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Hey everyone, last weekend I unrooted and wiped my phone, went back to factory settings, rerooted and installed CM6.1 RC2. I've been enjoying it so far (because I hate Sense UI) but I've got a couple of questions that need answered. Hopefully you all can help me.
CM6
1. Is there a setting to turn off always-on mobile data? I cannot find it.
2. For some odd reason, I cannot turn on bluetooth. I've not had a problem with turning on bluetooth with any other rom. In fact, I remember testing bluetooth the night I installed CM6. Is this an issue with the phone or the rom?
3. No matter how much I turn off Auto-Sync, it turns back on. What is doing this?
Battery Life
1. On average, I get around 10-14 hours battery life a day, maybe a little more if I barely use my phone all day. I've heard a lot of people say that an ideal battery drain with the screen off should be 1-2%/hour, but mine will drain from 6% to even 10% in 40-50 minutes (EDIT: Currently 75% battery left, unplugged for 2hrs 30min, done nothing but use the browser for 5 minutes, download something, and install it)! I use systempanel and spareparts to monitor which apps could possibly be doing this, but none look like they're eating up too much of the battery. I check Facebook 4-5 times a day, use the browser, and check Gmail. I don't use Google Talk. My screen brightness is around 30-40% and I have underclocked when the screen is off with setcpu. What is draining my battery so fast? It's a shame that there are so many cool things to do with this phone but I can't do them in fear of my battery dying before the end of the day
Sorry, that last question was long, but I did not want 2 separate posts. Thanks guys, I hope you can help!
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Hey everyone, last weekend I unrooted and wiped my phone, went back to factory settings, rerooted and installed CM6.1 RC2. I've been enjoying it so far (because I hate Sense UI) but I've got a couple of questions that need answered. Hopefully you all can help me.
CM6
1. Is there a setting to turn off always-on mobile data? I cannot find it.
2. For some odd reason, I cannot turn on bluetooth. I've not had a problem with turning on bluetooth with any other rom. In fact, I remember testing bluetooth the night I installed CM6. Is this an issue with the phone or the rom?
3. No matter how much I turn off Auto-Sync, it turns back on. What is doing this?
Battery Life
1. On average, I get around 10-14 hours battery life a day, maybe a little more if I barely use my phone all day. I've heard a lot of people say that an ideal battery drain with the screen off should be 1-2%/hour, but mine will drain from 6% to even 10% in 40-50 minutes! I use systempanel and spareparts to monitor which apps could possibly be doing this, but none look like they're eating up too much of the battery. I check Facebook 4-5 times a day, use the browser, and check Gmail. I don't use Google Talk. My screen brightness is around 30-40% and I have underclocked when the screen is off with setcpu. What is draining my battery so fast? It's a shame that there are so many cool things to do with this phone but I can't do them in fear of my battery dying before the end of the day
Sorry, that last question was long, but I did not want 2 separate posts. Thanks guys, I hope you can help!
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1. no. you could however turn data roaming off or use a program to accomplish this such as "tasker"
2. what do you mean you cant turn it on? what does it do when you enable it? use the widget in your notification drop down.
3. turn off background data as well and that should fix your problem.
and as for you other question. 10-14hrs is perfectly normal for battery life on cm6.1. and fyi: its RC1. there is no RC2 for 6.1 as of yet
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1. no. you could however turn data roaming off or use a program to accomplish this such as "tasker"
2. what do you mean you cant turn it on? what does it do when you enable it? use the widget in your notification drop down.
3. turn off background data as well and that should fix your problem.
and as for you other question. 10-14hrs is perfectly normal for battery life on cm6.1. and fyi: its RC1. there is no RC2 for 6.1 as of yet
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Ah thanks for correcting my mistake, and answering my questions. My battery life isn't terrible per se, but I guess I was asking more on how I could make it better (and if I had a rogue app/other battery eater), especially because I see people claiming anywhere from 20-40 hours with a few tweaks.
