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Hi,
If someone can explain this to me ...
I found out that there is separation on Android Market, user from certain countries cannot purchase certain apps.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=6046360&postcount=4
Why is that?
So, if I am in the UK, I can only purchase apps that are available ONLY for UK market?
I could not think any single reason of this kind of decision will help the customers and the developers.
Why is it not just ONE SINGLE Android Market for EVERYONE?
Well. Nobody really knows. Its very annoying. Its the same story here in Denmark. No paid apps on non-rootet phones with Market enabler.
HTC and google can not give us an answer to why or when paid apps will be availble for us.
Indeed, this is very annoying and I could not think any benefit of it.
I am just wondering, is there anything like this on iPhone? There is in WM, but I believe Microsoft decided to change that on WP7.
I hope Google will change this decission to make Android more attractive to software developers.
I suspect that the country filtering is present for several reasons.
1. Country specific applications. There is no need for an app that only applies to i.e. the UK to be displayed in Asia or in the US.
2. Copyright and trademark issues. Arrangements needs to be done in each country as laws are different.
3. Localization. I assume that Google does not want to add paid apps support in countries not yet fully localized to the local language. This was the case when Android was initially released. The G1 was released in the UK and in the US, and paid apps did not become avaliable until Android had been localized to for example German or French. Once the translations were complete, paid apps followed shortly after.
While Android is currently localized to several other languages, Norwegian included, these translations are far from complete, and needs some additional work.
Hopefully it should not take so long, but hey, who knows.
I will download the localization strings in a short while, and try to perfect them a bit more. After all, Android is open source.
Actually it does make sense for some application to be available in only one country. To give you an example, why would someone in the UK be interested in an application about traffic in Copenhagen? When a developer publishes his app he can chose to make it available for all countries or just for specific countries. Blackberry App World has something like this and I'm not 100% sure but I think the iphone also.
And what if you want go to Copenhagen?
Are free aps also separated or is it just payed ones?
syd2o2 said:
And what if you want go to Copenhagen?
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Exactly! Also, I don't think copyright would have anything to do with it. AFAIK, it wouldn't matter which country you made your app available to. If it's copyrighted and you disctribute it, you're in trouble.
I can't imagine google getting involved in copyright issues for each and every app. Im pretty sure they would shift liability to the developer/provider in their terms and conditions.
Localisation exists for the following reasons.
1. Language. You can make 1 app that supports all languages, but if there is a lot of text this would cause the app to bloat with unnecessary stuff. simpler to make apps for each language/region.
2. Localisation. The dev may decide there is no point in his app being available outside his particular locale. The first App i noticed this with was to do with the American Presidential elections. Of course I can still see a lot of US specific Transport Apps here in the UK, because the dev has decided it would be worthwile people from other regions having them (holidaymakers for instance).
3. Payment. If you set up an app for worldwide distribution it is priced in your own local currency. If you price an App for a specific region it is priced in that regions currency. This means the price of an app will not fluctuate with exchange rates, which may make people more likely to buy.
I live in Denmark, and as i understand it, the reason why we cannot have the payed apps here are because Google and the telephone companies have not agreed about how the payment modells are to work.
-They both want to big a cut of the cake.
Heh, the funny thing is that Google owns Admob, and their own Adwords service. They essentially makes a lot of money regardless of whether the developer chooses to support it through ads or through direct sales.
I stumbled across this website last night which lists (what looks like) every app on the Android marketplace, along with a QR Code (3D Barcode).
http :// www . cyrket . com
Could this be a workaround to be able to get hold of applications not available in certain countries? It's just that I can't help but notice japanese titles on there with a Yen price next to them.
I've just ordered my Desire today, but have been trying to find out which apps are available - I'm a little annoyed you can't just browse them on the android marketplace website!
Usually the QR code is just for a marketplace search, if it isn't available in your location or phone then you still can't download it.
The only way to bypass this is direct purchase from the developer or downloading the apk to install with an apkinstaller.
Then why there is not any alternative market?
You know, just a website which developer can submit their app there ... accessible via special app from the phone ... do the transaction via web
Like download.com Or cydia for the iPhone?
Microsoft will do it (single unified app market place) with WP7, why not Google? Strange ...
Ah I see, bugger... That's a shame.
