I am seriously worrying about how Microsoft are expecting to sell WP7 phones here in the Netherlands given that nobody seems to know they exist! All the time I see commercials on iPhone, Androids like Galaxy and so on, via TV, billboards, email. But Windows Phone 7? Not a sound. Not a glimpse. Is this silence before the Mango storm? How is this in other countries?
Pretty much the same. But I remember one billboard for WP7 next to quite frequent highway, it was there for nearly a month, back in January or December I think. I converted few people to WP7 already, but it is tough one ("so where is the internet sharing? Wifi would be the best." "there is no official way." "$#[email protected]!")
jpijper said:
I am seriously worrying about how Microsoft are expecting to sell WP7 phones here in the Netherlands given that nobody seems to know they exist! All the time I see commercials on iPhone, Androids like Galaxy and so on, via TV, billboards, email. But Windows Phone 7? Not a sound. Not a glimpse. Is this silence before the Mango storm? How is this in other countries?
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Me and a friend have one, other than that have never seen one in Holland either. But it mainly has to do with no official support in Holland yet, no marketplace, buggy locale settings, buggy push on TMobile, no dutch language. Mango will bring these and than we might expect to see more, certainly because nokia will probably release ads.
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Microsoft is well aware that good and fast OS design and not finished functionality is not enough for them to ring all the advertising bells, because right now (with NoDo), iOS an Android would kill them with all-round possibilities. Mango - that's more like it. I have tried B2 and found out that it has almost everything that was left out in current OS.
They hit London pretty hard with advertising at launch. Must have bought up a good portion of Tube advertising for weeks. Been quiet this year though. A little bit of WP7 advertising about, but I think Microsoft have decided to cut their losses until Mango. There's not exactly anything new to sell right now, and the public clearly weren't interested in what they were offering last year.
In Italy no one knows it exists. When I show it to someone, they go either:
1) ah, it's an iphone, right ?
- I walk away
2) an, nice, it's the galaxy uh... what's the name ?
- nope, it's an omnia 7, the new windows phone from microsoft
- errr... what ?
- Windows Phone. Microsoft. See this logo ?
- errr... uhm ... so it's a galaxy s ?
- NO IT'S AN OMNIA 7. But it has Windows Phone system in it. You know, an operating system ?
- ah uhm... yes. And it's not an iphone ?
- I walk away
Fairly unknown in Norway as well, hopefully that changes with the official release over here when the new Mango phones hit.
Unknown in india as well
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Really really unknown at Netherlands Antilles (Curacao).
/sad
I think thet they're awaiting the Mango launch (escpecially since that's what Swedens Microsoft reps says, but thats mainly because it wont launch officially here until then).
Otherwise I love when conversations goes like this:
"Oh, your phone is pretty fluid, what launcher are you using?"
"No, no. This is a Windows Phone 7. Unlike Android it works as it should right out of the box and it's almost impossible to get an Android phone this fast."
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pretty much unknown in Singapore as well...
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In Italy no one knows it exists. When I show it to someone, they go either:
1) ah, it's an iphone, right ?
- I walk away
2) an, nice, it's the galaxy uh... what's the name ?
- nope, it's an omnia 7, the new windows phone from microsoft
- errr... what ?
- Windows Phone. Microsoft. See this logo ?
- errr... uhm ... so it's a galaxy s ?
- NO IT'S AN OMNIA 7. But it has Windows Phone system in it. You know, an operating system ?
- ah uhm... yes. And it's not an iphone ?
- I walk away
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Lolz, similar situation here. In Malaysia.
Another experience,
I walk in to a HTC booth hosted by authorized reseller in PC Expo, the representative approach me when I'm looking at 7 Mozart, then he ask me,
"Sir, looking for a handset?"
"No, I already owned one of this" (pointing to the Mozart)
"Why sir didn't try android? It can do pretty much everything can be done in WINDOWS" (WINDOWS is the exact word he use while pointing the Mozart)
"I don't think so"
"I don't believe, what kind of task that WINDOWS can done while android can't, android got lots of apps, office, blah blah blah..." (in the meantime taking his HTC Sensation / HTC Desire, I didn't really paid attention to his phone)
"It is hard to tell you, just let me show you" (Take my mozart out which preloaded with Mango 7661 and showing him the integration of FB and Windows Live plus the threading which integrate FB chat and MSN)
"Android can pretty much do the same if you download apps from market..." (I halt his speech)
"But I prefer to do these tasks seamlessly and without all those apps hussle"
Then he is somehow provoked by me and I walked away while going to see the pretty showgirl which handling the HTC Flyer.
No marketing here in Denmark either but when you think about it, we're not really supposed to have it anyway.
It was really hard to track down a WP7 phone here in Denmark around November.
I had three choices:
A Omnia 7 with 3 - Not a possiblity since i have Telia with my work, they were also sold out.
A Throphy i had to wait a month for (even though it was released at that time)
A HD7 US import. (Really expensive)
Ended up with my Trophy! Glad i didn't go for Android.
i think i live in the singularity, where 6 of my friends have it, too (switzerland)
but for others, i tell them it's not an iphone the 20iest time..
Thanks for all the responses, people! I don't feel quite so alone any more
Jan Roelof
andycted said:
In Italy no one knows it exists. When I show it to someone, they go either:
1) ah, it's an iphone, right ?
- I walk away
2) an, nice, it's the galaxy uh... what's the name ?
- nope, it's an omnia 7, the new windows phone from microsoft
- errr... what ?
- Windows Phone. Microsoft. See this logo ?
- errr... uhm ... so it's a galaxy s ?
- NO IT'S AN OMNIA 7. But it has Windows Phone system in it. You know, an operating system ?
- ah uhm... yes. And it's not an iphone ?
- I walk away
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Haha, so funny
They do that exactly on me too; so annoying, lrn2wp7. Eh wp7, whats that, an android?
fiinix said:
Haha, so funny
They do that exactly on me too; so annoying, lrn2wp7. Eh wp7, whats that, an android?
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That wouldn't be half bad, if people said 'android', as it would probably mean they have already made a step forward and aren't stuck in 2007 hehe
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i think i live in the singularity, where 6 of my friends have it, too (switzerland)
but for others, i tell them it's not an iphone the 20iest time..
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people in Switzerland know how to buy quality
They may want to coordinate with Nokia for a big push with the new Nokia phones. Nokia had a huge retail presence in Europe the last time I was there. I think the advertising dollars would be best saved for Mango + Nokia in every shop.
Here in Taiwan (home of HTC), WP7 devices are very visible; pretty much every medium to large phone retailer that stocks HTC phones has one or more Windows Phones.
