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hello i'm an android user but i have great news for you. Microsoft released this kb article and this means that the first update for WP7 is almost here
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2484484/en-us
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hello i'm an android user but i have great news for you. Microsoft released this kb article and this means that the first update for WP7 is almost here
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2484484/en-us
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Old news, old... It was released some time ago...
yea it is a few days old, but thanks for sharing with us though and please keep us informed of anything more you may find. appreciate you taking the step to come and share with us, even if you aren't a windows phone user.
Yeah despite this being old, this is a big indication we could see the update between tomorrow and next week. I'm sure Microsoft wants to get the update out before or during MWC so they have something worthwhile to present there.
Also, I'm expecting details of that second update at the MIX 11 developers conference this year. After all, MS introduced WP7 at MWC and then went into more detail when MIX came around.
Perhaps 7th Feb
Ive read that the update will be out on the 7th Feb.
I wouldn't count on Feb. 7 date, it may happen but don't get your hopes up. This rumour reminds me of the MS CES tablet stuff that never really happened. The original blog that reported Feb. 7 didn't provide any proof did they?
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Ive read that the update will be out on the 7th Feb.
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AFAIK, this is correct, but it's predicted for the "week of the 7th" so it could be any time next week. Can confirm the update is with carriers around the world.
Can I ask a possibly dumb question? Why is everyone so pumped for an update?
It's just, I know it'll speed up apps loading, and add copy+paste, etc. But I mean, even without it, wp7 is such a smooth OS, I just don't know what the rush is in hoping for an "OMG UPDATEZZ!!!1!111". It's not like wp7 is broken right now, and only an update will make it useable. And honestly I've only needed to use copy/paste once, and even then it wasn't a big deal...
I suspect everyone will be quite disappointed by the update...
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Can I ask a possibly dumb question? Why is everyone so pumped for an update?
It's just, I know it'll speed up apps loading, and add copy+paste, etc. But I mean, even without it, wp7 is such a smooth OS, I just don't know what the rush is in hoping for an "OMG UPDATEZZ!!!1!111". It's not like wp7 is broken right now, and only an update will make it useable. And honestly I've only needed to use copy/paste once, and even then it wasn't a big deal...
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C & P alone is a big deal, but maybe it will fix other broken aspects of the OS like random hard-resets, messed up market, etc..
Credibility
landwomble said:
I suspect everyone will be quite disappointed by the update...
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I suspect that none of the features/fixes in the update, by themselves or taken as a whole, will be a "big deal". For many of us, this is a test of Microsofts credibility and support for this OS. The real question is, are they going to become responsive to their user base and make serious attempts to keep current with their competition? Most of us are waiting to see how often they release updates and whether the contents of those updates are valuable to their user base. We won't know that for a few updates I am sure.
orangekid said:
messed up market, etc..
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You know what, yeah I can see that. The marketplace freezing is verrrrry annoying. Makes me feel like I'm on 6.5 again.
And this...
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random hard-resets
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...frightens me a little. Haven't heard of that before.
The real signal that the update is coming soon is when the Zune and Mac clients are updated to make backups. That's what I'm most looking forward to. Up until now there's no way to back up text messages, files, or app data and I have a lot of stuff on my phone I'd like to protect.
I use the Samsung Focus. I've never had any Market place issues with freeze ups, Ive certainly never had a random hard reset. I've only wished hard, around 4 times since 11/8/10 that I could copy and paste. I also haven't been able to view 90% of the embedded videos on the web sites Ive visited (Flash?). I want an update.. like 3 weeks ago like the big boys at MS said I would. I want to have enough faith in MS that come next upgrade I feel excited to update my hardware not my OS.
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I use the Samsung Focus. I've never had any Market place issues with freeze ups, Ive certainly never had a random hard reset. I've only wished hard, around 4 times since 11/8/10 that I could copy and paste. I also haven't been able to view 90% of the embedded videos on the web sites Ive visited (Flash?). I want an update.. like 3 weeks ago like the big boys at MS said I would. I want to have enough faith in MS that come next upgrade I feel excited to update my hardware not my OS.
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No lags, no issues with Marketplace, no resets, no freezes, two instances when copy and paste would have been nice, but countless need for Flash. Waiting to see what MS comes through with, and then the frequency of followup updates.
