The 10 colors on WP7 Mango just aren't doing it for me. I'm pretty new so could anyone give me a few pointers on how to change these colors to ones of my own liking?
My info:
HTC Trophy
Verizon Wireless
Mango 7712
Edit: I probably should have posted this in Q&A I'm sorry!
If you are unlocked and running anything other than Mango 7661 than you want to install Advanced Config. This allows you to set custom themes, custom ring tones, etc.
I'm trying to unlock my device, but I'm finding it impossible since I can't send an .exe file to my phone via any email service and you cannot unzip on WP7 so how do I go about doing this?
the exe is run from the computer
read the guide before you start
the .cer is run from the phone
Can I side-load this with the new Official Chevron unlock?
s10010001 said:
Can I side-load this with the new Official Chevron unlock?
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ChevLab unlock, then use Heathcliff74's tool. Then you can put anything on your phone.
Well worth the $9 IMO. Only took me 30-45 minutes to go from stock mango to interop-unlocked with internet sharing, advance config, customed out.
My Mozart is unlocked and the Advanced Config tool keeps giving me a win32exception error
When will i ever get that orange accent on the Windows Phone 7.5 commercials?
fahdriyami said:
My Mozart is unlocked and the Advanced Config tool keeps giving me a win32exception error
When will i ever get that orange accent on the Windows Phone 7.5 commercials?
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I am getting the Win32 exception error as well. However the program continues to work after that.
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I am getting the Win32 exception error as well. However the program continues to work after that.
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Actually this was also the case for me, however after flashing with Ansar's 5.01 Trophy ROM, Advanced Config no longer do the trick for me.. Also Registry Editor no longer changes anything. But I've got IS working, so I'll live without Accent Color changing for a while until a new ROM gets released (DFT v2).
@Seed 2.0: You're instructing the owner of an HTC phone to use a tool that only runs on Samsung phones. Think about that one for a sec.
@e_rl: The Chevron Labs unlock will let you sideload "most" apps to your phone, but doesn't allow apps that can access high permissions (ID_CAP_INTEROPSERVICES). This includes anything like Advanced Config. For that you need "interop-unlock" which is difficult to get on HTC phones - you pretty much have to roll back to NoDo to get it right now (yes, it's a pain). You also need to have the Connection Setup app from HTC's marketplace, so don't bother rolling back if you don't. Then look up the threads on "U2M7720". It will also get you on the release build, which is a good thing - still running 7712 by now is just pointless.
Oh, by the way, the color shown in the ads is actually on the phone already, or t least on all the ones I've seen so far. It used to be called "orange" and was renamed to "mango" for this version release. Still, it's nice to be able to use truly custom colors.
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. For that you need "interop-unlock" which is difficult to get on HTC phones - you pretty much have to roll back to NoDo to get it right now (yes, it's a pain). You also need to have the Connection Setup app from HTC's marketplace, so don't bother rolling back if you don't. Then look up the threads on "U2M7720". It will also get you on the release build, which is a good thing - still running 7712 by now is just pointless.
Oh, by the way, the color shown in the ads is actually on the phone already, or t least on all the ones I've seen so far. It used to be called "orange" and was renamed to "mango" for this version release. Still, it's nice to be able to use truly custom colors.
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Hey man i see you mention HTC phones rolling back to NODO to get interop unlocked . I was under the impression that you would have to be Pre nodo , which is impossible on the Verizon Trophy .. i think . I was led to believe that Interop unlock on the Verizon trophy at all is impossible ... are you saying that it is ? Because i still have a nodo backup and have no issue with going back to it if it means interop .
Or maybe i am misunderstanding you .. thanks for any light you can shed on the situation !
No, you only have to roll back to *some* pre-Mango build (7403, the intermediate build between NoDo and Mango, even works; it doesn't have interop-lock).
The reason for rolling back to pre-NoDo is if you needed to use the original ChevronWP7 Unlocker, which doesn't work on NoDo or newer. If you have a developer (AppHub) account, or if you use the new ChevronWP7 Labs unlocker, you can dev-unlock the phone on NoDo and then install U2M7720.
Sorry for being a pain , but im relatively new to WP7 and you just made my entire week by saying interop is possible . Could you maybe lay out a step by step ? I am currently unlocked via Chevronlabs (new one) .
Word around the Trophy section is grim and this would bring some excitement to everyone if it works .
I do not have HTC connection settings in my HTC market ... does that mean its no good now ?
Yeah, sorry - if you don't have Connection Setup then you won't be able to interop-unlock on Mango right now. It's possible another app can be used the same way, but that will require more investigation. To be honest, I've not actually used U2M7720 myself - I interop-unlocked my HD7 by upgrading to Mango during its pre-release period, and using Connection Setup - but there have been multiple reports of it working.
The trick is that Connection Setup is an interopservices app that can be run on Mango anyhow, because it's marketplace signed, but it reads a file on the device that can contain additional operations to perform while setting up your connection (the \Windows\CustClear.provxml file). Prior to Mango, you use an interop app to place that file there (numerous apps exist, U2M7720 is one such but hardly the only - you can even do it manually using TouchXplorer). Then after upgrading, you run Connection Setup and it processes the registry change instructions in the provxml file for you. This makes the required changes to interop-unlock your phone.
