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HTC HD7 spec sheet and more pics

Damn... Who does not want this anymore after reading the spec sheet?
Pics
http://wmpoweruser.com/htc-hd7-in-real-pictures-looks-great-kickstand-on-display/
Pics
http://wmpoweruser.com/exclusive-htc-hd7-full-specs-revealed-confirms-t-mobile-usa-aws-support/
Specs
http://wmpoweruser.com/htc-hd7-specs-leak-with-tiny-picture-we-have-a-better-one/
Sad day for me.

Hopefully and probably fake.
The HTC HD series has always been their Top of the line phone, and I don't think that they'll release a phone that is an exact copy of the aging Desire hardwarewise. Espesially not when Qualcomm is delivering new, updated Snapdragon processors that's both more energy efficient and faster.
And 8GB memory? That'll be very tight for anyone planning to use their phone for media.

The specifications sheet might only be a placeholder until HTC officially announces the HD3/HD7... At least I hope so... And hope dies last!

I really hope this is a fake! Surely they wouldn't release a near copy if not inferior phone to the last model of thier flagship model!?

I have had my hTc hd2 leo since April, and it was my first smartphone. It took 3 solid days to get accustomed to the new frontier (mine was and still is a bit buggy), and no, I am too scared to flash ROMS just yet.
Although I have a TON of themes and other custom eye candy upgrades. I love cabs btw.
Anyways, if XDA were a woman I would make sweet love to it, but these conflicting reports are really bad.
Is it or is it not real?
I have a feeling that much like me most leo owners are gonna keep theirs even when newer HTC models arrive. Great hardware and an awesome crew of chefs will assure the popularity. I could be wrong, but that is my opinion.
a forward facing camera is about the only thing...oh, flash too, that I wish my dear leo had.
so, until there is solid evidence of the new phone XDA should be a bit more dilligent about moderating the posting real info because noobs like me confuse easily...

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They simply use and unblock with software some "features" of the Qualcomm chipset. Infact, if you look datasheet of Qualcomm 8250 you will see that he can record 720p video and have a 12mpx camera sensor inside..so the new economy is still use an "old" platform in brand new devices for show to us a sort of new model. I think that if HD2 today is still in the smartphone top-ten, we must say thanks to his versatility. Maybe HTC wasn't know 1 years ago that this device will be a miliar stone. Today we have android, winmo 6.5 and very probabily the new brand new WP7. We need other.?
And we must remember that also with the newest radio version, our HD2 received an increase of battey life. We have only trust in the time and in XDA Dev.
Best Regards

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Spec sheet aside, the external design is just flat out disappointing and underwhelming. What happened to the aluminum unibody on the other leaked phones? Why does that not carry over to flagship device? Instead we get this tacky looking plastic back.
I mean, it's just as if HTC said, "Let's take the HD2, remove the metal on the back, and remove the buttons on the front... and give it a kickstand because people love that s**t."
I can't make judgments until I actually hold the device, but so far, it doesn't look promising.
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^this too.

i love my hd2 , unless this phone blows my hd2 away ....it aint happening ,lets see closed platform and less storage .......NOT , ill stick with my hd2

All we need is a chef to move this to our HD2!

I will absolutely stick with an HD2 over the HD3. I don't think I'm going to like WP7, so I hope someone can get that OS on the HD2, just so I can play with it. It just seems too iPhone-ish to me.

Symbian seems kind an old system with others leaving it. ATT & Windows both closed systems. Android an open system where it appears to be growing. I'm just a runt though I learned & still use windows w/my PC but my Droid 2 still not comepletly rooted works OK, so I don't see myself using a WM 7 anytime soon.

I'm really not liking how all the confirmed WP7 devices will be sporting the first gen snapdragon processor (im assuming with the underpformating Adreno 200 GPU as well). In saying that, I'm still gonna wait til it is officially unveiled, if you guys don't remember, when the HD2 was leaked, it was said to have 320mb RAM.. it ended up having 448/576 instead, so theres still some hope.
If it remains, I'll be waiting for the samsung specs to pop out, hopefully hummingbird/SGX540 CPU/GPU combo.

Cruzer1 said:
If it remains, I'll be waiting for the samsung specs to pop out, hopefully hummingbird/SGX540 CPU/GPU combo.
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This is not going to happen. There's one thing that's worse than a previous generation processor though - a new processor with drivers and software that cannot use it.

