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Flashed almost every foryo rom and i loved them...
with a special mention to Richard's DeFrost and Adam's Opendesire.. Froyo in general was extremely fast and and had much better user experience when compared to 2.1 even with sense..though its subjecive..
But two issues always forces me back to stock 2.1 with sense
1- White noise (echo not an issue with me on opendesire)
2- Battery life
I just love the froyo roms, the speed and the new features are just fantastic. But:
1. Battery drain, with the last froyo rom I tried my battery was drained by 50 % overnight with nothing turned on. With the stock HTC 2.1 rom, it only drain 5 % overnight
2. like rahiljnmc says, with OD there is no echo, but still some white noise.
However the main problem keeping me from froyo, is the battery drain.
the missing sense...froyo with sense that would be nice
the fact that I cant root my phone
Lost 36% of battery in the last 37 hours with opendesire 1.5, so battery is not an issue for some.
Not being able to connect to my companies exchange account.
Always tells, that wrong credentials, when returning back to 2.1, everything is working fine.
/Edzz
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the missing sense...froyo with sense that would be nice
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I'm torn between waiting for an official HTC update, and flashing a Froyo ROM and using Launcher Pro. As trivial as it may seem, I think the main thing I'd miss from Sense is the clock, but then there is Fancy Widget. For now anyway.
1: White noise / echo. Will be sorted soon enough.
2: Battery time varies. Can be 3 days, or can be 12hrs depening on the mood of the phone that day.
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1. Battery drain, with the last froyo rom I tried my battery was drained by 50 % overnight with nothing turned on. With the stock HTC 2.1 rom, it only drain 5 % overnight
However the main problem keeping me from froyo, is the battery drain.
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I had the same issue on the weekend, and thought it was just some freaky occurance. I lost 50% overnight with nothing turned on.
I don't miss sence at all anymore.
My battery is actually better in fro yo. Over night I lose 1% every 2 hours and on occation I can get through a whole day without plugging my phone in once - a great improvement!
The only thing I missed from 2.1 was the inability to select text in the browser (I was doing it wrong) and the data on/off widget (I now know 2g/3g shortcut is better)
So now the only thing I miss is the radio, but then again I don't have to listen to Chris moyles on the way to work anymore.
I don't think I could go back.
Being able to use it as a "phone" without the other side questioning me if I am next to a waterfall
just FM radio
addionally to the mentioned problems above:
the missing HTC Sync. I need my phone to be synching with outlook and there still is no Rom which can provide this...
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I don't miss sence at all anymore.
My battery is actually better in fro yo. Over night I lose 1% every 2 hours and on occation I can get through a whole day without plugging my phone in once - a great improvement!
The only thing I missed from 2.1 was the inability to select text in the browser (I was doing it wrong) and the data on/off widget (I now know 2g/3g shortcut is better)
So now the only thing I miss is the radio, but then again I don't have to listen to Chris moyles on the way to work anymore.
I don't think I could go back.
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How do you select txt from the browser? It's the one thing I can't work out in FroYo at the mo...
EDIT: Found it, stupid place to put it!!
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Flashed almost every foryo rom and i loved them...
with a special mention to Richard's DeFrost and Adam's Opendesire.. Froyo in general was extremely fast and and had much better user experience when compared to 2.1 even with sense..though its subjecive..
But two issues always forces me back to stock 2.1 with sense
1- White noise (echo not an issue with me on opendesire)
2- Battery life
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battery life is really good - 2-3 days with evg 3hrs phone calls, email sync every 30 minutes and some browsing. remember that battery life depends on your network converge and signal quality
FM radio!
echo and white noise!!!
For me there's a couple of things.
1. The FM Radio
2. The HTC Mail/Activesync setup. With the 2.1/Sense I can choose to only sync calendar or contacts but not mail from an account. With Froyo the mail component wasn't optional. I actually have 2 separate Exchange accounts - 1 for mail/contacts and the other just for the calendar but couldn't achieve that setup with Froyo
I'm not missing sense, but i'm missing the Sense Dialer and Contacts app... the stock is just ugly as hell!
FM Radio is also missing...
Other thing is.. I install all apps on SD with the Froyo built in apps2sd... but after installing about 30 apps it says low on space ??? But I have enoough space on my SD... that's just weird and I'm thinking to switch to the hacked apps2sd ^^
Hi guys, can someone help me, I want to download froyo to my new HTC Desire, can you send me the link please??!
Hey everyone, last weekend I unrooted and wiped my phone, went back to factory settings, rerooted and installed CM6.1 RC2. I've been enjoying it so far (because I hate Sense UI) but I've got a couple of questions that need answered. Hopefully you all can help me.
CM6
1. Is there a setting to turn off always-on mobile data? I cannot find it.
2. For some odd reason, I cannot turn on bluetooth. I've not had a problem with turning on bluetooth with any other rom. In fact, I remember testing bluetooth the night I installed CM6. Is this an issue with the phone or the rom?