And regarding the bluetooth issue, it just won't turn on. The option grays out for a few seconds like it usually does when it's initializing, and then it doesn't turn on. The notification widget method does not work either.
Also, there's no other way to turn off auto-sync? I just think it would be a hassle having to turn background data back on everytime I want to use the market. I use JuiceDefender, too, could there possibly be a conflict between the app and my phone's settings?
Man i'm with you here, I use CM6.1 too and love it but the first 30 minutes i unplug the phone from charging i'm already at like 90% battery =/
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Ah thanks for correcting my mistake, and answering my questions. My battery life isn't terrible per se, but I guess I was asking more on how I could make it better (and if I had a rogue app/other battery eater), especially because I see people claiming anywhere from 20-40 hours with a few tweaks.
And regarding the bluetooth issue, it just won't turn on. The option grays out for a few seconds like it usually does when it's initializing, and then it doesn't turn on. The notification widget method does not work either.
Also, there's no other way to turn off auto-sync? I just think it would be a hassle having to turn background data back on everytime I want to use the market. I use JuiceDefender, too, could there possibly be a conflict between the app and my phone's settings?
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I had the same problem with my Bluetooth recently. When I try to search for devices the phone locks up and I have to pull the battery. Wonder if this is a kernel issue. I am on snap
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I had the same problem with my Bluetooth recently. When I try to search for devices the phone locks up and I have to pull the battery. Wonder if this is a kernel issue. I am on snap
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Yep, I'm on Snap too; must be it.
Another thing; I've got a friend on Stock 2.2 Sense (battery sucking widgets filling the home screen, etc) with 100% brightness and mobile data constantly on and he gets better battery life than me (20+ hours!) What is going on!?!?!
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Another thing; I've got a friend on Stock 2.2 Sense (battery sucking widgets filling the home screen, etc) with 100% brightness and mobile data constantly on and he gets better battery life than me (20+ hours!) What is going on!?!?!
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never heard of such a thing on stock......
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never heard of such a thing on stock......
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I couldn't believe it either, he had 3G on all day and everything and we barely get any signal at all in class. On for almost 8hrs with more than 70% left. I was at about 53%
I'm running CM6.1 RC2, and the past couple of days I have experienced excessive drain, mainly in the first 50%. I attached a picture of the issue. I went to spare parts battery history to see the network usage, since in the about phone battery usage cell standby was 84% of the battery usage, and under network usage there was just an entry for 0, using the most network. When I clicked on '0' the settings application crashed. Yesterday it dropped 35% in 2.5 hours, before it slowed down. It was ridiculous, never used to have this problem, and the battery is only a couple of weeks old so it has to be software. Today it is at 53% after 7.5 hours, which is pretty decent, but at around 70% I disabled 3g and background data to save some energy for a few hours. Is there any way of figuring out what is causing this, or should I reflash? Could it be a CM6.1 RC2 bug? Anyone else having this issue? Thanks in advance
BTW I have no idea why the dialer was so high in usage I only had like MAYBE 15 minutes total of voice calls in 2 hours. The 0 is what I'm concerned about.
Anyone? Bump? No one else is having the issue? Still happening to me on RC3.
I've been getting that problem too.
I used to have battery life of up to 4 days (Mostly standby), now I'm lucky if I get 1.5 (Same usage).
I went in to spare parts and it crashed for me too.
Battery drain here too since cm 6.1
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Well '0' is he system's ID, 0 is root. In the graph the blue is bytes sent, red is bytes received. Have you checked other usage like CPU usage? That might be a better indicator of what's using your battery. Then from there you can start to narrow it down to a specific process or app. I'm using the latest nightly and don't have that issue, never have. I use a bit more battery than I think I should but nothing crazy.
Do you have wifi or bluetooth on? Those drain your battery like no other.
