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Any word yet on Android 2.2

Is there going to be an upgrade for the desire ?
Would love that ! (Flash)
Any body got some info ?

of course will be, the question is when?

thats quick ....

Are we talking months or weeks untill 'droid 2.2 comes out
The internet is being a bit tight lipped.
The deisre is lovely, but not finished yet.
flash is nice, divx is vital and 720p video is something I wsan't expecting...
How are we going to get it when its released?
Will it be a user ROM style hardware flash through PC sync or will i just download a file to my phone, click go and 10minutes later my phone is amazing??
(i'm having fun wiping smug faces of iphone owning freinds as they ask what phone I have and i show them, then tell them I've got it for £15/mnth )

you'll get it here on XDA as usual. ready to be flashed on your device as any other ROM

2.2 aka Froyo: maybe next week!!!
I read this on engadget:
Engadget's post about Froyo
I don't really want to root my phone as it's I think really good as it is but I wouldn't say no to Froyo! especially since it apparently boosts performance a lot!
Quote form Engadget: "Update: How much faster is a Nexus One running Froyo? 450 percent faster, according to the Android Police. They claim to have a device running the as-yet-unreleased firmware that can perform over 37 million floating-point operations per second in the Linpack benchmark... compared to about 7 megaflops without. Oh yeeaaah."

As soon as a Froyo rom leaks, people will rip it apart and mod it to hell to get it to run on all kinds of devices. I'm sure we'll see Paul make a 2.2 Desire ROM, for example and now that HTC has released the Kernel source code, it should be easier to port existing quality roms like Cyanogenmod to the device. They'll all require root access to flash as they're unofficial roms. HTC will probably eventually port Froyo themselves, but that will probably take months.
Still, 2.2 hasn't shown up yet, so no dice. We'll have to wait until google I/O before that happens

it's going to be loooong till HTC themselves release it..but as soon as its out for nexus we'll see it here on xda in no time!

If you don't want to root & use a cooked ROM I wouldn't count on having it earlier than 6 months from now.
HTC needs to change Sense UI for Android 2.2 and looking at the Hero, which STILL does not have 2.1 I wouldn't expect it to be quick.

stingerpl said:
If you don't want to root & use a cooked ROM I wouldn't count on having it earlier than 6 months from now.
HTC needs to change Sense UI for Android 2.2 and looking at the Hero, which STILL does not have 2.1 I wouldn't expect it to be quick.
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Exactly... I had a hero myself and in order to get 2.1 ....what did I do???
I sold the hero and got a desire

will 2.2 allow us to install apps on SD card??

kvmanohar said:
will 2.2 allow us to install apps on SD card??
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It better....otherwise I'm selling my desire...what a waste of phone, can only install a handful of apps. I bet its restricting developers too.

pistonripper said:
It better....otherwise I'm selling my desire...what a waste of phone, can only install a handful of apps. I bet its restricting developers too.
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Oh don't be so dramatic. I could fit loads on mine just fine. And i rooted and installed apps2sd anyway. Don't get any Android phone if you expect to be able to install millions of apps.

Yeah, we will get it as a Custom Rom in the next few days and from HTC in several months

inkredi said:
Exactly... I had a hero myself and in order to get 2.1 ....what did I do???
I sold the hero and got a desire
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Same here, haha, I think many people have done this. Nexus one was not available yet in my country so I purchased the Desire. Will definitely flash 2.2 on this baby though. No way i am going to wait for HTC anymore.

Lacroix92 said:
Yeah, we will get it as a Custom Rom in the next few days and from HTC in several months
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Months?? Seeing how things are going with the hero, I'd say they'll release it to the desire once the 2.3 is out. So better think of it as next year.

IMO Desire's owners are very important for HTC, since we are buying their flagship phones. I think they must keep us satisfied, if not, we will buy different phone next time. And I won't be happy if Nexus One owners will get 2.2 and we will not.

BTW isnt the evo 4g an Android 2.2 phone quz 2.1 didn't support 4g correct me if im wrong but if it is the update for the desire wont cost them so much time to port.
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I've recently read that the Evo 4G will be an 2.1 phone as well :/

450% FASTER?! HOLYY SHIITT!!! I cant waaiiit!!!