3. No matter how much I turn off Auto-Sync, it turns back on. What is doing this?
Battery Life
1. On average, I get around 10-14 hours battery life a day, maybe a little more if I barely use my phone all day. I've heard a lot of people say that an ideal battery drain with the screen off should be 1-2%/hour, but mine will drain from 6% to even 10% in 40-50 minutes (EDIT: Currently 75% battery left, unplugged for 2hrs 30min, done nothing but use the browser for 5 minutes, download something, and install it)! I use systempanel and spareparts to monitor which apps could possibly be doing this, but none look like they're eating up too much of the battery. I check Facebook 4-5 times a day, use the browser, and check Gmail. I don't use Google Talk. My screen brightness is around 30-40% and I have underclocked when the screen is off with setcpu. What is draining my battery so fast? It's a shame that there are so many cool things to do with this phone but I can't do them in fear of my battery dying before the end of the day
Sorry, that last question was long, but I did not want 2 separate posts. Thanks guys, I hope you can help!
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Hey everyone, last weekend I unrooted and wiped my phone, went back to factory settings, rerooted and installed CM6.1 RC2. I've been enjoying it so far (because I hate Sense UI) but I've got a couple of questions that need answered. Hopefully you all can help me.
CM6
1. Is there a setting to turn off always-on mobile data? I cannot find it.
2. For some odd reason, I cannot turn on bluetooth. I've not had a problem with turning on bluetooth with any other rom. In fact, I remember testing bluetooth the night I installed CM6. Is this an issue with the phone or the rom?
3. No matter how much I turn off Auto-Sync, it turns back on. What is doing this?
Battery Life
1. On average, I get around 10-14 hours battery life a day, maybe a little more if I barely use my phone all day. I've heard a lot of people say that an ideal battery drain with the screen off should be 1-2%/hour, but mine will drain from 6% to even 10% in 40-50 minutes! I use systempanel and spareparts to monitor which apps could possibly be doing this, but none look like they're eating up too much of the battery. I check Facebook 4-5 times a day, use the browser, and check Gmail. I don't use Google Talk. My screen brightness is around 30-40% and I have underclocked when the screen is off with setcpu. What is draining my battery so fast? It's a shame that there are so many cool things to do with this phone but I can't do them in fear of my battery dying before the end of the day
Sorry, that last question was long, but I did not want 2 separate posts. Thanks guys, I hope you can help!
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1. no. you could however turn data roaming off or use a program to accomplish this such as "tasker"
2. what do you mean you cant turn it on? what does it do when you enable it? use the widget in your notification drop down.
3. turn off background data as well and that should fix your problem.
and as for you other question. 10-14hrs is perfectly normal for battery life on cm6.1. and fyi: its RC1. there is no RC2 for 6.1 as of yet
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1. no. you could however turn data roaming off or use a program to accomplish this such as "tasker"
2. what do you mean you cant turn it on? what does it do when you enable it? use the widget in your notification drop down.
3. turn off background data as well and that should fix your problem.
and as for you other question. 10-14hrs is perfectly normal for battery life on cm6.1. and fyi: its RC1. there is no RC2 for 6.1 as of yet
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Ah thanks for correcting my mistake, and answering my questions. My battery life isn't terrible per se, but I guess I was asking more on how I could make it better (and if I had a rogue app/other battery eater), especially because I see people claiming anywhere from 20-40 hours with a few tweaks.
And regarding the bluetooth issue, it just won't turn on. The option grays out for a few seconds like it usually does when it's initializing, and then it doesn't turn on. The notification widget method does not work either.
Also, there's no other way to turn off auto-sync? I just think it would be a hassle having to turn background data back on everytime I want to use the market. I use JuiceDefender, too, could there possibly be a conflict between the app and my phone's settings?
Man i'm with you here, I use CM6.1 too and love it but the first 30 minutes i unplug the phone from charging i'm already at like 90% battery =/
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Ah thanks for correcting my mistake, and answering my questions. My battery life isn't terrible per se, but I guess I was asking more on how I could make it better (and if I had a rogue app/other battery eater), especially because I see people claiming anywhere from 20-40 hours with a few tweaks.
And regarding the bluetooth issue, it just won't turn on. The option grays out for a few seconds like it usually does when it's initializing, and then it doesn't turn on. The notification widget method does not work either.
Also, there's no other way to turn off auto-sync? I just think it would be a hassle having to turn background data back on everytime I want to use the market. I use JuiceDefender, too, could there possibly be a conflict between the app and my phone's settings?
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I had the same problem with my Bluetooth recently. When I try to search for devices the phone locks up and I have to pull the battery. Wonder if this is a kernel issue. I am on snap
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I had the same problem with my Bluetooth recently. When I try to search for devices the phone locks up and I have to pull the battery. Wonder if this is a kernel issue. I am on snap
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Yep, I'm on Snap too; must be it.