JamesAllen said:
No lags, no issues with Marketplace, no resets, no freezes, two instances when copy and paste would have been nice, but countless need for Flash. Waiting to see what MS comes through with, and then the frequency of followup updates.
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thats primarily up to Adobe.... and now that their development is outsourced to India I don't put too much faith in them...
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thats primarily up to Adobe.... and now that their development is outsourced to India I don't put too much faith in them...
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What's wrong with India?
vetvito said:
What's wrong with India?
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It's more the outsourcing period...
I need update. So many things missing.
Countless c&p lacks, flash..... Eeeeh, it's so annoying.
Marketplace works like crap sometimes - just hangs.
Also some apps are laggy.
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What's wrong with India?
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Nothing wrong with the country, but I've seen several references to how outsourcing to low-cost countries really doesn't lower the development cost...Here in Norway, it seems most of the outsourced projects gets scrapped because they never finish. Might be because it's hard to delegate to people almost on the other side of the world, might be differences in cultures etc etc.
I don't put too much trust in outsourcing at all...unless the management actually spend time with the team.
Some good stuff coming up but having to wait for Fall is painful. They should have at least one update in the meantime to fix some of the known bugs.
Bummer.
WPCentral Summary of the keynote: http://www.wpcentral.com/wp7-keynote-summarised
Demos from MIX 11 by Channel9: http://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/Windows-Phone-7/Windows-Phone-7-Announcements--Demos-from-MIX-11-with-Joe-Belfiore
Engadget report with video: http://www.engadget.com/2011/04/13/this-is-windows-phone-next-developers-take-notes-video/
New Chassis unveiled: http://www.mobiletechworld.com/2011/04/14/new-windows-phone-7-chassis-unveiled-msm7x30-and-msm8x55/
Everything anybody has asked for - both user and developer side - were announced with the exception of voice navigation... I feel a lot of things have still been left unannounced... But wow, Joe's presentation was amazing tbh
Yeah I should put my phone in a box and get it out after Mango. I'm just tired of resetting my phone every few weeks to get my tiles and notifications working.
The future looks bright though.
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Peew971 said:
Yeah I should put my phone in a box and get it out after Mango. I'm just tired of resetting my phone every few weeks to get my tiles and notifications working.
The future looks bright though.
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While I understand the frustration... I think that's a bit extreme. I wouldn't worry about it, I doubt it'll take til Mango for a patch
You wanna take that bet? I say no patch before Mango, that's a sure win.
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I think its good that customers air some sense of urgency as it will keep MS on their feet. In business when your customers constantly nag you about your products or services it serves only to direct you towards improving said products. So if anything customers showing an interest in things being made better is good and even more so when they push for deadlines to be met
Is anyone going to consolidate all the WP7 anouncements from MiX11???
Or can someone post a link so other people can see some of the GREAT stuff thats coming to WP7
I was going to do that but I haven't seen a link with everything yet.
One interesting thing I picked up on Ch9Live was someone asked if Devs will get access to Mango on thier phones before its release.
The answer was that they are committed that registered developers with dev unlocked phones will have access to mango. They havent solved it yet, but are absolutly commited to it.
Peew971 said:
Yeah I should put my phone in a box and get it out after Mango. I'm just tired of resetting my phone every few weeks to get my tiles and notifications working.
The future looks bright though.
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lol @ resetting phone every few weeks
It's hard to consolidate everything because, frankly, that was a lot of info. And, furthermore, there's a lot to come yet - like it was mentioned briefly that there will be new pickers and choosers, but which ones is to be announced later.
Yeah, I think it will be a while before all the relivent info is pulled togather from MiX11.
I for one am quite excited about what snipits i've read so far with what is coming to WP7.
I used to be an android user back in the 1.6 hero day and saw how android has developed into arguable the biggest and best OS in smartphones.
I genuinly believe WP7 has the potential to challenege RiM, Apple, and Android and with all these great noises coming out from MiX 11 maybe just maybe it could dominate the WWWWWWWWORLD......MMMMMMMWAAAHAHAHAHA.....
One interesting point is that the dev tools for Mango are due to be released next month. In the Q&A session afterwards it was mentioned that a Mango build will be made available for developer-unlocked devices to allow testing of apps with the new SDK.