Surely it's down to the developer to make it a global rather than a regional app on publishing to the marketplace?
Yay! As from mailed by: "[email protected]" (dev)
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New Windows Phone Dev Tools for the next version of Windows Phone Available in May
Earlier this month at MIX we announced that we will release in May a new set of Windows Phone Developer Tools for the next version of Windows Phone. Developers can use the new tools to create the next-generation of Windows Phone apps and games, which will be faster, more capable, and more deeply integrated with the next version of Windows Phone.
The next version of Windows Phone will be available to consumers later this year and will introduce many features, such as multitasking, the best mobile Web experience with IE9 and HTML 5, support of real time communication and messaging, twitter integration with the People Hub, and a broader connectivity to Skydrive.
The new Developer Tools will allow you to write apps that make full use of multitasking via fast application switching and background agents; runtime and framework enhancements with over 1,500 new APIs and the support of Silverlight 4, access to new sensors, on-device SQL CE database, and Phone Contacts and Calendar stores; socket support to enable networking communication beyond HTTP; XNA/Silverlight Integration; and an improved Push Notification and Live Tile experience. The new Developer Tools will also include a new emulator will full support for accelerometer and GPS location data.
We are very excited about the opportunities the new release will create for developers, and we look forward to the next wave of innovation in apps and games.
For more details on the new features supported by the next version of Windows Phone and the new Developer Tools check out the MIX Webcasts!
Extended Marketplace Opportunities in the next version of Windows Phone
Also at MIX, we presented a comprehensive list of new features that will improve the Windows Phone Marketplace experience for both consumers and developers with the next version of Windows Phone.
For consumers, the new Windows Phone Marketplace experience will include an improved design with panes and more panoramas, a better search experience with autocomplete queries and search results grouped by app, music, or games sections. A new jump list and a soft-search button will make it easier to find installed apps on Windows phones. (fiinix: well, the leaked search button, that a guy by accident cam'ed (Link to post))
For developers, the new Windows Phone Marketplace experience will introduce new Beta and Private Distribution services and a more streamlined app submission flow. More details on the certification status of apps will be available in the App Lifecycle tab and an updated Dashboard will provide notifications and important performance indicators. Developers will also be able to perform more granular data analysis and filtering with the ability to export data from the download and payout reports to XML.
Finally, we will extend the reach of the Windows Phone Marketplace from 16 to 35 countries, increasing the market potential for your apps and games. The 19 new end-user countries are:
Brazil, Chile, Colombia, Czech Republic, Denmark, Finland, Greece, Hungary, India, Japan, Netherlands, Norway, Poland, Portugal, Russia, South Africa, South Korea, Sweden and Taiwan. (fiinix: Yay! Netherlands and Sweden (My countries get Marketplace, no need to cross UK account anymore?))
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Nice!
Chile will have full marketplace support now!
Can we imagine hackers May be port Mango on devices from the SDK tools release in May?
Thanks for the info
Will developers have access to mango beta at the same time ? I think it was mentioned in MIX 11 that there will be a beta version available for download.
I have asked the WP7 support via Twitter and they said nothing has been announced officially :-(
Anyhow I think there will be a beta version before the official, we just don't know when.
Cyruss89 said:
I have asked the WP7 support via Twitter and they said nothing has been announced officially :-(
Anyhow I think there will be a beta version before the official, we just don't know when.
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yeah saw that email. Nice cant wait to play with it.
What I dont understand is if you compile an app using these new apis will we be able to test it on a device and submit it to the marketplace or do we need seperate tools and compile for pre mango without those apis and post mango?
That will be a bit ****, certainly if there is no mango for devs so we cant test on real devices.
Marvin_S said:
yeah saw that email. Nice cant wait to play with it.
What I dont understand is if you compile an app using these new apis will we be able to test it on a device and submit it to the marketplace or do we need seperate tools and compile for pre mango without those apis and post mango?
That will be a bit ****, certainly if there is no mango for devs so we cant test on real devices.
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It will be the same as when devs were given access to the emulator before the RTM release of Windows Phone. Some developers will be given Mango to test on - just like some people received developer devices.
Most of us will not be able to test the changes on devices until Mango is released. Only high-profile clients and a limited number of developers will most likely have access to a Mango build.
