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[Q] Will manually deployed XAP's get update from the Windows Marketplace?

I've read some other threads (namely http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=908293, which is the Windows Phone Marketplace for Windows PC realeas thread), and I have the following question:
Since we can manually deploy apps with several tools (WP Marketplace for PC, Tom's XAP Deployer, etc.) will those apps become automatically updated (or rather, would we be notified to update them) through the actual Windows Marketplace?
The reason I ask is because I'm just about to get a Samsung Focus, and in preparation, I've downed Chevron tool, registry hacks, TCP view, and all the free XAP apps I want, so that I can just plug my phone in and get mostly everything done at once. However, I'd rather take my time and download the free apps through the actual marketplace if theyre not gonna update automatically. Hopefully no one has answered this question in other forums, cause I've been searching for a while. Hopefully this isn't too nooby of a post. Thank you for your help.

No. No. And No.

yes yes and yes

hmm.. thanks for the answers guys

It give a notification on marketplace, an update can be download but got an error when installing
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So I can't download the update, but it will tell me that its outdated?

VenezuelaDan said:
So I can't download the update, but it will tell me that its outdated?
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that is exactly what will happen
ps: you can download it to , but when it will try to update it will fail .

I believe side-loading bypasses some necessary "registration" steps, which prevents the marketplace from updating applications correctly. This is a great question though, I'll fire this off to Brandon and crew and get back to you.

I honestly hope it can't be, and never can be. Not for your few who will use this legitly, but for those who will install the XAP of pirated software and then update it freely. I know, I always seem like I'm so pessimistic towards this homebrew community, but unfortunately, that's the realistic world...

superaca said:
It give a notification on marketplace, an update can be download but got an error when installing
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Yeah , I got the same Message ...

Chevron WP7 Updater Will Prevent Future Official Updates

According to this article, Updating to NoDo using Chevron WP7 Updater will prevent any official updates to your phone in the future.
http://wmpoweruser.com/microsoft-warns-chevronwp7-updater-will-prevent-all-future-official-updates/

With such a vague statement from Microsoft, Idk if I should believe it. If it is true, then I am sure a work around will be found

sifon187 said:
With such a vague statement from Microsoft, Idk if I should believe it. If it is true, then I am sure a work around will be found
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I'm sure the good people here at XDA will find a way around it. But still, its disheartening news

Might?
I believe the original article says it "might" put the phone into a state where it cannot receive future updates. Users have reported that they indeed did receive notifications when their carrier was pushing the update (actually MS was pushing the update) and those updates (re-updates of NoDo) went smoothly. I think the jury is out on this and we need to see if there is any validity to the statement from MS which, by the way, I don't think has been "vetted" at all. I would like to see the actual valid source at MS and the evidence. I know that hundreds of AT&T WP7 users will be getting their notifications soon (it appears that you will get the notification even if you have already used Chevron Updater and updated to NoDo) and can try to update and see what happens. I would say that if they perform the official update over the Chevron Update and it works, this is garbage meant to scare people and hide a vulnerability provided through the just released Tools.
IMHO

the update on the original article says:
"could possibly put the updated Windows Phone 7 device into a state where it cannot receive future regular updates to the OS anymore and the only fix will be re-flashing the device with an original stock ROM".
note that it says could and it's not even certain.
If you followed the instructions to get the nodo update w/o the Chevron updater you have a backup though the Zune software you can roll back to if this should become a problem.

Tools
I believe the Tools also provide a "Revert" function. From my readings, this was meant to take you back to 7004.

derausgewanderte said:
the update on the original article says:
"could possibly put the updated Windows Phone 7 device into a state where it cannot receive future regular updates to the OS anymore and the only fix will be re-flashing the device with an original stock ROM".
note that it says could and it's not even certain.
If you followed the instructions to get the nodo update w/o the Chevron updater you have a backup though the Zune software you can roll back to if this should become a problem.
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I'm just glad I didn't use this method to get NoDo.

JamesAllen said:
I believe the original article says it "might"
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I was typing too slow

That's OK
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I was typing too slow
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Like you, I read the article(s) and got the impression that this was speculative and the source was not sufficiently identified. I have been on these forums for years and with these types of indications, time is needed to 1. Vet the source and 2. See the evidence. IF it turns out to be true, it may just be an item in the Diagnostic program or a key in the registry. Too early to panic. Half the stuff that comes out of MS and AT&T is garbage anyway. In this case, they were both embarassed by the ease at which this was accomplished and the fact that the Phone Tools provided the means.

