As the title suggests... i have a student developer account with APP HUB, can I update PREVIEW mango version (released/releasing these few days) with my phone still?
As i know, currently its the "paid" developers that have access to Preview mango update.
Let me know~ really hoping this works!!
i want to know too please
toothfish said:
As the title suggests... i have a student developer account with APP HUB, can I update PREVIEW mango version (released/releasing these few days) with my phone still?
As i know, currently its the "paid" developers that have access to Preview mango update.
Let me know~ really hoping this works!!
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Student App Hub accounts are identical to normal App Hub accounts.
nop they are not, they are similair but different.
I dont think the beta is coming as soon as they said
https://twitter.com/#!/BrandonWatson/status/83158862823297025
Rats...... but thanks for the update~
The update is indeed for paid and registered mango beta testers. So you do not only have to have a paid account, but you also need to be registered for beta testing Mango.
Further more, if you are such developer and you upgrade to Mango, be aware that there are new limitations to sideloading! Many homebrew tools and OEM tools won't be possible to sideload anymore.
When the moment is there that the update is available (not tomorrow), and you do decide to upgrade, I really want to ask everyone to capture the traffic during the update-process with Wireshark. If we have as much captures as possible, we can possibly create our own updater, like Chris Walsh did with NoDo. But we do need as much captures as possible to see which phones get which rom-packages. We should avoid half updates like in the original tool from Chris Walsh.
If you have a capture of the update, please post here.
Thanks,
Heathcliff74
Heathcliff74 said:
The update is indeed for paid and registered mango beta testers. So you do not only have to have a paid account, but you also need to be registered for beta testing Mango.
Further more, if you are such developer and you upgrade to Mango, be aware that there are new limitations to sideloading! Many homebrew tools and OEM tools won't be possible to sideload anymore.
When the moment is there that the update is available (not tomorrow), and you do decide to upgrade, I really want to ask everyone to capture the traffic during the update-process with Wireshark. If we have as much captures as possible, we can possibly create our own updater, like Chris Walsh did with NoDo. But we do need as much captures as possible to see which phones get which rom-packages. We should avoid half updates like in the original tool from Chris Walsh.
If you have a capture of the update, please post here.
Thanks,
Heathcliff74
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Any How to for capturing the traffic, I'm sure tons of people would like to participate if it was easy. Just start Wireshark and upload the log and that's it?
Yeah man, I'm willing to give this a shot when the update comes out, more than willing for the community... jejeje
I would like to know how to do this. I can post whatever comes out... I have an Arrive... We shall see... jejeje
Sent from my []D[][]V[][]D ARRIVE using Board Express
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The update is indeed for paid and registered mango beta testers. So you do not only have to have a paid account, but you also need to be registered for beta testing Mango.
Further more, if you are such developer and you upgrade to Mango, be aware that there are new limitations to sideloading! Many homebrew tools and OEM tools won't be possible to sideload anymore.
When the moment is there that the update is available (not tomorrow), and you do decide to upgrade, I really want to ask everyone to capture the traffic during the update-process with Wireshark. If we have as much captures as possible, we can possibly create our own updater, like Chris Walsh did with NoDo. But we do need as much captures as possible to see which phones get which rom-packages. We should avoid half updates like in the original tool from Chris Walsh.
If you have a capture of the update, please post here.
Thanks,
Heathcliff74
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ok,i'm with an apphub account(student) so the mango update for developers will be available on the dowload section directly on apphub(like the mango SDK 7.1) or i have to register my device ID to my account?
i couldn't myself,it's microsoft to register my device ID to my apphub account it is?
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When the moment is there that the update is available (not tomorrow), and you do decide to upgrade, I really want to ask everyone to capture the traffic during the update-process with Wireshark. If we have as much captures as possible, we can possibly create our own updater, like Chris Walsh did with NoDo. But we do need as much captures as possible to see which phones get which rom-packages. We should avoid half updates like in the original tool from Chris Walsh.
If you have a capture of the update, please post here.