If the specs are right then it looks like those of us with a HD2 will probably be able to try WP7 sooner rather than later. As I don't want a new phone to be tempting me I am pretty happy about this

vangrieg said:
This is not going to happen. There's one thing that's worse than a previous generation processor though - a new processor with drivers and software that cannot use it.
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How do you know there aren't working drivers? They are working perfectly on Android atm at least.

(For the dreamers of the 1st Gen, I wish you best of luck).

vangrieg said:
This is not going to happen. There's one thing that's worse than a previous generation processor though - a new processor with drivers and software that cannot use it.
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All WP7 has are minimum requirements. i.e. ARMv7 Cortex/Scorpion or better... weird since last time i checked, the QSD8250 is not from the Scorpion family, and is only loosely related to the Cortex family (so spec changes could still occur imo).
Back to the point, if the Sammy were to have the Hummingbird/SGX540 combo, it still fullfills the minimum requirements (hummingbird is an ARMv7 Cortex CPU, so WP7 should support it). Last I heard, was that OEM's were to provide the GPU drivers, so if Sammy can make it work, that'd be awesome.

It was announced that all WP7 devices will be based on the same chip initially.

vangrieg said:
It was announced that all WP7 devices will be based on the same chip initially.
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Ouch. That's ruined my day

[Q] Wait until Feb 2011 for a new WM7 Phone?

Hey,
is it a good idea to wait until next year (approx. Feb) for a new WM7 Phone from HTC, or not? I do not know, if there will be a better CPU or else. I know that Qualcom will bring a new CPU Generation but it will be in 2012. And for 2011 I read something about a 1,3GHz or a DualCore 1,5GHz CPU. Is it true? Is it worth the wait?
ne0n

There is always reason to wait. If you wait for 3-4 years more you even can get a WP8 with quad core 3Hz CPU.

Wait
Wait, while Windows Phone 7 is easier to use... they've limited it like an iphone... so u gotta use Zune, no easy internet sharing, no expandable memory, etc.
Also remember that Windows Update program on your mobile... when has Microsoft EVER issued an update on it. It's worth waiting till feburary to see if Microsoft do deliver on their promise to easily allow updating of the phone OS. Also to see if they've made is a feature rich as Windows Phone 6.5 (or even 5.1 ).
New phones will prob be out in Feb too... fingers crossed they have expandable storage as thats making Windows Phone 7 a 'no, no' for me straight away... plus I'm enjoying Remote Desktop and drag and dropping of audio/video files on my TouchHD still (something you can't do on Windows Phone 7 as it works like the annoying iphone system... your forced to put everything though Zune ....) . Zune is a great program but I don't wanna reencode vids etc or Microsoft forcing me to use a particular program... I thought only Apple do that!
Anywoo, i'm babbling. Wait till Feb- new phones, you'll have a better idea of what is hacked for us power-users, you'll know if Microsoft use their own phone update system or not, and if they add expandable storage... as it looks like they've removed removable storage to make it more likely you'll pay to use their 'Zune' monthly subscription to stream it over the internet.

@agentnobo
I know, this is the reason way I say until Feb 2011. I talk about a period of a few weeks. It will be very annoying to buy a new phone and in 5 weeks there will be a next generation or something else. As an example: It wasn't important to wait for a new Core 2 Quad becaus it will be 2,88GHz and not 2,66GHz but if you buy a C2Q and 4 weeks later Intel drop the new i7 Generation it will be annoying.
@acecooper
Thx

ne0n said:
Hey,
is it a good idea to wait until next year (approx. Feb) for a new WM7 Phone from HTC, or not? I do not know, if there will be a better CPU or else. I know that Qualcom will bring a new CPU Generation but it will be in 2012. And for 2011 I read something about a 1,3GHz or a DualCore 1,5GHz CPU. Is it true? Is it worth the wait?
ne0n
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considering these phones just came out, I don't think you will see new phones in february. My guess is they may announce some things at mobile world congress but the phones probably won't make it to consumers until summer.

The phones are really fast with the current hardware. I don't see any reason to wait for new hardware right now unless you don't like any of the current phones.

I'd wait for the updates...
I'm waiting until after the promised updates arrive... I sent my Focus back to AT&T because of missing functionality and will wait to see if the issues are resolved with the updates.

Ren13B said:
The phones are really fast with the current hardware. I don't see any reason to wait for new hardware right now unless you don't like any of the current phones.
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Maybe to get better multimedia experience (like better photo and video shoots), as usual it is always a weak point of our beloved phones...