The Chevron updater is using files directly from Microsoft's own servers and program. I honestly, from a pure data standpoint, don't know how future updates can discern phones that have been officially updated vs chevron updated when both use MS bits. I wouldn't worry about the warning. It more so sounds like MS doesn't want you updating outside of carrier approved bits to which I say F THAT.
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Hey even if the block it for you guys... im sure you'll have it on your phone before its release anyway.... LOL....
I know I will

I waited for carrier update notice and after updating, device is still jail broken with no problems. I recommend people just use the legit method when updating to be safe.

I updated with Chevron monday, and the update was pushed by the carrier tuesday. Now I've got the update notification every time I sync my phone with Zune. If I accept it, it go through the update process (approx. 10 minutes), then notify me again the next time I plug the phone! Anyone else has this problem?

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The Chevron updater is using files directly from Microsoft's own servers and program. I honestly, from a pure data standpoint, don't know how future updates can discern phones that have been officially updated vs chevron updated when both use MS bits. I wouldn't worry about the warning. It more so sounds like MS doesn't want you updating outside of carrier approved bits to which I say F THAT.
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My question for you is ... did you finally get an update for your Panther...?

Ok, here is the rolldown.
Complete BS i say to that article claiming the software to Block any future update!
Here is why.
I used the Chevron tool to force the update. The Update workd well.
After restarting my phone, and connecting it again to zune, guess what haoppend?
I got the Update message again!
I Re ran the update through Zune, wich worked fine.
the backup however now shows me the first update i got through chevron updater so in fact the same as NoDo. No going back to pre NoDo with out a complete reflash of the ROM, but hey, why would i want that
So for me, what is stated is just not true!
The Update works, even after using chevron.
My device stayed unlocked as well with unlimited sideload.
No problems so far in using it
Greetings

Wrong thread!

kapanak said:
My question for you is ... did you finally get an update for your Panther...?
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No sir. Waiting on Walshie to release his Chevron.Updater source to see if there's anything we can do to trick the servers into updating us.

fb401 said:
No sir. Waiting on Walshie to release his Chevron.Updater source to see if there's anything we can do to trick the servers into updating us.
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If you know how to reflect you don't need their code, just reflect the support tool and you can determine if that is possible. Also you will notice that this statement (scare) is complete bull****, because the calls are the same used by Zune. (ZuneWmdu.dll)

The way it's worded, I'll bet the MS guys never intended them to be updated this way and don't know what it will do and warned people accordingly. Pretty standard procedure to me.
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Oh No Too Late!
Hey guys,
I read the message too late :-(. What can i do for my Omnia 7? Can i flash it back? Is there a way to get a the original rom back?
Cheers
Seb

ChevronWP7 Updater Released:Makes NoDo update a Cakewalk

A couple of days ago we posted about a Workaround for forced NoDo update which works pretty well.But if you are one of those Windows Phone 7 users,who still haven’t got their hands on the NoDo update(Copy-Paste) for their WP7 device?Wait no more,ChevronWP7 Updater to the Rescue.
Yes, one of the masterminds behind the famous Chevron WP7 Team Chris Walsh seems to have found a solution to the NoDo update problem with a simple solution,with a bit help from the recently released Windows Phone Support Tool.
Chris has released Chevron Updater utility which will allow you to update your phone with a few simple steps.So if you are tired of waiting for the AT&T’s update or any other carrier for that matter then head over to chris’s blog and download the Microsoft Windows Phone Support Tools and ChevronWP7.Updater.exe console app and follow the on screen instructions.The source for the updater application will be available by tomorrow.
Chris Walsh's ChevronWP7.Updater is a command line console app which prompts the user to follow the steps but it requires that the device language is supported by ChevronWP7.Update (at the moment the tool supports English US, English UK, French, Italian, Spanish and German) and it's strongly recommended not trying out any other language combinations!
Anyway, while this seems to be an interesting option to shorten the time for getting the Windows Phone 7 NoDo update, you better know what you are doing since such a workaround can seriously damage your Windows Phone 7! I would suggest to better wait until your carrier releases its Windows Phone 7 NoDo update but just in case you want it now, I've told you that there's a workaround.
THE BAD NEWS
UPDATE: Looks like Chris Walsh has taken down ChevronWP7.Updater, the download isn't available anymore. He has not yet given the reason for the take-down and therefore it's unclear if he has taken it down on Microsoft's request or because it caused more problems than it helped! Again, use it on your own risk and better know what you are doing if you plan to use it!
UPDATE 2: In an info, Microsoft seriously warns to use ChevronWP7.Updater. According to Microsoft, the use of ChevronWP7.Updater could possibly put the updated Windows Phone 7 device into a state where it cannot receive future regular updates to the OS anymore and the only fix will be re-flashing the device with an original stock ROM. At the end of the day if could mean that such Windows Phone 7 devices have to be send to the manufacturers or carriers service centers because unlike for Windows Mobile, stock ROMs are officially not available as a public download for end-users.