Thanks,
Heathcliff74
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I think they'll do something similar to the XBox Dashboard Previews, meaning that ultimately you'll be able to install mango preview on any device, but they'll enable Windows Live sign-in only for registered devices, server side.
Unfortunately Microsoft has always been *****y about these preview things.
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Any How to for capturing the traffic, I'm sure tons of people would like to participate if it was easy. Just start Wireshark and upload the log and that's it?
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I'm no expert in Wireshark. I know how to use it for my own purposes. So this is what I would do, but if someone else has additional suggestions, feel free to help. The updates are over standard http, not https, so that makes it easier.
- Connect your phone to your computer and wait for Zune to be ready with sync.
- Download and start Wireshark.
- Select the network-interface you want to log (to be sure keep only one network-interface enabled, just to be sure you'll capture the correct interface).
- To be sure you capture the traffic from the phone too, go to menu Edit / Preferences. Select User Interface / Capture. And enable option Capture packets in Promiscuous Mode.
- To filter all unwanted data type this in the Filter textbox: http && !tcp.analysis.out_of_order && !tcp.analysis.retransmission
- Start update with Zune.
- When the update is ready, stop the capture and save it to a file.
To test if this works, do the above and use Internet Explorer on your phone. You should see the traffic in Wireshark.
hd2leo_fusion said:
ok,i'm with an apphub account(student) so the mango update for developers will be available on the dowload section directly on apphub(like the mango SDK 7.1) or i have to register my device ID to my account?
i couldn't myself,it's microsoft to register my device ID to my apphub account it is?
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I clearly said it was for paid and registered developers. Have you paid for your student account? Guess not. So unfortunately this beta is not going available for you. Even if you would register as a beta-tester. I wouldn't know how to do that anyway, because I haven't done that.
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I clearly said it was for paid and registered developers. Have you paid for your student account? Guess not. So unfortunately this beta is not going available for you. Even if you would register as a beta-tester. I wouldn't know how to do that anyway, because I haven't done that.
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Thats interesting... May I ask where you have that information from? I could not find anything on the create.msdn.com (app hub) forums about it. Was it in the news section somewhere?
Quite odd they wont give it to students.
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Thats interesting... May I ask where you have that information from? I could not find anything on the create.msdn.com (app hub) forums about it. Was it in the news section somewhere?
Quite odd they wont give it to students.
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Many sources:
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Ciao,
Heathcliff74
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Many sources:
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Yes read those, it does not specifically says student accounts wont get it. Brandon watson also tweeted "@arnehelseth Every developer matters. Every. Single. One. Deep breath everyone". Don't know if this means something and is in the right context or not.
The articles just say it will be released to developer unlocked apphub account, which you can normally get by paying 99$ (they dont speak about student unlocks in particular).
"Neowin has received multiple independent tips that the beta will be made available for all devices through the MSDN Create hub for those with developer accounts, on June 22/23, with Microsoft set to make the announcement sometime during the next 24 hours. The beta will not be restricted to "favorite" developers but will be generally available to anyone with a paid subscription, and will be able to be loaded on any of the production devices."
Yes it indicates paid subscription, however does not really rule out student subscriptions since they are pretty much equal to MS. I dont know if we have to take these words literally or if its quickly written.
"The software giant will also offer beta bits for developers to load directly onto their devices, reports Neowin. Mango ROMs will be made available to existing Windows Phone developers via Microsoft’s App Hub development program. Access to the developer program is charged at $99 per year."
Students have free access to the App Hub development program.
I could not find where you need to sign up for the beta, have not read a mention about this. I could not find it in these sources.
You are probably right though that its only for paid subscriptions, since its easier to check who is a ginuine dev. I just wondered since I have not seen a clear "No to student account" post so I was not really sure about what to believe. Thank you for the clearification.
All sources I read stated that you need to have a paid registration. So it does not say 'no students' but students don't pay, so I guess that rules it out.
About the registered Mango beta tester, I don't see it right now, but I'm sure I've read that.
Anyway, we'll wait and see. Speculating now is not of much use.
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All sources I read stated that you need to have a paid registration. So it does not say 'no students' but students don't pay, so I guess that rules it out.