The catch is that the official upgrade straight from NoDo to Mango also installs an HTC update that breaks the ability of Connection Setup to use the CustClear.provxml file. U2M7720 works around this by using the beta-upgrade path, putting your phone on retail Mango but without the HTC update (it can still be installed, but installs separately). Because I upgraded my phone from the pre-release anyhow, I didn't need U2M7720. Connection Setup isn't optional, though.
EDIT: Connection Setup is now back in the Marketplace! Much rejoicing to be had.
hmmm .. so would it work if you (or some other fine xda member) uploaded the xap for connection setup? Also , I upgraded to mango during the beta prerelease as well , but then did the official update .
So even if i roll back to NODO , since i did the official update , it will still be broken ? Thats terribly disappointing .
I guess it is impossible after all .
Seed 2.0 said:
ChevLab unlock, then use Heathcliff74's tool. Then you can put anything on your phone.
Well worth the $9 IMO. Only took me 30-45 minutes to go from stock mango to interop-unlocked with internet sharing, advance config, customed out.
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Which device do you have? i know Julien Devs for HTC phones.
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@Seed 2.0: You're instructing the owner of an HTC phone to use a tool that only runs on Samsung phones. Think about that one for a sec.
@e_rl: The Chevron Labs unlock will let you sideload "most" apps to your phone, but doesn't allow apps that can access high permissions (ID_CAP_INTEROPSERVICES). This includes anything like Advanced Config. For that you need "interop-unlock" which is difficult to get on HTC phones - you pretty much have to roll back to NoDo to get it right now (yes, it's a pain). You also need to have the Connection Setup app from HTC's marketplace, so don't bother rolling back if you don't. Then look up the threads on "U2M7720". It will also get you on the release build, which is a good thing - still running 7712 by now is just pointless.
Oh, by the way, the color shown in the ads is actually on the phone already, or t least on all the ones I've seen so far. It used to be called "orange" and was renamed to "mango" for this version release. Still, it's nice to be able to use truly custom colors.
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umm.... Advanced Config originally started on HTC devices am i wrong? Samsung Focus has some mishandled exception error when launching.
@goldenpipes: It's totally possible that it did. This fact is even remotely relevant why? It's been available for, and functional on, HTC, Samsung, and LG phones for many months now, since well before Mango.
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I am getting the Win32 exception error as well. However the program continues to work after that.
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Unfortunately, after the Win32Exception error, the apps UI works, but in terms of functionality it doesnt (for me at least), it throws a whole bunch of error codes at me when I try to apply the custom accent changes...
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I've finally reach 10 unsigned app on my phone. Took way longer that I thought...
This is not new for anyone who's not spending time asking for unlock key, but I've made a small app to automate the process of pushing the limit to 100000.
Here it is: http://bit.ly/qpVyR4
Work on my HTC, may work on other device as well (let me know).
Warning: At least one person had problem deploying app on his Samsung after running this app.
Edit: Updated version with rollback button (which already exists but was hidden )
this has been out for like a month now..... but good job of creating one!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=875885
Exactly what I said... nothing new but packaged as a XAP
Advanced Configuration Tool for WP7 Beta
http://forum.touchxperience.com/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=590&p=2349
has an option to remove the limit, plus set as many colour schemes as you like, and add single registry keys directly.
Its still beta but works a treat so far on my HD2, and comes with about 50 colours for the theme, or input your own with hex codes.
This tools works only on HTC. Minne should work on Samsung too, maybe on LG.
But if you have an HTC, AdvConfig is probably easier to use.
I'm not spending much time making pretty app
I ran this earlier (along with setting the key manually before), and it doesn't work. I still was limited to 10 apps.
But now, frighteningly, I'm unable to deploy -some- apps from Visual Studio (limit reached). I have a real dev unlock, never messed with Chevron.
Thanks, (nico)! I've removed this (stupid!) limit on my Focus (officially unlocked), everything works fine including deployment/debug from VS 2010. Good job!
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I ran this earlier (along with setting the key manually before), and it doesn't work. I still was limited to 10 apps.
But now, frighteningly, I'm unable to deploy -some- apps from Visual Studio (limit reached). I have a real dev unlock, never messed with Chevron.
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I'm also officially unlock.
Like with folks with Chevron, I think the limit will be reseted periodically by Zune.
What do you mean by "some" apps?
You can't install more than 10 apps?
Not sure what do you mean, but I'll try to answer.
Using (official) unlock method, you won't be able to deploy more than 10 unsigned apps. 3 if you have a student account.
Chevron also have the same 10 limit (because they intentionally keep MS limit).
This registry tweak try to remove that limit.
In either way, this don't modify the number of app you can install though Marketplace, which is not limited.
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I'm also officially unlock.
Like with folks with Chevron, I think the limit will be reseted periodically by Zune.
What do you mean by "some" apps?
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I set the key manually in the code Rusty released for the Samsung devices the other day. I wasn't able to deploy the 11th app via VS. I continued dealing with it until I got your XAP, I ran that yesterday and now sometimes I have trouble deploying in VS, even with <10 apps. Restarting VS and the phone doesn't have any effect.