However, those on display collect dust while consumers play with the Iphones and Android handsets. The reason is obvious; no one here speaks english, so with no current option for Chinese display or input there's no way the average Taiwanese consumer will even be able to operate the device, let alone think about buying it.
No Chinese combined with zero support for Bing maps, Bing local search and no Taiwanese app store makes me question why they even bothered launching here.
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Hi all ass google told me, there will be an unofficial update for hd2 but they still have problems with the grafic driver.
I may buy an Hd2 and i want to know your opinion about the graphic bug and if the Hd2 has enough sufficient hardware; 1Ghz cpu is MINIMUM requierement and in the video in youtube the os works really slow.
Thx
wait until its ready for the HD2 before you buy 1, because its no guarantee that it will work & if it does who knows if it will be able to download things from the marketplace
as far as graphic drivers if those arent up to par the whole UI will be pointless (laggy & choppy) to many unknowns to spend that much on a phone imo
I talked to HTC and T-mobile they expect the update mid to late june around the same time the Iphone 4g will be droppin...
sorry to say but they just fed you donkey balls =)
the only thing I have seen or even heard/downloaded is a new rom from htc and its still 6.5
it isn't 7 =/
Officially microsoft has repeatedly stated that no device will get the wp7 upgrade sadly...so take it as it were but that's the official word
Thx guys but with unofficial update i mean the russian guys who could get wp7 working on the hd2
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sorry to say but they just fed you donkey balls =)
the only thing I have seen or even heard/downloaded is a new rom from htc and its still 6.5
it isn't 7 =/
Officially microsoft has repeatedly stated that no device will get the wp7 upgrade sadly...so take it as it were but that's the official word
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can u find the official microsoft statement and give s a link here??
well..I found this:
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Cue the sad trombone, folks. If you were waiting around with your Windows Mobile 6.5 device with hopes that Microsoft would one day bless it with a new chance at life in the form of Windows Phone 7, it’s time to move on.
APC Magazine just got the full spiel from Microsoft themselves: Windows Mobile 6.5 devices won’t be upgradable to Windows Phone 7 series. (You hear that? Five hundred XDA hackers just scoffed and said “Yeah, we’ll see about that.”)
Why? Standards. Microsoft has a very, very, almost ridiculously strict set of hardware guidelines that they want manufacturing partners to follow when building Windows Phone 7 Series handsets — and for the most part, old handsets just don’t fit the bill. They either lack one of the three mandatory keys (search, back, and Windows key), or — get this — they have too many keys.
A while back, a shot of the HTC HD2 allegedly running Windows Phone 7 Series hit the net. We were quick to debunk it here, with our reasoning being that the HD2 lacked the mandatory search key. Sure enough: Microsoft’s GM of Mobile Communications in the Asia-Pacific, Natasha Kwan, says the HD2 won’t be getting the upgrade “because it doesn’t have the three buttons”.
Of course, this just means that they won’t be getting the upgrade treatment from Microsoft. As we mentioned above, there’s probably a mighty army of hackers just waiting to get their hands on Windows Phone ROMs for the sake of down-porting it to older handsets; if it’s feasible, it’ll probably happen.
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http://www.mobilecrunch.com/2010/03/01/windows-mobile-6-5-upgrade-windows-phone-7/
daam..now i'm becoming really the anti-microsoft..
and I never thought I would say that..not even after windows ME and Vista on pc..
how can they do this to us???
So they say just because there aint no search button..and there r to mush other buttons our phones wont get WP 7?
SO that means we (all HD2 users)just got f****d???dam..I spent alotta money not to change my phone in couple of month..since WM 6.5 is totally dead..
MS will change their mind
When all of us move to Android or stay with our HD2 another year at least, and many will buy the new iPhone, MS will realize what a fatal market research it is to force phone makers to a specific look (or buttons).
I am also reading they will not allow a layer of extra GUI like HTC sense to run on it, and want consistent look to all phones, regardless who is the maker. Unless they come up with an amazing GUI and themes , they can forget about me having WM7. I am more than happy with WM6.5 and HTC sense..
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BigE said:
When all of us move to Android or stay with our HD2 another year at least, and many will buy the new iPhone, MS will realize what a fatal market research it is to force phone makers to a specific look (or buttons).
I am also reading they will not allow a layer of extra GUI like HTC sense to run on it, and want consistent look to all phones, regardless who is the maker. Unless they come up with an amazing GUI and themes , they can forget about me having WM7. I am more than happy with WM6.5 and HTC sense..
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I abhor statements like this from the above poster
MS will realize the error of their ways. SURPRISE! Several users that were once wm have already moved to android and apple since 2007. Hence the campaign to revitalize the operating system. Its already been happening and if you think it can get worse for microsoft mobile after announcing wp7 to which many have said it is impressive, you are deluding yourself.
Fact remains
Google looks like vomit before htc sense, people bought google in droves. Apple has shiny buttons, people bought it in droves. I fail to see your logic from an economic standpoint beyond baseless fanboyism (dont misunderstand I am a die hard windows mobile faithful as well). People somehow buy seemingly restricted crap because of how it is marketed. Time and time again this has been proven...
so what you don't buy wp7 device...and if 100 people buy it over you, no one is really going to care if you don't buy it =)
imauser said:
can u find the official microsoft statement and give s a link here??
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Are you kidding? The internet is full of official Microsoft statements. Just a simple Google search will very likely link you to all of those sites.
Max_Terrible said:
Are you kidding? The internet is full of official Microsoft statements. Just a simple Google search will very likely link you to all of those sites.
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actually u should read my post below this one..
imauser said:
actually u should read my post below this one..
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Sorry man. Sometimes I tend to just read posts and not check whom made the post. My bad
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Sorry man. Sometimes I tend to just read posts and not check whom made the post. My bad
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thats alright friend
but the thing is really frustrating that MS does this to its loyal clients..
plus they said they do it to offer a better experience of using WP7..this is dam ridicules..I mean alright..for better exp new phones based on WP7 should have only 3 buttons..but Y it should mean that sum recent WM 6.5 phone be out of game..
personally Im cool with WM..this is a great OS(especially on Leo)..the only problem..that we aint gettin no new content(the most important for me is decent games)..
I *think* i read somewhere that MS was going to use both OS's. 7 for the ooooo and aahhh factor and 6.5 for the more business oriented side of it because the 7 series supposedly won't run any application from the previous generation.
Waiting game.
yes, that IS what they SAID, but their actions proved otherwise IMHO when they removed smart-device development from VS2010.
This is like them saying "we still support windows XP for the business user but have decided to withdraw XP-compatible app development from all of our coding products"
So I'm curious. I keep hearing that Microsoft made the announcement that the HD2 won't be getting WP7 upgrades, but does that mean that xda developers can't hack the ROM to work with WP7? I guess my question is whether the HD2 meets the minimum system requirements of WP7. The ones that I saw only left a few things in question.