Another thing; I've got a friend on Stock 2.2 Sense (battery sucking widgets filling the home screen, etc) with 100% brightness and mobile data constantly on and he gets better battery life than me (20+ hours!) What is going on!?!?!
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Another thing; I've got a friend on Stock 2.2 Sense (battery sucking widgets filling the home screen, etc) with 100% brightness and mobile data constantly on and he gets better battery life than me (20+ hours!) What is going on!?!?!
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never heard of such a thing on stock......
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never heard of such a thing on stock......
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I couldn't believe it either, he had 3G on all day and everything and we barely get any signal at all in class. On for almost 8hrs with more than 70% left. I was at about 53%
I'm running CM6.1 RC2, and the past couple of days I have experienced excessive drain, mainly in the first 50%. I attached a picture of the issue. I went to spare parts battery history to see the network usage, since in the about phone battery usage cell standby was 84% of the battery usage, and under network usage there was just an entry for 0, using the most network. When I clicked on '0' the settings application crashed. Yesterday it dropped 35% in 2.5 hours, before it slowed down. It was ridiculous, never used to have this problem, and the battery is only a couple of weeks old so it has to be software. Today it is at 53% after 7.5 hours, which is pretty decent, but at around 70% I disabled 3g and background data to save some energy for a few hours. Is there any way of figuring out what is causing this, or should I reflash? Could it be a CM6.1 RC2 bug? Anyone else having this issue? Thanks in advance
BTW I have no idea why the dialer was so high in usage I only had like MAYBE 15 minutes total of voice calls in 2 hours. The 0 is what I'm concerned about.
Anyone? Bump? No one else is having the issue? Still happening to me on RC3.
I've been getting that problem too.
I used to have battery life of up to 4 days (Mostly standby), now I'm lucky if I get 1.5 (Same usage).
I went in to spare parts and it crashed for me too.
Battery drain here too since cm 6.1
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Well '0' is he system's ID, 0 is root. In the graph the blue is bytes sent, red is bytes received. Have you checked other usage like CPU usage? That might be a better indicator of what's using your battery. Then from there you can start to narrow it down to a specific process or app. I'm using the latest nightly and don't have that issue, never have. I use a bit more battery than I think I should but nothing crazy.
Do you have wifi or bluetooth on? Those drain your battery like no other.
I havent used wifi at all today, unplugged at around 6:30, it's 3:45 now and I'm at 63%, but from around 9:50 to 11:45 and then from 12:20 to 2:20 I had airplane mode enabled since the time without a signal was at 70%, very low signal area. So it seems like for only 4 hours or maybe 5~ of non airplane mode time I should be at above 63%. I only had wifi on for a half an hour today. I'm considering going back to stock for a few days just to see the battery life comparison, and then nandroiding back to CM6.1. I always end up going back to AOSP-based roms in the end. I don't have a data plan on my phone at the moment, getting it today I'm pretty sure, so could all of the blue be from the phone continuously trying to access a website? But other people said they have the same issue and I'm assuming that they have data plans, so that can't be too much related. Hmm.
I also checked cpu usage and such like you suggested, there were a lot of things listed but all but two of them were too small to even have a bar. The two that did have a bar visible were minuscule to put it lightly, so that can't be an issue. Battery use in the about phone area always has cell standby at the top, normally between 40 and 80%. It would seem like there is way too much cell communication going on, moreso than normal. Cell standby stays at the top in even high signal areas, so it's not the signal levels. Kind of stumped here.
Well if the cell is in standby then it's linked to a tower and awaiting activity. Every now and then it 'checks in'. If it's doing that too often then that could seriously drain the battery. You're right though, I'd just switch back. Trouble shooting the exact issue wouldn't be worth the time. Maybe try flashing it again later, could have just been a corrupt download that didn't flash properly.
After conditioning my battery religiously (full to empty with every charge cycle) I am back up to about 15 to 16 hours from full battery to system shut down which is way better than the 10-12 hours I was getting when I first loaded RC2. CR_OTA ROM gave me up to 24-30 hours off of one charge with the exact CPU/2g/3g/wi-fi "routine" as I am using with RC2. Tracked battery usage with System Panel app and RC2 has a steady and even drain pattern ... an even diagonal line down the graph (100% to 0%). Cell standby uses a ridiculous 40% of the battery from full charge! On the stock ROM System Panel app shows plateaus throughout the day when the phone screen is off/sleeping where battery use is virtually non-existent. I'm going to load RC3 today and track the cell standby and battery usage. This time I am not going to use setCPU and just let the ROM run as the CM team designed it to be used and see if anything has changed. I tried this with RC2 and the battery still trended absolutely evenly from 100% to 0%. I can live with a 16 hour battery cycle for the CM ROM because it is very smooth and never has a glitch. The stock ROM is smooth as well but it has some buggy behaviors that I just cannot stand for and it does not run the latest GAPPS.
I've noticed i have exacly the same problem(was actually gonna post it when i found this thread)
Needless to say that on eclair my battery lasted ~48 hours constantly, not its drained in max 24...