Not that I'm blaming you or anything - just figured I'd note my experience. Some projects will still deploy, not sure of the pattern yet.
Thanks, that the kind of feedback I'm looking for. I'll add this to the first post to warn people.
If you have more infos, please share so we can have something more stable.
Thanks!
* Works on [Europe] Omnia 7
Ah this is the tool that some XDA user was trying to pass off as his own tool.
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Ah this is the tool that some XDA user was trying to pass off as his own tool.
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What are you talking about?
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What are you talking about?
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Look up the RRTool in this forum that I wrote, he is basically saying I rebranded the Chevron Tool as my own, even though my Tool runs on the device not from desktop and only prevents relocking, it doesnt actually unlock a device like chevron does. He only has 2 posts and tried to ruin my credability! Not Happy!
He is a lame troll. Don't pay attention. Thank you both guys! Great job!
P.S. Just a small remark: after using your tools (first I've tried (nico)'s tool, later (toady) RRTool. Both works good but behavior of VS 2010 a little bit changed. Now I can't deploy project via Zune - must close it first and use WPConnect.
Did you try to restore the original value (probably 10 for most users) and see what happends?
Nope, I didn't. Just have no time to browse for Samsung's registry editor or reflect back your's or lyriquidperfection app. Could you add an option to restore back an original values? Anyway, it's not a real problem. MS limitation of 10 app (or 3 for student account) it's just stupid and unfair. What, if I have more than 10(3) homebrew projects to debug and run? What, if I want to recreate all apps I need by myself? But of course the "MS greediness sux!" is not a topic for this thread
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Nope, I didn't. Just have no time to browse for Samsung's registry editor or reflect back your's or lyriquidperfection app. Could you add an option to restore back an original values? Anyway, it's not a real problem. MS limitation of 10 app (or 3 for student account) it's just stupid and unfair. What, if I have more than 10(3) homebrew projects to debug and run? What, if I want to recreate all apps I need by myself? But of course the "MS greediness sux!" is not a topic for this thread
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Sorry I thought I did it but the button was hidden
Here is an updated version with a restore button to 10 apps: http://bit.ly/gKZDgj
According to this article, Updating to NoDo using Chevron WP7 Updater will prevent any official updates to your phone in the future.
http://wmpoweruser.com/microsoft-warns-chevronwp7-updater-will-prevent-all-future-official-updates/
With such a vague statement from Microsoft, Idk if I should believe it. If it is true, then I am sure a work around will be found
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With such a vague statement from Microsoft, Idk if I should believe it. If it is true, then I am sure a work around will be found
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I'm sure the good people here at XDA will find a way around it. But still, its disheartening news
Might?
I believe the original article says it "might" put the phone into a state where it cannot receive future updates. Users have reported that they indeed did receive notifications when their carrier was pushing the update (actually MS was pushing the update) and those updates (re-updates of NoDo) went smoothly. I think the jury is out on this and we need to see if there is any validity to the statement from MS which, by the way, I don't think has been "vetted" at all. I would like to see the actual valid source at MS and the evidence. I know that hundreds of AT&T WP7 users will be getting their notifications soon (it appears that you will get the notification even if you have already used Chevron Updater and updated to NoDo) and can try to update and see what happens. I would say that if they perform the official update over the Chevron Update and it works, this is garbage meant to scare people and hide a vulnerability provided through the just released Tools.
IMHO
the update on the original article says:
"could possibly put the updated Windows Phone 7 device into a state where it cannot receive future regular updates to the OS anymore and the only fix will be re-flashing the device with an original stock ROM".
note that it says could and it's not even certain.
If you followed the instructions to get the nodo update w/o the Chevron updater you have a backup though the Zune software you can roll back to if this should become a problem.
Tools
I believe the Tools also provide a "Revert" function. From my readings, this was meant to take you back to 7004.
derausgewanderte said:
the update on the original article says:
"could possibly put the updated Windows Phone 7 device into a state where it cannot receive future regular updates to the OS anymore and the only fix will be re-flashing the device with an original stock ROM".
note that it says could and it's not even certain.
If you followed the instructions to get the nodo update w/o the Chevron updater you have a backup though the Zune software you can roll back to if this should become a problem.
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I'm just glad I didn't use this method to get NoDo.
JamesAllen said:
I believe the original article says it "might"
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I was typing too slow
That's OK
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I was typing too slow
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Like you, I read the article(s) and got the impression that this was speculative and the source was not sufficiently identified. I have been on these forums for years and with these types of indications, time is needed to 1. Vet the source and 2. See the evidence. IF it turns out to be true, it may just be an item in the Diagnostic program or a key in the registry. Too early to panic. Half the stuff that comes out of MS and AT&T is garbage anyway. In this case, they were both embarassed by the ease at which this was accomplished and the fact that the Phone Tools provided the means.
The Chevron updater is using files directly from Microsoft's own servers and program. I honestly, from a pure data standpoint, don't know how future updates can discern phones that have been officially updated vs chevron updated when both use MS bits. I wouldn't worry about the warning. It more so sounds like MS doesn't want you updating outside of carrier approved bits to which I say F THAT.