About the registered Mango beta tester, I don't see it right now, but I'm sure I've read that.
Anyway, we'll wait and see. Speculating now is not of much use.
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True, and they can always make a change of heart. Thanks we will see. If students get it, ill try and log the process with wireshark.
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True, and they can always make a change of heart. Thanks we will see. If students get it, ill try and log the process with wireshark.
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Ok. That would be cool. But I have to stress again: If you upgrade to Mango, be aware that there are new limitations to sideloading! Many homebrew tools and OEM tools won't be possible to sideload anymore. So if that is a problem for you, then you shouldn't upgrade. What would be interesting to know is, if you have such software that uses native code (like WP7 Root Tools, TouchXplorer, Screencam, etc) already on your phone, will it still be possible to use it after the upgrade?? And.. will the ChevronWP7 unlock survive the upgrade if you have to "prevent relock tweak" applied??
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Ok. That would be cool. But I have to stress again: If you upgrade to Mango, be aware that there are new limitations to sideloading! Many homebrew tools and OEM tools won't be possible to sideload anymore. So if that is a problem for you, then you shouldn't upgrade. What would be interesting to know is, if you have such software that uses native code (like WP7 Root Tools, TouchXplorer, Screencam, etc) already on your phone, will it still be possible to use it after the upgrade?? And.. will the ChevronWP7 unlock survive the upgrade if you have to "prevent relock tweak" applied??
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Yes I know. Thats what I wonder as well. Since we could use OEM apps added trough the marketplace. So upgrading with these apps in place might work. Ill also make a few zune backups so I can roll back just in case.
If roottools still works we might be able to set the prevent relock again. Im wondering about the sideload limit, because thats the most annoying thing for me. 3 is not much to sideload and I like to keep the apps Im developing on my phone to test them on the road.
Well Im trying not to get my hopes up for Mango anytime soon, but if its for students also Ill give it a shot. And I can maybe PM you before, if you can think of some things you want me to test out for you.
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Let me give some background. I know the very basics of hacking. That's it, not much more. I know how to root Android phones, install homebrew on WebOS, and I have tweaked Blackberry software, installed new os', just basic stuff like that. I have never built an app but I want to learn how to develop applications for Windows Phone 7 as this will be my next phone. Any advice? I went to the site and they have the tools there, I was just looking for any pre-reading I should do, or any advice from those already doing it.
Thanks
Download the free developer tools and play. Expression Blend is pretty easy and made for more visually-oriented people vs. hardcore coders.
The catch is that you can't deploy your apps onto your phone without a developers account.
But fi you're a student you might be able to claim a Student account from Dreamspark.
Sir. Haxalot said:
The catch is that you can't deploy your apps onto your phone without a developers account.
But fi you're a student you might be able to claim a Student account from Dreamspark.
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Just watch the Dreamspark method as you don't seem to be able to register a device until you have your identity verified which, for students, doesn't happen until you submit an application for certification. I am still waiting to hear back from MS on that and if there is a way round it. It means you cannot test your application on a real device until after you have submitted it for certification which seems rather odd.
The tools themselves are very good it is very easy to produce a good looking functional application. There is quite a bit on http://create.msdn.com/ to get you started.
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Just watch the Dreamspark method as you don't seem to be able to register a device until you have your identity verified which, for students, doesn't happen until you submit an application for certification. I am still waiting to hear back from MS on that and if there is a way round it. It means you cannot test your application on a real device until after you have submitted it for certification which seems rather odd.
The tools themselves are very good it is very easy to produce a good looking functional application. There is quite a bit on http://create.msdn.com/ to get you started.
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Thanks for the Dreamspark tip! I just got verified and DLd the software.
Hopefully this developer account will come in handy.
Might want to check out this site too: http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/beginner/dd435692.aspx It'll help you get through the basics of programming that you'll need to know
why not
i can give you i got an account
pm me if you need
Free WP7 eBook
If you have some time to read the excellent Charles Petzold 's ebook...