HTC Annoucement related to 2.3 and Sense

http://www.facebook.com/notes/htc-romania/gingerbread-pentru-htc-desire/223475751011104
They say that HTC Desire memory doesn't support Sense and 2.3. As usual, the smart guys around here proved that it does work

It doesn't have the memory for it, we know that. The Devs have proved it can run it but only using EXT partitions on the SD card which Google won't use as the average user won't know how to make one
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"Our teams of engineers have worked hard in recent months to update the Gingerbread HTC HTC Desire without compromising Sense experience that you have grown accustomed to our phones. However, we are sorry but we must assume that there is enough memory to allow portability and storage Gingerbread experience on HTC HTC Sense Desire. We are very sorry for the disappointment that this news will cause many of you."

So... They say it will stick on froyo or update with old sense?
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So its true ...
On a lighter note...
XDA Desire DEVS RULE, you know who you are snq-, NeoPhYte.x360, RCTeam, BaadNwz, CoolExe and anybody body else i cant think of now.
I would rather spend my money on you guys because you offer way better support.

Wow, that really sucks!

Here's the announcement in English
facebook.com/notes/htc-uk/desire-and-gingerbread-update/225607660802056
Sorry for the borked link, not enough posts yet. Perhaps I lurk too much?

http://facebook.com/notes/htc-uk/desire-and-gingerbread-update/225607660802056
link for you.
thanks murdi

So HTC say that the phone can't run Gingerbread and Sense - but the leaked one did...?
so why not leave the old sense on and update the phone - or better yet - update it to the latest version of Froyo and fix the bugs with the HTC mail etc. so that it can work with Hotmail EAS...
little things would be nicer than squat... even though I'm not going to use it

Well, this is my first and last htc device.

I totally don't care... Sense UI sucks, CyanogenMod, MIUI & AdamG are the best

this is bull**** guys!!
the wildifre S has the same amount of memory and runs gingerbread and sense 2.1 and even with the 3.0 lockscreen!!!! their just as lazy as ****

I am so f.... mad right now, was waiting for this f.... gingerbread and now he wont come... I wont buy HTC phone anymore just becouse this tease. And I am going to tell all my friends not to buy any of their products anymore.

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Well, this is my first and last htc device.
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That's a shame - I do like HTC's phones and the only thing that let this phone down was the low internal memory situation, and their excuse for this too.
I'd buy another but i'd be a little cautious about it next time.
My Blackstone/Touch HD is still working very well, and that hasn't had any updates for ages but it looks like a NAND image may be coming soon for it which will spring some life into it again...
So the Desire is far from dead as the dev's here can perform miracles sometimes...
still plan on keeping my phone for the remainder of this year at least with the hopes that the custom roms keep me going!

Wow, a lot of fickle people on this forum...
Guys, we were never guaranteed updates from HTC at any point. The fact we got FroYo was because it was the top line device at the time. You can't compare the Wildfire S to the Desire. The Desire is over a year old, the Wildfire is less than a month old - of course it'll get a new version.

EddyOS said:
Wow, a lot of fickle people on this forum...
Guys, we were never guaranteed updates from HTC at any point. The fact we got FroYo was because it was the top line device at the time. You can't compare the Wildfire S to the Desire. The Desire is over a year old, the Wildfire is less than a month old - of course it'll get a new version.
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but then its bull**** if they say its the 'memory', just say ITS TOO OLD TO UPDATE! .
just be honest HTC!!!! dont come with lies!

I know no one guaranteed the update..and also don't care so much because the are the custom roms..
But anyway nothing good in htc for me..That just my opnion

nickislauw said:
but then its bull**** if they say its the 'memory', just say ITS TOO OLD TO UPDATE! .
just be honest HTC!!!! dont come with lies!
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absolutely agreed! It's a shame...

I mentioned before that the Google I/O stated that manufacturers should put the latest version on phones if the hardware can cope - if that applies here then that is a great get-out-clause for not upgrading the desire..
although - we do know that HTC worked on it - see leaked rom.