Microsoft is back on the track,these new features are amasing,very exciting about the conference today by joe belfiore
Good info here...
http://www.readwriteweb.com/mobile/2011/04/Mango-new-version-of-Windows-Phone-arriving-this-fall.php
So 6 months from now to update (Fall there is September, right?). If this is right, I'm assuming that the update is about to arrive at October.
The problem with that, is wait for new APIs. I want Whatsapp!
Ah, btw, nothing was mentioned about Windows Live Messenger. That is sad.
whats this live tiles thjing about? My HTC doesnt have this problem, is it specific mobiles?
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I think its good that customers air some sense of urgency as it will keep MS on their feet. In business when your customers constantly nag you about your products or services it serves only to direct you towards improving said products. So if anything customers showing an interest in things being made better is good and even more so when they push for deadlines to be met
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Despite universal *****ing about the nodo update ballsup, all MSFT has done is post a page that essentially says "coming soon..." with no mention of when "soon" is. So unless we all cancel our contracts, return our devices and stop buying anything remotely connected to MSFT, I doubt we'll see anything more responsive out of Redmond.
Subtle doesn't work on heads that thick. Upside the head with a crowbar might, if it's King Kong doing it.
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Despite universal *****ing about the nodo update ballsup, all MSFT has done is post a page that essentially says "coming soon..." with no mention of when "soon" is. So unless we all cancel our contracts, return our devices and stop buying anything remotely connected to MSFT, I doubt we'll see anything more responsive out of Redmond.
Subtle doesn't work on heads that thick. Upside the head with a crowbar might, if it's King Kong doing it.
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Hehe crow bar to the head of any one operating inefficiently would be my rememdy as well But joking aside, you do have a point in that the "coming soon" or "TBA" or "TDA" of alot of things to do with WP7 is frustrating. I think the only way consumers can ensure MS stays on track and does release any information is to keep asking "when will feature A or B be released" or "when is patch D going to be pushed out" it may be subtle but negative press that is garnered by constant negative exposure does help companies see where they are doing things wrong and where they can fix things.
WP7 after Mango is released and implemented will mark a milestone in its growth. It will no longer have the excuse "we are the new kid on the block and need time to catch up" no, after Mango they have to focus their efforts on improving communication with operators and oems so updates push out better, faster and efficiently, this Pre-Nodo/NoDo fiasco will not look good in 2012 if say the next batch of update (Guava, Tomato or whatever it will called) encounters nodo problems in a post mango age.
So for now let keep those crow bars under the bed and in a few months if no changes then we can make a field trip down to redmond with crow bars in hand Piaqt
Anyone know what phone he was using for showing the gyro api? Was it the htc pro or hd7? Do our phones have gyro sensors built in?
Btw, loved the presentation , the quantas app was brilliant
Here we sit knee deep in August hoping that the next update will bridge the gap between our device of choice and other platforms. Currently there are rumors flying about that the platform's salvation comes September 1st in the form of the Mango update. Further down the line their is talk of a Tango update. All of this encouraging considering most of us bought into a product they we can all safetly say was in beta form of what was being promise. While the reviews thus far have been good one can only hope these milestones do not dissapoint. Follow the link below for more. http://www.l337ware.com/
Bro I made a nice informational thread about the release of two Xbox games minesweeper and Sudoku and somebody deleted my thread... And here is your near spam thread with link to a website which links back to a thread on xda forums itself and it stays.
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First off "Mango Tango" sounds utterly cool. Second don't hate. Lastly How many similiar post were there? Because honestly I saw like a grip talking about the free release. Like XDA kinda got bombarded. I wouldn't take it personally. I can delete this post if it would make you feel better.
Note : There were about 400+ people interested enough in the subject material. After reading this if they so decided moved on to the link and which linked an XDA master post about the core unpolished material though not in redundancy to the my original post (along with various other options). I see those numbers on my end and it was significant. Realize my site is a non profit entity which honestly I dont really care if anyone visits but I share stuff with this forum. Do you realize how many duplicate posts I probably just staved off? Also I've been on these forums since the PPC 6600 and did ask the powers that be about establishing a relationship between the two sites.