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Hey even if the block it for you guys... im sure you'll have it on your phone before its release anyway.... LOL....
I know I will
I waited for carrier update notice and after updating, device is still jail broken with no problems. I recommend people just use the legit method when updating to be safe.
I updated with Chevron monday, and the update was pushed by the carrier tuesday. Now I've got the update notification every time I sync my phone with Zune. If I accept it, it go through the update process (approx. 10 minutes), then notify me again the next time I plug the phone! Anyone else has this problem?
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The Chevron updater is using files directly from Microsoft's own servers and program. I honestly, from a pure data standpoint, don't know how future updates can discern phones that have been officially updated vs chevron updated when both use MS bits. I wouldn't worry about the warning. It more so sounds like MS doesn't want you updating outside of carrier approved bits to which I say F THAT.
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My question for you is ... did you finally get an update for your Panther...?
Ok, here is the rolldown.
Complete BS i say to that article claiming the software to Block any future update!
Here is why.
I used the Chevron tool to force the update. The Update workd well.
After restarting my phone, and connecting it again to zune, guess what haoppend?
I got the Update message again!
I Re ran the update through Zune, wich worked fine.
the backup however now shows me the first update i got through chevron updater so in fact the same as NoDo. No going back to pre NoDo with out a complete reflash of the ROM, but hey, why would i want that
So for me, what is stated is just not true!
The Update works, even after using chevron.
My device stayed unlocked as well with unlimited sideload.
No problems so far in using it
Greetings
Wrong thread!
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My question for you is ... did you finally get an update for your Panther...?
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No sir. Waiting on Walshie to release his Chevron.Updater source to see if there's anything we can do to trick the servers into updating us.
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No sir. Waiting on Walshie to release his Chevron.Updater source to see if there's anything we can do to trick the servers into updating us.
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If you know how to reflect you don't need their code, just reflect the support tool and you can determine if that is possible. Also you will notice that this statement (scare) is complete bull****, because the calls are the same used by Zune. (ZuneWmdu.dll)
The way it's worded, I'll bet the MS guys never intended them to be updated this way and don't know what it will do and warned people accordingly. Pretty standard procedure to me.
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Oh No Too Late!
Hey guys,
I read the message too late :-(. What can i do for my Omnia 7? Can i flash it back? Is there a way to get a the original rom back?
Cheers
Seb
..unless there's a working registry solution for Samsung devices in Mango. I suppose I thought fast app switching was developer code independent, but it seems I need to apply the dehydration hack to achieve the results I want.
Here's some background in case anyone can help me load a registry editor on here or revert to NoDo, apply the tweak, and then upgrade back again:
1. I have no idea where my backup actually saved to, but I know it's there. Does anyone know what the known locations are? The actual file extension?
2. I used the cracked tool to upgrade to Mango. I'm a dev but I'm stuck in GeoTrust verification which won't let me dev unlock (or upgrade using the official tool) until that process is complete.
3. Are there any other tweaks I should apply while in NoDo land?
%LOCALAPPDATA%\Microsoft\Windows Phone Update
Fast task switching is developer-code independent, but third-party apps written using the pre-Mango SDK will have their Activate (rehydrate) function called when you switch to them. In many cases, this will cause the app to waste some time. Even in Mango, non-foreground apps aren't actually running - they're just suspended (in RAM but inactive). Resume *can* be instant, but it requires that the app be aware of suspend/resume, which requires that it be a Mango app.
Registry tweaks made while in NoDo should carry over to Mango. My phone carried its custom accent color and a few other changes across the update just fine.
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2. I used the cracked tool to upgrade to Mango. I'm a dev but I'm stuck in GeoTrust verification which won't let me dev unlock (or upgrade using the official tool) until that process is complete.
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FYI, I was stuck there as well. As it turned out, I didn't submit the required icon images and screenshot. It sat in a waiting for GeoTrust verification without telling me my submission was incomplete.
Not sure if this helps but I figured I may as well pass along my experience.
I also I put a .99 price on the shell app I submitted. I obtained my dev account via DreamSpark and I remember reading that you will waste one of your 5 free apps if you don't put a price on the verification app.
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FYI, I was stuck there as well. As it turned out, I didn't submit the required icon images and screenshot. It sat in a waiting for GeoTrust verification without telling me my submission was incomplete.
Not sure if this helps but I figured I may as well pass along my experience.
I also I put a .99 price on the shell app I submitted. I obtained my dev account via DreamSpark and I remember reading that you will waste one of your 5 free apps if you don't put a price on the verification app.
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The free apps limit has been raised to a hundred. So that's not really relevant anymore.
You could also do it the way I did - actually write a basic application and submit it when you've got the core functionality done. Then keep working on it and as soon as it's published, submit an update that actually just finishes the app.
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..unless there's a working registry solution for Samsung devices in Mango. I suppose I thought fast app switching was developer code independent, but it seems I need to apply the dehydration hack to achieve the results I want.