For example, I know that the HD2 is multi-touch capable but the WP7 requirements stated that it needed to be capable of four simultaneous points of contact. Can the HD2 do more than two?
Also, the WP7 requirements spoke of something like 8GB of a storage capacity, which even the US version only has 1GB. Does the MicroSD not count?
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So I'm curious. I keep hearing that Microsoft made the announcement that the HD2 won't be getting WP7 upgrades, but does that mean that xda developers can't hack the ROM to work with WP7? I guess my question is whether the HD2 meets the minimum system requirements of WP7. The ones that I saw only left a few things in question.
For example, I know that the HD2 is multi-touch capable but the WP7 requirements stated that it needed to be capable of four simultaneous points of contact. Can the HD2 do more than two?
Also, the WP7 requirements spoke of something like 8GB of a storage capacity, which even the US version only has 1GB. Does the MicroSD not count?
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Dun worry, the chefs at XDA are notorious for making ROMs not made for that particular device.
travis.garrison said:
I know that the HD2 is multi-touch capable but the WP7 requirements stated that it needed to be capable of four simultaneous points of contact. Can the HD2 do more than two?
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I don't know this 100% for sure, but AFAIK the screen on the HD2 is capable of true multi-touch, as in - as many fingers as you can fit on it. The reason it's only currently capable of 2 point touch is because there aren't drivers available to handle more. The drivers that are currently available were adapated from the HTC drivers, which don't handle full multi-touch - just 2 point touch.
you can donate for WP7 porting for HD2 if you want:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=684346
There is one definitive reason, and one stupid reason the HD 2 won't be getting Windows Phone 7.
And it won't get it, officially. If Da_G manages to do it (and I have full faith in him that if it's possible, he'll make it so), it'll still be buggy as hell.
The Stupid = Too many buttons.
Yeah, it's bad. But MS has made a commitment to be standardized across it's platform, and I can't knock that. That's a really good idea. And besides, HTC has shown time and time again that it would rather just release a new phone with upgraded software, than stick to a device and provide it regular updates.
The Realistic = No hardware scaler on the graphics board.
One of the key ways that the Xbox and the WinPhone7 are going to be able to play the same games is by utilitzing a hardware scaler instead of processing the resolution difference sperately. I doubt the HD2 has one of those.
when this is right then soon wp7 will be real big
http://www.unwiredview.com/2010/12/20/holy-crap-nokia-is-in-talks-with-microsoft-about-windows-phone-devices/
http://mynokiablog.com/2010/12/20/nokia-and-microsoft-discussing-wp7-on-nokia-says-eldar/
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UnwiredView reports that according to Eldar, Nokia are working on a Windows Phone 7 phone!
Nokia has always been adamant that there will only be, S40, Symbian and MeeGo. Android was not the answer. That was, as they say, “peeing in their pants to stay warm”. Temporary measure with poor long term outcome. Before I get onto Eldar…
I’ve referenced this video a few times but remember the MeeGo interview with Marko Ahtisaari. Though Android on Nokia was refused, WP7 was not so blatantly denied. WP7 was supposedly different, though too early to tell, offered an interesting pattern.
On talking about Android:
“We’re interest in using platforms where we can add value and if that were the case – then. But it isn’t right now”
Android apparently doesn’t answer this. Symbian and Android apparently has the same pattern. WP7 is a different one
So, other than Analysis of Mr Ahtisaari’s comments, what does Eldar have to say?
Supposedly, Nokia’s new management (Microsoft VP turned Nokia CEO?) initiated talks with Microsoft to expand cooperation. Not just technology exchange, or more Microsoft apps on Nokia phones but the creation of Window Phone 7 devices sold by Nokia. This, in true Eldar Style, is both companies desperate attempts to rescue themselves from the onslaught of Android.
Eldar isn’t in favour of this partnership. The strong command of development is taken away from Nokia (if true). He reminds us of a Nokia quote in reference to Siemens and BenQ that an eagle will not come out of two hens. Well, Siemens and BenQ, the only similarities are that they both used to make phones. Microsoft and Nokia are still pretty much giants in the game and as is Intel (MeeGo partnership). And this millennium is the year of Biological engineering so who knows what legendary chimera can arise? No more infertile mules please.
Eldar via UnwiredView << Cheers to Arts for the tip!
Just like the Android denials, do you reckon if this is picked up by major blogs like Giz/En that Nokia will publicly deny this too?
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original posted by wpcentralThe world is aflutter today (and journalism has taken a back seat) with the unsubstantiated rumor that Nokia, under leadership of Nokia CEO Stephen Elop, who used to work with Microsoft, is in secret talks to work with Microsoft on releasing some Windows Phones. The rumor comes from Eldar Murtazin, who has attained near celebrity status with his rumor posts, despite the mediocre track record. In a post he writes (translated):
In the last month behind closed doors is a discussion of expanded cooperation Nokia and Microsoft (two-way discussion, initiated by the new leadership of Nokia). Not simply the exchange of technology, but creating an entire line of Windows Phone devices that may go under the name Nokia, through the sales channels for the company, and will also have the characteristic features of its products. This is a desperate measure of the two companies. The last step for the salvation of Android, which crushes everything in its path.
Nokia has very recently denied such future moves, instead reaffirrming their committment to Symbian and MeeGo OS, yet the rumor persists, perhaps out of wishful thinking. It is certainly possible that Nokia may release a secondary line of phones with WP7 on board--heck, Palm did the same years ago till they got back on their feet (to fall on their face again)--but we're not holding our breath on this one. For one, there is no secondary source that comes even close to backing this up and number two, financially it doesn't make much sense (see summary at ZDNet).
But we'll leave the possibility open. We're just not that confident in the idea. Even if Nokia does go forward with a Windows Phone line, so what? Has Nokia hardware (in absence of their OS) been anything truly remarkable? Or has HTC, Samsung and Apple grabbed the spotlight with hardware innovation and unique design? Call us cynical, but we're going with the latter. If Nokia and Microsoft hatch out a plan though, it will only help Windows Phone presence in the market. That is something we could live with, even if we are skeptical of the whole idea.
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I would imagine this would spark the platform in EU where Nokia is still a top brand.. in the US, Nokia had its hayday about 10 years ago but at least they could put price pressure on devices here as well
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I would imagine this would spark the platform in EU where Nokia is still a top brand.. in the US, Nokia had its hayday about 10 years ago but at least they could put price pressure on devices here as well
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I didn't mean to thank you, I meant to press Quote but enjoy the free Thanks anyway
The EU is a much bigger market than the US infact the US is quite tiny in comparison. Mobile phones is probably the only thing where Europe comes on top and it is the reason why many phones, not just smartphones, are released only in Europe (and Asia) and not at all in the US.
