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CM7 RC1 Experience

Hi all, this is my first post and I'm a n00b to rooting, but don't let that stop you from reading on since I'm an advanced user and hope I can add some value here. Honestly, don't know what took me so long to do this. Posting to the Q&A forum since I can't yet post to the RC1 Dev forum.
My main goals for rooting were to get out from under Sprint's downgrade of my Swype beta (I should never have installed that OTA update, duh), upgrade to GB, and get better performance (battery especially).
I tried lots of the GB ROMs so far and experienced some of the reported problems like cycling reboots, slow/non-responsive market, CM skate anim cycling, etc. Some ROMs had swype, some didn't and most produced the licensing issue discussed in these forums when trying to install the latest beta.
Long story short, I've found a very stable and fast performing combo that I thought I'd share, and ask a question about. Here's what I did:
In recovery, Format_all, wipe data, system, cache, dalvik.
Install RC1, install the latest GB google apps and restart.
3G performance was piss poor, and I want wimax (more Geeees!), so I installed the toast wimax kernel (and antipasto font which I'm loving), cleared caches again, restarted and now 3G performance was faster than I think it has ever been. [EDIT: WiFi now an issue] and GPS are fast and stable. Best part, I was able to download and install the very latest Swype beta on this ROM.
A couple things that need addressing though:
'Cell standby' is a somewhat high percentage battery drain which I'll try to tackle through other reported methods (could be wimax searching/standby?). That said, battery life is still very good and way better than sprint/sense, even under heavy/constant use.
USB issues: Enable USB debugging and notify. Icon shows in notification bar. Disable debugging, but leave notify checked. Debugging icon still shows. Tied to this is the inability to select the mount/charge options, which others have recently reported in the RC1 Dev forum. So can't mount to PC. Any updates on how to resolve?
WiFi is now non-functional on my office AP.
WiMax control settings not showing up since they aren't there with this ROM/kernel combo for some reason. Any/all ideas welcome on this point too.
Slow market downloads, even though speedtest shows 527kbps down.
Thanks again everyone for this great community!

I haven't had any luck with my phone on my office AP (3COM) since I got this darn phone. For some odd reason it gets the wrong gateway and I have to set it up manually from the terminal if I want to use it after connecting. Check your gateway when you connect and see what you are getting.

admang said:
[*]WiMax control settings not showing up since they aren't there with this ROM/kernel combo for some reason. Any/all ideas welcome on this point too.
Thanks again everyone for this great community!
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WiMax isn't in RC1 yet. You can get an alpha build that Shinzul has up. Or wait until the Final release which should have WiMax and HDMI working.

Thanks, I'll check the gateway, and will check out Shinzul's alpha.
Had my first auto reboot today, and Sms is not working right (yes, less than 160 chars and not mms). Might have spoken too soon about this combo...
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admang said:
Thanks, I'll check the gateway, and will check out Shinzul's alpha.
Had my first auto reboot today, and Sms is not working right (yes, less than 160 chars and not mms). Might have spoken too soon about this combo...
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Wait till the final release. It will be more stable.
Sent from my Evo powered by MIUI

admang said:
A couple things that need addressing though:
'Cell standby' is a somewhat high percentage battery drain which I'll try to tackle through other reported methods (could be wimax searching/standby?). That said, battery life is still very good and way better than sprint/sense, even under heavy/constant use.
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Keep in mind that the "Percentages" will always total a 100%. Something will always be big.
So to me I WANT TO See Cell Standby be high. That means nothing stupid in the OS is chewing it up. And Cell Standby isn't effected all that much except the Radio Firmware (and settings) !! So be careful what you wish for.

The problem for me is, on sense you can uncheck radio always on to remove that cell standby huge drain. On froyo you can use juice defender. But on cm7 you can do neither. So I need to turn it on and off manually. Very annoying, anybody have a solution?