Blade0rz said:
It will be the same as when devs were given access to the emulator before the RTM release of Windows Phone. Some developers will be given Mango to test on - just like some people received developer devices.
Most of us will not be able to test the changes on devices until Mango is released. Only high-profile clients and a limited number of developers will most likely have access to a Mango build.
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ah and apps with mango capabilities will just be put on hold in the marketplace until sombody actually has mango installed
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Nice!
Chile will have full marketplace support now!
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Don't get too excited!
always a shoot and a miss...always
anyway good stuff I can't wait to update my dev tools for may!
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highly doubt that rumor is true. Microsoft nl said dutch language support will come, this is why existing users bought wp7 they promised the support coming in april with nodo but it became mango. It would be stupid not to give them the native language support after promises and delays of approx 6 months (assumin mango in september). We will get our dutch language support, thats what I read and what I believe. It wont boost sales if they will treat their customers otherwise. Just a brainless rumor and I believe they even misquoted their french source (bad translation, causes a bunch of brainless panic). Certainly in our country and the other new language supported countries being multi-lingual is very important so those languages (the current plus the native) are essential.
fiinix said:
Yay! As from mailed by: "[email protected]" (dev)
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New Windows Phone Dev Tools for the next version of Windows Phone Available in May
Earlier this month at MIX we announced that we will release in May a new set of Windows Phone Developer Tools for the next version of Windows Phone. Developers can use the new tools to create the next-generation of Windows Phone apps and games, which will be faster, more capable, and more deeply integrated with the next version of Windows Phone.
The next version of Windows Phone will be available to consumers later this year and will introduce many features, such as multitasking, the best mobile Web experience with IE9 and HTML 5, support of real time communication and messaging, twitter integration with the People Hub, and a broader connectivity to Skydrive.
The new Developer Tools will allow you to write apps that make full use of multitasking via fast application switching and background agents; runtime and framework enhancements with over 1,500 new APIs and the support of Silverlight 4, access to new sensors, on-device SQL CE database, and Phone Contacts and Calendar stores; socket support to enable networking communication beyond HTTP; XNA/Silverlight Integration; and an improved Push Notification and Live Tile experience. The new Developer Tools will also include a new emulator will full support for accelerometer and GPS location data.
We are very excited about the opportunities the new release will create for developers, and we look forward to the next wave of innovation in apps and games.
For more details on the new features supported by the next version of Windows Phone and the new Developer Tools check out the MIX Webcasts!
Extended Marketplace Opportunities in the next version of Windows Phone
Also at MIX, we presented a comprehensive list of new features that will improve the Windows Phone Marketplace experience for both consumers and developers with the next version of Windows Phone.
For consumers, the new Windows Phone Marketplace experience will include an improved design with panes and more panoramas, a better search experience with autocomplete queries and search results grouped by app, music, or games sections. A new jump list and a soft-search button will make it easier to find installed apps on Windows phones. (fiinix: well, the leaked search button, that a guy by accident cam'ed (Link to post))
For developers, the new Windows Phone Marketplace experience will introduce new Beta and Private Distribution services and a more streamlined app submission flow. More details on the certification status of apps will be available in the App Lifecycle tab and an updated Dashboard will provide notifications and important performance indicators. Developers will also be able to perform more granular data analysis and filtering with the ability to export data from the download and payout reports to XML.
Finally, we will extend the reach of the Windows Phone Marketplace from 16 to 35 countries, increasing the market potential for your apps and games. The 19 new end-user countries are:
Brazil, Chile, Colombia, Czech Republic, Denmark, Finland, Greece, Hungary, India, Japan, Netherlands, Norway, Poland, Portugal, Russia, South Africa, South Korea, Sweden and Taiwan. (fiinix: Yay! Netherlands and Sweden (My countries get Marketplace, no need to cross UK account anymore?))
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YEEEES! Let's hope they won't rip us off with pricing
Heathcliff74 said:
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Yeah, and that news says "language" not countries I really hope they extend the support to allow developers here to publish applications.
As the title suggests... i have a student developer account with APP HUB, can I update PREVIEW mango version (released/releasing these few days) with my phone still?
As i know, currently its the "paid" developers that have access to Preview mango update.