Programming Windows Phone 7 which comes with Sample Code.
http://windowsphone7central.com/articles/windows_phone_device_manager_a_new_jailbreak_coming_soon_for_wp7-01-21-11
Great News hehe !
With ChevronWP7 hitting the end of its working life next month, we have some good news to report on. Julien Schapman, the creator of TouchXperience and recently the WP7 Registry Editor, has released details about an upcoming project, titled Windows Phone Device Manager. Most likely inspired by Windows Mobile's infamous device manager, the tool allows you to manage your sideload your applications, explore the device, sync with Zune, and display information about the device.
Even better, the tool will automatically developer unlock your device upon connecting, which removes the need for any ChevronWP7 hassle. The tool is set to release in the next few days, and is compatible with all Windows Phone 7 devices. The developer of it also states that if it becomes possible, he might create an open marketplace, similar to Cydia on iOS devices.
How the tool works is not clear, but fortunately the unlocking method it uses will continue to work even after the next update. Read more at TouchXperience.
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This is old news? That article is based on what the developer posted on his website on Jan 10th. The program was supposed to be released last week but he has not released it yet because he wants to make sure the unlock will work after the update. So no guarantees yet.
Sounds promising though!
And how would he know it continues to unlock after the upgrade I wonder? Geez, talk about hitting your own drum.
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And how would he know it continues to unlock after the upgrade I wonder? Geez, talk about hitting your own drum.
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Maybe like a lot of people on xda, he secretly works for Microsoft.
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Maybe like a lot of people on xda, he secretly works for Microsoft.
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hehe this could be ;D
hope this unlocker works for my hd2 :/
can´t jailbreak on my windows 7 ...
I read somewhere that it, too, uses a fake certification server. If that is true it will most likely NOT work. It's just to simple to fix this for MS.
But the software itself is pretty cool, too. And as long as no one has got an update on his/her device, we can't state whether it works or not. But the idea of an open Marketplace on WP7 is pretty cool. IMHO, Developing for/Hacking WP7 goes a lot faster than I've expected!
Please keep discussion and speculation threads in WP7 General!
~~Tito~~
(Closing thread)
Guys,
There's a new tool comin' close on the horizon - Windows Phone Device Manager, applicable to all WP7 devices. So instead of trying in vain to use chevy, that could possibly harm yr machines, why not simply wait for the tool and help developer Julien Schapman (Schaps at XDA) and his beta team in some way.
Here are some links:
http://twitter.com/touchxperience
http://www.facebook.com/touchxperience/posts/10150105783642342
Regards
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Guys,
There's a new tool comin' close on the horizon - Windows Phone Device Manager, applicable to all WP7 devices. So instead of trying in vain to use chevy, that could possibly harm yr machines, why not simply wait for the tool and help developer Julien Schapman (Schaps at XDA) and his beta team in some way.
Here are some links:
http://twitter.com/touchxperience
http://www.facebook.com/touchxperience/posts/10150105783642342
Regards
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Old News... we've known about TouckXperience for a while now.
could 15 minutes save you 15% on car insurance? have you been living under a rock?
yes....old news
this apps will be avaliable after first update from MS
it will actually be released before the update.
Because I was bored getting hundreds of emails from people asking me to send them WP Device Manager so they can continue to use pirated applications, and because there will be a short term solution for homebrews, I decided not to include my jailbreak tool. I respect other developers and I don’t want to be responsible for piracy, I’ve been contacted by Brandon Watson from Microsoft and I wish to be involved in the official homebrew support on Windows Phone.
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this is from shaps his website.
ceesheim said:
Because I was bored getting hundreds of emails from people asking me to send them WP Device Manager so they can continue to use pirated applications, and because there will be a short term solution for homebrews, I decided not to include my jailbreak tool. I respect other developers and I don’t want to be responsible for piracy, I’ve been contacted by Brandon Watson from Microsoft and I wish to be involved in the official homebrew support on Windows Phone.
this is from shaps his website.
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And Schaps comes through with the vaporware again!! Honestly, I don't think he even does half the stuff he promises. Kinda like a mobile app politician.