If you install CM7 nightly build #6 (today's build), it now has support for WiMax and SMS splitting.

juice defender is failing me. and i reeeeeallly hate turning data on and off manually. any suggestions? i'm new to aosp so i'm a bit lost rigt now.

Just use the expanded notification bar and toggle data. You're not gonna be able to shut off the radio without airplane mode.
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dkdude36 said:
juice defender is failing me. and i reeeeeallly hate turning data on and off manually. any suggestions? i'm new to aosp so i'm a bit lost rigt now.
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Unfortunately I think some permissions changed within Android 2.3 which CM7 uses and JuiceDefender just doesn't work on it yet. You're only other option is to flash CM6 (Android 2.2) if you must have JuiceDefender working in ASOP.

IOInterrupt said:
Unfortunately I think some permissions changed within Android 2.3 which CM7 uses and JuiceDefender just doesn't work on it yet. You're only other option is to flash CM6 (Android 2.2) if you must have JuiceDefender working in ASOP.
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ya it looks like thats the case. sucks cause it is taking a really high toll on my battery. i hope somebody will put it into one of the next builds soon.

Continuing from my OP, I'm now off RC1 and onto Nightly #12 with WiMax. WiMax when on is a huge battery drain and I'll be doing some post-reading to figure out if someone has found a way to set a WiMax antenna polling frequency so that it can sleep for periods when not connected.
That said, the WiMax is nice and fast...so I only enable it with the notification bar widget when I need speed or talk/data simultaneously. I also use a new version of Setting Profiles (Full version) to toggle the Wimax on/off based on where I am -- note that this is a test version sent to me by the developers as I've been helping them test this feature. So I don't know if it's in the latest market release version, but if you are a paid owner of that app, just email them and ask for it (although the updated market release is likely not far off if it's not out already).
With the XDA-sponsored SetCPU on and no WiMax, I'm actually getting great standby times in the double-digit number of hours, which has been a first for me with this phone! I know there are some great posts out there about manual conditioning of the battery, which I'm eager to try, and other useful battery-related posts.

I am running CM7 RC1 and I have to say I love it. The first couple of days after flashing I was experiencing terrible battery life. I mean 5 hours or less. I finally flashed Savage-Zen kernel and used the "smartass: governor in CM settings. My battery was better, but Cell Standby was still draining all the battery. I wiped the dalvik cache again and it helped some. but I think the best thing I did was disable google backup settings. Keep in mind before I flashed the kernel and battery life was horrible I wasnt using it heavily, WiFi was off completely, I toggled mobile data on and off as needed, and didnt let anything except for weather autosync. I had maybe 10 applications as well. Once I flashed Savage-zen, used smartass, and disabled Backup data to google servers. MY battery lasts over 2 days with moderate usage with mobile data always on and gmail and weather auto synced.
As far as bug-wise, the only thing I have experienced so far is sometimes there is a slight delay when unlocking the phone and getting the lockscreen to show. Sometimes when the button is pressed to unlock, the bottom touch buttons light up, but the lockscreen takes like 5 seconds to appear.
One more thing is the GPS icon stays in the notification area once it has been turned on and back off.
All in all I can say now that I have amazing battery life, I love CM7 and will not use anything else besides CM7. I cannot wait until the stable release is out. GO CyanogenMod Team!

[Q] Random change in Wi-Fi battery drain...