Lothaen said:
I mentioned before that the Google I/O stated that manufacturers should put the latest version on phones if the hardware can cope - if that applies here then that is a great get-out-clause for not upgrading the desire..
although - we do know that HTC worked on it - see leaked rom.
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their just to lazy man!!

andQlimax said:
Well, this is my first and last htc device.
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... but don't forget; when desire came to the market (April 2010) it came with v2.1 eclair, then abt 4 months later, upgraded to 2.2 froyo whereas SE-X10 came with 1.6 (donut) almost at the same time with the desire and upgraded to eclair in November or December 2010, on the other side, Samsung Galaxy-S came with eclair in summer 2010, upgraded to froyo just two or three months ago (know that it will receive GB too soon).. shortly I cannot blame or judge HTC with that; when I decided to buy my Desire, it was the best choice to date (April 2010). Now the only way to root and step into the cooked rom world.
Cheers!
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

Good-bye (and thanks for all the fish...)

After yesterday's disapointing release I finally bit the bullet and got a new 'phone from my network operator. I was offered a choice between the HTC sensation and the Samsung Galaxy II and I went for the latter mainly because I was not impressed with the HTC approach to the GB update. I will move to reading their section in xda.
To all those that have helped me either through lurking on their threads or by answering my questions I just wanted to say thank-you!

Enjoy your new phone! Although I didn't think Samsung are any better at updates lol
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Laters!
if you want updates you need to go Nexus really.
Samsung are flavour of the month for the moment - but remember their FroYo release? It took about 3-4 months after HTC's release...
Failing that you just need to go AOSP with a custom rom - which you can do on almost any handset.
Perhaps you should address your goodbye to HTC directly

here you are
Flashlight

Have you heard of custom roms?

Mates just let him be

erklat said:
mates just let him be
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Good luck with your samsung things, grass isn't always greener and better in next door!

Well update to Gb which HTC released is in my opinion great cause they just do everything they were able to port GB to desire and than just released it for developers. For some time we will have great custom roms with official Gb, alreadywe have SuperNova by Droidzone.
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killerofsniper said:
Good luck with your samsung things, grass isn't always greener and better in next door!
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The greener the grass the more s*it it contains

I love my Desire
I love the my Desire, and pretty sure it is going to be the Android phone I would use for at least 1.5 years.
The main reason being there are so many Desire users, the ROMs just keep coming and getting better.

Like op i've moved from a desire to a sgs2 for many reasons, mainly my contract was up and I didn't like the lag on the sensation screen! But what gets me is how many people keep going on about custom roms for the desire. Of course there are loads the phone is old in tech year's, I'm sure the same will happen to the sgs2 in about 6 months, but to be honest I don't find much difference between the 2 apart from never having to think about how many applications I can have. Ie running out of memory! As they say you pay ya money and make ya choice.
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I was thinking of selling my desire and buy a Sensation but when I read all those user comments about all the issues I changed my mind, sensation still have that nice look, but when we talk about software I cant say the same of what I hear, now I dont know what to do to keep desire and wait until they release some new phone wich will work normal, or give up of HTC and buy some other brand with android.

Lothaen said:
Samsung are flavour of the month for the moment - but remember their FroYo release? It took about 3-4 months after HTC's release...
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True, but Samsung didn't promise Desire users Gingerbread and a new version of Sense and failed to deliver.
I got the Desire based on this, and know I feel they flipped the finger, so I can't really blame OP for ditching HTC.

I'm surprised google didn't have a word with them since google set out a baseline for all phone manufacturers that each handset should get at least 18 month's of updates? Therefore google is saying the max size each version of android is gonna be and the processing power requirements! It's like the htc wildfire this will never see gingerbread as it has the same if not less memory and power than the desire! Yet its a newer phone than the desire! Or is it google just doesn't care? And is letting phone manufacturers get away with it?
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helterskelter said:
True, but Samsung didn't promise Desire users Gingerbread and a new version of Sense and failed to deliver.
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Afaik Gingerbread was delivered 6 hours behind the schedule and Sense 2.1 was never mentioned by any credible source of information, but as it seems you collect your info from the same people who scream that release on their page is beta I kind of understand where you got that.
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to give up of HTC and buy some other band with android.
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I think this would be the most plausible choice.

lordjester said:
I'm surprised google didn't have a word with them since google set out a baseline for all phone manufacturers that each handset should get at least 18 month's of updates? Therefore google is saying the max size each version of android is gonna be and the processing power requirements! It's like the htc wildfire this will never see gingerbread as it has the same if not less memory and power than the desire! Yet its a newer phone than the desire! Or is it google just doesn't care? And is letting phone manufacturers get away with it?
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If I remember Google said 18 months where hardware allows....
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Enjoy your next phone. I will also change my desire for the new SGSII. I have many problems with the desire´s motherboard.
Ciao

I love when people talk about companies "promising" something and then moan when it doesn't happen. Reminds me of the old days in the school playground...
From what I can see, HTC did thier best to deliver, but unfortunately the constraints of the device stopped them being able to do more. What do people expect them to do, come over and upgrade the memory in each phone?
Some people just want the moon on a stick.