Thats good news for us, yup. But schap mentioned that jailbreak tool will not be included and I wonder when NoDo comes, and with no jailbreak, how can I use schap's wp device manager?...
hoaisonongame said:
Thats good news for us, yup. But schap mentioned that jailbreak tool will not be included and I wonder when NoDo comes, and with no jailbreak, how can I use schap's wp device manager?...
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I asked a very similar questiom on Schap's Forum, but got no response. I can only assume that he has found a way to deploy homebrew apps without using the Developer's Tool Hack, such as Chevron. I do believe that he stated this would work after NoDo. I coukd be wrong because I can't find the quote.
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And Schaps comes through with the vaporware again!! Honestly, I don't think he even does half the stuff he promises. Kinda like a mobile app politician.
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I don't think it would be just app deployment cuz you could modify tiles, icons, wi-fi&BT settings, registry and etc and also exchange all kinds of files incl. office between PC and phone.
Besides I fear that as soon as so much expected nodo update goes public chevy will become no-go
chevy is no go
but is chevy a jailbreak or a sideload unlocker? Developers are working on a bonafide jailbreak that gives us really nice admin access...let's allow some of them to work their magic
as far as txp goes, we'll see I'm a beta so if I get a magical email about this, I'll post a story on it...
thanxxxxxx
domineus said:
chevy is no go
but is chevy a jailbreak or a sideload unlocker? Developers are working on a bonafide jailbreak that gives us really nice admin access...let's allow some of them to work their magic
as far as txp goes, we'll see I'm a beta so if I get a magical email about this, I'll post a story on it...
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Bless devs... Shall wait for THAT story
"WP Device Manager beta is almost ready but I will probably need the whole night to finalize it, so I will release WP Device Manager and TouchXperience tomorrow."
Published at Facebook by Julien Schapman on Feb 21, 2011
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"WP Device Manager beta is almost ready but I will probably need the whole night to finalize it, so I will release WP Device Manager and TouchXperience tomorrow."
Published at Facebook by Julien Schapman on Feb 21, 2011
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It's gonna be great. Right now, I'm crossing my fingers
Because I was bored getting hundreds of emails from people asking me to send them WP Device Manager so they can continue to use pirated applications, and because there will be a short term solution for homebrews, I decided not to include my jailbreak tool. I respect other developers and I don’t want to be responsible for piracy, I’ve been contacted by Brandon Watson from Microsoft and I wish to be involved in the official homebrew support on Windows Phone.
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Just found that on http://www.touchxperience.com/. So there will be no unlock tool after the first Update?
DominikZ said:
Just found that on http://www.touchxperience.com/. So there will be no unlock tool after the first Update?
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What date? Did you read latest news? And how do you imagine for example reg tweaks being applied w/o administrative right to the OS, i.e jailbreaking? So keep cool and wait.
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What date? Did you read latest news?
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News are from Monday, 07 February 2011 12:31
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And how do you imagine for example reg tweaks being applied w/o administrative right to the OS, i.e jailbreaking?
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Well that's what I was thinking too. Maybe there is another way? F.e. the hacks get applied, but the phone still stays locked ??
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That's what I'm gonna do AFAIK the release date is tomorrow?
Any news on the release? I heard that the beta is out! http://wmpoweruser.com/touchxperience-and-windows-phone-device-center-beta-release/#more-28834
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Any news on the release? I heard that the beta is out! http://wmpoweruser.com/touchxperience-and-windows-phone-device-center-beta-release/#more-28834
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It's just for his beta tester, we must wait... until??... I dont have a glue
Ok, this may sound a little stupid but please bear with me....
I'm a student, so I have a ".edu" email address which allowed me to sign up for a free dev account.
Although I'm on a Mac I'm downloading parallels desktop so I can get zune software.
From what I understood from reading these forums...I can use the dev tools and unlock my device with Zune?
Is this essentially the same as using Chevron unlocker?
I can't use Chevron Unlocker because I have a HTC Arrive that has the NoDo update already applied...but if I use the above methods, it would be the same...no?
Yes, as far as I am aware.