Apologies for any double posts in two forums; thought This would be a better place to ask than the General Forum.
Mods: Didn't know whether to post in this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=540559..
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I've Had my phone rooted, new Radio (Since Dec.) running latest LeeDroid.
Had my phone just the way i like everything, been very impressed with battery life over the past month with brilliant ROM updates.
Then randomly last week Wi-Fi usage shot up to the 60-90 mA level.
Why?
No new Rom had been installed for 2 weeks, so it wasn't that.
Wi-Fi off was 1-4 mA.
- I thought maybe its the applications I updated; Uninstalled all of them
Didn't work
- Maybe its fiddly settings like SYnc etc that have changed since App updates etc...
No settings had been altered.
- Maybe its a cache stats thing, I'll do a full wipe (Via CWM in Recovery Mode, select "Wipe Data/FactoryReset" option) and re-installed an even newer version of LeeDroid.
Still the battery drained 7-9 percent an hour on Standby(Screen Off).
1) Is it my router?
2) Is it a faulty WiFi part in the phone
3) What else besides the other two could it be?
i.e. - Battery was 60 percent with Wi-Fi on. -- Phone put into what appeared to be "Sleep Mode" (Pressing the power button once.)
-- 8 hours later battery was 15 percent!
Spare Parts showed "Time since Phone was in sleep" 8H
"Time since Wi-fi was in sleep" 8H.
Help greatly appreciated.

I had the same problem, disabling email sync in gmail solved the problem for me

Thanks GurliGebis; Tried that too even though I hadn't changed that setting since last week (When everything was fine).
Still no luck.
Any other thoughts?

Although almost 5 months have passed from the last reply on this thread I continue to have the EXACT same problem as you Tapori...
Have u figured it out mate?
Please reply if u have.
Thanks

DanteGR said:
Although almost 5 months have passed from the last reply on this thread I continue to have the EXACT same problem as you Tapori...
Have u figured it out mate?
Please reply if u have.
Thanks
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Have you checked the drain in other routers?? Check it in another place, friends house, work.. and see if its happening the same every where
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elazari said:
Have you checked the drain in other routers?? Check it in another place, friends house, work.. and see if its happening the same every where
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I have tried it elsewhere and drain seems to be ok as far as i can recall. The problem is that even with my home router SOMETIMES there is no problem and drain seems normal.
So it's just a random thing but oh so annoying when it happens.
Thanks for trying to help though

[Q] Another Battery Drain Thread (But this is ridiculous)

Firstly, I know what I'm doing when it comes to flashing. But I'm completely dumbfounded here..
Okay in standby mode, with wifi on i usually get -3 to -7mA.
But suddenly a few days ago, my phone doesn't sound my alarm in the morning because it had turned its self off.
Imagine my surprise when I had to plug it to start it. Turns out it had drained 60% in little over 3 hours.
So I began testing - turns out my phone had started to fluctuate between -90 and -150 mA EVEN IN AIRPLANE MODE.
After trying countless solutions (inc many different ROMs), I had had enough. I full wiped from CWM and installed fresh ARHD 5.1.6, skipped all setup, installed just titanium, and restored just battery calibration and currentwidget. I calibrated and then left it overnight in airplane mode - and STILL it fluctuated just as wildly.
I wouldn't post this if I hadn't tried everything, but I have spent hours reading xda trying to amend this. Changing radios didn't help (am using latest atm), changing ROM didn't help (not GB or froyo or CM7), even restoring my nandroid from when my battery drain was normal didn't help.
Does anyone have ANY ideas as to why this is happening?
The only thing I can conceivably think of is that my battery is giving up.
Is this good enough cause to get a replacement battery/phone from HTC?
Edit: Meant to post this is Q&A tread, sorry

if you changed the ROM and radio, then i'd be near to positive to say that the problem is from the battery!!
Buy another one and give it a long 20-22 hrs charge (although HTC recommends 8hrs - but they talk alot of crap ) before opening your phone.
Or, alternatively, see if anyone (friends/family) can lend you a battery and see if the problem still persists

CodeNameUnknown1 said:
if you changed the ROM and radio, then i'd be near to positive to say that the problem is from the battery!!
Buy another one and give it a long 20-22 hrs charge (although HTC recommends 8hrs - but they talk alot of crap ) before opening your phone.
Or, alternatively, see if anyone (friends/family) can lend you a battery and see if the problem still persists
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Official batterys are expensive... does HTC do replacements?

not sure, never tried or asked, gotta phone them up!

have you tried turning USB debugging on? that solved it for some people.
i also had this problem, and the USB debug didnt work, but i found that it was something to do with HTC hub repeatedly trying to connect to the internet and using a shed load of CPU in doing so. aeroplane mode didnt help me either, but after turning off everything with HTC in its name it worked again. (specifically HTC sense in accounts and sync)
hope that helps, worth a try.

oh and my battery is fine now, lasts 2 days or so. can last a week though.
still charge it every night though.