Lol @ February, isn't the first update coming in January?

Aren't the second batch of WP7 phones (the Blackberry type) or 'chassis 2' coming in Q1 next year.
I doubt the internal spec's will change.

I will probably wait longer.
As WM user I hardly imagine working with this devices at this state,
it's not available in Poland anyway.
Today my carrier gave me X10/Android and I'm also interested in trying this
but bummer: I have to have Gmail account to use it, which I don't have (horrid!)

Probably will see new phones coming out in 3-4 months. Hardware internals will not change(processor, etc...). I'd expect to see bigger and better screens and more memory...
The bigger thing you have to ask yourself if you like windows phone 7...personally I think it completely rocks...yeah it's missing a couple of features that they have to fix but they will. I've been told there will be an update the first 2 weeks of January and continually after that.
I think MS is on to a winner, they just need to do a better job at marketing (so far I'm shocked at how bad they are doing with all the money they have) and they need HTC to put up their a-game and not release the crap they have released so far...

aquamoeba said:
Maybe to get better multimedia experience (like better photo and video shoots), as usual it is always a weak point of our beloved phones...
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Decent phones have good cameras.
Maybe you want 1080p video recording? Lol.
It's usually a weak point of the phonse becaue the phones are phones first, miniature computers second, and cameras/video recorders third.
Better to have a crappy camera than drop 20% of you calls, or have applications force closing left and right, eh?

Galaxy S II with WP7 ahhh

Granted I haven't had my hand on the new Samsung Galaxy SII but looking at (I hate to say engadget review on the hardware) I think this would be an ultimate flagship design for wp7 (I know the processor hasn't been approved) but man that device looks nice and I have been very happy with my focus for a while now I am wanting this bad boy (am I bad I have had an HTC for the last 6yrs).

Mental diarrhea sprayed onto an XDA post. Nice work!

dreaming is not diarrhea lol
The Os performs great with the current standards if they are going to make a tiered version (which they will if Nokia intends on making a low cost wp7) why not make a high dollar one?

Yes its android its gud
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Actually, watching the video on Engadget, it still lags (Android I mean)...

Yes, GS2 with WP7 FTW!
I think GS2 is currently the ultimate phone.

amtrakcn said:
Yes, GS2 with WP7 FTW!
I think GS2 is currently the ultimate phone.
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Yeah, the specs are nice...but it's ugly, as was the Galaxy S
Why can't the do a design like the Galaxy S had in the Gorgio Armani edition? Or something like the SE X10?
The Omnia7 is the only Samsung high-end phone that looks good (could be better but at least it has edges and isn't rounded everywhere).

skycamefalling said:
Yeah, the specs are nice...but it's ugly, as was the Galaxy S
Why can't the do a design like the Galaxy S had in the Gorgio Armani edition? Or something like the SE X10?
The Omnia7 is the only Samsung high-end phone that looks good (could be better but at least it has edges and isn't rounded everywhere).
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So you like Captivate

amtrakcn said:
So you like Captivate
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Yeah, that one looks like the Armani Edition -really nice. I may have ended up with Android when the Galaxy S in Austria looked like this. So I waited for a decent phone and finally ended up with the Omnia7...it has been a good decision after all

kapanak said:
Actually, watching the video on Engadget, it still lags (Android I mean)...
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if you notice, he's doing a full screen screen capture, while using the camera, with sound, in720p, I wouldn't call that lag, I'd call it awesome.

ohgood said:
if you notice, he's doing a full screen screen capture, while using the camera, with sound, in720p, I wouldn't call that lag, I'd call it awesome.
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I think he means in normal operations the lag is there. Which it is, let's be real. Android lags, till google changes their h/w graphics acceleration, that won't be changing
That said, I was thinking that wp7 may need a few flagship dual cores just to make itself viable for users. Many will say look at android - dual core. Look at apple iphone - dual core [soon] and wp7 no...
I think by January there needs to be dual core optimized code and ASAP. As far as the G II, the screen looks amazing. Samoled has spoiled me in the focus and the (god awful) dvp. So I may consider that as an option especially if there are devs for samsung platform.