The highest I have EVER gotten was 24 hours, and that was on a cm6.1 nightly build, pre RC2. I loaded cr_mod and experienced a HUGE drain. I had airplane mode on, just to test, and it dropped 7% in an hour, in AIRPLANE mode, with no screen on time. I went into spare parts and looked at the usage, and sure enough, "running" was at the top, with 99% of the time spent without sleeping. This has never happened before though, so I can probably attribute that to my modifications. I deleted a few apk's and de-odexed it before I flashed it, and I have a feeling something I did corrupted something else, so I'll flash plain old cr_mod and see where that leaves me. I should probably get back into the habit of full charge/drain every cycle. I used to do that until my battery started lasting longer than I was awake for, so I always had to plug it in at around 15 to 30%. I'll run some more "trials" and see what's going on.
Also, on an unrelated note, I love the stock rom, I always love the sense UI, but I hate HTC_IME compared to the froyo Latin_IME, is there any way at all I could port the froyo Latin_IME to the eclair stock rom?
Edit: also, I flashed dumfuq's OC kernel over cr_mod, could that have been the culprit to the battery drain?
Shouldn't be the culprit. It would drain quicker because of the clock speed but shouldn't be too bad.
Yes Latin_IME should be able to be used with sense. Just delete htc_ime and clicker.apk then install latin_ime and it's corresponding clicker.apk which you can get from various roms'. Btw, clicker is used to calibrate the keyboard so you don't have to install it.
NJAZ, what's the result on using CM6.1 without SetCPU? Big difference or not?
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Shouldn't be the culprit. It would drain quicker because of the clock speed but shouldn't be too bad.
Yes Latin_IME should be able to be used with sense. Just delete htc_ime and clicker.apk then install latin_ime and it's corresponding clicker.apk which you can get from various roms'. Btw, clicker is used to calibrate the keyboard so you don't have to install it.
NJAZ, what's the result on using CM6.1 without SetCPU? Big difference or not?
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Actually, by process of elimination, the kernel was the issue. I remember hearing about there being a bug in the older dumfuq kernels with something idle being null, I really don't remember but it had something to do with sleeping. I flashed pure CR_mod and then 3.5 dumfuq and I experienced the same issue where it wouldn't sleep. I flashed 4.0, but I think it's too soon to determine whether or not the same issue with sleep is occurring.
I tried doing what you said with LatinIME.apk, I even imported the lib file from /system/lib on CM6.1, but the it was nowhere to be found in the system when I booted. It wasn't under keyboard settings, and HTC_IME was gone. I figured it was an incompatibility between froyo and eclair, since the stock sense rom is eclair and the LatinIME.apk is from a froyo ROM. Do I have to something more than just adb push the apk and lib file? I also tried installing it with a file manager, and no surprise, problem parsing the package. It's a system apk so I didnt expect it to be able to install via a file manager. Do I have to use adb install instead of adb push? I'm wondering if htc IME is so wired into the system that it won't work that way. What if I rename LatinIME.apk to htcime.apk or whatever the name of HTCime is and see if that works, because the system may be is treating that as the stock android keyboard, rather than a third party one, because it is labeled touch input in settings, just like LatinIME in aosp roms.
I'll experiment some more I guess
edit: Nevermind, 4.0 is draining as well, albeit less rapidly. Ah well. I guess I'll have to go back to CM6.1 if I want to do overclock. Shame, I love sense so much.
ANOTHER edit: nevermind, you were right, it isn't the kernel at all. It happens when I turn wifi off. I'm assuming that's because I don't have a data plan so it's continually retrying a server that it can't access. I don't know why it didn't do this on the stock HTC kernel, but I'm pretty sure it's the issue. If I turn wifi AND mobile data connection off, it stays at normal drain as well. Well, I'm at 11% and my battery app is estimating roughly 1 hour and 20 minutes remaining, so I don't know if that's GOOD, but I'll give it a good full charge tonight and run it tomorrow. I hopefully will have data activated tomorrow so I can really test it.
Hey guys new to the slide forum but not new to the site. I come from the G1 thread and we had the similar problem. How is your battery life on a 2.1 ROM? I have my phone rooted with a Sense ROM and it has 2.2 and i do see a bad battery drain as well. I remember froyo ROMs battery life may not be the greatest yet. I remember that was always a big problem over there and it looks like it still hurts here. Have you tried setcpu settings?
Maybe this information will help, i forgot to mention last time i posted that i'm not using a HTC device, i'm using Samsung Galaxy S, and there are more ppl with this problem on our forum aswell, so maybe someone can use this information correctly, i mean, it's either a program that's doing this or some strange freaky froyo process that not everybody has? or idk..
We'll need to get a log or something from one of the phones doing this and see if we can pinpoint the issue. Anyone experiencing this issue using compcache? Maybe it's doing some sort of background compression/decompression or swap is swapping too much while the phone is 'off'. Like I said, we'll need a log dump uploaded so we can sift through it.