Thanks for replying, but USB Debugging was always on for me, and when I tested with fresh install I didn't put ANY accounts in so the HTC thing shouldn't be an issue. i guess I'll just try the replacement battery thing

sometimes the radio signal kept switching also may cause a drain in your battery.
Setting > Mobile networks > Network Mode > Preferred Network Mode
for me i preferred it to be set as 'WCDMA' rather than 'GSM/WCDMA Auto'. The draw back is that i may lost signal if the signal is weak but this setting prevent the radio from being switching.

OKAY GUYS I FIXED IT
How you may ask?
I HAVE NO IDEA
I was just flashing things over trying to fix it and suddenly it went back to normal. I'm currently using a UV kernel, so maybe that's helping too.

apoorvajsh said:
Firstly, I know what I'm doing when it comes to flashing. But I'm completely dumbfounded here..
Okay in standby mode, with wifi on i usually get -3 to -7mA.
Is this good enough cause to get a replacement battery/phone from HTC?
Edit: Meant to post this is Q&A tread, sorry
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Dont want to go too far OT, but how do you measure the battery current?
I assume you dont physically wire up an ammeter, or do you?
Ian P

Hahahahahaha, that's brilliant. I'm signaturing that
But no, I don't. The phone creates estimates of the present current/voltage loss, much the same way as it makes estimates of the battery % left.
So all you need is an app to log that! Currentwidget is the lightest, but I recommend battery monitor widget

OK its a battery monitoring app, but can you see the current drain whilst actually using other programmes?
Some apps use full screen so even the top status bar is not visible.
Ian P

elanman99 said:
Dont want to go too far OT, but how do you measure the battery current?
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CurrentWidget, logging to file :
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.manor.currentwidget

[Q] Nil's Business Gingersense 3.0 (v2.3) question

Hey everyone,
I'm under 10 posts, so I have to post here. With that said, I have a question.
I'm running nil's Business Gingersense 3.0 v2.3. When my 3G is on, my battery life seems to be sucked down about 2-3% every minute or so. Now, when I installed this ROM I did a full wipe of data/cache, dalvik, battery stats, return to stock. I also followed his instructions in his thread on his ROM about battery saving. In addition, I did my normal turning off syncing, setting apps to update only when opened, turning off all vibration features, etc. My battery still drops that 2-3% every minute.
I'm curious if anyone else is having/had this problem? If so, did you fix it?
I'm going to try Tiny's newest release kernel tonight, but wanted to see if anyone else had the same thing(s) going on with their DInc that I have.
Thanks in advance for you help!

Curious if you've noticed this after a full charge and after the battery percentage drops below ~94%?

I'm in the same boat with less than 10 posts so I also need to ask here. I am noticing that the HTC weather app seems to indicate a very different location than the one I am in. I also notice it with the weather bug app, so it seems to be a location issue and not an app issue. Sometimes if I go into settings/location and uncheck/recheck use wireless networks it corrects itself and sometimes it needs a reboot. Any ideas why or how to fix it? Thanks.