Awesome ... I don't have a account in other PSA forums orelse I wld share
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Why do people continue to call the WinPhone release a beta? It was in final form for its 1.0 release, it wasn't a beta because it lacked features which got you all upset. Would we all have preferred other features? Of course, but to say it was in beta is ridiculous. I guess iOS and Android are in beta because they don't support Live Messenger or Facebook in their messaging services.
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Why do people continue to call the WinPhone release a beta? It was in final form for its 1.0 release, it wasn't a beta because it lacked features which got you all upset. Would we all have preferred other features? Of course, but to say it was in beta is ridiculous. I guess iOS and Android are in beta because they don't support Live Messenger or Facebook in their messaging services.
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No, we call it a beta because alot ot things are broken and or missing. The OS can't hold up to intensive use and alot of things that were hyped up were never delivered in it's initial release.
Missing? They weren't missing, just weren't part of the 1.0 release
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FiyaFleye said:
Missing? They weren't missing, just weren't part of the 1.0 release
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The OS working wasn't part of the 1.0 release. Perfect example the inevitable lock up that would occur requiring reset of the phone after scrolling through the market place with any frequency other than brief. That is one of like a thousand problems not all of which have been addressed even now. Don't get me wrong I'm a Microsoft nut. From gaming console, to PC, to Tablet, and finally to phone but even I have to concede the Q&A on WP7's initial release sucked. It's one of the reasons my wife ditched her HD7 and will probably never come back to the OS.
Bugs do occur in release products, doesn't make it beta... All software in this world is in beta according to your logic.
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There are standards applied to a final release. I'd almost dare saying Windows Phone was alot like Vista at it's release. It lacked the polish of a finished product.
maybe those are hd7 bugs? i never had any issues with v1, nor do my friends have. there is the occasional lock-up that is about once every other month. same as on an iphone for me.
it worked, delivered the promised functionality, and had a good feature set FOR A PHONE. yes, not for the "i actually want everything possible i could do on my laptop, too, and it should make me coffee, too" nerd type. but for the typical PHONE usage (you know, sms, calls, browsing the web a bit, doing some smarter things like mail, people management, dates and stuff), it worked pretty well. now on mango, there's much more, of course. but v1 worked, and it did well. still does for my friends. good enough to not have to pre-update them to mango. they like what they see on my phone, but are happy enough to not bother about pre-updating manually.
tang so slow
im using tango from Unlocked_CustROM_Mozart_Mango_7720.68 by ansar and its so slowly whats is the problem?
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im using tango from Unlocked_CustROM_Mozart_Mango_7720.68 by ansar and its so slowly whats is the problem?
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This thread is in regards to the future windows phone OS update Tango, while I believe you are referring to the video calling software for WP7.5 called Tango.
Basically, wrong thread mate.
From the day wp7 released, the next release is always hyped up and touted as 'the' release to use. Similar thing happened when Microsoft showed a sneak peek of Mango 6 months before release and people started saying that everybody should wait for mango phones. Now WP8 details have leaked and everybody says we must wait for next gen phones to buy. This seems to be an ideal case of Osborne effect, where an announcement of a future version ahead of its availability impacts sales of the current generation. What do you guys think ?
p.s : To people who have not heard about this, check out in wikipedia about osborne effect. Since i am a newbie i am not allowed to paste links in the thread.
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From the day wp7 released, the next release is always hyped up and touted as 'the' release to use. Similar thing happened when Microsoft showed a sneak peek of Mango 6 months before release and people started saying that everybody should wait for mango phones. Now WP8 details have leaked and everybody says we must wait for next gen phones to buy. This seems to be an ideal case of Osborne effect, where an announcement of a future version ahead of its availability impacts sales of the current generation. What do you guys think ?
p.s : To people who have not heard about this, check out in wikipedia about osborne effect. Since i am a newbie i am not allowed to paste links in the thread.
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rstheboss said:
From the day wp7 released, the next release is always hyped up and touted as 'the' release to use. Similar thing happened when Microsoft showed a sneak peek of Mango 6 months before release and people started saying that everybody should wait for mango phones. Now WP8 details have leaked and everybody says we must wait for next gen phones to buy. This seems to be an ideal case of Osborne effect, where an announcement of a future version ahead of its availability impacts sales of the current generation. What do you guys think ?
p.s : To people who have not heard about this, check out in wikipedia about osborne effect. Since i am a newbie i am not allowed to paste links in the thread.