American Tech Blogs, Engadget, Gizmodo etc etc are constantly bashing Nokia because of Symbain and saying their Phones are awful but at the end of the day they sell more than RIM, HTC, Samsung and even Apple.
WP7 on Nokia devices would be MASSIVE. However, I'm not sure weather there is any truth in this. Microsoft have in the past tried to push nokia to adopt Windows Mobile and they've said no. Nokia like to do their own thing really and they can't really do that with Windows Phone due to no Customisation.
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I didn't mean to thank you, I meant to press Quote but enjoy the free Thanks anyway
The EU is a much bigger market than the US infact the US is quite tiny in comparison. Mobile phones is probably the only thing where Europe comes on top and it is the reason why many phones, not just smartphones, are released only in Europe (and Asia) and not at all in the US.
American Tech Blogs, Engadget, Gizmodo etc etc are constantly bashing Nokia because of Symbain and saying their Phones are awful but at the end of the day they sell more than RIM, HTC, Samsung and even Apple.
WP7 on Nokia devices would be MASSIVE. However, I'm not sure weather there is any truth in this. Microsoft have in the past tried to push nokia to adopt Windows Mobile and they've said no. Nokia like to do their own thing really and they can't really do that with Windows Phone due to no Customisation.
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There is quite a change within Nokia, they are going through a major restructuring, so if Microsoft and Nokia really want to MS might as well acquire them, it will not be surprising.
I am not sure how spending more money for mobile market than already allocated for advertisement ($500 million or so) is in the MS interest though.
Lets not forget to quote the entire thing:
"In the last month behind closed doors is a discussion of expanded cooperation Nokia and Microsoft (two-way discussion, initiated by the new leadership of Nokia). Not simply the exchange of technology, but creating an entire line of Windows Phone devices that may go under the name Nokia, through the sales channels for the company, and will also have the characteristic features of its products. This is a desperate measure of the two companies. The last step for the salvation of Android, which crushes everything in its path." -Eldar
The guy has a not so good track record. You're better off believing in the secret society of Illumaniti that only the people on the internet know about.
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Lets not forget to quote the entire thing:
"In the last month behind closed doors is a discussion of expanded cooperation Nokia and Microsoft (two-way discussion, initiated by the new leadership of Nokia). Not simply the exchange of technology, but creating an entire line of Windows Phone devices that may go under the name Nokia, through the sales channels for the company, and will also have the characteristic features of its products. This is a desperate measure of the two companies. The last step for the salvation of Android, which crushes everything in its path." -Eldar
The guy has a not so good track record. You're better off believing in the secret society of Illumaniti that only the people on the internet know about.
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LOL , I think I mist something on here , I only read that I have posted , not what Eldar posted.
Edit: I updated the first post.
In response to the question on WPCentral:
Has Nokia hardware (in absence of their OS) been anything truly remarkable?
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YES!
- The Nokia N95 had the BEST camera I have had the pleasure of using to date, it was an innovative slider sliding one way for a keypad and the other way for media controls
- The Nokia N8 has a 12 megapixel camera which blows away anything else I've ever seen on a phone.
I want my Nokia Windows Phone 7 phone with a 12 megapixel camera and Carl Zeiss Lens!
http://www.thetechherald.com/articl...-to-drop-Symbian-in-favour-of-Windows-Phone-7
Updated article. This should provice WP7 with some market share.
brummiesteven said:
In response to the question on WPCentral:
YES!
- The Nokia N95 had the BEST camera I have had the pleasure of using to date, it was an innovative slider sliding one way for a keypad and the other way for media controls
- The Nokia N8 has a 12 megapixel camera which blows away anything else I've ever seen on a phone.
I want my Nokia Windows Phone 7 phone with a 12 megapixel camera and Carl Zeiss Lens!
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I second this the n95 was a properly amazing phone that was way ahead of anything at the time. This is not the only example either look back to the late 90's with the 5110 even and the nokia communicator. They have slipped slightly in resent years but that's only due to the os there hardware is sound and solidly built to match.
If they do join forces then it will catapult wp7 back into the big league where it belongs. Lets just hope Nokia can see this.
It's great
Cannot wait for a Nokia WP7 device.
Nokia doesn't have much of a presence here in the U.S. but the few phones I've dealt with were very good. I'd love to see Nokia and WP7 together. I think it's a great match.
Why is there so much negativity on this!!! I just saw another article about this and it was blasting Nokia for making this move. It seems every reporter and media outlet can't wait for WP7 to fail. In my office, another friend just bought a WP7 phone so that makes 4 of us and 3 iPhone users. The rest have other phones or Blackberries (company issued).
So here's a sarcastic list:
Top ten reasons not to buy WP7
Top ten reasons WP7 users are losers
Top ten reasons Nokia shouldn't sell WP7 phones
Top ten reasons WP7 will fail
Top ten reasons anything, anytime, anywhere from Microsoft should be avoided
etc, etc
Engadget just got some news about potential talks/announcement next week on something.. (possibly wp7)
http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/04/nokia-microsoft-announcing-partnership-next-week-possibly-invo/
Drop Symbian for this BS? It would possibly be the dumbest move of the year.
I surely hope Nokia would go on WP7. But I have my doubts... Most of in a Finnish forum is criticizing the rumor, if Nokia would go on WP7. They say, it would be the biggest mistake (I think they have not even try WP7). What I think, it would be the greatest for Nokia for a long time, I mean a loooong time.
I just bought an Omnia 7. I think it's awesome. My first Windows phone and it's awesome. Okey the old WM was terrible. I have never, ever even thinking about to try that, it looked so ugly and clumsy OS in a phone. But WP7 is so 100% made for a phone OS. And it's beautiful. With Nokia co-operation I think the WP7 could be also coming more popular in Scandinavian, which of course it is not now, because of the lack of localisation.
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Drop Symbian for this BS? It would possibly be the dumbest move of the year.
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You are so Anti-WP7, Pro-Android why do you even bother posting in here?
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You are so Anti-WP7, Pro-Android why do you even bother posting in here?
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And why do you even bother to reply on his BS
On the topic: If this happens it would be a very big win for Microsoft. They will finally have top-notch hardware for their OS plus a big name on it. However I do not see the real benefit for Nokia. They're gonna lose most of their identity in such move. In the other hand they've missed their momentum investing so much on Symbian and currently have not many choices. It will be a very hard decision for them.
PS: Personally, as an ordinary consumer, I also would like to see the quality of Nokia hardware combined with WP7.