Note to OP, it's 'so long' not 'good-bye'

[Q] Original ICS for Desire?

Does anybody know, if HTC is going to build a stock ICS-version? Because Samsung is going to make one for the SGS, which is released only two months later, and it has more or less the same system specification.
PS:Sorry for my bad english, I'm still a student

No. It almost didn't get Gingerbread.

but the desire got gingerbread, look here: htcdev.com/devcenter/downloads

big_X said:
but the desire got gingerbread, look here: htcdev.com/devcenter/downloads
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He said almost. The desire HD isn't getting it, and that's the next Gen of the desire. Case closed
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big_X said:
Does anybody know, if HTC is going to build a stock ICS-version? Because Samsung is going to make one for the SGS, which is released only two months later, and it has more or less the same system specification.
PS:Sorry for my bad english, I'm still a student
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And it has hardware specs superior to Desire, not to mention 15 times larger internal memory.
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erklat said:
And it has hardware specs superior to Desire, not to mention 15 times larger internal memory.
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Also known as: Lazy corporations not caring about the customers. F*ck HTC, bad build quality, not keeping phones up-to-date, only good thing is their customer service which fixed my phone every time no questions asked. Next phone will be Samsung.

bortak said:
Also known as: Lazy corporations not caring about the customers. F*ck HTC, bad build quality, not keeping phones up-to-date, only good thing is their customer service which fixed my phone every time no questions asked. Next phone will be Samsung.
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You think HTC is bad build quality? Whenever I hold a SGS2 in my hand, ive got the feeling im holding a worthless piece of plastic. I still have a few months to think about the new phone im goinna pick, but I think I will miss Sense too much once I choose a non htc phone.

No, as the others already said, there wont be an original ICS-ROM for the Desire.
And the user "stankyou" meant by saying "No. It almost didn't get Gingerbread." that the stock Gingerbread ROM on Desire is just a light version of GB.
And yeah, its really a evidence of incapacity of HTC to not support a not even 2 years old flagship (at the time it was launched) smartphone. But Samsung and most of the other Android smartphones producers are quite the same unfortunately. Only Sony (Ericsson) showed way more effort in the last few months.
And for me HTC really lost the lead in technology a bit and some people are also saying that the devices of HTC suffer the loss of manufacture quality. My next Phone will probably be a Samsung even though the quality of the covers isnt the best.

There are several ICS Roms in development - but these are all stock.
I'd imagine once HTC Roms with ICS start getting out in the wild, somebody will probably try and port them to the Desire.
Considering the limited hardware, I wouldn't hold out too much hope for them being any good though.

big_X said:
Does anybody know, if HTC is going to build a stock ICS-version? Because Samsung is going to make one for the SGS, which is released only two months later, and it has more or less the same system specification.
PS:Sorry for my bad english, I'm still a student
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Wrong. Samsung isn't releasing ICS for the original Galaxy S. They might be releasing a 'value pack'.
And im100% sure that the original Desire won't get ICS officially.
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[Q]htc ics

has anyone contacted htc to see if we are getting an ics update from them?
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I highly dought htc would do that for our devices unfortunately :/

My old lg gt540 got it thinking I should give up on this.mobile give it to my sister lol most have I'm need a he kernal right now ......
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NO. WFC WILL NOT GET ICS.
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i just got this:
HTC UK said:
Dear Eoghan Cunnignham,
Thank you for contacting HTC.
I understand you would like to no when the wildfire s is getting a Android 4.0 update.
At this time we do not know if the Android 4.0 update will come to the Wildfire S device. We have announced that the update will be released for all dual core phones. But we do not expect the update will come to single core devices. We are working on a way to get this stable so that we can release it on older devices. However at this time we have no more information on the update coming to your device.
I hope that this information meets with your requirements, should you have any further questions please do not hesitate to contact us again.
If this response has resolved your query, and you have no further questions please close this ticket by following the link below. Upon closure of the ticket you will be invited to complete our Customer Satisfaction Survey which should take no more than 1 minute to complete.
Thank you for contacting HTC.
Let me know if I have successfully answered your question, please click here to complete this.
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Luke
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Worth a shot to ask
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No, we're not getting it officially.
HTC needs few months to release ICS for 2-3 phones lol.
Like they have less then 5 people working on that -.-