Here's some background in case anyone can help me load a registry editor on here or revert to NoDo, apply the tweak, and then upgrade back again:
1. I have no idea where my backup actually saved to, but I know it's there. Does anyone know what the known locations are? The actual file extension?
2. I used the cracked tool to upgrade to Mango. I'm a dev but I'm stuck in GeoTrust verification which won't let me dev unlock (or upgrade using the official tool) until that process is complete.
3. Are there any other tweaks I should apply while in NoDo land?
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Υour title has nothing to do with your post !!!!!!!!!!!!!! Change the title m8
I generally don't care so much about not being able to:
1. transfer sms and contacts TO sim
2. sync doc, txt, and pdf files, offline, through Zune
3. sync flac or divx files
4. make an offline backup of contacts or of the whole phone configuration
5. create new accent colors
6. toggle wifi/gps/3g data/bluetooth with a single tap from the home screen
7. dictate sms or other speech orders in my native language
etc...
All of the above limitations (and some more) can be tolerable at some degree because of WP7 general superiority in other levels.
BUT...
I'm really pissed off with Microsoft...They have totally abandoned open market phones...First, we had a major error with Mango for LG update, that forced some people to flash a new official rom in order to get it. I never got a tethering update for my open LG and now I don't even get the latest official 7740 update. I don't f$%^ care about carriers. I bought an officially OPEN device and I demand support, or else they can stop selling us illusions...
Muvolt said:
I generally don't care so much about not being able to:
1. transfer sms and contacts TO sim
2. sync doc, txt, and pdf files, offline, through Zune
3. sync flac or divx files
4. make an offline backup of contacts or of the whole phone configuration
5. create new accent colors
6. toggle wifi/gps/3g data/bluetooth with a single tap from the home screen
7. dictate sms or other speech orders in my native language
etc...
All of the above limitations (and some more) can be tolerable at some degree because of WP7 general superiority in other levels.
BUT...
I'm really pissed off with Microsoft...They have totally abandoned open market phones...First, we had a major error with Mango for LG update, that forced some people to flash a new official rom in order to get it. I never got a tethering update for my open LG and now I don't even get the latest official 7740 update. I don't f$%^ care about carriers. I bought an officially OPEN device and I demand support, or else they can stop selling us illusions...
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Blame your OEM, not Microsoft for not getting tethering. They are the ones delivering the proper drivers needed for tethering to be enabled. The feature is already built in in Mango. Concerning 7740 you're right. But it has been released when? Yesterday? No update so far has reached all users at the same time. It has always taken a few weeks until every single Windows Phone user out there received an update. Knowing that 7740 won't change much, I personally do not really care about when I will receive it.
So far I didn´t get the latest 7740 update either, but I installed it manually with cab sender.
The official 7740 update you can download here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1306415
contable said:
So far I didn´t get the latest 7740 update either, but I installed it manually with cab sender.
The official 7740 update you can download here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1306415
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It doesn't fix the keyboard disappearing issue, so it's pretty much useless. This is by far the biggest annoyance for me right now. Keyboard disappears 10+ times when i'm typing a SMS. And in some apps you can't bring back the keyboard by touching the input box. I have to copy/paste and try again.
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Blame your OEM, not Microsoft for not getting tethering. They are the ones delivering the proper drivers needed for tethering to be enabled. The feature is already built in in Mango. Concerning 7740 you're right. But it has been released when? Yesterday? No update so far has reached all users at the same time. It has always taken a few weeks until every single Windows Phone user out there received an update. Knowing that 7740 won't change much, I personally do not really care about when I will receive it.
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You are right here, but this wouldn't have happened if Microsoft had put strict rules around its ecosystem. It's unacceptable for such a unified quality concept to have basic specs like tethering, managed almost randomly (at will) by the OEMs without Microsoft's supervision. LG has released the firmware for branded phones (so, there is no arguing here that they couldn't have released it because of hardware restrictions) and totally rejected all of those people who have open phones. WHO controls this type of marketing anarchy around one of the most innovative, popular products of the world?
I'm shocked by this management attitude, because I'm a Microsoft customer for over 18 years and I know very well that they are aces in product support. As I mentioned earlier, ιn my first post, this is not the only fault Ι've been through and I'm looking forward to see this company measuring its actions with responsibility and care but, right now I'm totally disappointed.
contable said:
So far I didn´t get the latest 7740 update either, but I installed it manually with cab sender.
The official 7740 update you can download here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1306415
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is cab sender only for htc? says I need zune wmdu 4.8.2134
contable said:
So far I didn´t get the latest 7740 update either, but I installed it manually with cab sender.
The official 7740 update you can download here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1306415
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Thanks a lot for this info!
2 threads about the same thing....?
Bla Bla Bla... Close thread, waste of space.
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Bla Bla Bla... Close thread, waste of space.
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It's a general WP7 discussion place and you should be more polite sir.
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2 threads about the same thing....?
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I have made one in the specific LG e900 forum as well, because I use an open LG device, so, the discussion exists in two places to be seen by people who have as well as those who don't have an LG device, but they do have an open device with similar problems.
