a complete failure", ...
I could ask "why the hell haven't you left Android yet?", but since you strike me as reasonably logical and intelligent, I suspect you simply think all the alternatives are even worse than you consider Android.
Which means you're not just logical and intelligent, but my word, you're depressing.

Kyoraki said:
I smell hypocrisy here.
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The only thing I smell is one more charade low skilled users granted us the last time an official update was released

since 2.3 aosp is only about 70-90mb big, how big is ics going to be? even the desire has a system memory of ~200mb (correct me if im wrong) so why wouldnt they be able to fit it in there?
at least let the xda devs do their magic, dont wanna ditch my precious device

ZeGuitarist said:
"Ditch Desire", "ICS looks ugly", "Roboto is a complete failure", ...
I could ask "why the hell haven't you left Android yet?", but since you strike me as reasonably logical and intelligent, I suspect you simply think all the alternatives are even worse than you consider Android.
Which means you're not just logical and intelligent, but my word, you're depressing.
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I already wrote why.

DasGensu said:
since 2.3 aosp is only about 70-90mb big, how big is ics going to be? even the desire has a system memory of ~200mb (correct me if im wrong) so why wouldnt they be able to fit it in there?
at least let the xda devs do their magic, dont wanna ditch my precious device
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the nexus one has in total 145 MB in /system
the ICS sdk system image is 170 MB (without google apps, wallpapers and ringtones)
so
1) it doesn't fit in the n1
2) probably it will slow down a bit the n1, and that its not acceptable for the average users (that after the ota will have no chance to go back)
3) marketing purpose..maybe about time to buy a new phone, as the very small internal memory (like our desire) was an epic fail and its going to complicate everything for the average user that have no more free space
this explain why google will not update it (atm )
cyanogen will do soon when the source come out

With the speed the devs have been churning out roms lately if they put the ics rom out for the desire by the time my contract is up I shall stick with my desire and just swap sims.

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(that after the ota will have no chance to go back)
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Oh no, that would mean another official update not done properly
I think it would be about time that average joe should decide if they want OTA updates or not.
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very small internal memory (like our desire) was an epic fail and its going to complicate everything for the average user that have no more free space
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I find it amusing that the moaners knew the Desire failed miserably with internal space compared to iPhone 3GS and Galaxy, and yet they bought it

So is this the final nail in the coffin for Desire?

The final nail would be when most devs (read all true devs) left. But yeah, Desire is with one leg in grave.

Hardly - the amount of development still going on for the Desire is phenomenal compared to some much newer phones. Probably the easily unlockable bootloader has a lot to do with that (take note, handset makers...)
Right now I (and probably a lot of people here) am running Android 2.3.7 - the most recent version of Android on the market. This means that our Desire is more up to date than the most up to date phone you can buy in a store right now. How is that "one leg in the grave" (btw the expression is one foot in the grave)
I am sure Cyanogen & team will come up with CM9 for the Desire based on ICS. None of us can yet say how it will run, but I would bet my bottom dollar that it is coming.
Personally, I have another year to go on my contract with the Desire. I expect to be running ICS quite happily for the duration of that year, and during that time, I'm sure that my phone's OS will be more up to date than all of the people I know around me with an Android phone.
Then, when my contract is up, I will get a phone that has satisfies the following conditions:
*Rootable
*Unlockable S-Off-able bootloader
*Micro SD slot
*SIM-unlockable
*Plenty of internal memory
Then I will have the equivalent of my Desire, just with new hardware specs. And it will be awesome.

I never expected any official support for that ICS ROM anyway, on the N1 nor the Desire.
but, i'm sure that upon Source code arrival, it would be adjusted to work on the desire.

I also never expected the desire for the ICS even. With that exeprience from gingerbread tells me not to expect for another wave of OS upgrade. And that is how i rooted my phone and install custom ROM (CM7.1) to it. I never imagined the power of this phone since i rooted it. It gives myself a feeling of having a new and powerful phone again after a year of constant hard reset due to memory issues. I know the CMs and other Devs are already reasearching to port another upgrade to the desire and a big thanks to them for continuously searching and developing.

[Q] Looking for Android 4.1.2 Sense Rom

Hello together,
I'm looking for a Rom with Android 4.1.2 and HTC Sense. Any tip ?
Thanks
Virus3003

virus3003 said:
Hello together,
I'm looking for a Rom with Android 4.1.2 and HTC Sense. Any tip ?
Thanks
Virus3003
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No JB ROM has Sense right now.

HTC has not released JB for any device as of yet. JB will come only with One X+. Even then it will probably take 2-3 months for Sense with JB to work for DHD. Atleast not unless One V or One S get their JB updates(if any).

I think our phone get old .. we should buy one x

Maybe the time has come to buy a new phone. Thanks for replys.

Don't buy another HTC phone, they promised ics for us and then they told us Desire HD couldn't run it. A lie!!!

Muikkuman said:
Don't buy another HTC phone, they promised ics for us and then they told us Desire HD couldn't run it. A lie!!!
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well actually they did not said anything like that...
they cancelled ICS for DHD because there would be no way to upgrade without formatting system partitions which would lead to loss of users data and so on...

kyn-ROM Android4.1.1 Sense4.1-F21
China Rom. Pretty stable.

Crimson1988 said:
well actually they did not said anything like that...
they cancelled ICS for DHD because there would be no way to upgrade without formatting system partitions which would lead to loss of users data and so on...
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Yes, and an average user will not be happy with this. ROM flashers dont care, but normal users do
Sent from my Desire HD using xda premium

True, but they could have released the update, clearly stating in the update info screen that it will lead to loss of data. So then, only the users who want it would run it, while the others would simply cancel it. This is a no-brainer. Other companies have done this, so I don't see why HTC can't. Re-partitioning and loss of data is no excuse for a company to renege on their promised upgrade. At best, they could have released an RUU on HTCdev for our phone just like they did for the HTC Desire GB upgrade. That way only really knowledgeable users would run it.
The truth is, they never started work on ICS for the DHD at all. *Every* other HTC phone had an ICS leak a month or two before they officially got it. The DHD had none. They never started work on the DHD, because they didn't want to spend their time and money on the oldest phone in the list, expecting people to buy their new One series instead. That's a crap move. It wouldn't be that bad if they didn't promise the upgrade in the first place and then go back on their word, but they did. Motorola did the same thing with the Photon 4G and 2 other phones. At least we got Froyo > Gingerbread. Those phones were stuck on GB their entire life, and Motorola had the gall to offer a $100 discount (not cash-back) for customers of these phones, if they purchased newer Motorola phones.
On the other hand, you have Sony Mobile which us releasing alpha stage ROMs of upcoming upgrades to the community, along with kernel source code for the alpha ROM, taking suggestions from the community and actively working together to develop that ROM. That is how a company should be. Motorola is crap and HTC has gone far down that route. They just don't care. Sony as a company can't work to upgrade all their phones all the time too, because ultimately it costs time and money, but to counter that they are actively helping the community by providing drivers and binaries for custom ROMs. This is the reason more or less all Sony Xperia phones (low-end to high-end) have official CM support. HTC and Motorola make great phones but their business practices and ideologies are just wrong.
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Last_SiN said:
kyn-ROM Android4.1.1 Sense4.1-F21
China Rom. Pretty stable.
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Any link? Does it have english?
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Yes it has English.
No, mirrors to these ROMS are not allowed on XDA,
If you want to try it, just use google and it's translate...

-SmOgER said:
Yes it has English.
No, mirrors to these ROMS are not allowed on XDA,
If you want to try it, just use google and it's translate...
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Lol found it, its the one I posted screen shot of in your thread
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