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Quite true. WP was rushed to the market and it's still lacking,
so it's the only way to promote it really.
doministry said:
Quite true. WP was rushed to the market and it's still lacking,
so it's the only way to promote it really.
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Lol, dude, don't you get tired of making the same pathetically repetitive posts over and over and over. We get it, it lacks in your eyes.
Anyway, OP, I think that's every platform. I'm sure a lot of people aren't buying Kinect sensors now waiting for Kinect 2, etc.
Its called Marketing, and it happens everywhere, including on other phone platforms and even phones. So... nothing new.
ummm no it doesn't happen on other phone platforms.
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Um yes they do. Look at apple. You think engineers can really take prototypes to a bar and lose them? Not with apples Nazi like control. what MS should do though is make the statement official that all 2nd generation phones will do Apollo so peeps don't wait.
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vetvito said:
ummm no it doesn't happen on other phone platforms.
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It doesn't happen on android because android is completely fragmented. Phones are still being sold with versions of the OS from two years ago. The difference is they are all called "Android OS" no matter which version is on it. Only tech savvy know there is a difference in versions.
Apple, has a schedule'ish they follow for updates.
People are dumb and they forget that new things are always around the corner. I pre-ordered 5 Lumia 900s and we're going to enjoy the **** out of them all year at least, probably a lot longer.
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ummm no it doesn't happen on other phone platforms.
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Android 4.0 is out. Now go look at all the Android phones selling every day (millions or something) and ask yourself which OS is on them?
I don't want to make this thread into a os war but what I meant was that windows phone 7 is the only os about which people are always excited about the next release and not the present. Nobody suggests to buy wp7 now because there is always something to wait for the next. I am aware that the leak about wp8 may not be intentional but it definitely affects phones like lumia 900. People who would have upgraded from first gen windows phones for the look and feel of nokia, will now wait and suggest the same to their friends - Wait for the next flagship. Nokia 1000 maybe ?
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Its called Marketing, and it happens everywhere, including on other phone platforms and even phones. So... nothing new.
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I am talking about an unintentional leak of wp8. Not the marketing for current crop of phones. Any sane tech guy would suggest new buyers asking for advice to wait for wp8 or buy some other phones after this leak and the coverage/hype it got.
Ha. Now a blog post about the same topic in WMPOWERUSER with same osbourne effect exactly a couple of hours i started this thread. I think they read every other thread discussed here for their blog posts.
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Nobody suggests to buy wp7 now because there is always something to wait for the next.
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I disagree. Looking at the threads where people are asking which WP to buy, I can't see people saying "wait for Windows Phone 8". Eight months is a long time to wait for a smartphone. Maybe the situation could be different if you already have a Windows Phone.
Also, I think this will affect iPhone more than Windows Phone. Over the next six months, I think you'll see more coverage / rumors about iPhone 5 than WP8.
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I don't want to make this thread into a os war but what I meant was that windows phone 7 is the only os about which people are always excited about the next release and not the present. Nobody suggests to buy wp7 now because there is always something to wait for the next. I am aware that the leak about wp8 may not be intentional but it definitely affects phones like lumia 900. People who would have upgraded from first gen windows phones for the look and feel of nokia, will now wait and suggest the same to their friends - Wait for the next flagship. Nokia 1000 maybe ?
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NOPE. Rubbish.
Go look at those threads asking for which windows phone to buy?
I don't think a single post apart from the trolls would suggest waiting for next upgrade. Instead people are even suggesting Gen1 WP like HD7 or Samsung Focus. The non-android approach of WP where all handsets get upgrade for 2 years makes it a dead easy choice. Buy ANY one you like, the software will upgrade along with the release.
Hardware wise - yes unless you want NFC, Dual Cores - you would want to wait. Unlike iOS, there are huge screen, small screens, S-LCD, AMOLED, more than one OEM, different prices, different looks, same OS, same apps. Don't see what retard would want to suggest to wait, unless he owned/owns an android.
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Ha. Now a blog post about the same topic in WMPOWERUSER with same osbourne effect exactly a couple of hours i started this thread. I think they read every other thread discussed here for their blog posts.
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I doubt it. The issue is being discuss on a number for forums.
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I am talking about an unintentional leak of wp8. Not the marketing for current crop of phones. Any sane tech guy would suggest new buyers asking for advice to wait for wp8 or buy some other phones after this leak and the coverage/hype it got.