Muvolt said:
I have made one in the specific LG e900 forum as well, because I use an open LG device, so, the discussion exists in two places to be seen by people who have as well as those who don't have an LG device, but they do have an open device with similar problems.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1352887
That would be post number three then... Sometimes i dont understand why there is all this hate on this board. Isnt this supposed to be where people come together to innovate and find new ways to use their devices? Not to complain about what they have without contributing anything...
I was referring to this thread, about 10 down from this one...but carry on, I thought it was groundhog's day.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1352887
contable said:
So far I didn´t get the latest 7740 update either, but I installed it manually with cab sender.
The official 7740 update you can download here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1306415
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Can you help me with this? I tried the instructions carefully but it doesn't work says No Update files
The problem? No money because wp not selling so no updates.... microsoft dont work for free....
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i don't understand this thread. is there any actual evidence that they're abandoning open market phones?
Hi hackers!
Found something pretty cool while I was digging around looking for new interop-unlock hacks. The bad news is that it looks like it's not usable for interop unlock, the good news is that it's still pretty cool.
This previously required a dev-unlock, but no longer does. It does not require interop-unlock. It works on all phones (as far as I know).
UPDATE 3: ZIP file usable on non-unlocked phones EDIT: I think this will not work on most phones. Sorry! The XAPs still work, if you can sideload them
I've added a ZIP file that can be used to switch the OEM Marketplace without needing to sideload a XAP at all. Instructions are inside, but basically you tap the XML file for the OEM you want, then reboot the phone.
UPDATE 2: Dell Apps.xap, Nokia Apps.xap (v2)
The Dell apps collection is hidden, like the Nokia one was (see Update 1 below). The only app I was able to find was "Newsroom" (another app kind of like HTC Hub). If there are others, please let me know and I'll try to find them.
Nokia has collected their apps into a single marketplace section, like HTC/Samsung/LG. The new Nokia Apps.xap reflects this, so disregard the Update 1 note below for Nokia, and download the new XAP!
UPDATE 1: Nokia Apps.xap (See the Update 2 note - Nokia Apps.xap has been changed)
Be aware that this app works a little differently. Rather than actually adding a "Nokia" store to your Marketplace list, it just enables your phone to access Nokia's apps though the normal marketplace. Not sure why some OEMs did their own store and others didn't, but that's why it wasn't working before (it isn't a stand-alone store section).
An easy way to find the Nokia apps is to do a seach for a well-known app, like Nokia Maps. Then, open it and tap the "More from Nokia Corporation" link. This will take you to a list of all of Nokia's apps.
WHAT IS IT?
Install a XAP or tap an XML file in the ZIP, and restart your phone. Then, open the marketplace, and you'll discover that, instead of "HTC Apps" or "Samsung Zone" or whatever your default is, you can install OEM apps from a different OEM.
WHAT CAN I DO?
If you want to install Nokia, HTC, Samsung, LG, or Dell apps, open the ZIP file on your phone, look for the OEM name you want, and tap the XML file immediately under that OEM name. You'll need to restart your phone before the Marketplace changes.
If you want to help out, give me as much info as you can about the other OEM marketplaces (Toshiba/Fujitsu, perhaps?)
IS IT DANGEROUS?
Well, it's a hack. There's always *some* danger. However, you don't need to worry very much. The phone will automatically revert the Marketplace after a day or so. You can also get your proper marketplace back by installing the corresponding app/tapping the desired ZIP.
However, you *really* should keep an up-to-date restore point any time you're messing with stuff like that, especially with new hacks. If something screws up and doesn't straighten out, restore a backup or hard-reset and it will fix itself.
EDIT: The ZIP does not appear to work on most phones. The XAP files should still work on 7.8, though.
WHO CAN I THANK?
Well, aside from myself thanks go to:
Heathcliff74, for the XAP deployer hack and the Samsung marketplace configuration file.
Schaps, for TouchXplorer (let me find the relevant file).
Voluptuary, for info about both OEM and MO marketplaces (working on those).
wpxbox, for the info about "Nokia collection".
CAN I ASK A QUESTION?
You just did, or at least, I did for you. Please see the next post after this one for FAQ. Otherwise, feel free to post a reply with your question. Please, if it's at all relevant, include the make, model, and version of your phone and OS/firmware.
OK, I know you all will have some questions. I'll try to collect them, and their answers, here so people don't have to read every post.
If you ask a question that is already answered here, I may facepalm and/or use sarcasm.
DO I NEED TO RUN THIS APP?
No, you don't. It doesn't do anything at all after installing. In fact, I re-used another app that I had handy, so the message you see isn't even accurate!
WHY DOES THE MESSAGE IN THE APP TALK ABOUT INTEROP UNLOCK? CAN I USE THIS APP FOR INTEROP UNLOCK?
It talks about it because I reused in interop-unlock app (which works exactly the same way, but with a different file). This app will not interop-unlock your phone, or even allow you to do so. However, it doesn't need interop-unlock, either. Furthermore, why are you running the app? You don't need to; none of the instructions say to run it.
CAN I DELETE THE APP?
Yes. Once it's installed, you can delete it immediately if you want to.
HOW DO I GET MY OWN OEM'S MARKETPLACE BACK?