Bla bla bla microsoft..

yet, if you read the posts from that blog, people were getting nodo update notifications after using it, so that might be MS talking out of their azz.

those updates about ChevronWP7 Updater are AWESOME! I warned people about using the Chevron software. That things seemed a bit too convenient. That it probably was NOT a good idea to trust software coming from the same people that were supposedly in talks with Microsoft, that stopped supporting their own software, and that no one had really heard much from in a long while. When something is too good to be true, it usually is.

In other words best if u used the chevron updater u should either wait and see what will happen on future upadates (since u are up to date with chevron updater right now) or if u want to be sure u have to go the hard way unbranding your phone by the gold card method or whatever to get an "old" unbranded ROM installed and get the nodo update on this unbranded ROM over "normal" Zune update?
Prolly I should just switch to iphone5 once it gets realesed even tho I was really enjoying my WP7 so far

First I get all happy because WP7 owners can now upgrade their phones easily.
Then I get all sad because MS is acting up again (and might have forced the Chevron guys to take the updater offline).
WTF, Microsoft?

Microsoft isn't acting up.
I mean, seriously... If they were acting up they'd be closing other loopholes to getting the update (i.e. turning your connection off to force an early update notification) not telling people to not use Chevron.
Use it, but don't come here *****ing when you're still waiting on Mango 2 months after everyone else has gotten it.
Android updates no no different. Lots of times installing leaked updates or getting them through other means can have the same effect. You stop getting update notifications, etc.

Just Wait and See
People, just mellow out about this. Those were MS servers that the Chevron Updater pulled from with MS software, using a tool that MS developed that contained the hole that allowed Chevron Updater access.. There are those in Canada who used this method to update and then, days later, got a regular update notice for their carrier approved update and updated yet again, officially, with no problems. There is no way to verify whether this unsupported, thrid hand statement from God knows who and where, is real or not. Only time will tell and until then you have NoDo. If it turns out to be a problem it will be dealt with, I am sure. In fact, the statement says it is possible, not that it will. For Gods sake, ANYTHING is possible but few things are probable. So, lower your bloodpressure and wait for the next release whether it be a device specific firmware release, an official carrier approved release or the next official post-NoDo release.

[Q] PREVIEW Mango update with student developer account?

As the title suggests... i have a student developer account with APP HUB, can I update PREVIEW mango version (released/releasing these few days) with my phone still?
As i know, currently its the "paid" developers that have access to Preview mango update.
Let me know~ really hoping this works!!

i want to know too please

toothfish said:
As the title suggests... i have a student developer account with APP HUB, can I update PREVIEW mango version (released/releasing these few days) with my phone still?
As i know, currently its the "paid" developers that have access to Preview mango update.
Let me know~ really hoping this works!!
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Student App Hub accounts are identical to normal App Hub accounts.

nop they are not, they are similair but different.