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You are so Anti-WP7, Pro-Android why do you even bother posting in here?
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I make it a personal goal to be on people like that's ignore lists.
In rebuttal, Nokia backing an OS that's worthwhile? Did we just travel back to the mid-nineties? Where's the delorean?
I guess you guys haven't played with a new symbian? You would totally understand.
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I guess you guys haven't played with a new symbian? You would totally understand.
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It plays like android with less support.... not the boat I want to be in...
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There is quite a change within Nokia, they are going through a major restructuring, so if Microsoft and Nokia really want to MS might as well acquire them, it will not be surprising.
I am not sure how spending more money for mobile market than already allocated for advertisement ($500 million or so) is in the MS interest though.
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i dont think MS will have there own mobile phone hardware as they work with OEM hardware vendors and if they want to keep that they will not develop or buy hardware compnies.... i beleive thats what happen ti KIN as it was a bad move because it will be conflict of intrest...
I am getting sick of all this complaining. This is a vital time when MS needs support. We need to be more like Apple users in supporting our company. The apathetic nature of MS users makes me sick. Sometimes I feel like I am the only MS user who actively goes out and spreads good word about MS. User of MS products just go along happily using it but never actually spread the word like Apple fans do. That's why Apple is so succesful and MS is not in the mobile sector. The only time they come out of the woodwork is to complain.
See the whole windows home server and drive extender saga. Where were these people when Apple was bashing MS left and right? Nowhere. Now that they remove DE, they are screaming murder saying MS had the best product they've ever owned. Well perhaps you should have spread the word then.
So this thread is so say WE SUPPORT YOU, MS! You have a done a great job. Who else is with me?
Gas up the bus and round up the cheerleaders. We are going cross country!
I love WP7 but I am yet to support them by buying a handset. I suspect that will change soon.
I love my WP7! Especially after using that I one and the A one I can't wait to see what they do with it in the future
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If product good, support good, sales after services good.
The customer's will come, because the they are not stupid.
I own HD7 and I see it doesn't have many thing that made it to be a good phone (just "phone") right now.
MS need to be pull many feature quickly but as we see.. 5 month ago we have nothing, but bugs are still with us.
(ex. I can't use mic when I use headphone, so every time somebody call me in, I must to be pull out the headphones jack before received the call, It's not funny.)
Customer will choose the best thing for them so, M$ must to be more a good boy.
I like M$ but I not sure to support them in the feature again,
because I didn't got the money for free.
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I love my WP7! Especially after using that I one and the A one I can't wait to see what they do with it in the future
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Haha, I couldn't help but notice you posted this from a Captivate. I own one as well and I had bought a WP7 device last week to switch back and forth as I please because I want to support MS in the mobile community, but WP7 does nothing for me. The Netflix streaming was about it, but once that hits android then it wont matter. WP7 is smooth and rarely lags, but I feel so restricted when I use it and I have my Captivate sitting next to me. I don't know if you have got into flashing custom roms for the Captivate, but if you haven't flash Andromeda 1.2. Easily competes with the fastest of phones on the market today and everything works perfectly. But now that I'm done with my sales pitch, if MS brings an improvement to WP7 then I will be trying it out as soon as I can, but what me and my brother liked about Windows phones in the past is that they were virtually limitless to the tweaks you could make. Granted not as fast or smooth, no matter what facade is on top, but if you wanted to do something then most likely you could. WP7 just feels crippled, that's just my opinion though.
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though WP7 currently lack some features that we are used to using (copy/paste, multi-tasking etc.)im loving my WP7 powered HD7.
another thing that i love (and it makes me excited too) are the upcoming updates. come to think of it, MS will be bringing us C&P in a few weeks. and after a few months itll bring us Multi tasking in which the other platforms took a long time for them to deliver. its just that, MS should pull something extra ordinary that will differentiate their platform against the others. im sure ms is already conceptualizing things that will separate wp7 amongs the rest.
Good work with the camera feature, the Metro UI, social network integration and HUBS!
i love WP7
loving chix & vixens as well...
What about the landscape keyboard? Is there ever going to be a fix to take up the whole screen width? I'm sure going from an iPhone or something with a smaller screen its fine, but I'm use to the beautiful SAMOLED screen on the Captivate having a full width keyboard. In portrait mode its on par with the Captivates portrait keyboard, but I simply can't type on the landscape one. Maybe I should have got the Quantum...
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I'd be more inclined to be supportive of Microsoft if they made it clear that they actually were trying hard to support their users, not their carrier-partners.
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I'd be more inclined to be supportive of Microsoft if they made it clear that they actually were trying hard to support their users, not their carrier-partners.
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Allowing us to uninstall the bloatware crap without Modding the phone all to pieces is a pretty big sign that they support the users and not the carrier. Its the first phone I've seen it allow such a thing.
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I love WP7 too........
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I appreciate that your intentions were good though
I've always been the first to support Microsoft but they really do need to start showing their consumers some love.
i have been MS supporter for a long time and with WP7 microsoft has done it, this OS works without softreset, do not have few things right now but i know it will be having all those options soon...
i got my HD7 end oct and i am glad i got it.... i love the cloud, love the UI, love the speed, smoothness, simplcity, integration with facebook.....
i was wondering how it will be like when i lose sync with outlook, but it did not come up after i moved my contacts to my windows live account.
guys, WP7 is a good OS and if you dont like it there are other options, the only thing i dont get it is ppl *****ing about WP7 when they knew what they will be getting and they bought it and now all the *****ing..
I support Microsoft
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But there are a lot of Microsoft haters out there.
another reason i love ms and wp7 (this is too much exciting)
IE9 coming to WP7 (later this year )
To the OP, just want to let you know something.Firstly,you say we have to be like Apple supporter and support M$.I can tell you that most Iphone users are not Apple fanboy.this is due to the product problem.
we are complaining is because the product is not good.IMO, M$ is on the wrong direction now,they have to plan and develop WP7 better,better....still a long way to go.what I see now is WP7 is just like SYMBIAN,full of bugs,but it just equipped with a better presentation.
I'm feeling pretty pity now,let's think about the updates and what we are waiting??mango and NO-DO,the feature these updates bring to us,is just some necessary and basic function and not mind-blowing.
I'm kind of tired of frequent lag and crash on marketplace,excessive noise in picture,slow app loading on my mozart.
what I said here is on a non-M$ fanboy stand point.
I will support MS back, but only when:
- They will deliver their updates,
- They will stop their unacceptable US-centric services, and provide decent services also to European customers. Which means they fix Bing Maps which is a shame,
- They will remove most of their silly WP7 restrictions and limitations,
- They will give all the APIs to the third party developers (GPS, compass, camera, etc.),
- They finally listen to their customers.