You can either install the corresponding XAP and reboot, or you can wait a day or so for the phone to recover on its own.
HOW CAN I GET BACK TO AN OEM MARKETPLACE THAT I ACCESSED BEFORE?
Remove the app (and any variant of it), if it's currently installed. Then, install it again. Then, reboot as before, and you should see the marketplace corresponding to whatever XAP you used.
WHY DON'T ALL APPS WORK?
Many apps will use native drivers to do their work. These drivers are specific to each OEM's firmware, and are baked into the ROM. Apps that don't need special permissions, like the Samsung Now app or LG's Look n Type, should work. Apps that have high permissions or do device-specific things, like a Network Profile app or HTC Sound Enhancer (if it ever appears again) won't work on other phones.
SOME OF THESE APPS HAVE ID_CAP_INTEROPSERVICES, CAN WE USE THEM FOR INTEROP UNLOCK?
No. The apps may appear to work (even on interop-locked phones) because they were installed from the Marketplace and have valid signatures. However, they won't actually be able to do anything useful, because the wrong drivers will be installed (see the previous question).
CAN YOU ADD A XAP FOR ANOTHER MARKETPLACE?
Sure, once the required configuration data is available. This can be tricky - for example, the values for HTC and Samsung are "HTC" and "Samsung", respectively, but the one for LG is actually "LGE" (LG Electronics). I don't know what they are for Toshiba/Fujitsu, and I'm not sure I have everything from Dell, and I don't have any others. Any help here would be appreciated!
CAN I ACCESS MORE THAN ONE OEM MARKETPLACE AT ONCE?
No, sorry. I tried to build support for multiple OEM markets, but it didn't work. The last one overwrites the previous.
WILL APPS KEEP WORKING AFTER THE MARKETPLACE REVERTS?
So far, yes. I don't know whether they'll get updates, although I suspect they will.
CAN SOMETHING BE DONE ABOUT APPS COMPLAINING THEY DON'T WORK ON MY PHONE?
Sadly, no (nothing safe). Most of the LG and Samsung apps that I've tried work just fine (interop aside) on my HTC phone. It helps that in Mango, a lot of formerly interop capabilities (like compass for LG ScanSearch) are now in the official APIs. Some apps will still check though, and there's nothing I can do about that.
CAN WE ACCESS MARKETPLACES FOR OTHER OPERATORS?
It's probably possible, but I haven't bothered to try yet. If there are interesting apps for carriers that work outside of that carrier's network, I'll give it a shot. It's a different file but the structure is very similar.
IS THERE A LIST OF APPS KNOWN TO WORK?
Courtesy of user JusThinK, as of 1 Feb 2012:
JusThinK said:
Converter
FunShot
HTC Hub
Look n Type
MiniDiary
Notes
Now
Photo Enhancer
Photo Studio
Photo Stylist
Photogram
ScanSearch
SmartShare(previously know as Play To - Working fine on with my Samsung HDTV)
ToolBox
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can you just deploy all three and have access to all 3 sources in marketplace?
once you install apps from the other oem sources, and the market reverts back, do you lose the apps you have installed?
No. I tried to build it so you could access multiple OEM marketplaces at once, but it didn't work - only ever used the last one in the config file.
Apps stay installed and runnable even after the marketplace reverts. However, I can't promise they'll receive updates. I think they will, but I haven't been testing this long enough to find out.
Dell's marketplace string is "Dell"
Nokia's marketplace string is "Nokia"
I still haven't figured out Fujistu's.
thanx dude,
The 3 xap files are working on the HTC Trophy.
But the LG apps that you can download, if you run the downloaded app from LG place. He said Only for LG devices.
So are you editing the files in the 'keepers' folder? I had found those some time ago and posted them HERE back in October. I thought they would lead to this since when they were deleted the OEM marketplaces would simply go away, same can be done to remove the carrier marketplaces, but I had trouble getting them off my device to really look at them.
Be warned though in my similar pre-mango hack with the registry we found that changing the OEM marketplace values made the DRM wig out and would prevent any apps from starting. The only way to fix it was a full reset or restore to a point before the modifications were done.
I would guess that if you edit LKG_MOStoreConfig.xml you could do the same thing with carriers.
OEM's:
Samsung
HTC
LGE
Dell
Nokia
MO's:
Att
Tmous
Tmode
I am pretty sure these are case sensitive too so keep that in mind.
Thanks GoodDayToDie
this solution it gives me solved my phone not show OEM App in market
Just wondering and perhaps some people might want to test with me if we set LKG_MOStoreConfig.xml and LKG_OEMStoreConfig.xml to read only will it stay set instead of only lasting a few days?
The reason I want this is becuase I want at&t's stupid marketplace entry to remain GONE so I edited LKG_MOStoreConfig.xml to this:
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<ConfigurationFile version="1">
<MOStore>
<setting id="MOName"></setting>
<setting id="MOStoreName"></setting>
<setting id="MOStoreID"></setting>
<setting id="MOStoreEnabled">False</setting>
</MOStore>
</ConfigurationFile>
Now I'm just guessing that this is how it should look since like I said before I never could get the original files off my phone to look at them.