domineus said:
I think he means in normal operations the lag is there. Which it is, let's be real. Android lags, till google changes their h/w graphics acceleration, that won't be changing
That said, I was thinking that wp7 may need a few flagship dual cores just to make itself viable for users. Many will say look at android - dual core. Look at apple iphone - dual core [soon] and wp7 no...
I think by January there needs to be dual core optimized code and ASAP. As far as the G II, the screen looks amazing. Samoled has spoiled me in the focus and the (god awful) dvp. So I may consider that as an option especially if there are devs for samsung platform.
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What I was saying/hinting in order to make a statement (which don't get me wrong everyone including my girl that I have let play with my wp7 want one and thats coming from iphone/android). But at the gym last night there was a guy with a attrix with a wp7 skin and I slapped him (silly foul for fun) because he was false claiming lol (forgive me its Friday). But really they need a wow factor phone because basically alot of people just buy for specs I hate to say (like people @ the gym I workout at) all they talk about is my phone has a 5-8mp camera and a dual processor blah blah, and I just said my phone works and quite well.

domineus said:
I think he means in normal operations the lag is there. Which it is, let's be real. Android lags, till google changes their h/w graphics acceleration, that won't be changing
That said, I was thinking that wp7 may need a few flagship dual cores just to make itself viable for users. Many will say look at android - dual core. Look at apple iphone - dual core [soon] and wp7 no...
I think by January there needs to be dual core optimized code and ASAP. As far as the G II, the screen looks amazing. Samoled has spoiled me in the focus and the (god awful) dvp. So I may consider that as an option especially if there are devs for samsung platform.
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ahhhhh, ok i see it! I wonder if that is a beta hardware, or what version software its running. oddly, I haven't used a ota update or stock rom since the 1.x days. lag is something I just haven't experienced since then... and it puzzles me when I see so many commnets about it really.,

Lag has been the signature of Samsung Galaxy S. It remains to be seen that if S2 can improve on that. The reasons are two folds:
1. The Android OS's own problem (lack of hardware accel and poor garbage collection)
2. Samsung's insistence of using its antiquated RFS file system which is significantly worse than the common ext2 or 4 file system.
And there is really on dual-core support in Android OS in the immediate future. The Dalvik VM used in Android is single core only. Currently only the tablet OS, Honeycomb, supports dual-core.
In the end, what a waste of that beautiful hardware!

Nice work。。。。

Would love this with WP7.

You guys should read the review. No lag, only sign of it is when doing a expose with fully loaded home screens. Even then it was barely noticeable.
Browsing was smooth on flash heavy sites. Read the entire review and watch the videos.

vetvito said:
You guys should read the review. No lag, only sign of it is when doing a expose with fully loaded home screens. Even then it was barely noticeable.
Browsing was smooth on flash heavy sites. Read the entire review and watch the videos.
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we did hence the discussion about the LAG. Look I like the specs myself because they would make any developer salivate and want to at least test it for a spell - myself included. But even still, lag is lag and it's there.
We can call out all of wp inconsistencies till the cow comes home but do it to android its a fight. It's a pretty rational discussion about the SII and there have been no flames. Us, just like you, have watched the video and read the reviews. Let's not assume no one hasn't
And there is really on dual-core support in Android OS in the immediate future. The Dalvik VM used in Android is single core only. Currently only the tablet OS, Honeycomb, supports dual-core.
In the end, what a waste of that beautiful hardware!
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Technically most android d/cs...
for the moment again until something at android changes

A slight jerk one time, is that considered lag?

vetvito said:
You guys should read the review. No lag, only sign of it is when doing a expose with fully loaded home screens. Even then it was barely noticeable.
Browsing was smooth on flash heavy sites. Read the entire review and watch the videos.
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My hd7 is lagy and inernet browsing is pain full with ie ****

Which WP7-devices are coming

Hi all
Which WP7-devices will come this fall?
Only rumours yet, or already real devices?
Thanks
Dominik
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HTC Radar (aka HTC Omega) possibly HTC Bunyip
HTC Titan (aka HTC Eternity)
HTC Prime
HTC Bresson
HTC Ignite
Samsung SGH-i937
Samsung SGH-i677
Samsung GT-i8350
Samsung GT-i8710
Nokia SeaRay
Nokia 800
Acer W4
Acer M310
LG Fantsay (aka LG LG-T130L)
LG-LS831
LG E906 (LG Optimus 7 Jil Sander model)
ZTE unknown model
Fujitsu Toshiba IS12T