I am also a student in the uk with an .ac.uk email
I have signed up and my account is started being activated today, will let you know! I am on NoDo too
I also have a .edu account, so this means I can sign up as a developer and get the official unlock code? Would I actually have to do any developing for them to keep my account open?
I don't have NoDo yet but will want to unlock it once it's available (AT&T branded Focus).
This would be interesting because it say's I can have up to 3 registered devices under my Dev Account.
I personally just created it so I could unlock my NoDo Arrive, but I might actually try at creating some apps...I wonder if it's really that hard
its a little more complicated than what it first seems, but nothing too hard.
Sign up through dreamspark, that gets you your account.
To dev unlock the phone you use the windows phone tools that you get through dreamspark, but it wont let you unlock it untill you have activated your developer account through geotrust
To do this on a student account you have to submit and application to microsoft first. I just created a basic dice roller, there are guides on the internet for how to make this app, it only took me two hours to do using the guide, and 1 day after submitting the app to microsoft I got an email from geotrust asking me to validate my account.
To validate you need to fill in the form with a photocopy of your driver licence or passport and email/fax it to them, they then tell microsoft all is good, and your account is activated
But yeh, if your a student, then its definetly worth doing, because you will effectively be "jailbroken" but in a completely legit microsoft are happy way.
The major problem with an actual developer unlock, is there is a limit on the number of applications you can side-load at the same time - 3 for student accounts, 10 for individual/corporate accounts, if I remember correctly. Makes it difficult to use them for homebrew - I know I had more than 10 homebrew applications together.
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its a little more complicated than what it first seems, but nothing too hard.
Sign up through dreamspark, that gets you your account.
To dev unlock the phone you use the windows phone tools that you get through dreamspark, but it wont let you unlock it untill you have activated your developer account through geotrust
To do this on a student account you have to submit and application to microsoft first. I just created a basic dice roller, there are guides on the internet for how to make this app, it only took me two hours to do using the guide, and 1 day after submitting the app to microsoft I got an email from geotrust asking me to validate my account.
To validate you need to fill in the form with a photocopy of your driver licence or passport and email/fax it to them, they then tell microsoft all is good, and your account is activated
But yeh, if your a student, then its definetly worth doing, because you will effectively be "jailbroken" but in a completely legit microsoft are happy way.
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So if we have a student developer account we have to create an app first? Exactly what guide did you use?
I have "ZERO" coding experience, even though I do dabble in web development...is it hard to do? I'm not asking someone to hold my hand, just point me in the general direction.
Isn't there a "hack" available on these forums that allows you to "sideload" more than the limits?
I mean essentially a person could use the free Dev Account to unlock their device, then use the registry hack (available on these forums) to allow more than the limit for sideloading....
...or am I missing something?
Yup there is a hack somewhere, I might give it ago, but TBH, im happy to install the reg editor do the edits and unistall it, then do the same for ringtones and unistall it and so on, and just keep 3 that I really need.
After a bit of googling, it seems it might be even simpler...
You still need to have the Dev tools download from dreamspark, but someone posted that all you need to do is this...
Create a new project.
Build the project.
Look in the bin directory that was created.
Find the .xap.
Then submit that
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Yup there is a hack somewhere, I might give it ago, but TBH, im happy to install the reg editor do the edits and unistall it, then do the same for ringtones and unistall it and so on, and just keep 3 that I really need.
After a bit of googling, it seems it might be even simpler...
You still need to have the Dev tools download from dreamspark, but someone posted that all you need to do is this...
Create a new project.
Build the project.
Look in the bin directory that was created.
Find the .xap.
Then submit that
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So even though it's a "shell" app (empty app) and it would get rejected by AppHub...all that really matters is that you submit something for GeoTrust to send you the verification email???
I'm interested in this aswell. I've just updated to nodo.
I'm currently studying computer science at uni and tempted to do a WP7 app for my final year or in my spare time.
Developer Unlock is the same thing as what Chevron does.