Bull_Moose said:
Curious if you've noticed this after a full charge and after the battery percentage drops below ~94%?
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Hey Bull_Moose,
I refrained from posting a response until after I gave Tiny's kernel a couple of days of use. I haven't noticed the drop as much with the new kernel as well as switching out the Yahoo mail app for K9 Mail. It still seems to be dropping a little quicker than I'd like, but perhaps that's because I am actually seeing percentage numbers now and thus it's creating a simulated quick drop effect.
I'll give it some more testing, but it seems better now after those two fixes. Like I said, not as good as it seemed with Froyo custom ROMs or even the Gingerbread OTA leak, but perhaps that because of all the little tweaks I can do with the ROM.

m6droid said:
Hey Bull_Moose,
I refrained from posting a response until after I gave Tiny's kernel a couple of days of use. I haven't noticed the drop as much with the new kernel as well as switching out the Yahoo mail app for K9 Mail. It still seems to be dropping a little quicker than I'd like, but perhaps that's because I am actually seeing percentage numbers now and thus it's creating a simulated quick drop effect.
I'll give it some more testing, but it seems better now after those two fixes. Like I said, not as good as it seemed with Froyo custom ROMs or even the Gingerbread OTA leak, but perhaps that because of all the little tweaks I can do with the ROM.
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I was the same way when I first used a ROM that showed % drops so part of it may just be the fact that you're keeping a closer eye on the battery life now. Once fully charged, these batteries will drain a couple of % even if it is still plugged in. That's why after five minutes of being unplugged your phone could have dropped 5% or more, it's simply "catching up" to the actual battery level.
But if you're noticing a quick drain after that initial drop then it's probably an app doing too much in the background. It is possible that the ROM/kernel/ROM and kernel combo is causing it, but I've never had this problem with any of Nils' ROMs even with the kernel he uses. (Tiny's is better though, in my opinion)

I have been using this ROM for about a week or two now and I am having an issue with the Friends widget. It will only set the default number on one person all the others go into my vcard and says set a default but it never stays set. Any suggestions???
Also can anyone tell me how to get the verizon backup assistant back. I know that I can use google for whatever reason I just prefer verizon. I have read a few forums but can't seem to find a solid answer. Also I am very new to this stuff so the more instruction from start to finish the better. Thanks in advance!!!

Is it possible at all with Nils Gingersense 3.0 or 3.5 to ever use fastboot, or is it completely out of the question (With the file being so large and all...)?

lol
lmbo im in the same boat with the 10 posts... is gay... yea this is part of getting my 10 done... im no noob!!!

Right...
gutiejor said:
lmbo im in the same boat with the 10 posts... is gay... yea this is part of getting my 10 done... im no noob!!!
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Yeah, what's the deal with that? Makes me feel like a lesser class being or something

you have less 10 posts. that means your good at following instructions.. and you know how to fix certain troubles on your phone..

How can I track down my battery drain?

Leaving my OP in place, but I have rewritten the description with much more detail and pics here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=25401417#post25401417
I suggest skipping to there.
I am looking for general tips here. E.g., not asking you to diagnose my specific problem so much as give me ideas of what else to check or try.
Lately I have had unexplained (to me) battery drain. Yesterday I lost about 25 percent in an hour while the phone idled. It is not a constant thing, though. I can go an hour and loose 1 percent then loose massive amounts in the next hour.
Now, i have searched, but I have not found anything that applies to me.
I have:
Tried a different radio
Tried a different kernel
Reflashed my rom
Phone is entering deep sleep according to cpu spy
There are no unusual or excessive wake locks according to better battery stats
No apps are using a lot of battery.
I am in a low signal area at work, but putting the phone in airplane mode and dissabling background syn does not stop the drain.
Ideas?

might be your phone is loosing signal? i would check the battery stats in the settings menu to see if you have a poor mobile signal.

Zepius said:
might be your phone is loosing signal? i would check the battery stats in the settings menu to see if you have a poor mobile signal.
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beren28 said:
I am in a low signal area at work, but putting the phone in airplane mode and dissabling background syn does not stop the drain.
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So I don't think I can blame it on that.

Do you have any exchange sync on your phone?
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can you give us screen shots of battery stats?