I dont think the beta is coming as soon as they said
https://twitter.com/#!/BrandonWatson/status/83158862823297025

Rats...... but thanks for the update~

The update is indeed for paid and registered mango beta testers. So you do not only have to have a paid account, but you also need to be registered for beta testing Mango.
Further more, if you are such developer and you upgrade to Mango, be aware that there are new limitations to sideloading! Many homebrew tools and OEM tools won't be possible to sideload anymore.
When the moment is there that the update is available (not tomorrow), and you do decide to upgrade, I really want to ask everyone to capture the traffic during the update-process with Wireshark. If we have as much captures as possible, we can possibly create our own updater, like Chris Walsh did with NoDo. But we do need as much captures as possible to see which phones get which rom-packages. We should avoid half updates like in the original tool from Chris Walsh.
If you have a capture of the update, please post here.
Thanks,
Heathcliff74

Heathcliff74 said:
The update is indeed for paid and registered mango beta testers. So you do not only have to have a paid account, but you also need to be registered for beta testing Mango.
Further more, if you are such developer and you upgrade to Mango, be aware that there are new limitations to sideloading! Many homebrew tools and OEM tools won't be possible to sideload anymore.
When the moment is there that the update is available (not tomorrow), and you do decide to upgrade, I really want to ask everyone to capture the traffic during the update-process with Wireshark. If we have as much captures as possible, we can possibly create our own updater, like Chris Walsh did with NoDo. But we do need as much captures as possible to see which phones get which rom-packages. We should avoid half updates like in the original tool from Chris Walsh.
If you have a capture of the update, please post here.
Thanks,
Heathcliff74
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Any How to for capturing the traffic, I'm sure tons of people would like to participate if it was easy. Just start Wireshark and upload the log and that's it?

Yeah man, I'm willing to give this a shot when the update comes out, more than willing for the community... jejeje
I would like to know how to do this. I can post whatever comes out... I have an Arrive... We shall see... jejeje
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Heathcliff74 said:
The update is indeed for paid and registered mango beta testers. So you do not only have to have a paid account, but you also need to be registered for beta testing Mango.
Further more, if you are such developer and you upgrade to Mango, be aware that there are new limitations to sideloading! Many homebrew tools and OEM tools won't be possible to sideload anymore.
When the moment is there that the update is available (not tomorrow), and you do decide to upgrade, I really want to ask everyone to capture the traffic during the update-process with Wireshark. If we have as much captures as possible, we can possibly create our own updater, like Chris Walsh did with NoDo. But we do need as much captures as possible to see which phones get which rom-packages. We should avoid half updates like in the original tool from Chris Walsh.
If you have a capture of the update, please post here.
Thanks,
Heathcliff74
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ok,i'm with an apphub account(student) so the mango update for developers will be available on the dowload section directly on apphub(like the mango SDK 7.1) or i have to register my device ID to my account?
i couldn't myself,it's microsoft to register my device ID to my apphub account it is?

Heathcliff74 said:
When the moment is there that the update is available (not tomorrow), and you do decide to upgrade, I really want to ask everyone to capture the traffic during the update-process with Wireshark. If we have as much captures as possible, we can possibly create our own updater, like Chris Walsh did with NoDo. But we do need as much captures as possible to see which phones get which rom-packages. We should avoid half updates like in the original tool from Chris Walsh.
If you have a capture of the update, please post here.
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I think they'll do something similar to the XBox Dashboard Previews, meaning that ultimately you'll be able to install mango preview on any device, but they'll enable Windows Live sign-in only for registered devices, server side.
Unfortunately Microsoft has always been *****y about these preview things.

blindpet said:
Any How to for capturing the traffic, I'm sure tons of people would like to participate if it was easy. Just start Wireshark and upload the log and that's it?
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I'm no expert in Wireshark. I know how to use it for my own purposes. So this is what I would do, but if someone else has additional suggestions, feel free to help. The updates are over standard http, not https, so that makes it easier.
- Connect your phone to your computer and wait for Zune to be ready with sync.
- Download and start Wireshark.
- Select the network-interface you want to log (to be sure keep only one network-interface enabled, just to be sure you'll capture the correct interface).
- To be sure you capture the traffic from the phone too, go to menu Edit / Preferences. Select User Interface / Capture. And enable option Capture packets in Promiscuous Mode.
- To filter all unwanted data type this in the Filter textbox: http && !tcp.analysis.out_of_order && !tcp.analysis.retransmission
- Start update with Zune.
- When the update is ready, stop the capture and save it to a file.
To test if this works, do the above and use Internet Explorer on your phone. You should see the traffic in Wireshark.

hd2leo_fusion said:
ok,i'm with an apphub account(student) so the mango update for developers will be available on the dowload section directly on apphub(like the mango SDK 7.1) or i have to register my device ID to my account?
i couldn't myself,it's microsoft to register my device ID to my apphub account it is?
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I clearly said it was for paid and registered developers. Have you paid for your student account? Guess not. So unfortunately this beta is not going available for you. Even if you would register as a beta-tester. I wouldn't know how to do that anyway, because I haven't done that.