Well its time for me to buy another phone
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The very least they should do is provide us with working drivers.
I knew when they released the 2.3.5 update that it would be their way of getting out of giving us ics.
Now if we argued they'll say 'well we gave you an update what more do you want'.
Easy way out for HTC not to support us.
Same with the bootloader unlock, imagine how many warranty claims will be turned down now, including hardware faults, they didn't do it just for our benefit but it saves them money from refusing warranty.
I can vouch for the warranty issue as I have been refused already.
Next phone will probably be from a different manufacturer.

I called HTC Turkey and they said there isn't plan for wildfire s

Yes, we won't get offical ICS update.. Eoghan, did you asked Mike about making ICS ROM for our phone??

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Yes, we won't get offical ICS update.. Eoghan, did you asked Mike about making ICS ROM for our phone??
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Yeah he said thatched might after the LG gt540 is fully working on ics.
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HTC didn't wont to send to our WFS an official ICS, now they have much more better devices, that they wants to sell, because of that isn't be well for them lost time and money updating and older device. Now our posibility is that the WFS Team continue doing the proyect of the CM9, but now I' ve seen on her webpage that the proyect was stopped...
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No way officially...
It is common sense that HTC will not update ICS on Wildfire S.....
Because our phone is Start level phone from HTC...
They dont have much time to develop for it...
We should say HTC to S-OFF our devices... (Unlocking bootloader doesnt allow us to create system partition in order to increase internal memory) rater than ICS update... I think that cm9 will come to us....
Once our device is S-OFF by any utility....
Than their will be a officially support for our device by cm team...
Hope for S-OFF soon nt for the ICS....

Yes I would guess our only hope is forthcoming CM9 or other custom developments by modders here.

OK. So, it's obvious that ICS is a thing of our dreams. But that probably is their plan.
Don't understand?
Well, first they gave us an unlocked bootloader, only so they don't have to spend money, and we lose our warranties. And pretty much all of us have unlocked bootloaders or S-OFF. They want us to build our own ICS, so that they have further evidence to not repair our phones within our warranties.
Understand?

Its not gonna happen, these phones are somewhat lower end models, (not cheap just affordable) and I think they are targeting there most popular phones to have ics, and customer service is gonna tell you what you want to hear to make you happy, but in reality its not going to happen, so I think we wont see ics from HTC at all
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Android311 said:
Its not gonna happen, these phones are somewhat lower end models, (not cheap just affordable) and I think they are targeting there most popular phones
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Well because these phones are more affordable to the masses then don't you think they'd have made more money from them because they would have sold shedloads more than say a higher end more desirable and much more expensive model?
In which case I think they should support this model!
Imagine all the first time Android users that purchased this phone and will now be loyal Android customers, that does not also mean they'll be loyal to a manufacturer that they feel let down by and left out of the update chain.
Many users will switch to a manufacturer that provides plenty of updates.

If HTC Wildfire got ics update, then it is sure that Wildfire S will get it to. Unoffical, of course.. we just have to wait
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intel007 said:
Well because these phones are more affordable to the masses then don't you think they'd have made more money from them because they would have sold shedloads more than say a higher end more desirable and much more expensive model?
In which case I think they should support this model!
Imagine all the first time Android users that purchased this phone and will now be loyal Android customers, that does not also mean they'll be loyal to a manufacturer that they feel let down by and left out of the update chain.
Many users will switch to a manufacturer that provides plenty of updates.
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True that's a good point, I feel that HTC will bring ics to there new and high end phones before they get to the wildfire s, since ics is out it will motivate users that don't have ics on there phones to buy that new phone that comes with it. Company's want you to buy there new products, the wildfire s has been out for about 5 months? So just think if ics came to our devices we would keep our phone even longer, phone company's don't want customers to keep there phones for a long time they loose money, so they may feel if you want ics then buy one of our new phone. Thats why i think they wont come out with the update, the more money they make the more phones they come out with
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Sony Ericsson has said they will update all of their 2011 models.
So don't see how HTC cannot do the same.