Let me know~ really hoping this works!!
i want to know too please
toothfish said:
As the title suggests... i have a student developer account with APP HUB, can I update PREVIEW mango version (released/releasing these few days) with my phone still?
As i know, currently its the "paid" developers that have access to Preview mango update.
Let me know~ really hoping this works!!
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Student App Hub accounts are identical to normal App Hub accounts.
nop they are not, they are similair but different.
I dont think the beta is coming as soon as they said
https://twitter.com/#!/BrandonWatson/status/83158862823297025
Rats...... but thanks for the update~
The update is indeed for paid and registered mango beta testers. So you do not only have to have a paid account, but you also need to be registered for beta testing Mango.
Further more, if you are such developer and you upgrade to Mango, be aware that there are new limitations to sideloading! Many homebrew tools and OEM tools won't be possible to sideload anymore.
When the moment is there that the update is available (not tomorrow), and you do decide to upgrade, I really want to ask everyone to capture the traffic during the update-process with Wireshark. If we have as much captures as possible, we can possibly create our own updater, like Chris Walsh did with NoDo. But we do need as much captures as possible to see which phones get which rom-packages. We should avoid half updates like in the original tool from Chris Walsh.
If you have a capture of the update, please post here.
Thanks,
Heathcliff74
Heathcliff74 said:
The update is indeed for paid and registered mango beta testers. So you do not only have to have a paid account, but you also need to be registered for beta testing Mango.
Further more, if you are such developer and you upgrade to Mango, be aware that there are new limitations to sideloading! Many homebrew tools and OEM tools won't be possible to sideload anymore.
When the moment is there that the update is available (not tomorrow), and you do decide to upgrade, I really want to ask everyone to capture the traffic during the update-process with Wireshark. If we have as much captures as possible, we can possibly create our own updater, like Chris Walsh did with NoDo. But we do need as much captures as possible to see which phones get which rom-packages. We should avoid half updates like in the original tool from Chris Walsh.
If you have a capture of the update, please post here.
Thanks,
Heathcliff74
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Any How to for capturing the traffic, I'm sure tons of people would like to participate if it was easy. Just start Wireshark and upload the log and that's it?
Yeah man, I'm willing to give this a shot when the update comes out, more than willing for the community... jejeje
I would like to know how to do this. I can post whatever comes out... I have an Arrive... We shall see... jejeje
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Heathcliff74 said:
The update is indeed for paid and registered mango beta testers. So you do not only have to have a paid account, but you also need to be registered for beta testing Mango.
Further more, if you are such developer and you upgrade to Mango, be aware that there are new limitations to sideloading! Many homebrew tools and OEM tools won't be possible to sideload anymore.
When the moment is there that the update is available (not tomorrow), and you do decide to upgrade, I really want to ask everyone to capture the traffic during the update-process with Wireshark. If we have as much captures as possible, we can possibly create our own updater, like Chris Walsh did with NoDo. But we do need as much captures as possible to see which phones get which rom-packages. We should avoid half updates like in the original tool from Chris Walsh.
If you have a capture of the update, please post here.
Thanks,
Heathcliff74
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ok,i'm with an apphub account(student) so the mango update for developers will be available on the dowload section directly on apphub(like the mango SDK 7.1) or i have to register my device ID to my account?
i couldn't myself,it's microsoft to register my device ID to my apphub account it is?
Heathcliff74 said:
When the moment is there that the update is available (not tomorrow), and you do decide to upgrade, I really want to ask everyone to capture the traffic during the update-process with Wireshark. If we have as much captures as possible, we can possibly create our own updater, like Chris Walsh did with NoDo. But we do need as much captures as possible to see which phones get which rom-packages. We should avoid half updates like in the original tool from Chris Walsh.
If you have a capture of the update, please post here.
Thanks,
Heathcliff74
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I think they'll do something similar to the XBox Dashboard Previews, meaning that ultimately you'll be able to install mango preview on any device, but they'll enable Windows Live sign-in only for registered devices, server side.
Unfortunately Microsoft has always been *****y about these preview things.
blindpet said:
Any How to for capturing the traffic, I'm sure tons of people would like to participate if it was easy. Just start Wireshark and upload the log and that's it?
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I'm no expert in Wireshark. I know how to use it for my own purposes. So this is what I would do, but if someone else has additional suggestions, feel free to help. The updates are over standard http, not https, so that makes it easier.