Herman76 said:
Do you have any exchange sync on your phone?
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I do, and on reflection it is a possible culprit since I added it recently.
Didn't occur to me since it was producing no wakelocks and the battery stats did not showing as using much battery.
I shall turn it off for a bit and see if that helps. (unless there is some other way to test if it is the problem first.) I am off to the search button!

Zepius said:
can you give us screen shots of battery stats?
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This is from yesterday when i set it down unused for about 90 minutes. The amount of wakes seems liek a lot, but it is similar to what i see when i have far far less drain, so I don't think that is the problem. I didn't get the app list screen, but out should screen as the only major drain with about 2 minutes.
I know it is shows poor signal strength, so immediately after that shot I put it in airplane mode, turned of sync, and rebooted. The battery continued to drain and graph had the exact same slope under those conditions. (Forget to get a pic though.)
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System panel paid version with monitoring enabled is the best for tracking apps using CPU.

OK, still working on this.
To recap:
When the screen is off, and no apps are running I sometimes get inexplicable battery drain. This is occurring under conditions when I should be experiencing little or no drain at all. I say this becuase:
The screen is of and no bakground apps are running
the phone is NOT awake and IS entering deep sleep (as confirmed by cpuspy)
there are no unusual kernel or partial wake locks
there are no apps listed as using unexpected ammounts of battery
This is not a universal problem. The phone *often* behaves as expected. I can leave the phone off for an hour and see a 1% or 2% drain, and I am happy with that. However, sometimes, randomly, it goes nuts on my.
This graph from a few weeks ago shows what I mean. Look in the green box. The phone is sleeping, and the screen is off. The graph starts as a flatline, then, all of a sudden, it begins to drop precipitously.
Here is a graph that shows the battery dropping at the same rate whether the phone is awake or sleeping:
I have gone the following to try and narrow the problem down:
Done a completely fresh install of my Rom including a system wipe.
Tried two kernels (the aokp default and several relases of Franco's
Tried a different radio
Activated and installed a new sim card
I have come to suspect that the problem is network related. When the problem starts, sometimes going into airplane mode and back and/or toggling 2g only temporarily fixes the problem.
I suspect that something is happening with my connection to T-Mobile that keeps the network running and draining power. This is pure speculation, but it is all I can think of.
I installed juice defender (which I had not been previously running) and noticed the that, sometimes, it didn't turn of data when it should have. I also noticed the following two things happen:
I do not believe it is a rom problem, since if so, someone else would be reporting this. It might be an app problem, but if so the app is draining battery without a wake lock and while the phone is in deep sleep.
It is not exchange (as was suggested in this thread) since it continues when I ev my exchange account.
I have no idea what else to do or try.
Since it happens at random and takes a while to identify, uninstalling one app at a time to test for that could easily take months to narrow down a misbehaving app.
I know it is not a hardware issue since last month I got this:
That was with AOKP and Franco (earlier versions obviously)
I have google searched till my fingers bleed.
I am a long way form being an expert, and I suspect I may have overlooked something obvious.
Please, any thoughts??

Damn you definitely have a major issue and I don't know what it could be. But when my phone sleeps itstays dead flat with no awake bars, and drops 1% every 3 hours.

1. Calibrate battery
2. If you really wanna find the problem, install the rom with no mods or apps and run it and see if it still happens. Then add back each mod/app one at a time

derekwilkinson said:
1. Calibrate battery
2. If you really wanna find the problem, install the rom with no mods or apps and run it and see if it still happens. Then add back each mod/app one at a time
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While I appreciate your effort, this is remarkable unhelpful for the following reasons:
1. "calibrating" the battery is a myth and doesn't actually do something. Even if it did, it would not explain the symptoms I have described. I have been around xda long enough to know it is the knee-jerk reaction to any battery question, but it is not relevant here.
2. Since the problem occurs at random, and sometimes takes hours to show up, (For instance, last night I charged to full and tried to catch it happening. For 4 hours nothing happened, it behaved perfectly. Then I went to bed and it immediately started to fall and was dead by morning) and since I have over 100 apps, your suggestion could easily take *over a year* to follow. Believe me, I have thought about it, but I started this thread hoping for ideas that would allow me to avoid it.
Here is that chart for last night.
I had about 1 hour and 30 minutes screen on time with 65% left when I went to bed. When I woke up, phone was dead.