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I understand your point. Some people are just argumentative and ready to bash a non confirming view.
Perfect example just the responses in this thread.
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Android 4.0 is out. Now go look at all the Android phones selling every day (millions or something) and ask yourself which OS is on them?
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What does that have to do with the topic?
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I disagree. Looking at the threads where people are asking which WP to buy, I can't see people saying "wait for Windows Phone 8". Eight months is a long time to wait for a smartphone. Maybe the situation could be different if you already have a Windows Phone.
Also, I think this will affect iPhone more than Windows Phone. Over the next six months, I think you'll see more coverage / rumors about iPhone 5 than WP8.
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Reguardless of wether it effects the waiting og the ios devices, every single one of them will buy.... another iphone. 4SS, 5, whatever. Its a very simple decision.
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I am talking about an unintentional leak of wp8. Not the marketing for current crop of phones. Any sane tech guy would suggest new buyers asking for advice to wait for wp8 or buy some other phones after this leak and the coverage/hype it got.
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I still see that exact same scenario with every platform, more so on Android than any other.
That being said, there is ALWAYS something better around the corner. But Windows Phone and iOS are two of the few platforms where anyone sane can say that you can get a phone now and be pretty certain that the next update or iteration can run on it. That was a major point of Windows Phone from the start, and if you are seeing the opposite, then you are probably talking to or reading threads from people who know nothing about the platform.
There is really only one platform where I tell people specifically that there is always something newer and shinier around the corner, and that's Android. Fragmentation of the platform, uncertainty about future updates and manufacturer/carrier support, along with the fact that everyone and their mother is churning out tons of different hardware at absolutely unprecedented rates are chief reasons for saying so.
Also, you've got to remember that Windows Phone being a young platform, you're going to have a lot of people talking more about its potential because it is early in it's lifetime. The same thing happened with Android and iOS. The Internet was absolutely buzzing with the potential of both platforms as they both grew and matured. Now that both platforms have somewhat matured, you don't have as much talk about the future and their potential as you used to (but it certainly still happens). The same will be for Windows Phone. As Microsoft develops and continues to expand its platform, people are going to continue to talk about its potential and its future until it gets mature enough where you won't see huge, major changes. Where every update the biggest change will be the version number, more so than the features of the platform.
Of course people are excited for Windows Phone's future and want to talk about it, but there are also many people very happy with it right now as well, its just more fun to talk about the "what ifs" and the "what could be".
Wait till something leaks about iOS 6 or Android 5.0, the same buzz about its potential and future will spike. As usual.
So again, nothing new.
Please provide a link or source to other platforms talking about a new update a half a year before release. Please.
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OK, I feel the need to publically rant about my nexus 7 (sorry, utterly useless topic)
I'm tired of acting as a beta tester when I buy consumer electronics. The problems with multitouch on my nexus 7 32gb were hiliarious for about 10 secs. I don't even want to try out the various bootloaders to try to fix it software-wize. This kind of problem should not have happened in the first place, AT ALL. How the hell do these products get quality checked before being sold, seriously ? Multitouch is THE main and basic feature of such devices, how on Earth can it not be perfect out of box ?
I was wondering by the way : has Apple ever had any problems with the multitouch on its phones ? I've actually rarely had any apple phones / tablets in my hand, but each single time, the touch response was way better than any android device out there. How come ? (please don't tell me : "ok f* off and go apple already", it's an open question, I'm curious).
Also, this tablet being my first experience in the tablet world, Google clearly hasn't made up its mind if it's to be considered as a tablet or as a biggish phone. Gmail, for one, in portrait looks as stupid as Tapatalk 4 with its massive side menu you can't ever swipe away. I want a damn TABLET experience.
So the nexus 7 is going back to the shop, and I'll wait for some other device, which may be a long time, as I cannot imagine buying anything else than nexus (Can't bare manufacturer devices that already aren't supported anymore after being on the market for >4months).