- Connect your phone to your computer and wait for Zune to be ready with sync.
- Download and start Wireshark.
- Select the network-interface you want to log (to be sure keep only one network-interface enabled, just to be sure you'll capture the correct interface).
- To be sure you capture the traffic from the phone too, go to menu Edit / Preferences. Select User Interface / Capture. And enable option Capture packets in Promiscuous Mode.
- To filter all unwanted data type this in the Filter textbox: http && !tcp.analysis.out_of_order && !tcp.analysis.retransmission
- Start update with Zune.
- When the update is ready, stop the capture and save it to a file.
To test if this works, do the above and use Internet Explorer on your phone. You should see the traffic in Wireshark.
hd2leo_fusion said:
ok,i'm with an apphub account(student) so the mango update for developers will be available on the dowload section directly on apphub(like the mango SDK 7.1) or i have to register my device ID to my account?
i couldn't myself,it's microsoft to register my device ID to my apphub account it is?
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I clearly said it was for paid and registered developers. Have you paid for your student account? Guess not. So unfortunately this beta is not going available for you. Even if you would register as a beta-tester. I wouldn't know how to do that anyway, because I haven't done that.
Heathcliff74 said:
I clearly said it was for paid and registered developers. Have you paid for your student account? Guess not. So unfortunately this beta is not going available for you. Even if you would register as a beta-tester. I wouldn't know how to do that anyway, because I haven't done that.
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Thats interesting... May I ask where you have that information from? I could not find anything on the create.msdn.com (app hub) forums about it. Was it in the news section somewhere?
Quite odd they wont give it to students.
Marvin_S said:
Thats interesting... May I ask where you have that information from? I could not find anything on the create.msdn.com (app hub) forums about it. Was it in the news section somewhere?
Quite odd they wont give it to students.
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Ciao,
Heathcliff74
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Yes read those, it does not specifically says student accounts wont get it. Brandon watson also tweeted "@arnehelseth Every developer matters. Every. Single. One. Deep breath everyone". Don't know if this means something and is in the right context or not.
The articles just say it will be released to developer unlocked apphub account, which you can normally get by paying 99$ (they dont speak about student unlocks in particular).
"Neowin has received multiple independent tips that the beta will be made available for all devices through the MSDN Create hub for those with developer accounts, on June 22/23, with Microsoft set to make the announcement sometime during the next 24 hours. The beta will not be restricted to "favorite" developers but will be generally available to anyone with a paid subscription, and will be able to be loaded on any of the production devices."
Yes it indicates paid subscription, however does not really rule out student subscriptions since they are pretty much equal to MS. I dont know if we have to take these words literally or if its quickly written.
"The software giant will also offer beta bits for developers to load directly onto their devices, reports Neowin. Mango ROMs will be made available to existing Windows Phone developers via Microsoft’s App Hub development program. Access to the developer program is charged at $99 per year."
Students have free access to the App Hub development program.
I could not find where you need to sign up for the beta, have not read a mention about this. I could not find it in these sources.
You are probably right though that its only for paid subscriptions, since its easier to check who is a ginuine dev. I just wondered since I have not seen a clear "No to student account" post so I was not really sure about what to believe. Thank you for the clearification.
All sources I read stated that you need to have a paid registration. So it does not say 'no students' but students don't pay, so I guess that rules it out.
About the registered Mango beta tester, I don't see it right now, but I'm sure I've read that.
Anyway, we'll wait and see. Speculating now is not of much use.
Heathcliff74 said:
All sources I read stated that you need to have a paid registration. So it does not say 'no students' but students don't pay, so I guess that rules it out.
About the registered Mango beta tester, I don't see it right now, but I'm sure I've read that.
Anyway, we'll wait and see. Speculating now is not of much use.
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True, and they can always make a change of heart. Thanks we will see. If students get it, ill try and log the process with wireshark.
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True, and they can always make a change of heart. Thanks we will see. If students get it, ill try and log the process with wireshark.