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I clearly said it was for paid and registered developers. Have you paid for your student account? Guess not. So unfortunately this beta is not going available for you. Even if you would register as a beta-tester. I wouldn't know how to do that anyway, because I haven't done that.
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Thats interesting... May I ask where you have that information from? I could not find anything on the create.msdn.com (app hub) forums about it. Was it in the news section somewhere?
Quite odd they wont give it to students.

Marvin_S said:
Thats interesting... May I ask where you have that information from? I could not find anything on the create.msdn.com (app hub) forums about it. Was it in the news section somewhere?
Quite odd they wont give it to students.
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Many sources:
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Ciao,
Heathcliff74

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Yes read those, it does not specifically says student accounts wont get it. Brandon watson also tweeted "@arnehelseth Every developer matters. Every. Single. One. Deep breath everyone". Don't know if this means something and is in the right context or not.
The articles just say it will be released to developer unlocked apphub account, which you can normally get by paying 99$ (they dont speak about student unlocks in particular).
"Neowin has received multiple independent tips that the beta will be made available for all devices through the MSDN Create hub for those with developer accounts, on June 22/23, with Microsoft set to make the announcement sometime during the next 24 hours. The beta will not be restricted to "favorite" developers but will be generally available to anyone with a paid subscription, and will be able to be loaded on any of the production devices."
Yes it indicates paid subscription, however does not really rule out student subscriptions since they are pretty much equal to MS. I dont know if we have to take these words literally or if its quickly written.
"The software giant will also offer beta bits for developers to load directly onto their devices, reports Neowin. Mango ROMs will be made available to existing Windows Phone developers via Microsoft’s App Hub development program. Access to the developer program is charged at $99 per year."
Students have free access to the App Hub development program.
I could not find where you need to sign up for the beta, have not read a mention about this. I could not find it in these sources.
You are probably right though that its only for paid subscriptions, since its easier to check who is a ginuine dev. I just wondered since I have not seen a clear "No to student account" post so I was not really sure about what to believe. Thank you for the clearification.

All sources I read stated that you need to have a paid registration. So it does not say 'no students' but students don't pay, so I guess that rules it out.
About the registered Mango beta tester, I don't see it right now, but I'm sure I've read that.
Anyway, we'll wait and see. Speculating now is not of much use.

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All sources I read stated that you need to have a paid registration. So it does not say 'no students' but students don't pay, so I guess that rules it out.
About the registered Mango beta tester, I don't see it right now, but I'm sure I've read that.
Anyway, we'll wait and see. Speculating now is not of much use.
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True, and they can always make a change of heart. Thanks we will see. If students get it, ill try and log the process with wireshark.

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True, and they can always make a change of heart. Thanks we will see. If students get it, ill try and log the process with wireshark.
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Ok. That would be cool. But I have to stress again: If you upgrade to Mango, be aware that there are new limitations to sideloading! Many homebrew tools and OEM tools won't be possible to sideload anymore. So if that is a problem for you, then you shouldn't upgrade. What would be interesting to know is, if you have such software that uses native code (like WP7 Root Tools, TouchXplorer, Screencam, etc) already on your phone, will it still be possible to use it after the upgrade?? And.. will the ChevronWP7 unlock survive the upgrade if you have to "prevent relock tweak" applied??