I sicked of being played around, and tired of all this nonsense. :/
Cheers. have a wonderful weekend. (and "Bon courage !" to all of you nexus7 users, I'm out)
Don't buy Nexus devices if you are going to throw hissy fits over bugs
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z0phi3l said:
Don't buy Nexus devices if you are going to throw hissy fits over bugs
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What's your point ? Nexus devices are supposed to be an especially reliable plateform for Android app programmers, not a vast google beta program for it's own developers !! (I'm talking about the basic hardware features here, not advanced / beta features in google apps)
OP, i'd say... who cares? You said yourself its stupid thread so why do you bother to start it anyway?
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Developer devices don't have to be stable, they are a baseline to work with, no one have any guarantees that they would be consumer level qualify or stable, buying a Nexus device means you are part time beta testing
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Developer devices don't have to be stable, they are a baseline to work with, no one have any guarantees that they would be consumer level qualify or stable, buying a Nexus device means you are part time beta testing
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The nexus 7 is sold in all consumer electronic stores, as is any Samsung, Sony,... products. Clearly it's not "beta hardware" anymore...
z0phi3l said:
Developer devices don't have to be stable, they are a baseline to work with, no one have any guarantees that they would be consumer level qualify or stable, buying a Nexus device means you are part time beta testing
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Seriously? They sold a bunch of devices and all "buyers" should be developers only? If I buy a device then the basic features must work. Nothing more nothing less, also if I am a developer the device must work.
User_99 said:
Seriously? They sold a bunch of devices and all "buyers" should be developers only? If I buy a device then the basic features must work. Nothing more nothing less, also if I am a developer the device must work.
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I'd even say, a developer would require EXTRA STABLE hardware in order to program without having hardware bugs mixing with his own apps' bugs...
when you first discovered the issue did you try to return it? Have you read about the issue before purchasing it?
why not get an apple device, just curious.
I completely agree with you with all these problems with the Nexus 7, but for its price and speed compared to the iPad mini, I'll stick with my Nexus 7 since the problems are bearable for me.
While I agree with the OP in principle, almost everything in the computing industry is that way any more. There is such pressure to get new hardware/software out the door, that all vendors are putting stuff out before it is truly ready. I don't think Google is any more guilty of this than any other technology vendor. I've seen stuff a LOT more screwed up than the N7.
IMO there is an 80-90% chance most, if not all, of your touch issues can be resolved in 10 minutes using this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2428133
Of course you won't have the pleasure of ranting.
Your choice.
That is why I always wait at least a month before I buy something. That ways I can see if there is any problems with the first run. With the New Nexus 7 I new there was going to be issues with multi touch and I haven't had any problems with it yet. The only problem I have had so far is the keyboard sometimes freezes while I type. Not a big deal to me. No matter what electronic device you buy, there will always be something that will go wrong with it. I'm loving the New Nexus 7 so far. Just sad to see someone get discouraged over something that could be fixed by software. Enjoy your next tablet that you get.
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I think it's an Asus thing rather than Google's fault, though u could argue it's Google's fault for going with aids...
phentex said:
OK, I feel the need to publically rant about my nexus 7 (sorry, utterly useless topic)
I'm tired of acting as a beta tester when I buy consumer electronics. The problems with multitouch on my nexus 7 32gb were hiliarious for about 10 secs. I don't even want to try out the various bootloaders to try to fix it software-wize. This kind of problem should not have happened in the first place, AT ALL. How the hell do these products get quality checked before being sold, seriously ? Multitouch is THE main and basic feature of such devices, how on Earth can it not be perfect out of box ?
I was wondering by the way : has Apple ever had any problems with the multitouch on its phones ? I've actually rarely had any apple phones / tablets in my hand, but each single time, the touch response was way better than any android device out there. How come ? (please don't tell me : "ok f* off and go apple already", it's an open question, I'm curious).
Also, this tablet being my first experience in the tablet world, Google clearly hasn't made up its mind if it's to be considered as a tablet or as a biggish phone. Gmail, for one, in portrait looks as stupid as Tapatalk 4 with its massive side menu you can't ever swipe away. I want a damn TABLET experience.
So the nexus 7 is going back to the shop, and I'll wait for some other device, which may be a long time, as I cannot imagine buying anything else than nexus (Can't bare manufacturer devices that already aren't supported anymore after being on the market for >4months).