As far as the latin_ime, try getting the one from a 2.1 vanilla rom. Check the slide rom bible for the 'senseless' roms like CM5 or something. That should do it.
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We'll need to get a log or something from one of the phones doing this and see if we can pinpoint the issue. Anyone experiencing this issue using compcache? Maybe it's doing some sort of background compression/decompression or swap is swapping too much while the phone is 'off'. Like I said, we'll need a log dump uploaded so we can sift through it.
As far as the latin_ime, try getting the one from a 2.1 vanilla rom. Check the slide rom bible for the 'senseless' roms like CM5 or something. That should do it.
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Well my desire was to get the froyo latinIME onto eclair, since it's prediction engine was so much improved, but I'm getting used to HTC_IME so it doesn't matter.
As for the battery, for me at least, running the cmkernel from dumfuq, v4.0, I get BETTER battery life than the stock HTC kernel. Weird right? If I enable data I get tons of blue in spare parts, under network usage, for things like calendar and contacts. I'll have to assume that's because of the lack of data plan, my data plan doesn't become effective until december 9th. Otherwise, I have no excessive drain. It must be a cm6 issue, with cell polling. Cell standby was always up in the 70%+ range in battery usage in cm6, and on the stock rom it's around 27%. Wi-fi and display are highest, and I still get 20-25 hours.
I agree, to pinpoint the cause of the problem in cm6, someone needs a log to analyze, I'm not actually that smart with these things, nor am I running cm anymore, so can't really help there, but it'd be a good start.
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Well my desire was to get the froyo latinIME onto eclair, since it's prediction engine was so much improved, but I'm getting used to HTC_IME so it doesn't matter.
As for the battery, for me at least, running the cmkernel from dumfuq, v4.0, I get BETTER battery life than the stock HTC kernel. Weird right? If I enable data I get tons of blue in spare parts, under network usage, for things like calendar and contacts. I'll have to assume that's because of the lack of data plan, my data plan doesn't become effective until december 9th. Otherwise, I have no excessive drain. It must be a cm6 issue, with cell polling. Cell standby was always up in the 70%+ range in battery usage in cm6, and on the stock rom it's around 27%. Wi-fi and display are highest, and I still get 20-25 hours.
I agree, to pinpoint the cause of the problem in cm6, someone needs a log to analyze, I'm not actually that smart with these things, nor am I running cm anymore, so can't really help there, but it'd be a good start.
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Well I just recently saw this almost exact same issue (maybe not as extreme) on the samsung tablet running Cyanogen. They removed the phone, telephony, mms, and one more .apk to resolve it. This issue was caused by the lack of a use for those .apks but the system was still using them... a lot. It seemed similar but not exact, maybe some of us more tech savvy people can look into those and see if there's an issue.
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Well I just recently saw this almost exact same issue (maybe not as extreme) on the samsung tablet running Cyanogen. They removed the phone, telephony, mms, and one more .apk to resolve it. This issue was caused by the lack of a use for those .apks but the system was still using them... a lot. It seemed similar but not exact, maybe some of us more tech savvy people can look into those and see if there's an issue.
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Yeah that'd be cool. It must have something to do with that, since it's the cell radio sucking battery.
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I flashed 6.1.0 stable, battery drain seems to be slightly less. I'm still at around 5 or 10% below where I was at this time on stock, with 9.5 hours off the charger, current level 57%. Although, I did use airplane mode for almost 2 hours, so really I'm like 10 or 20% below where I should be. I just can't figure it out, cell standby is at like 80% usage in this ROM. It's ridiculous, is it the polling intervals or something? How can it be so much less battery efficient than stock?
I flashed 6.1 RC2 with a low battery and had trouble with battery life. TMO's service was acting very strange for a couple of weeks and my cell standby was consuming a lot of juice. Flashed 6.1 RC3 with a well conditioned full battery. At first I used no setCPU just to see how things would go ... 11 hours from full battery to empty. Added setCPU to RC3 and got 27+ hours out of a full charge. Either TMO fixed it's towers or RC3 was better with cell standby because my network usage was not cranking overtime like it had been. Finally, I flashed 6.1 stable with setCPU and I average around 22 to 24 hours on one charge.
One observsation - when I first flashed RC2 I was really into my phone again. I was constantly tweaking it and flipping through options, testing apps, digging new Gapps, etc. ... bottom line I was just using my device waaaaay more than usual and I think that played a huge role in my (supposed) poor battery performance. All seems to be well with 6.1 stable.
Hi all, this is my first post and I'm a n00b to rooting, but don't let that stop you from reading on since I'm an advanced user and hope I can add some value here. Honestly, don't know what took me so long to do this. Posting to the Q&A forum since I can't yet post to the RC1 Dev forum.
My main goals for rooting were to get out from under Sprint's downgrade of my Swype beta (I should never have installed that OTA update, duh), upgrade to GB, and get better performance (battery especially).