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Ok. That would be cool. But I have to stress again: If you upgrade to Mango, be aware that there are new limitations to sideloading! Many homebrew tools and OEM tools won't be possible to sideload anymore. So if that is a problem for you, then you shouldn't upgrade. What would be interesting to know is, if you have such software that uses native code (like WP7 Root Tools, TouchXplorer, Screencam, etc) already on your phone, will it still be possible to use it after the upgrade?? And.. will the ChevronWP7 unlock survive the upgrade if you have to "prevent relock tweak" applied??
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Yes I know. Thats what I wonder as well. Since we could use OEM apps added trough the marketplace. So upgrading with these apps in place might work. Ill also make a few zune backups so I can roll back just in case.
If roottools still works we might be able to set the prevent relock again. Im wondering about the sideload limit, because thats the most annoying thing for me. 3 is not much to sideload and I like to keep the apps Im developing on my phone to test them on the road.
Well Im trying not to get my hopes up for Mango anytime soon, but if its for students also Ill give it a shot. And I can maybe PM you before, if you can think of some things you want me to test out for you.

How do I create custom Accent themes?

The 10 colors on WP7 Mango just aren't doing it for me. I'm pretty new so could anyone give me a few pointers on how to change these colors to ones of my own liking?
My info:
HTC Trophy
Verizon Wireless
Mango 7712
Edit: I probably should have posted this in Q&A I'm sorry!

If you are unlocked and running anything other than Mango 7661 than you want to install Advanced Config. This allows you to set custom themes, custom ring tones, etc.

I'm trying to unlock my device, but I'm finding it impossible since I can't send an .exe file to my phone via any email service and you cannot unzip on WP7 so how do I go about doing this?

the exe is run from the computer
read the guide before you start
the .cer is run from the phone

Can I side-load this with the new Official Chevron unlock?

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Can I side-load this with the new Official Chevron unlock?
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ChevLab unlock, then use Heathcliff74's tool. Then you can put anything on your phone.
Well worth the $9 IMO. Only took me 30-45 minutes to go from stock mango to interop-unlocked with internet sharing, advance config, customed out.

My Mozart is unlocked and the Advanced Config tool keeps giving me a win32exception error
When will i ever get that orange accent on the Windows Phone 7.5 commercials?

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My Mozart is unlocked and the Advanced Config tool keeps giving me a win32exception error
When will i ever get that orange accent on the Windows Phone 7.5 commercials?
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I am getting the Win32 exception error as well. However the program continues to work after that.

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I am getting the Win32 exception error as well. However the program continues to work after that.
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Actually this was also the case for me, however after flashing with Ansar's 5.01 Trophy ROM, Advanced Config no longer do the trick for me.. Also Registry Editor no longer changes anything. But I've got IS working, so I'll live without Accent Color changing for a while until a new ROM gets released (DFT v2).

@Seed 2.0: You're instructing the owner of an HTC phone to use a tool that only runs on Samsung phones. Think about that one for a sec.
@e_rl: The Chevron Labs unlock will let you sideload "most" apps to your phone, but doesn't allow apps that can access high permissions (ID_CAP_INTEROPSERVICES). This includes anything like Advanced Config. For that you need "interop-unlock" which is difficult to get on HTC phones - you pretty much have to roll back to NoDo to get it right now (yes, it's a pain). You also need to have the Connection Setup app from HTC's marketplace, so don't bother rolling back if you don't. Then look up the threads on "U2M7720". It will also get you on the release build, which is a good thing - still running 7712 by now is just pointless.
Oh, by the way, the color shown in the ads is actually on the phone already, or t least on all the ones I've seen so far. It used to be called "orange" and was renamed to "mango" for this version release. Still, it's nice to be able to use truly custom colors.

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. For that you need "interop-unlock" which is difficult to get on HTC phones - you pretty much have to roll back to NoDo to get it right now (yes, it's a pain). You also need to have the Connection Setup app from HTC's marketplace, so don't bother rolling back if you don't. Then look up the threads on "U2M7720". It will also get you on the release build, which is a good thing - still running 7712 by now is just pointless.
Oh, by the way, the color shown in the ads is actually on the phone already, or t least on all the ones I've seen so far. It used to be called "orange" and was renamed to "mango" for this version release. Still, it's nice to be able to use truly custom colors.
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Hey man i see you mention HTC phones rolling back to NODO to get interop unlocked . I was under the impression that you would have to be Pre nodo , which is impossible on the Verizon Trophy .. i think . I was led to believe that Interop unlock on the Verizon trophy at all is impossible ... are you saying that it is ? Because i still have a nodo backup and have no issue with going back to it if it means interop .
Or maybe i am misunderstanding you .. thanks for any light you can shed on the situation !