I havent used wifi at all today, unplugged at around 6:30, it's 3:45 now and I'm at 63%, but from around 9:50 to 11:45 and then from 12:20 to 2:20 I had airplane mode enabled since the time without a signal was at 70%, very low signal area. So it seems like for only 4 hours or maybe 5~ of non airplane mode time I should be at above 63%. I only had wifi on for a half an hour today. I'm considering going back to stock for a few days just to see the battery life comparison, and then nandroiding back to CM6.1. I always end up going back to AOSP-based roms in the end. I don't have a data plan on my phone at the moment, getting it today I'm pretty sure, so could all of the blue be from the phone continuously trying to access a website? But other people said they have the same issue and I'm assuming that they have data plans, so that can't be too much related. Hmm.
I also checked cpu usage and such like you suggested, there were a lot of things listed but all but two of them were too small to even have a bar. The two that did have a bar visible were minuscule to put it lightly, so that can't be an issue. Battery use in the about phone area always has cell standby at the top, normally between 40 and 80%. It would seem like there is way too much cell communication going on, moreso than normal. Cell standby stays at the top in even high signal areas, so it's not the signal levels. Kind of stumped here.
Well if the cell is in standby then it's linked to a tower and awaiting activity. Every now and then it 'checks in'. If it's doing that too often then that could seriously drain the battery. You're right though, I'd just switch back. Trouble shooting the exact issue wouldn't be worth the time. Maybe try flashing it again later, could have just been a corrupt download that didn't flash properly.
After conditioning my battery religiously (full to empty with every charge cycle) I am back up to about 15 to 16 hours from full battery to system shut down which is way better than the 10-12 hours I was getting when I first loaded RC2. CR_OTA ROM gave me up to 24-30 hours off of one charge with the exact CPU/2g/3g/wi-fi "routine" as I am using with RC2. Tracked battery usage with System Panel app and RC2 has a steady and even drain pattern ... an even diagonal line down the graph (100% to 0%). Cell standby uses a ridiculous 40% of the battery from full charge! On the stock ROM System Panel app shows plateaus throughout the day when the phone screen is off/sleeping where battery use is virtually non-existent. I'm going to load RC3 today and track the cell standby and battery usage. This time I am not going to use setCPU and just let the ROM run as the CM team designed it to be used and see if anything has changed. I tried this with RC2 and the battery still trended absolutely evenly from 100% to 0%. I can live with a 16 hour battery cycle for the CM ROM because it is very smooth and never has a glitch. The stock ROM is smooth as well but it has some buggy behaviors that I just cannot stand for and it does not run the latest GAPPS.
I've noticed i have exacly the same problem(was actually gonna post it when i found this thread)
Needless to say that on eclair my battery lasted ~48 hours constantly, not its drained in max 24...
The highest I have EVER gotten was 24 hours, and that was on a cm6.1 nightly build, pre RC2. I loaded cr_mod and experienced a HUGE drain. I had airplane mode on, just to test, and it dropped 7% in an hour, in AIRPLANE mode, with no screen on time. I went into spare parts and looked at the usage, and sure enough, "running" was at the top, with 99% of the time spent without sleeping. This has never happened before though, so I can probably attribute that to my modifications. I deleted a few apk's and de-odexed it before I flashed it, and I have a feeling something I did corrupted something else, so I'll flash plain old cr_mod and see where that leaves me. I should probably get back into the habit of full charge/drain every cycle. I used to do that until my battery started lasting longer than I was awake for, so I always had to plug it in at around 15 to 30%. I'll run some more "trials" and see what's going on.
Also, on an unrelated note, I love the stock rom, I always love the sense UI, but I hate HTC_IME compared to the froyo Latin_IME, is there any way at all I could port the froyo Latin_IME to the eclair stock rom?
Edit: also, I flashed dumfuq's OC kernel over cr_mod, could that have been the culprit to the battery drain?
Shouldn't be the culprit. It would drain quicker because of the clock speed but shouldn't be too bad.
Yes Latin_IME should be able to be used with sense. Just delete htc_ime and clicker.apk then install latin_ime and it's corresponding clicker.apk which you can get from various roms'. Btw, clicker is used to calibrate the keyboard so you don't have to install it.