I tried lots of the GB ROMs so far and experienced some of the reported problems like cycling reboots, slow/non-responsive market, CM skate anim cycling, etc. Some ROMs had swype, some didn't and most produced the licensing issue discussed in these forums when trying to install the latest beta.
Long story short, I've found a very stable and fast performing combo that I thought I'd share, and ask a question about. Here's what I did:
In recovery, Format_all, wipe data, system, cache, dalvik.
Install RC1, install the latest GB google apps and restart.
3G performance was piss poor, and I want wimax (more Geeees!), so I installed the toast wimax kernel (and antipasto font which I'm loving), cleared caches again, restarted and now 3G performance was faster than I think it has ever been. [EDIT: WiFi now an issue] and GPS are fast and stable. Best part, I was able to download and install the very latest Swype beta on this ROM.
A couple things that need addressing though:
'Cell standby' is a somewhat high percentage battery drain which I'll try to tackle through other reported methods (could be wimax searching/standby?). That said, battery life is still very good and way better than sprint/sense, even under heavy/constant use.
USB issues: Enable USB debugging and notify. Icon shows in notification bar. Disable debugging, but leave notify checked. Debugging icon still shows. Tied to this is the inability to select the mount/charge options, which others have recently reported in the RC1 Dev forum. So can't mount to PC. Any updates on how to resolve?
WiFi is now non-functional on my office AP.
WiMax control settings not showing up since they aren't there with this ROM/kernel combo for some reason. Any/all ideas welcome on this point too.
Slow market downloads, even though speedtest shows 527kbps down.
Thanks again everyone for this great community!
I haven't had any luck with my phone on my office AP (3COM) since I got this darn phone. For some odd reason it gets the wrong gateway and I have to set it up manually from the terminal if I want to use it after connecting. Check your gateway when you connect and see what you are getting.
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[*]WiMax control settings not showing up since they aren't there with this ROM/kernel combo for some reason. Any/all ideas welcome on this point too.
Thanks again everyone for this great community!
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WiMax isn't in RC1 yet. You can get an alpha build that Shinzul has up. Or wait until the Final release which should have WiMax and HDMI working.
Thanks, I'll check the gateway, and will check out Shinzul's alpha.
Had my first auto reboot today, and Sms is not working right (yes, less than 160 chars and not mms). Might have spoken too soon about this combo...
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admang said:
Thanks, I'll check the gateway, and will check out Shinzul's alpha.
Had my first auto reboot today, and Sms is not working right (yes, less than 160 chars and not mms). Might have spoken too soon about this combo...
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Wait till the final release. It will be more stable.
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admang said:
A couple things that need addressing though:
'Cell standby' is a somewhat high percentage battery drain which I'll try to tackle through other reported methods (could be wimax searching/standby?). That said, battery life is still very good and way better than sprint/sense, even under heavy/constant use.
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Keep in mind that the "Percentages" will always total a 100%. Something will always be big.
So to me I WANT TO See Cell Standby be high. That means nothing stupid in the OS is chewing it up. And Cell Standby isn't effected all that much except the Radio Firmware (and settings) !! So be careful what you wish for.
The problem for me is, on sense you can uncheck radio always on to remove that cell standby huge drain. On froyo you can use juice defender. But on cm7 you can do neither. So I need to turn it on and off manually. Very annoying, anybody have a solution?
If you install CM7 nightly build #6 (today's build), it now has support for WiMax and SMS splitting.
juice defender is failing me. and i reeeeeallly hate turning data on and off manually. any suggestions? i'm new to aosp so i'm a bit lost rigt now.
Just use the expanded notification bar and toggle data. You're not gonna be able to shut off the radio without airplane mode.
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juice defender is failing me. and i reeeeeallly hate turning data on and off manually. any suggestions? i'm new to aosp so i'm a bit lost rigt now.
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Unfortunately I think some permissions changed within Android 2.3 which CM7 uses and JuiceDefender just doesn't work on it yet. You're only other option is to flash CM6 (Android 2.2) if you must have JuiceDefender working in ASOP.
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Unfortunately I think some permissions changed within Android 2.3 which CM7 uses and JuiceDefender just doesn't work on it yet. You're only other option is to flash CM6 (Android 2.2) if you must have JuiceDefender working in ASOP.
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ya it looks like thats the case. sucks cause it is taking a really high toll on my battery. i hope somebody will put it into one of the next builds soon.
Continuing from my OP, I'm now off RC1 and onto Nightly #12 with WiMax. WiMax when on is a huge battery drain and I'll be doing some post-reading to figure out if someone has found a way to set a WiMax antenna polling frequency so that it can sleep for periods when not connected.
That said, the WiMax is nice and fast...so I only enable it with the notification bar widget when I need speed or talk/data simultaneously. I also use a new version of Setting Profiles (Full version) to toggle the Wimax on/off based on where I am -- note that this is a test version sent to me by the developers as I've been helping them test this feature. So I don't know if it's in the latest market release version, but if you are a paid owner of that app, just email them and ask for it (although the updated market release is likely not far off if it's not out already).