@voluptuary: That would probably work (in fact, the "false" alone is probably enough). Marking the file read-only may or may not be sufficient.
@cyclonemon: You're welcome! I didn't even realize people were having that issue but yes, it should help there too.
I am confused, can't I do this already with Milkman's WP7 3MktPlace? I can search/list 3MktPlace apps . I can add new info such as Nokia to the application. It finds and saves the XAP to the PC and from which I can deploy it to the phone.
ok, after reading more carefully, the program process above would require interop unlock, your route doesn't
@voluptuary (again): Thanks for the OEM names. I'm pretty sure I tried "Nokia" and it didn't work, but I'm trying it again (I did the edit on the phone during testing, and that's pretty typo-prone). For what it's worth, they are not case sensitive (a good thing, since the official casing for Samsung is actually SAMSUNG).
EDIT: Confirmation, "Nokia" does not work.
You're exactly right about which file I'm replacing (you can see that if you crack the XAP). I was looking to use the embedded provxml in MOConfig to do interop-unlock, but it looks like the process which reads that file doesn't have the required permissions. I could do something for the MO marketplaces too, but I'm really not sure there's value to it; do the MOs have apps that are useful if you're not a subscriber?
So far, no DRM wig-outs. I'm hoping it works when I don't mess with the registry. We shall see.
@derausgewanderte: This method doesn't use up unsigned app limit (aside from briefly, when the configuration app is installed). It also allows updates from the phone itself.
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@derausgewanderte: This method doesn't use up unsigned app limit (aside from briefly, when the configuration app is installed). It also allows updates from the phone itself.
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I see, thanks for the clarification.
just for your info. Milkman's program works with "Nokia" if that helps.
Thanks, but... neither "Nokia" nor "Dell" are working. It's rather annoying. Samsung I had the actual file to work from, but LG[E] I figured out on my own, and it works. Not so with Nokia or Dell though.
Nokia on the marketplace has the string nokia.
As this seems a nice hack, be very carefull with changing the OEM name of your phone. Doing this a couple of times will invalid something with the DRM and will force you to do a hard reset. You will not be able to run any app installed trough the MP otherwise and you will not be able to install anything.
I dont know for sure if the same thing would happen trough this method, but I'm not going to try it out. I tried it with editing the registry and if you do that about 5 times, your phone cant do anything without a hard reset.
I'm posting this to avoid problems, not to kill this hack. Because its defenetly good work, but before any complications arise, be warned.
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Nokia on the marketplace has the string nokia.
As this seems a nice hack, be very carefull with changing the OEM name of your phone. Doing this a couple of times will invalid something with the DRM and will force you to do a hard reset. You will not be able to run any app installed trough the MP otherwise and you will not be able to install anything.
I dont know for sure if the same thing would happen trough this method, but I'm not going to try it out. I tried it with editing the registry and if you do that about 5 times, your phone cant do anything without a hard reset.
I'm posting this to avoid problems, not to kill this hack. Because its defenetly good work, but before any complications arise, be warned.
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Yes yes please heed this warning. It happened to me.
I'm aware of the problem with the registry editing method. I can't guarantee it won't happen here (make sure you have a recent backup!) but I'm hopeful. I've made far more than 5 changes, and while I haven't had it in this state for weeks yet, I have for days, and so far no problems at all.
EDIT: @VoodooKing: Just to confirm, your problem was with the registry tweak method, right? If you hit that problem with these XAPs, please let me know.
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@voluptuary (again): Thanks for the OEM names. I'm pretty sure I tried "Nokia" and it didn't work, but I'm trying it again (I did the edit on the phone during testing, and that's pretty typo-prone). For what it's worth, they are not case sensitive (a good thing, since the official casing for Samsung is actually SAMSUNG).
EDIT: Confirmation, "Nokia" does not work.
You're exactly right about which file I'm replacing (you can see that if you crack the XAP). I was looking to use the embedded provxml in MOConfig to do interop-unlock, but it looks like the process which reads that file doesn't have the required permissions. I could do something for the MO marketplaces too, but I'm really not sure there's value to it; do the MOs have apps that are useful if you're not a subscriber?
So far, no DRM wig-outs. I'm hoping it works when I don't mess with the registry. We shall see.
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Yeah, I can't get Nokia to work either, however my Lumia 800 never had a "Nokia Marketplace" to begin with on the phone so that may have something to do with it. I think the other programs that have been mentioned are pulling apps in a slightly different way than what acctually happens on the phone. I would guess pehaps there is some handset ID matching or something on the phone marketplace whereas with the PC/Web based methods there isn't. (just guessing)
On a side note I tried setting the MOConfig to read only (like I said before) and while att's marketplace still sadly came back, it came back different. It used to be "AT&T AppCenter(tm)" now it reads "AT&T Featured" so that is odd. As for carrier app usefullness IMHO the at&t ones are garbage but I can't speak to any other carriers.
You have to search for Nokia apps in the marketplace for them to show up. There is no Nokia store.
Yes changing registry a few times caused my phone to not launch apps and install from marketplace. I think I changed the name more than 5 times.