RogerPodacter said:
Damn you definitely have a major issue and I don't know what it could be. But when my phone sleeps itstays dead flat with no awake bars, and drops 1% every 3 hours.
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Mine often does that. But sometimes it doesn't. It is the fact that it happens seemingly at random that makes it so annoying and hard to track down.

I would replace the battery
One thing you haven't rulled out is that the battery itself is bad.
Have a friend you could swap with for a day, or at least long enough to see if the problem follows? If your battery drops on their phone that is also a good indication.

arw01 said:
One thing you haven't rulled out is that the battery itself is bad.
Have a friend you could swap with for a day, or at least long enough to see if the problem follows? If your battery drops on their phone that is also a good indication.
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The thought has occurred to me, but unfortunately, no, I don't have a friend I can swap with. And really, since I have had the phone less than 3 months, the battery *shouldn't* be bad, but yeah, defective products happen.
If I cannot find any other cause I will likely order a new battery and see if that fixes it.

beren28 said:
While I appreciate your effort, this is remarkable unhelpful for the following reasons:
1. "calibrating" the battery is a myth and doesn't actually do something. Even if it did, it would not explain the symptoms I have described. I have been around xda long enough to know it is the knee-jerk reaction to any battery question, but it is not relevant here.
2. Since the problem occurs at random, and sometimes takes hours to show up, (For instance, last night I charged to full and tried to catch it happening. For 4 hours nothing happened, it behaved perfectly. Then I went to bed and it immediately started to fall and was dead by morning) and since I have over 100 apps, your suggestion could easily take *over a year* to follow. Believe me, I have thought about it, but I started this thread hoping for ideas that would allow me to avoid it.
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1. yes battery calibration does make a difference.
2. ok, so an app can't run a process at random? especially when you have "over 100 apps"? Run the rom stock and see if it still happens, or even run the stock rom/kernel. if you don't want to try this then why are you asking for suggestions? christ

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1. yes battery calibration does make a difference.
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You are incorrect. But, in any case, I DID calibrate the battery just to cover bases in the case that I was wrong.
2. ok, so an app can't run a process at random? especially when you have "over 100 apps"?
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We'll of course it can. That is kinda my point. If I go one app at a time waiting for it to "run a process at random" I am talking literally MONTHS of testing. I would have to wait many hours, if not days after installing or uninstalling an app to be sure whether or not it made a difference, then move on the the next. This is simply not an option. I started this thread in hopes that a realistic and doable solution might exist that I was unaware of.
Run the rom stock and see if it still happens, or even run the stock rom/kernel. if you don't want to try this then why are you asking for suggestions? christ
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I am asking because there may be a solution that I am unaware of that doesn't require me to put my entire life on hold for months. It is possible that there is no such solution, but I asked in case there was one.
Sorry to have put you out so much.

You mentioned you recently installed exchange sync. Did turning off sync remedy this or have you not tried disabling all sync features?
One other thing to check is the background data usage of your apps. You'd find this under 'data usage' and make sure you enable the wifi tab so you can see data usage on wifi.

skadebo said:
You mentioned you recently installed exchange sync. Did turning off sync remedy this or have you not tried disabling all sync features?
when i did a complete quote and re flash i did not setup the exchange account, but the issue continued.
One other thing to check is the background data usage of your apps. You'd find this under 'data usage' and make sure you enable the wifi tab so you can see data usage on wifi.
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I'll check that out. Thanks.
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My battery also drains at a rate similar to yours however I'm on the CDMA version. Hopefully you can figure out what's going on with yours.