With the XDA-sponsored SetCPU on and no WiMax, I'm actually getting great standby times in the double-digit number of hours, which has been a first for me with this phone! I know there are some great posts out there about manual conditioning of the battery, which I'm eager to try, and other useful battery-related posts.
I am running CM7 RC1 and I have to say I love it. The first couple of days after flashing I was experiencing terrible battery life. I mean 5 hours or less. I finally flashed Savage-Zen kernel and used the "smartass: governor in CM settings. My battery was better, but Cell Standby was still draining all the battery. I wiped the dalvik cache again and it helped some. but I think the best thing I did was disable google backup settings. Keep in mind before I flashed the kernel and battery life was horrible I wasnt using it heavily, WiFi was off completely, I toggled mobile data on and off as needed, and didnt let anything except for weather autosync. I had maybe 10 applications as well. Once I flashed Savage-zen, used smartass, and disabled Backup data to google servers. MY battery lasts over 2 days with moderate usage with mobile data always on and gmail and weather auto synced.
As far as bug-wise, the only thing I have experienced so far is sometimes there is a slight delay when unlocking the phone and getting the lockscreen to show. Sometimes when the button is pressed to unlock, the bottom touch buttons light up, but the lockscreen takes like 5 seconds to appear.
One more thing is the GPS icon stays in the notification area once it has been turned on and back off.
All in all I can say now that I have amazing battery life, I love CM7 and will not use anything else besides CM7. I cannot wait until the stable release is out. GO CyanogenMod Team!
K....I apologize if I missed it, but didn't see a stock jb thread....aside from the one from months ago that has a billion posts. I think a new one is not unreasonable.
Anyway... just curious about what others think.
After debloating it heavily....all T-Mobile and Samsung junk gone and a lot more....and stopping apps from auto starting with autostarts...I'm pretty happy!
GPS took about a minute to lock first time ...but now its quick. And accurate.
It is super smooth after a day of settling.
Going on 14 hours on battery with light to moderate use and at 59 percent left. Seems on par with most stuff I've ran.
I do miss some of the customization ...which will lead me to start flashing soon I'm sure. LOL
But overall....I'm impressed.
Anyone wanna share, ask questions or debate?
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I had it working once on my T989D, it was heavily bloated, still seemed faster than usual leaked builds. Doesn't really matter now though because I can't flash anything based off this official tmob update because every ROM I've tried with it either bootloops or FC`s constantly. A real shame, I looked forward to this for so long, I assume it doesn't work because I have the koodo t989. Waiting on the Telus version to be released.
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I have a T989D also and I've been able to get it to run perfectly fine for over 24 hours.
I have version 1 of Infamous S2 and I had to flash it, wipe cache and dalvik, reboot let settle for ten mins then flash the newest radio or it would keep dropping my koodo radio.
I think the key is wiping cache and dalvik after you flash it, I did also do a full internal wipe and installed from an sd card though.
I didn't see a huge increase in speed. Although it does feel a little smoother.
The increase in battery life has been huge for me though. On ICS I had a terrible average of about 6-8 hours depending on light to moderate use. On Jelly Bean I'm averaging 10-11 hours on more than moderate use.
Do you have a list of what you removed?
I also can't flash any recoveries except the old cwm so that's probably part of my problem.
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I didn't see a huge increase in speed. Although it does feel a little smoother.
The increase in battery life has been huge for me though. On ICS I had a terrible average of about 6-8 hours depending on light to moderate use. On Jelly Bean I'm averaging 10-11 hours on more than moderate use.
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That's pretty decent battery life and what I used to get when on the stock 4.0.4, but my battery life with this one has been worse. It drops below 50% after 4 hours off the charger with the same amount of use as before. I noticed in a developer thread a screenshot of someone getting great battery life as well. Did you root and debloat?
It seems like the OP was able to do that with some success. I really like the performance otherwise, much better improvement over 4.0.4. OP, are you rooted? Also, I searched the Play Store for autostarts and saw a few different options...would you mind sharing which developer's autostarts app you're using? I saw one that's paid and a couple that were free. Thanks!
EDIT: The other thing that's frustrating is when a new text comes through, it just says "New Message Arrived." I used to be able to change that in 4.0.4 to where the text would display in the notification area, but I can't find that on this version. Wondering if TouchWiz did away with it or it's because of my corporate password policy.
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That's pretty decent battery life and what I used to get when on the stock 4.0.4, but my battery life with this one has been worse. It drops below 50% after 4 hours off the charger with the same amount of use as before. I noticed in a developer thread a screenshot of someone getting great battery life as well. Did you root and debloat?
It seems like the OP was able to do that with some success. I really like the performance otherwise, much better improvement over 4.0.4. OP, are you rooted? Also, I searched the Play Store for autostarts and saw a few different options...would you mind sharing which developer's autostarts app you're using? I saw one that's paid and a couple that were free. Thanks!