I wonder which ones will be making their way to Verizon. I love my trophy, but it's such a low end phone. I would like some a bit more powerful from big red. Too bad they have an odd relationship with MS.
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wakka420 said:
I wonder which ones will be making their way to Verizon. I love my trophy, but it's such a low end phone. I would like some a bit more powerful from big red. Too bad they have an odd relationship with MS.
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wp7 doesn't need extreme high end hardware to work well like android does (and still doesn't work as smoothly as wp7)

eric12341 said:
wp7 doesn't need extreme high end hardware to work well like android does (and still doesn't work as smoothly as wp7)
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True but it would be nice to have some higher end phones on the CDMA networks. The HTC Trophy and HTC Arrive are nice phones but I would like to see an HD7 style phone or a Samsung phone. I'm getting tired of HTC's use of subpar screens and cameras.

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wp7 doesn't need extreme high end hardware to work well like android does (and still doesn't work as smoothly as wp7)
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I agree, it doesn't need extreme hardware, but at the same time. There's quite a few people out there who are sold by keywords like dual core & GHz. If a sale person shows you a 1 GHz 1st gen SnapDragon (WP7) & a 1.5 GHz Dual Core latest retail gen SnapDragon (2.5 GHz Quad cores aren't too far away), which do you really think the average person will choose if they don't know anything about either WP7 nor Android.

NCHEVYHEVN said:
True but it would be nice to have some higher end phones on the CDMA networks. The HTC Trophy and HTC Arrive are nice phones but I would like to see an HD7 style phone or a Samsung phone. I'm getting tired of HTC's use of subpar screens and cameras.
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the arrive and trophy both have SLCD screens and it was proven that there's only a minor difference in quality between SLCD and AMOLED. as for the cameras all the pictures and videos I've taken have had pretty good quality.
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I agree, it doesn't need extreme hardware, but at the same time. There's quite a few people out there who are sold by keywords like dual core & GHz. If a sale person shows you a 1 GHz 1st gen SnapDragon (WP7) & a 1.5 GHz Dual Core latest retail gen SnapDragon (2.5 GHz Quad cores aren't too far away), which do you really think the average person will choose if they don't know anything about either WP7 nor Android.
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yea I can agree that alot of people are victims of technology and love to buy into hype and gimmicks

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the arrive and trophy both have SLCD screens and it was proven that there's only a minor difference in quality between SLCD and AMOLED. as for the cameras all the pictures and videos I've taken have had pretty good quality.
yea I can agree that alot of people are victims of technology and love to buy into hype and gimmicks
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Super AMOLED Plus screen are far better than SLCD. There's a video somewhere to puts both side by side & SLCD is nowhere near as good. The SLCD looks like it has a grey washout over the entire display. I still do prefer HTC's though for other reasons.
Sadly, most consumer are clueless about advantages & disadvantages of different OS's & that no 2 CPU's are the same. Perfect example is a 2 GHz AMD is not as fast as a 2 GHz Pentium. The AMD does usually give better performance for your buck though. So, in the end they look at the hardware specs & prices. Of course they'll pick the more powerful one when both cost basically the same (retail). The Android Dual Core may even be cheaper, because of contract pricing deals. Sadly, this is one of the main reasons that WP7 is doing sad bad on sales. I say, MS, why not just make it latest gen Dual Core compatible. Sure it don't need it, but imagine how fast it'd be. Not a damn thing would lag, lol. You wouldn't be able to keep up with it lol. Also, we need 4G LTE. I know it supports it. The icons & registry are in there. It's that the hardware doesn't support 4G LTE.

Galaxy S II WP7 Just a Rumour?

Hey guys,
Basically my Omnia 7 Bricked itself, due to unknown reasons....
Samsung said it was unrepairable so were supposed to be sending me a new Omnia 7. This was about 3 weeks ago. They finally got back to me to say that they don't produce the Omnia 7 anymore.
Now they are going to send me a Galaxy S 2. I've read articles from July saying about WP7 rumours.
Have these been confirmed or denied?
Just wondering if the S2 they send me will come with WP7 or Android on it. Apprently Head Office suggested it as a replacement phone, so whether they took note of my current OS (WP7). Who knows.

If they said they're sending a GS2 then you're getting an Android phone which is odd considering you were on WP7. The closest thing to that on WP7 would be the Focus S which isn't out yet and seems to be a US exclusive. So really it seems you're getting an Android phone. I'm sure you can get some sort of extra compensation for not getting a phone with the same OS.