NJAZ, what's the result on using CM6.1 without SetCPU? Big difference or not?
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Shouldn't be the culprit. It would drain quicker because of the clock speed but shouldn't be too bad.
Yes Latin_IME should be able to be used with sense. Just delete htc_ime and clicker.apk then install latin_ime and it's corresponding clicker.apk which you can get from various roms'. Btw, clicker is used to calibrate the keyboard so you don't have to install it.
NJAZ, what's the result on using CM6.1 without SetCPU? Big difference or not?
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Actually, by process of elimination, the kernel was the issue. I remember hearing about there being a bug in the older dumfuq kernels with something idle being null, I really don't remember but it had something to do with sleeping. I flashed pure CR_mod and then 3.5 dumfuq and I experienced the same issue where it wouldn't sleep. I flashed 4.0, but I think it's too soon to determine whether or not the same issue with sleep is occurring.
I tried doing what you said with LatinIME.apk, I even imported the lib file from /system/lib on CM6.1, but the it was nowhere to be found in the system when I booted. It wasn't under keyboard settings, and HTC_IME was gone. I figured it was an incompatibility between froyo and eclair, since the stock sense rom is eclair and the LatinIME.apk is from a froyo ROM. Do I have to something more than just adb push the apk and lib file? I also tried installing it with a file manager, and no surprise, problem parsing the package. It's a system apk so I didnt expect it to be able to install via a file manager. Do I have to use adb install instead of adb push? I'm wondering if htc IME is so wired into the system that it won't work that way. What if I rename LatinIME.apk to htcime.apk or whatever the name of HTCime is and see if that works, because the system may be is treating that as the stock android keyboard, rather than a third party one, because it is labeled touch input in settings, just like LatinIME in aosp roms.
I'll experiment some more I guess
edit: Nevermind, 4.0 is draining as well, albeit less rapidly. Ah well. I guess I'll have to go back to CM6.1 if I want to do overclock. Shame, I love sense so much.
ANOTHER edit: nevermind, you were right, it isn't the kernel at all. It happens when I turn wifi off. I'm assuming that's because I don't have a data plan so it's continually retrying a server that it can't access. I don't know why it didn't do this on the stock HTC kernel, but I'm pretty sure it's the issue. If I turn wifi AND mobile data connection off, it stays at normal drain as well. Well, I'm at 11% and my battery app is estimating roughly 1 hour and 20 minutes remaining, so I don't know if that's GOOD, but I'll give it a good full charge tonight and run it tomorrow. I hopefully will have data activated tomorrow so I can really test it.
Hey guys new to the slide forum but not new to the site. I come from the G1 thread and we had the similar problem. How is your battery life on a 2.1 ROM? I have my phone rooted with a Sense ROM and it has 2.2 and i do see a bad battery drain as well. I remember froyo ROMs battery life may not be the greatest yet. I remember that was always a big problem over there and it looks like it still hurts here. Have you tried setcpu settings?
Maybe this information will help, i forgot to mention last time i posted that i'm not using a HTC device, i'm using Samsung Galaxy S, and there are more ppl with this problem on our forum aswell, so maybe someone can use this information correctly, i mean, it's either a program that's doing this or some strange freaky froyo process that not everybody has? or idk..
We'll need to get a log or something from one of the phones doing this and see if we can pinpoint the issue. Anyone experiencing this issue using compcache? Maybe it's doing some sort of background compression/decompression or swap is swapping too much while the phone is 'off'. Like I said, we'll need a log dump uploaded so we can sift through it.
As far as the latin_ime, try getting the one from a 2.1 vanilla rom. Check the slide rom bible for the 'senseless' roms like CM5 or something. That should do it.
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We'll need to get a log or something from one of the phones doing this and see if we can pinpoint the issue. Anyone experiencing this issue using compcache? Maybe it's doing some sort of background compression/decompression or swap is swapping too much while the phone is 'off'. Like I said, we'll need a log dump uploaded so we can sift through it.