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The 10-11 hours is even more amazing to me because I've been using my phone way more than usual (Simpsons Tapped Out is addicting)
I did do a full recharge/drain a couple times after upgrading, so maybe that may help you.
These are my steps in case you want to give it a try.
(On a full charge 100%)
I used odin to flash back to ICS stock unrooted
I then used kies to upgrade to JB
After the upgrade, I went into recovery and did a wipe/factory reset for good measure.
Unplugged phone and started setup (Disabled some tmobile bloat)
Used the phone until it ran out of charge.
Charged the phone completely .
Unplugged and drained it completely again.
K....not gonna quote a bunch of stuff....but in response to a few things.
This was my experience, but trying to use the tlle4 Telus radio left me frozen at bootup mostly....I got in a couple times, but it wouldn't let me save my apn settings and I had no signal. Flashed the new jb radio and manually had to enter apn settings, which saved this time...and I was good. Tlle4 has better signal where I live, but the new one works OK.
What did I freeze? Well, mostly anything with T-Mobile or Samsung in its name. Now everything is working fine, so soon I will uninstall and delete them completely.
I use the app specifically called Autostarts. It is a paid app....but gold to me. I stop any app I am familiar with and don't want starting by itself at startup or other events. Especially maps!! Otherwise it seems to run all the time. I disable it in autostarts anywhere I find it. Then it only runs when I start it.
Think I got most things that were directed to me covered.
I also use advanced task killer free. I do not ever autokill apps. I use it as an easy way to kill things after I run them that don't close properly by themselves. Like maps and Canada's the weather network app.
Last night when I plugged in my charger I was at 24 hours and 3 hours screen time with 22 percent remaining. So stock seems no better or worse than most other jb roms I've used.
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I had it working once on my T989D, it was heavily bloated, still seemed faster than usual leaked builds. Doesn't really matter now though because I can't flash anything based off this official tmob update because every ROM I've tried with it either bootloops or FC`s constantly. A real shame, I looked forward to this for so long, I assume it doesn't work because I have the koodo t989. Waiting on the Telus version to be released.
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I'm Telus. Works good! Try flashing the new radio. Then rom. Make sure to wipe cache and davlik after you flash...then reboot.
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That's pretty decent battery life and what I used to get when on the stock 4.0.4, but my battery life with this one has been worse. It drops below 50% after 4 hours off the charger with the same amount of use as before. I noticed in a developer thread a screenshot of someone getting great battery life as well. Did you root and debloat?
It seems like the OP was able to do that with some success. I really like the performance otherwise, much better improvement over 4.0.4. OP, are you rooted? Also, I searched the Play Store for autostarts and saw a few different options...would you mind sharing which developer's autostarts app you're using? I saw one that's paid and a couple that were free. Thanks!
EDIT: The other thing that's frustrating is when a new text comes through, it just says "New Message Arrived." I used to be able to change that in 4.0.4 to where the text would display in the notification area, but I can't find that on this version. Wondering if TouchWiz did away with it or it's because of my corporate password policy.
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Sorry...just saw that. Yes, I'm definitely rooted!
Notification wise....I disable stock messaging notification cause I use handcent.
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That's pretty decent battery life and what I used to get when on the stock 4.0.4, but my battery life with this one has been worse. It drops below 50% after 4 hours off the charger with the same amount of use as before. I noticed in a developer thread a screenshot of someone getting great battery life as well. Did you root and debloat?
It seems like the OP was able to do that with some success. I really like the performance otherwise, much better improvement over 4.0.4. OP, are you rooted? Also, I searched the Play Store for autostarts and saw a few different options...would you mind sharing which developer's autostarts app you're using? I saw one that's paid and a couple that were free. Thanks!
EDIT: The other thing that's frustrating is when a new text comes through, it just says "New Message Arrived." I used to be able to change that in 4.0.4 to where the text would display in the notification area, but I can't find that on this version. Wondering if TouchWiz did away with it or it's because of my corporate password policy.
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The new message thing was bothering me too. After seeing your post I looked more closely at the settings. Open Messaging and then open the settings. Under notification settings check preview message. Now the text will display in the notification area like before.
The JB this phone got is crap. Doesn't the same phone for att Skyrocket get ripple lock screen and multi window? Also we can NOT download the voice files for offline voice recognition.
The Skyrocket port of JB for this phone can do all of that.
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The JB this phone got is crap. Doesn't the same phone for att Skyrocket get ripple lock screen and multi window? Also we can NOT download the voice files for offline voice recognition.
The Skyrocket port of JB for this phone can do all of that.
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I'm using the Embryo rom now. I did try installing the new stock JB rom but it just can't compared to some of the custom roms. I haven't try the roms by ptmr3, Rushing, and Jamison. I'll probably wait for a few more updates before trying the tmobile JB roms. I missing using Wifi-calling sometimes but the Embryo is just a very good rom.