For students that are interested, Microsoft provides the Dreamspark program where they give students access to free software, development tools and WP7 developer registration
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So even though it's a "shell" app (empty app) and it would get rejected by AppHub...all that really matters is that you submit something for GeoTrust to send you the verification email???
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Exactly. That's all you need. Once you submit it you'll just get an email from "GeoTrust" (Hotmail marked it as spam), and then you'll be on your way.
If you like in a country were Marketplace isn't available yet it complicates things a bit.
Even if you get a student account tied to your swedish live-account(like I did) you can't access the Marketplace. But you can still submit apps and get them published with that account!
The only solution here is to get a UK/USA live-account and then jailbreak your phone.
So when NoDo gets released I have to choose between running my own apps or run apps from the Marketplace.
The live account on your phone, doesnt have to match the live account of your developer account as far as I am aware.
My phone is now Dev unlocked and on No-Do.
If you install advance config,it can make it so you can sideload as many apps as you want
Do you think there should be a tut for doing this?
I was thinking of creating one because, as of now, this is the only option to "unlock" our devices.
Ok...I have everything installed but when I "build" the app and submit it to Apphub, it just gives me an exception out of range error...
Any insight?
ducylowycz said:
Do you think there should be a tut for doing this?
I was thinking of creating one because, as of now, this is the only option to "unlock" our devices.
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It's pretty simple - register your student email with dreamspark
submit an app (doesn't even have to work) to get geotrust to start the identity process
when you verify your identity wait 2 business day
You now have the option to have 3 devices that can be unlocked
For the respective device, go and edit the registry to increase the app loading limit to unlimited (student has I think 3) and you're done
Legit chevron. unlocked device for sideloading. I'll be getting my brother to do it for his phone as well as his school too! Although I can see an impending rape of this...
It's also pretty profitable...
my country is not in the list box, singapore is the closest one, im from indonesia, any suggestion?
domineus said:
It's pretty simple - register your student email with dreamspark
submit an app (doesn't even have to work) to get geotrust to start the identity process
when you verify your identity wait 2 business day
You now have the option to have 3 devices that can be unlocked
For the respective device, go and edit the registry to increase the app loading limit to unlimited (student has I think 3) and you're done
Legit chevron. unlocked device for sideloading. I'll be getting my brother to do it for his phone as well as his school too! Although I can see an impending rape of this...
It's also pretty profitable...
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I just spent 2 hours to figure out the tools and built a quote of the day app. Just submitted it. Will wait for Geotrust to contact me.
Well although many might abuse it, it will expose students to the platform. MS has really good tools. I am not a computer major, but I managed to build an app in 2 hours. I am quite exited about my app..and I will definitely read more about the tools and try few more things.
PS: now I need to buy a windows phone device :-D
I generally don't care so much about not being able to:
1. transfer sms and contacts TO sim
2. sync doc, txt, and pdf files, offline, through Zune
3. sync flac or divx files
4. make an offline backup of contacts or of the whole phone configuration
5. create new accent colors
6. toggle wifi/gps/3g data/bluetooth with a single tap from the home screen
7. dictate sms or other speech orders in my native language
etc...
All of the above limitations (and some more) can be tolerable at some degree because of WP7 general superiority in other levels.
BUT...
I'm really pissed off with Microsoft...They have totally abandoned open market phones...First, we had a major error with Mango for LG update, that forced some people to flash a new official rom in order to get it. I never got a tethering update for my open LG and now I don't even get the latest official 7740 update. I don't f$%^ care about carriers. I bought an officially OPEN device and I demand support, or else they can stop selling us illusions...
Muvolt said:
I generally don't care so much about not being able to:
1. transfer sms and contacts TO sim
2. sync doc, txt, and pdf files, offline, through Zune
3. sync flac or divx files
4. make an offline backup of contacts or of the whole phone configuration
5. create new accent colors
6. toggle wifi/gps/3g data/bluetooth with a single tap from the home screen
7. dictate sms or other speech orders in my native language
etc...
All of the above limitations (and some more) can be tolerable at some degree because of WP7 general superiority in other levels.
BUT...