As far as the latin_ime, try getting the one from a 2.1 vanilla rom. Check the slide rom bible for the 'senseless' roms like CM5 or something. That should do it.
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Well my desire was to get the froyo latinIME onto eclair, since it's prediction engine was so much improved, but I'm getting used to HTC_IME so it doesn't matter.
As for the battery, for me at least, running the cmkernel from dumfuq, v4.0, I get BETTER battery life than the stock HTC kernel. Weird right? If I enable data I get tons of blue in spare parts, under network usage, for things like calendar and contacts. I'll have to assume that's because of the lack of data plan, my data plan doesn't become effective until december 9th. Otherwise, I have no excessive drain. It must be a cm6 issue, with cell polling. Cell standby was always up in the 70%+ range in battery usage in cm6, and on the stock rom it's around 27%. Wi-fi and display are highest, and I still get 20-25 hours.
I agree, to pinpoint the cause of the problem in cm6, someone needs a log to analyze, I'm not actually that smart with these things, nor am I running cm anymore, so can't really help there, but it'd be a good start.
MusicMan374 said:
Well my desire was to get the froyo latinIME onto eclair, since it's prediction engine was so much improved, but I'm getting used to HTC_IME so it doesn't matter.
As for the battery, for me at least, running the cmkernel from dumfuq, v4.0, I get BETTER battery life than the stock HTC kernel. Weird right? If I enable data I get tons of blue in spare parts, under network usage, for things like calendar and contacts. I'll have to assume that's because of the lack of data plan, my data plan doesn't become effective until december 9th. Otherwise, I have no excessive drain. It must be a cm6 issue, with cell polling. Cell standby was always up in the 70%+ range in battery usage in cm6, and on the stock rom it's around 27%. Wi-fi and display are highest, and I still get 20-25 hours.
I agree, to pinpoint the cause of the problem in cm6, someone needs a log to analyze, I'm not actually that smart with these things, nor am I running cm anymore, so can't really help there, but it'd be a good start.
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Well I just recently saw this almost exact same issue (maybe not as extreme) on the samsung tablet running Cyanogen. They removed the phone, telephony, mms, and one more .apk to resolve it. This issue was caused by the lack of a use for those .apks but the system was still using them... a lot. It seemed similar but not exact, maybe some of us more tech savvy people can look into those and see if there's an issue.
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Well I just recently saw this almost exact same issue (maybe not as extreme) on the samsung tablet running Cyanogen. They removed the phone, telephony, mms, and one more .apk to resolve it. This issue was caused by the lack of a use for those .apks but the system was still using them... a lot. It seemed similar but not exact, maybe some of us more tech savvy people can look into those and see if there's an issue.
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Yeah that'd be cool. It must have something to do with that, since it's the cell radio sucking battery.
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I flashed 6.1.0 stable, battery drain seems to be slightly less. I'm still at around 5 or 10% below where I was at this time on stock, with 9.5 hours off the charger, current level 57%. Although, I did use airplane mode for almost 2 hours, so really I'm like 10 or 20% below where I should be. I just can't figure it out, cell standby is at like 80% usage in this ROM. It's ridiculous, is it the polling intervals or something? How can it be so much less battery efficient than stock?
I flashed 6.1 RC2 with a low battery and had trouble with battery life. TMO's service was acting very strange for a couple of weeks and my cell standby was consuming a lot of juice. Flashed 6.1 RC3 with a well conditioned full battery. At first I used no setCPU just to see how things would go ... 11 hours from full battery to empty. Added setCPU to RC3 and got 27+ hours out of a full charge. Either TMO fixed it's towers or RC3 was better with cell standby because my network usage was not cranking overtime like it had been. Finally, I flashed 6.1 stable with setCPU and I average around 22 to 24 hours on one charge.
One observsation - when I first flashed RC2 I was really into my phone again. I was constantly tweaking it and flipping through options, testing apps, digging new Gapps, etc. ... bottom line I was just using my device waaaaay more than usual and I think that played a huge role in my (supposed) poor battery performance. All seems to be well with 6.1 stable.