At the moment they are not fully commited to the satisfaction of their clients... Sorry.
And God knows how loyal we are....
if you have to ask...
people to support a multi billion dollar company, the company is doing something wrong.
don't blame apple or google or rim for this one. nothing to do with them at all.
I would imagine if ms actually released a full fledged update that brought it up to featureset, this thread wouldn't be needed. also, naming your first update after your competitions is just lame. nodo ? really, that's just sad.
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To the OP, just want to let you know something.Firstly,you say we have to be like Apple supporter and support M$.I can tell you that most Iphone users are not Apple fanboy.this is due to the product problem.
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Erm remember when iPhone first came out without MMS, multitasking, copypaste, etc. The Apple supporters were backing Apple by saying that they didn't need multitasking, that copy paste on mobile devices was useless and why use MMS when we have emails.
That's the kind of support I am talking about. MS users on the other hand just complain and complain.
These are some of the Apps I would like to see in the WP7 marketplace
Bump
WhatsAPP
Fring
Layer
Paypal
Word Lens
Lose IT
Around ME
what would you guys like to see ???
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These are some of the Apps I would like to see in the WP7 marketplace
Bump - I'd like this app, or a built in 'send contact' option in the OS.
WhatsAPP -Kik (similar to whatsapp) is coming in the next few weeks supposedly. But would also be nice to see WhatsAPP. I imagine we will start to see more of the 3rd party messengers come Mango, which is when we will see some decent IM clients as well.
Fring - These will likely also come with Mango which gives full camera API support to dev's.
Layer - was shown at MIX11 by Joe Belfiore, and is coming this Fall with Mango's necessary API's (as will pretty much all other augmented reality apps).
Paypal - sure why not.
Word Lens - sure why not
Lose IT - don't use any of these types, but sure why not!
Around ME - Around Me, Urban Spoon ect would be nice additions. There are some pretty decent ones already in the marketplace, but I'd like to see some more.
what would you guys like to see ??? - mostly an official Google Voice app (or one that functions like an official one would.....Mango API's should allow this to happen pretty quickly).
most of the other things I wanted are coming with Mango as described above (augmented reality apps, IM/3rd party messegers, skype/fring ect) so other than just seeing more quality apps, I want MS to add features. I'm eagerly awaiting their announcement of the "Consumer" side of the Mango features.
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what are you doing until mango ?
Personally I would love for the Gameloft/Gamevil games to make their way to the marketplace. Only thing I miss about iOS is Zenonia series and Dungeon Hunter.
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what are you doing until mango ?
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LOL...well said,you made my day mate...I can't even figure out what I can do until Mango.
i wana see longman dictionary .and oxford one
nba game time
infinity blade
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Trick question? Using my phone lol. Did I somehow make you think I couldn't function without a Layar app?
These things are not necessities to function, just what I would like to see, and they are coming.
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Lol... Agree.
Also, on the Kik thing...
Kik has been Kicked (pun intended) off of Blackberry, and it doesn't have nearly as many users as WhatsApp has. It requires yet another account creation in addition to downloading the app. WhatsApp goes by phone numbers.
WhatsApp works on Android, iOS, Blackberry, and Symbian.
Sorry, but anyone who does a lot of communication on their smartphones know that Kik is no suitable replacement for WhatsApp.
I don't even consider it an alternative.
What we need is something like Trillian for WP7, not Kik...
The OP also failed to mention Skype and Pandora. (Well I guess it was his list, I was going by the thread title )
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On what? I was answering the guys post, and responded to his list. That was it.
What an odd question. What am I doing until Mango? Not IM'ing? Not using Layar? Same thing as everybody else? It just happens that almost everything he listed is coming, and we know when its coming.
Other than apps Mango is going to allow (WhatsApp will probably come as well) I don't think we will be 'missing' many apps. I just want added functionality in the OS.
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On what? I was answering the guys post, and responded to his list. That was it.
What an odd question. What am I doing until Mango? Not IM'ing? Not using Layar? Same thing as everybody else? It just happens that almost everything he listed is coming, and we know when its coming.
Other than apps Mango is going to allow (WhatsApp will probably come as well) I don't think we will be 'missing' many apps. I just want added functionality in the OS.
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It seems as though this community thinks you need to be able to "do" something with the phone every day rather than just use it... I guess this comes from the flashing of ROMs and such... You guys are so accustomed to the WM days where we HAD to "do" something every day to make the phone usable... I'm going to agree here and say I'm going to "use" my phone, I'm going to continue texting, taking pictures, emailing, fbing, tweeting, 4sqing...etc
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What we need is something like Trillian for WP7, not Kik...
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Would still prefer Trillian... At least from my experiences with IM+ in the past... I hope they can prove me wrong this time though.
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It seems as though this community thinks you need to be able to "do" something with the phone every day rather than just use it... I guess this comes from the flashing of ROMs and such... You guys are so accustomed to the WM days where we HAD to "do" something every day to make the phone usable... I'm going to agree here and say I'm going to "use" my phone, I'm going to continue texting, taking pictures, emailing, fbing, tweeting, 4sqing...etc
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The only thing we'd like to do is install an app, but unfortunately those apps are impossible to install on our phones becaue they're impossible to implement.
This has nothing to do with Windows Mobile. I came to WP7 from Android, and if you read my posts in the Vibrant forum you'd know that I've never touched my phone in the way you seem to infer.
I have never modded any of my WM or Android devices. It's not my thing.
This OS isn't subpar because people want to mod them. It's subpar because it was designed as a subpar Feature Phone OS with good hardware while they finished the other half over the next year.
And now we'll probably have to sit on it even longer while Microsoft gives Nokia a cookie.
I dunno why you're going on and on about the WM/Android Modding crutch.
The OS just does not cut it compared to Android and iOS even if you're never modded your phone - ever, on any other platform you've used.
You paid $500 for a phone to wait a year for it to become as usable as a mid-ranged Android or Blackberry Curve? I sure as hell didn't, nor should I have been expected to do so...
It's not our fault the OS is in the shape its in, and has failed to impress anyone but a few fanbois here and there. It's Microsoft's fault.
Also, if you glance over my post history you'll see that I am equally vicious towards Android, iOS, and Blackberry as I am towards WP7. Trying to pawn me off as some Anti-Microsoft fanboi in this forum is quite hillarious... I am loyal to no platform, and equally critical of all of them. It only happens that this one is worse than the others.
Many of the criticism here can be found anywhere on the internet, even in formal reviews and unboxings. It's no mystery that this OS is both unfinished and if to be considered an actual smartphone OS (instead of a feature phone), Beta-quality.
And to the person after you, IM+ is inferior to Trillian in almost every possible way.