Ahhh man, I never knew I could get extra compensation. I guess it's too late now that I've accepted it as a replacement.

Yeah you could have argued that you had already invested in apps and games that you can't get a refund for and that you have to repurchase them on Android. Not saying they would have added something for sure but you would have had a strong case to defend. You can still try once you've received the GS2.

Call when you receive it.... Honestly I'd be pissed if I was sent an android phone when I needed a replacement for my windows phone. Livid to say the least... Not just apps etc., but for the simple fact if I wanted android I would have bought one in the first place.
Its definatly not too late though. Call when you receive it and say "Why in the hell is this an android phone." " I didn't agree or accept this"
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Yes, it exist. It is call the Samsung Focus S.
If Samsung said that you are getting the Galaxy S2 then you are getting an Android device.

Don't accept it. The successor to the Omnia 7, the Omnia W, is due out very soon. That's the replacement you should insist on.

Well at the moment I've just gone and started a new contract with a Htc Titan, and was going to sell Omnia 7 and pay off old contract. I'll just sell the S2.

seekdestroy said:
Hey guys,
Basically my Omnia 7 Bricked itself, due to unknown reasons....
Samsung said it was unrepairable so were supposed to be sending me a new Omnia 7. This was about 3 weeks ago. They finally got back to me to say that they don't produce the Omnia 7 anymore.
Now they are going to send me a Galaxy S 2. I've read articles from July saying about WP7 rumours.
Have these been confirmed or denied?
Just wondering if the S2 they send me will come with WP7 or Android on it. Apprently Head Office suggested it as a replacement phone, so whether they took note of my current OS (WP7). Who knows.
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It's strange they would say those words. But essentially they do have a GSG2 version for WP7. It's called the Focus S and should be coming out in a week. It is actually better, hardware-wise than the SGS2.
If this is the phone you get, count yourself very fortunate because it will be the premium phone to have with WP7.

How is a Focus S better than a SGS2 hardware-wise? You read some things here, I have to rub my eyes sometimes.
And from the story it's quite clear he's getting a SGS2 by the way.
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Peew971 said:
How is a Focus S better than a SGS2 hardware-wise? You read some things here, I have to rub my eyes sometimes.
And from the story it's quite clear he's getting a SGS2 by the way.
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Higher CPU clocking for one. Better camera. Don't know about the CPU type, but it might be better given its higher clocking.

MartyLK said:
Higher CPU clocking for one. Better camera. Don't know about the CPU type, but it might be better given its higher clocking.
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Higher clock CPU? like in an AMD 3.8GHZ from 2004 is better than [email protected] check
Better camera? 720p is better that 1080p? yes, it is. -check (don't come screaming , I know HD comes from processor power...)

htc9420 said:
Higher clock CPU? like in an AMD 3.8GHZ from 2004 is better than [email protected] check
Better camera? 720p is better that 1080p? yes, it is. -check (don't come screaming , I know HD comes from processor power...)
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Eh...the camera has a dedicated button and I did say camera, not video processing. The CPU in the Focus S is a single core which will provide better battery life. I'd rather have better battery life than a CPU that isn't being utilized. The rest is software related and can be improved with updates.

MartyLK said:
Eh...the camera has a dedicated button and I did say camera, not video processing. The CPU in the Focus S is a single core which will provide better battery life. I'd rather have better battery life than a CPU that isn't being utilized. The rest is software related and can be improved with updates.
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Better battery life? Check again Marty. Dual cores offer better battery life.

vetvito said:
Better battery life? Check again Marty. Dual cores offer better battery life.
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We'll have to wait for the Focus S to get here before making any claims. I don't see how a dual core can offer better BL anyways.

day2die said:
Yes, it exist. It is call the Samsung Focus S.
If Samsung said that you are getting the Galaxy S2 then you are getting an Android device.
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Focus s is not a galaxy s 2, or even approaching being close to a galaxy s 2.
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MartyLK said:
We'll have to wait for the Focus S to get here before making any claims. I don't see how a dual core can offer better BL anyways.
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They're more efficient Marty. Its more than just a name. Just research it some.

N8ter said:
Focus s is not a galaxy s 2, or even approaching being close to a galaxy s 2.
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That's true, is has surpassed it. Especially with having WP7 on it. The SGS2 can't even come close to competing with it because of that.

^ lol. Where do you get this stuff from Marty!

vetvito said:
^ lol. Where do you get this stuff from Marty!
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You think Android is better?