I'm really pissed off with Microsoft...They have totally abandoned open market phones...First, we had a major error with Mango for LG update, that forced some people to flash a new official rom in order to get it. I never got a tethering update for my open LG and now I don't even get the latest official 7740 update. I don't f$%^ care about carriers. I bought an officially OPEN device and I demand support, or else they can stop selling us illusions...
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Blame your OEM, not Microsoft for not getting tethering. They are the ones delivering the proper drivers needed for tethering to be enabled. The feature is already built in in Mango. Concerning 7740 you're right. But it has been released when? Yesterday? No update so far has reached all users at the same time. It has always taken a few weeks until every single Windows Phone user out there received an update. Knowing that 7740 won't change much, I personally do not really care about when I will receive it.
So far I didn´t get the latest 7740 update either, but I installed it manually with cab sender.
The official 7740 update you can download here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1306415
contable said:
So far I didn´t get the latest 7740 update either, but I installed it manually with cab sender.
The official 7740 update you can download here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1306415
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It doesn't fix the keyboard disappearing issue, so it's pretty much useless. This is by far the biggest annoyance for me right now. Keyboard disappears 10+ times when i'm typing a SMS. And in some apps you can't bring back the keyboard by touching the input box. I have to copy/paste and try again.
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Blame your OEM, not Microsoft for not getting tethering. They are the ones delivering the proper drivers needed for tethering to be enabled. The feature is already built in in Mango. Concerning 7740 you're right. But it has been released when? Yesterday? No update so far has reached all users at the same time. It has always taken a few weeks until every single Windows Phone user out there received an update. Knowing that 7740 won't change much, I personally do not really care about when I will receive it.
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You are right here, but this wouldn't have happened if Microsoft had put strict rules around its ecosystem. It's unacceptable for such a unified quality concept to have basic specs like tethering, managed almost randomly (at will) by the OEMs without Microsoft's supervision. LG has released the firmware for branded phones (so, there is no arguing here that they couldn't have released it because of hardware restrictions) and totally rejected all of those people who have open phones. WHO controls this type of marketing anarchy around one of the most innovative, popular products of the world?
I'm shocked by this management attitude, because I'm a Microsoft customer for over 18 years and I know very well that they are aces in product support. As I mentioned earlier, ιn my first post, this is not the only fault Ι've been through and I'm looking forward to see this company measuring its actions with responsibility and care but, right now I'm totally disappointed.
contable said:
So far I didn´t get the latest 7740 update either, but I installed it manually with cab sender.
The official 7740 update you can download here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1306415
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is cab sender only for htc? says I need zune wmdu 4.8.2134
contable said:
So far I didn´t get the latest 7740 update either, but I installed it manually with cab sender.
The official 7740 update you can download here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1306415
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Thanks a lot for this info!
2 threads about the same thing....?
Bla Bla Bla... Close thread, waste of space.
norgan said:
Bla Bla Bla... Close thread, waste of space.
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It's a general WP7 discussion place and you should be more polite sir.
Dr.8820 said:
2 threads about the same thing....?
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I have made one in the specific LG e900 forum as well, because I use an open LG device, so, the discussion exists in two places to be seen by people who have as well as those who don't have an LG device, but they do have an open device with similar problems.
Muvolt said:
I have made one in the specific LG e900 forum as well, because I use an open LG device, so, the discussion exists in two places to be seen by people who have as well as those who don't have an LG device, but they do have an open device with similar problems.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1352887
That would be post number three then... Sometimes i dont understand why there is all this hate on this board. Isnt this supposed to be where people come together to innovate and find new ways to use their devices? Not to complain about what they have without contributing anything...
I was referring to this thread, about 10 down from this one...but carry on, I thought it was groundhog's day.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1352887
contable said:
So far I didn´t get the latest 7740 update either, but I installed it manually with cab sender.
The official 7740 update you can download here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1306415
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Can you help me with this? I tried the instructions carefully but it doesn't work says No Update files
The problem? No money because wp not selling so no updates.... microsoft dont work for free....
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i don't understand this thread. is there any actual evidence that they're abandoning open market phones?