Also, the HD7 is a worse PHONE than the Vibrant, so even if I were willing to shut up and just deal with the OS' shortcomings, there is still that issue. The radio (or perhaps the radio firmware) is terrible and call quality and reception is not good. The external speakers are even worse than the cell radio.
I'll continue using my Vibrant to do half the **** you said you'll continue doing because it's a superior user experience. Push Notifications and Updates are simply superior on Android and there are things that are impossible to do on WP7 like emailing or MMSing videos.
But like I said, if you use your phone like a feature phone this OS no doubt seems very polished and "innovative."
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The only thing we'd like to do is install an app, but unfortunately those apps are impossible to install on our phones becaue they're impossible to implement.
This has nothing to do with Windows Mobile. I came to WP7 from Android, and if you read my posts in the Vibrant forum you'd know that I've never touched my phone in the way you seem to infer.
I have never modded any of my WM or Android devices. It's not my thing.
This OS isn't subpar because people want to mod them. It's subpar because it was designed as a subpar Feature Phone OS with good hardware while they finished the other half over the next year.
And now we'll probably have to sit on it even longer while Microsoft gives Nokia a cookie.
I dunno why you're going on and on about the WM/Android Modding crutch.
The OS just does not cut it compared to Android and iOS even if you're never modded your phone - ever, on any other platform you've used.
You paid $500 for a phone to wait a year for it to become as usable as a mid-ranged Android or Blackberry Curve? I sure as hell didn't, nor should I have been expected to do so...
It's not our fault the OS is in the shape its in, and has failed to impress anyone but a few fanbois here and there. It's Microsoft's fault.
Also, if you glance over my post history you'll see that I am equally vicious towards Android, iOS, and Blackberry as I am towards WP7. Trying to pawn me off as some Anti-Microsoft fanboi in this forum is quite hillarious... I am loyal to no platform, and equally critical of all of them. It only happens that this one is worse than the others.
Many of the criticism here can be found anywhere on the internet, even in formal reviews and unboxings. It's no mystery that this OS is both unfinished and if to be considered an actual smartphone OS (instead of a feature phone), Beta-quality.
And to the person after you, IM+ is inferior to Trillian in almost every possible way.
Also, the HD7 is a worse PHONE than the Vibrant, so even if I were willing to shut up and just deal with the OS' shortcomings, there is still that issue. The radio (or perhaps the radio firmware) is terrible and call quality and reception is not good. The external speakers are even worse than the cell radio.
I'll continue using my Vibrant to do half the **** you said you'll continue doing because it's a superior user experience. Push Notifications and Updates are simply superior on Android and there are things that are impossible to do on WP7 like emailing or MMSing videos.
But like I said, if you use your phone like a feature phone this OS no doubt seems very polished and "innovative."
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This goes on about your arrogance and apparent self created worth in this forum. Who says everything I say is directed towards you? Did I say "Hey N8ter...." - Not to mention, the phone is usable enough for me... You're also comparing a mature OS, to one in its infancy... But this is part of the double standard here... Not to mention, the HD7 is a superior device to any Vibrant I've ever touched, sorry that your experience is different.
Phone is usable enough for me, I just wish some of you would quit trying to convince me differently. Getting out of the topic of this post, you guys even go into the topics labeled "I Love My WP7" and try to spew your venom... Which is where it gets rather annoying tbh, this is a WP forum, I don't constantly want to hear the same 4-5 users ***** about it...
You, and a select other few, also seem to hold your opinions as fact, and the second somebody successfully refutes an argument you have, you attack it even harder.. Regardless of how ridiculous your point is... You become upset when somebody enjoys the experience.
Not going to entertain you today.
Mint.com
Skype/Fring
Good googletalk client
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I see there is a new RDP client that works with Windows RDP. It's by Topperware and is called Remote Desktop, which is the same name as a existing VNC client in the Marketplace. It seems to connect just fine but the connection times out after a minute in the trial version, so I couldn't play around with it much.
I suspect it is using some sort of redirection to a server somewhere. You can't use a internal IP assigned by your router but must use your external internet IP.
MLB At Bat
Scrabble
Native Remote Desktop
An IM app, but that seems to be coming soon
I'm quite puzzled as to why there isn't a Tesco Clubcard App. Tesco have had "Tesco Real Food" and "Tesco Groceries" out on the market since launch.
I really want to see many of Zynga's apps, such as Zynga Poker and Words with Friends. I realize there are many alternatives to those games, such as Full House Poker and Alpha Jax, but most of my friends play those Zynga games.
The sooner I get Mango the closer I am to knowing whether to dump this phone OS and "move" back to 6.5 with my HD2 or screw it all together and jump on the iPhone 5 bandwagon. My Focus already feels old next to my HD2 and I've only had it for 10 months. Apple and oranges I know.
Thanks for you useful and informative post
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You're welcome. Enjoy your day!
Can you explain why?
IMO - if you get an iPhone you will be like the rest of the white headphone droid army that apple have created. Again IMO iPhone users tend to have a low understanding of tech issues (eg my mum and nan now have them) they just want something trendy ! WP7 and mango rules so stick wth it
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IMO - if you get an iPhone you will be like the rest of the white headphone droid army that apple have created. Again IMO iPhone users tend to have a low understanding of tech issues (eg my mum and nan now have them) they just want something trendy ! WP7 and mango rules so stick wth it
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...that's not really a reason. Aside from "well I hate the popular brand".
To the OP: give some more info on what you're looking for. And how on -EARTH- could you ever even begin to think of going back to 6.5??? Ugly, slow, laggy, freezy, ugly. Yes it was functional (sorta - most programs locked up or just wouldn't work), but man. It loses to every other OS in every single category. My LG dumbphone from 2007 was easier to use than my Omnia II.
Not sure why you'd jump to an iPhone if WP doesn't do it for you feature wise. If you truly need WM type OS, Android is your daddy.
To me, the UI & integration in WP blows the iPhone (and all the others) out of the water. Its all whether you are a 'power' user or not. WP won't have that many features until Apollo most likely.
Why is the decision for you so hard to make. You already know what Mango has to offer. So why are you coming to us crying about WP7. Sounds like your mind is already made up on getting an iphone, so go get it and quit *****in
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Why is the decision for you so hard to make. You already know what Mango has to offer. So why are you coming to us crying about WP7. Sounds like your mind is already made up on getting an iphone, so go get it and quit *****in
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Yup the op was just trolling.....
I think issue with the op is the hype only lasts so long. Mango will be good, but after we get it we will bw like all the people who cried for froyo on their phones.
I'm considering getting a new blackberry personally. I pretty Mich gave up 6 months ago the state of this Os at release basically forced me to use android for 10th months longer than I thought I'd have to.... So Mich that the wp7 device is hard for me to remember I own it now...