I sicked of being played around, and tired of all this nonsense. :/
Cheers. have a wonderful weekend. (and "Bon courage !" to all of you nexus7 users, I'm out)
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Shuddup
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phentex said:
OK, I feel the need to publically rant about my nexus 7 (sorry, utterly useless topic)
I'm tired of acting as a beta tester when I buy consumer electronics. The problems with multitouch on my nexus 7 32gb were hiliarious for about 10 secs. I don't even want to try out the various bootloaders to try to fix it software-wize. This kind of problem should not have happened in the first place, AT ALL. How the hell do these products get quality checked before being sold, seriously ? Multitouch is THE main and basic feature of such devices, how on Earth can it not be perfect out of box ?
I was wondering by the way : has Apple ever had any problems with the multitouch on its phones ? I've actually rarely had any apple phones / tablets in my hand, but each single time, the touch response was way better than any android device out there. How come ? (please don't tell me : "ok f* off and go apple already", it's an open question, I'm curious).
Also, this tablet being my first experience in the tablet world, Google clearly hasn't made up its mind if it's to be considered as a tablet or as a biggish phone. Gmail, for one, in portrait looks as stupid as Tapatalk 4 with its massive side menu you can't ever swipe away. I want a damn TABLET experience.
So the nexus 7 is going back to the shop, and I'll wait for some other device, which may be a long time, as I cannot imagine buying anything else than nexus (Can't bare manufacturer devices that already aren't supported anymore after being on the market for >4months).
I sicked of being played around, and tired of all this nonsense. :/
Cheers. have a wonderful weekend. (and "Bon courage !" to all of you nexus7 users, I'm out)
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Let's be honest here, you can always find a flaw in each phone/tablet out in the market. Everything comes down to your personal preference and your ability to accept certain flaws. Even ipads/iphones have their own set of issues. It may not be multi touch issues but there are some other issues.
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I dont have any issues. None that you describe. Then again, I'm not an end user. Which you sound like. Nothing wrong with that. But you bought something for power users and devs. Not Gramma's and Hippsters..
I change the things out with other things that give me issues or that I don't like and I have full control of the tablet. Something you'll harldy get elsewhere.
But thats not what you want. You want rock stable. So buy an Apple. (which has its own issues, But thats not where I am going) or a windows slate...Muahahahahahahahahahaha....Sorry, there really is no place to go that doesn't have some kind of issue. Maybe Buy a chalk board. Those haven't had many issues in like 100+ years.
I love how everyone has their own way of fighting with OP. He wasn't trying to engage a fight simply saying that the Nexus had too many problems for his liking. I was very very close to leaving as well myself. If there was any comparable alternative I would have been gone long ago.
Why do you guys make excuses for Google? Nexus is for developers only? LOL guess u think this site is developers only too. Sure, stuff happens when your factory is in China... But this is excessive..
There needs to be accountability and quick corrective action (Google has taken some action, but not enough yet.) if we sit here and accept whatever garbage is fed to us, we will always be fed garbage simply because they can.
berardi said:
LOL guess u think this site is developers only too. \.
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Tell you what, PM a mod and ask them this question. I bet you find out real quick how wrong you are. This site is only for developers. Everyone else is allowed to post because they allow it. You must be newer. When I joined if you even posted a topic such as this you'd one get ignored or flammed into oblivion and two most likely warned or straight up banned.
You fail to realize that without the devs this site is just a....forum.
The name of the forum is; XDA (delevelopers).....
Really some of you ppl...
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Tell you what, PM a mod and ask them this question. I bet you find out real quick how wrong you are. This site is only for developers. Everyone else is allowed to post because they allow it. You must be newer. When I joined if you even posted a topic such as this you'd one get ignored or flammed into oblivion and two most likely warned or straight up banned.
You fail to realize that without the devs this site is just a....forum.
The name of the forum is; XDA (delevelopers).....
Really some of you ppl...
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Xda developers, yes... How many people are developing for Xda? I guess we should all be banned. What kind of statement are u making did you even think before you post?
Yeah, maybe a mod thinks this site is only for developers... But I would like to see the reaction on the site owners face if you told him they have banned all non developers. Ad revenue instantly = 0
Historically the site was started for developers maybe but now I guarantee 90% of site content cannot be considered development. Unless you consider a million replies asking where to download Gapp zip for paranoid android development....
Stuff like the OP doesn't belong Development forum, but can you blame the guy for posting here? I went through 20 Nexus only to find out that it was a firmware issue. Google messed up royally...