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Ok. That would be cool. But I have to stress again: If you upgrade to Mango, be aware that there are new limitations to sideloading! Many homebrew tools and OEM tools won't be possible to sideload anymore. So if that is a problem for you, then you shouldn't upgrade. What would be interesting to know is, if you have such software that uses native code (like WP7 Root Tools, TouchXplorer, Screencam, etc) already on your phone, will it still be possible to use it after the upgrade?? And.. will the ChevronWP7 unlock survive the upgrade if you have to "prevent relock tweak" applied??
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Ok. That would be cool. But I have to stress again: If you upgrade to Mango, be aware that there are new limitations to sideloading! Many homebrew tools and OEM tools won't be possible to sideload anymore. So if that is a problem for you, then you shouldn't upgrade. What would be interesting to know is, if you have such software that uses native code (like WP7 Root Tools, TouchXplorer, Screencam, etc) already on your phone, will it still be possible to use it after the upgrade?? And.. will the ChevronWP7 unlock survive the upgrade if you have to "prevent relock tweak" applied??
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Yes I know. Thats what I wonder as well. Since we could use OEM apps added trough the marketplace. So upgrading with these apps in place might work. Ill also make a few zune backups so I can roll back just in case.
If roottools still works we might be able to set the prevent relock again. Im wondering about the sideload limit, because thats the most annoying thing for me. 3 is not much to sideload and I like to keep the apps Im developing on my phone to test them on the road.
Well Im trying not to get my hopes up for Mango anytime soon, but if its for students also Ill give it a shot. And I can maybe PM you before, if you can think of some things you want me to test out for you.
I generally don't care so much about not being able to:
1. transfer sms and contacts TO sim
2. sync doc, txt, and pdf files, offline, through Zune
3. sync flac or divx files
4. make an offline backup of contacts or of the whole phone configuration
5. create new accent colors
6. toggle wifi/gps/3g data/bluetooth with a single tap from the home screen
7. dictate sms or other speech orders in my native language
etc...
All of the above limitations (and some more) can be tolerable at some degree because of WP7 general superiority in other levels.
BUT...
I'm really pissed off with Microsoft...They have totally abandoned open market phones...First, we had a major error with Mango for LG update, that forced some people to flash a new official rom in order to get it. I never got a tethering update for my open LG and now I don't even get the latest official 7740 update. I don't f$%^ care about carriers. I bought an officially OPEN device and I demand support, or else they can stop selling us illusions...
Muvolt said:
I generally don't care so much about not being able to:
1. transfer sms and contacts TO sim
2. sync doc, txt, and pdf files, offline, through Zune
3. sync flac or divx files
4. make an offline backup of contacts or of the whole phone configuration
5. create new accent colors
6. toggle wifi/gps/3g data/bluetooth with a single tap from the home screen
7. dictate sms or other speech orders in my native language
etc...
All of the above limitations (and some more) can be tolerable at some degree because of WP7 general superiority in other levels.
BUT...
I'm really pissed off with Microsoft...They have totally abandoned open market phones...First, we had a major error with Mango for LG update, that forced some people to flash a new official rom in order to get it. I never got a tethering update for my open LG and now I don't even get the latest official 7740 update. I don't f$%^ care about carriers. I bought an officially OPEN device and I demand support, or else they can stop selling us illusions...
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Blame your OEM, not Microsoft for not getting tethering. They are the ones delivering the proper drivers needed for tethering to be enabled. The feature is already built in in Mango. Concerning 7740 you're right. But it has been released when? Yesterday? No update so far has reached all users at the same time. It has always taken a few weeks until every single Windows Phone user out there received an update. Knowing that 7740 won't change much, I personally do not really care about when I will receive it.
So far I didn´t get the latest 7740 update either, but I installed it manually with cab sender.
The official 7740 update you can download here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1306415
contable said:
So far I didn´t get the latest 7740 update either, but I installed it manually with cab sender.
The official 7740 update you can download here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1306415
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It doesn't fix the keyboard disappearing issue, so it's pretty much useless. This is by far the biggest annoyance for me right now. Keyboard disappears 10+ times when i'm typing a SMS. And in some apps you can't bring back the keyboard by touching the input box. I have to copy/paste and try again.
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Blame your OEM, not Microsoft for not getting tethering. They are the ones delivering the proper drivers needed for tethering to be enabled. The feature is already built in in Mango. Concerning 7740 you're right. But it has been released when? Yesterday? No update so far has reached all users at the same time. It has always taken a few weeks until every single Windows Phone user out there received an update. Knowing that 7740 won't change much, I personally do not really care about when I will receive it.