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I think issue with the op is the hype only lasts so long. Mango will be good, but after we get it we will bw like all the people who cried for froyo on their phones.
I'm considering getting a new blackberry personally. I pretty Mich gave up 6 months ago the state of this Os at release basically forced me to use android for 10th months longer than I thought I'd have to.... So Mich that the wp7 device is hard for me to remember I own it now...
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Well hopefully your new blackberry will meet all your requirments, good luck!
Until RIM pull out of the market and leave you with nothing, at least MS are committed to WP. If you buy a BB you may as well go and buy a palm os as I feel the writing is on the wall for them
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Until RIM pull out of the market and leave you with nothing, at least MS are committed to WP. If you buy a BB you may as well go and buy a palm os as I feel the writing is on the wall for them
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Man, don't hold him back. The sooner he gets his new device and finally ditches his WP7, the sooner he - hopefully - vanishes from these parts of the forums.
Nah. I'll never leave this forum. You guys are too fun!
EDIT To Add: It serves me no logical purpose just to leave because I got rid of a phone becaue I go through multiple smartphones a year and I'm quite platform agnostic, so I never know when I'll get another one. It serves my best interest to be on the up and up with all the info as well as still give my feedback and suggestions IRT the platform - or any platform I've used and feel there is a chance I may use again in the future.
But you're free to continue trolling me! I'm not so quick to bite these days, unfortunately :<
If you know my history, which dates back to my using windows mobile since the early 2000's, you'd know I'm not trolling. I just find it interesting/lame, when you say something negative and people here pounce on you! You certainly wouldn't want anyone dissenting! Perhaps it's a reflection of the average age here...ah, forget it.
Been using Skype on Windows Mobile for a long time and despite the fact that MS now owns Skype, I see no evidence of it being included in this release. Brutal! They purchased Skype in May!
It's a phone and I got to press multiple buttons to make a f***ing phone call, but just two to take a picture! Lame.
****ty audio/audiobook player.
****ty video player.
No direct access to my microSD.
No smart dailer.
I've got an Onkyo NR 509 and guess what, the app for it is available for iPad/touch/phone.
Cartoonish tiles.
Speedn has stated the issues lacking and I agree with him for the most part, but go ahead and dump on someone who doesn't agree with you, or better yet, show your lack of maturity and call him names.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=844117&page=65
Everyone has their preferences and priorities. It is unfair to call out someone just because our preferences don't match. Personally I have used Symbian, WinMo 6.5, Android, and now I am using WP7. I can see where OP is coming from as I too, sometimes, miss some of the WM6.5 features. But the reliability and polish of WP7 has changed my perception. I do not have to reset my phone (hard or soft) once every few days anymore and features, although limited, just work. I used to call out Iphone users when I was with WM6.5 or Android. But after using WP7 I don't anymore. Reason: Phone needs a polished UI and reliability (OS wise, I am not discussing at&t issues). WP7 and iOS (and WebOS) are the only ones that do it right.
To summarize, OP... go ahead and try all the options. mobile OS is way more dynamic, it is our loss if we don't take advantage of it and try them all... and in case, like me, you realize WP7 is the way to go.. you are welcome back!
edved said:
If you know my history, which dates back to my using windows mobile since the early 2000's, you'd know I'm not trolling. I just find it interesting/lame, when you say something negative and people here pounce on you! You certainly wouldn't want anyone dissenting! Perhaps it's a reflection of the average age here...ah, forget it.
Been using Skype on Windows Mobile for a long time and despite the fact that MS now owns Skype, I see no evidence of it being included in this release. Brutal! They purchased Skype in May!
It's a phone and I got to press multiple buttons to make a f***ing phone call, but just two to take a picture! Lame.
****ty audio/audiobook player.
****ty video player.
No direct access to my microSD.
No smart dailer.
I've got an Onkyo NR 509 and guess what, the app for it is available for iPad/touch/phone.
Cartoonish tiles.
Speedn has stated the issues lacking and I agree with him for the most part, but go ahead and dump on someone who doesn't agree with you, or better yet, show your lack of maturity and call him names.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=844117&page=65
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So wait, you hate everything about it... but still posted a thread asking this?
I'm the first to defend someone's right to say a negative thing about wp7 (cause I sure have), and this platform is missing a lot which gets on my nerves too, but this sounds like trolllllllllllllllllllllllllllin' to me.
Know how I know you're trolling?
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arkavat said:
Everyone has their preferences and priorities. It is unfair to call out someone just because our preferences don't match. Personally I have used Symbian, WinMo 6.5, Android, and now I am using WP7. I can see where OP is coming from as I too, sometimes, miss some of the WM6.5 features. But the reliability and polish of WP7 has changed my perception. I do not have to reset my phone (hard or soft) once every few days anymore and features, although limited, just work. I used to call out Iphone users when I was with WM6.5 or Android. But after using WP7 I don't anymore. Reason: Phone needs a polished UI and reliability (OS wise, I am not discussing at&t issues). WP7 and iOS (and WebOS) are the only ones that do it right.
To summarize, OP... go ahead and try all the options. mobile OS is way more dynamic, it is our loss if we don't take advantage of it and try them all... and in case, like me, you realize WP7 is the way to go.. you are welcome back!
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Wow! A voice of reason. Ya, I'll give you that. It is a pretty reliable OS, but then again I have installed in comparison to my HD2 with 6.5, very few must have apps on this unit.
Thanks dude.
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So wait, you hate everything about it... but still posted a thread asking this?
I'm the first to defend someone's right to say a negative thing about wp7 (cause I sure have), and this platform is missing a lot which gets on my nerves too, but this sounds like trolllllllllllllllllllllllllllin' to me.
Know how I know you're trolling?
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How old are you? Like 12!!! Go back to playing your video games!
edved said:
How old are you? Like 12!!! Go back to playing your video games!
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Turned 30 this year tyvm.
Growing old is mandatory, growing up is optional.
And fyi: the age of the average gamer is 35 (^)
You sound like a parent in the 70's when you say things like that.
The point is that this is another one of those "everything about wp7 is crap" posts. It is unhelpful because it is vanishingly unlikely that Microsoft will do an about turn and make WP7 like WM6.5 or (God forbid) like android. I think it is great when people post useful suggestions for WP7 (particularly when they also post them on MS boards) or when people come up with stuff that helps us get the best out of our phones, but I have had it with the WP7 is crap stuff, IF YOU DONT LIKE IT GET A DIFFERENT PHONE AND LET THOSE WHO ARE ENTHUSIASTIC ABOUT IT TALK ABOUT IT IN PEACE.
Have a nice day y'all........