No, you only have to roll back to *some* pre-Mango build (7403, the intermediate build between NoDo and Mango, even works; it doesn't have interop-lock).
The reason for rolling back to pre-NoDo is if you needed to use the original ChevronWP7 Unlocker, which doesn't work on NoDo or newer. If you have a developer (AppHub) account, or if you use the new ChevronWP7 Labs unlocker, you can dev-unlock the phone on NoDo and then install U2M7720.

Sorry for being a pain , but im relatively new to WP7 and you just made my entire week by saying interop is possible . Could you maybe lay out a step by step ? I am currently unlocked via Chevronlabs (new one) .
Word around the Trophy section is grim and this would bring some excitement to everyone if it works .
I do not have HTC connection settings in my HTC market ... does that mean its no good now ?

Yeah, sorry - if you don't have Connection Setup then you won't be able to interop-unlock on Mango right now. It's possible another app can be used the same way, but that will require more investigation. To be honest, I've not actually used U2M7720 myself - I interop-unlocked my HD7 by upgrading to Mango during its pre-release period, and using Connection Setup - but there have been multiple reports of it working.
The trick is that Connection Setup is an interopservices app that can be run on Mango anyhow, because it's marketplace signed, but it reads a file on the device that can contain additional operations to perform while setting up your connection (the \Windows\CustClear.provxml file). Prior to Mango, you use an interop app to place that file there (numerous apps exist, U2M7720 is one such but hardly the only - you can even do it manually using TouchXplorer). Then after upgrading, you run Connection Setup and it processes the registry change instructions in the provxml file for you. This makes the required changes to interop-unlock your phone.
The catch is that the official upgrade straight from NoDo to Mango also installs an HTC update that breaks the ability of Connection Setup to use the CustClear.provxml file. U2M7720 works around this by using the beta-upgrade path, putting your phone on retail Mango but without the HTC update (it can still be installed, but installs separately). Because I upgraded my phone from the pre-release anyhow, I didn't need U2M7720. Connection Setup isn't optional, though.
EDIT: Connection Setup is now back in the Marketplace! Much rejoicing to be had.

hmmm .. so would it work if you (or some other fine xda member) uploaded the xap for connection setup? Also , I upgraded to mango during the beta prerelease as well , but then did the official update .
So even if i roll back to NODO , since i did the official update , it will still be broken ? Thats terribly disappointing .
I guess it is impossible after all .

Seed 2.0 said:
ChevLab unlock, then use Heathcliff74's tool. Then you can put anything on your phone.
Well worth the $9 IMO. Only took me 30-45 minutes to go from stock mango to interop-unlocked with internet sharing, advance config, customed out.
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Which device do you have? i know Julien Devs for HTC phones.
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GoodDayToDie said:
@Seed 2.0: You're instructing the owner of an HTC phone to use a tool that only runs on Samsung phones. Think about that one for a sec.
@e_rl: The Chevron Labs unlock will let you sideload "most" apps to your phone, but doesn't allow apps that can access high permissions (ID_CAP_INTEROPSERVICES). This includes anything like Advanced Config. For that you need "interop-unlock" which is difficult to get on HTC phones - you pretty much have to roll back to NoDo to get it right now (yes, it's a pain). You also need to have the Connection Setup app from HTC's marketplace, so don't bother rolling back if you don't. Then look up the threads on "U2M7720". It will also get you on the release build, which is a good thing - still running 7712 by now is just pointless.
Oh, by the way, the color shown in the ads is actually on the phone already, or t least on all the ones I've seen so far. It used to be called "orange" and was renamed to "mango" for this version release. Still, it's nice to be able to use truly custom colors.
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umm.... Advanced Config originally started on HTC devices am i wrong? Samsung Focus has some mishandled exception error when launching.

@goldenpipes: It's totally possible that it did. This fact is even remotely relevant why? It's been available for, and functional on, HTC, Samsung, and LG phones for many months now, since well before Mango.

derausgewanderte said:
I am getting the Win32 exception error as well. However the program continues to work after that.
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Unfortunately, after the Win32Exception error, the apps UI works, but in terms of functionality it doesnt (for me at least), it throws a whole bunch of error codes at me when I try to apply the custom accent changes...