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You are right here, but this wouldn't have happened if Microsoft had put strict rules around its ecosystem. It's unacceptable for such a unified quality concept to have basic specs like tethering, managed almost randomly (at will) by the OEMs without Microsoft's supervision. LG has released the firmware for branded phones (so, there is no arguing here that they couldn't have released it because of hardware restrictions) and totally rejected all of those people who have open phones. WHO controls this type of marketing anarchy around one of the most innovative, popular products of the world?
I'm shocked by this management attitude, because I'm a Microsoft customer for over 18 years and I know very well that they are aces in product support. As I mentioned earlier, ιn my first post, this is not the only fault Ι've been through and I'm looking forward to see this company measuring its actions with responsibility and care but, right now I'm totally disappointed.
contable said:
So far I didn´t get the latest 7740 update either, but I installed it manually with cab sender.
The official 7740 update you can download here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1306415
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is cab sender only for htc? says I need zune wmdu 4.8.2134
contable said:
So far I didn´t get the latest 7740 update either, but I installed it manually with cab sender.
The official 7740 update you can download here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1306415
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Thanks a lot for this info!
2 threads about the same thing....?
Bla Bla Bla... Close thread, waste of space.
norgan said:
Bla Bla Bla... Close thread, waste of space.
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It's a general WP7 discussion place and you should be more polite sir.
Dr.8820 said:
2 threads about the same thing....?
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I have made one in the specific LG e900 forum as well, because I use an open LG device, so, the discussion exists in two places to be seen by people who have as well as those who don't have an LG device, but they do have an open device with similar problems.
Muvolt said:
I have made one in the specific LG e900 forum as well, because I use an open LG device, so, the discussion exists in two places to be seen by people who have as well as those who don't have an LG device, but they do have an open device with similar problems.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1352887
That would be post number three then... Sometimes i dont understand why there is all this hate on this board. Isnt this supposed to be where people come together to innovate and find new ways to use their devices? Not to complain about what they have without contributing anything...
I was referring to this thread, about 10 down from this one...but carry on, I thought it was groundhog's day.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1352887
contable said:
So far I didn´t get the latest 7740 update either, but I installed it manually with cab sender.
The official 7740 update you can download here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1306415
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Can you help me with this? I tried the instructions carefully but it doesn't work says No Update files
The problem? No money because wp not selling so no updates.... microsoft dont work for free....
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i don't understand this thread. is there any actual evidence that they're abandoning open market phones?
Hi guys,
probably it's not a proper forum, and my post is offtopic, but it's a most reliable forum on xda-dev for this post, other forums are simple dead
For the "rara avis", developers who still do something on Win10 platform, I'd like to share my personal experience to publish an app with restricted capabilities (desktop bridge) on Microsoft store. Might be, someone will find this useful (I hope so!).
So:
- on March, 29 I created a "desktop bridge" app from already existing app and started submission. Of course, package submission failed, and I issued a "desktop bridge permission request".
- next day, March 30, I received automated confirmation.
- on April, 10, I've got mail from Windows App Consult with request to fill some form(s) in Word document format, zip it with my app (.appx or .appxbundle) and share with Microsoft team.
- two weeks later, on April, 24, I've got another mail (quoting):
Hello, we have completed the testing of your desktop application. Congratulations, your application is compliant and, as such, your developer account has now been unlocked! Please allow 24-48 business hours for the permissions to propagate, then you’ll be able to start the submission process on the Dev Center’s website.
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- and, after two days (48 hours, not an hour or minute sooner ), my app was published and become available on the next day(s) or so
Here we go: the very first console app published in the Microsoft Store (if it's not please let me know). App is completely free and open source; I set $0.99 price just in case if someone wanna donate a bottle of good beer to me ($1 isn't enough of course but it's OK). App "trial" isn't different from paid; and of course you can download it directly from the github, or build by yourself.
The main purpose of this experiment was to check an ability to the regular, third party developer, to publish an app with restricted access via MS store, and, I can say, it works as promised...
P.S. Oh, I forgot to say: please download the app, use it (if you really need it) and rate up to five stars, please!