Hi,
i have changed from stock to Revolution HD today, because the dialer of the stock rom (since the GB update) drains my battery up to 50%.
But the problem is not fixed with Rev HD. My Dialer is still the top 1.
Is it possible to fix this bug in the same way as the cyanogen rom has fixed it?
Here is the thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=929054
And here the changeset:
http://review.cyanogenmod.com/#change,3904
Or is this option available in Rev HD?
Home Screen > Menu > Settings > Call Settings> Turn over silence
I could not find it in the specified settings.
I have no apps installed. It is a fresh image of Rev HD.
I have read the linked battery threads too, but i think it looks like the same problem as in the CM7 rom.
Many thanks.
Kase
edit: I am using it on the Desire HD
There's been some discussion around this and in my opinion (which means it could well be wrong) it's not an actual issue.
I don't experience any more battery drain when Dialler is listed than when it isn't, and the details for Dialler in the list typically show it as only being awake for a couple of seconds over a full day.
Personally I think either HTC (or google or whoever) have combined several system processes and listed them together as "Dialler" making it show higher up the list, or it's a bug in how they calculate battery use in Gingerbread.
It might well be that it's continually using the sensor as was presumed in cm7 but I would expect to see more evidence of reduced battery life that were the case.
As I say, I might be wrong
//sent from my Desire HD using Tapatalk; all errors entirely intentional.
Hi hopscotchjunkie,
thx 4 your reply.
I am very sure that it really drains the battery. I have tested it a few times with the stock GB rom.
If i reboot my phone and never do a phone call, the dialer is not in the list. My battery time increases from 2 days to at least 3 days on low usage (only 3g on, but auto sync off). With Froyo, i always had up to 2.5 days (and no dialer problem).
Maybe you can test it too (i know it is hard to reach 2 or more days without phone call )?
I will install CM7 the next weeks (if i have some free time), and test the battery usage with this rom. But comparing 2 completely different roms is very inaccurate i think. But i will give it a try anyway.
I know whilst the problem may sound related but just to be on the safe side of things, ensure that you have the recommended Radio and the compatible RIL installed on the phone. The Radio and the RIL will vary depending on the ROM that you use, and as far as I know both AR and CM7 all have listed their recommended Radio. The RIL you will have to match depending on the version of the Radio. Both Radio and RIL library is avaliable in this forum.
As others have mentioned possible bug, once the phone has been fully charged, go into CWM and clear the Battery Statistics. This will allow a sort of "restart" for the battery life articulation.
I am using CM7 (with custom kernel) and generally speaking, from what you have described, I havent had such issues before with either ROMs, although the last AR I used was prior to the 2.3 releases but have since been with CM7, noticably higher benchmarks, possibly better battery life, but definitely free up more RAM, which I suppose = better battery life?
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Or is this option available in Rev HD?
Home Screen > Menu > Settings > Call Settings> Turn over silence
I could not find it in the specified settings.
Kase
edit: I am using it on the Desire HD
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Its listed under Settings > Sound > Incoming Calls. (Gingerbread)
Disable all the three, worked for me! - Im getting about 3 mA in standby = 2 % Usage over night.
BTW: I`m running a DHD with Revolution HD 5.1.9 (No-sense++) with the ADW Launcher EX - Recommended!
I'm running ARHD 5.1.9 with nosense++ and launcher pro Plus and i don't experience the problem.
Edit: I don't have the three options disabled.
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Hi hopscotchjunkie,
thx 4 your reply.
I am very sure that it really drains the battery. I have tested it a few times with the stock GB rom.
If i reboot my phone and never do a phone call, the dialer is not in the list. My battery time increases from 2 days to at least 3 days on low usage (only 3g on, but auto sync off). With Froyo, i always had up to 2.5 days (and no dialer problem).
Maybe you can test it too (i know it is hard to reach 2 or more days without phone call )?
I will install CM7 the next weeks (if i have some free time), and test the battery usage with this rom. But comparing 2 completely different roms is very inaccurate i think. But i will give it a try anyway.
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Wow, you battery is a beast if it can last up to three days, no matter how little you use the device. Back to the topic, it may be worth backing up your settings and try a factory reset, although you probably did in first place when you installed Revo HD. You may want to look at uninstalling Sense dialer and get a replacement and see how it goes. There are a few good ones out there.
I hope it helps.
Hi all, thanks for your replies!!!
I have done some tests now with the AR 5.19 ROM.
If i reboot my device and do not start the dialer, the phone drains my battery 15% in 10 hours. No usage, only 3g on with whatsapp and icq, but no messages written at all. I have tested it many times with different battery charge levels, its always about 15%.
=> Battery usage: 50% phone standby, 50% phone inactive (i dont know the exact english words).
If i reboot my phone, start the dialer, but still no usage, same conditions, the phone drains the battery about 30% in 10 hours. Also tested many times with different battery charge levels.
=> Battery usage: 50% dialer, 25% phone standy, 25% phone inactive.
With the dialer, my battery is <10% after 2 days of low usage. If i reboot the phone and never start it, my battery is ~40% after 2 days, same usage.
I am very sure, the dialer drains the battery with the exact amount displayed in the battery stats. It matches 100% for me.
@0semaj0: I use the recommend RIL and Radio for AR 5.1.9, i have done a full wipe before and cleared my battery stats.
@HeiDuDer: I also tested this, deactivating the 3 options you have described does not change anything, the dialer is still in my battery stats after i used it at least once. Even after reboot.
@fdelosriossanchez: I will give it a try. If i use the nosense script, do i have the stock dialer??? Maybe i will test AR 5.1.9 with nosense.
I will post an update in a few days. Thanks to all!
KaseDesire said:
Hi all, thanks for your replies!!!
I have done some tests now with the AR 5.19 ROM.
If i reboot my device and do not start the dialer, the phone drains my battery 15% in 10 hours. No usage, only 3g on with whatsapp and icq, but no messages written at all. I have tested it many times with different battery charge levels, its always about 15%.
=> Battery usage: 50% phone standby, 50% phone inactive (i dont know the exact english words).
If i reboot my phone, start the dialer, but still no usage, same conditions, the phone drains the battery about 30% in 10 hours. Also tested many times with different battery charge levels.
=> Battery usage: 50% dialer, 25% phone standy, 25% phone inactive.
With the dialer, my battery is <10% after 2 days of low usage. If i reboot the phone and never start it, my battery is ~40% after 2 days, same usage.
I am very sure, the dialer drains the battery with the exact amount displayed in the battery stats. It matches 100% for me.
@0semaj0: I use the recommend RIL and Radio for AR 5.1.9, i have done a full wipe before and cleared my battery stats.
@HeiDuDer: I also tested this, deactivating the 3 options you have described does not change anything, the dialer is still in my battery stats after i used it at least once. Even after reboot.
@fdelosriossanchez: I will give it a try. If i use the nosense script, do i have the stock dialer??? Maybe i will test AR 5.1.9 with nosense.
I will post an update in a few days. Thanks to all!
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Bumping this with my own observations, deactivating the 3 options doesen't have an effect on the battery life, and the battery drains far faster after a reboot if I make a single phonecall to start the proximity sensor polling bug
Hey everyone,
I'm under 10 posts, so I have to post here. With that said, I have a question.
I'm running nil's Business Gingersense 3.0 v2.3. When my 3G is on, my battery life seems to be sucked down about 2-3% every minute or so. Now, when I installed this ROM I did a full wipe of data/cache, dalvik, battery stats, return to stock. I also followed his instructions in his thread on his ROM about battery saving. In addition, I did my normal turning off syncing, setting apps to update only when opened, turning off all vibration features, etc. My battery still drops that 2-3% every minute.
I'm curious if anyone else is having/had this problem? If so, did you fix it?
I'm going to try Tiny's newest release kernel tonight, but wanted to see if anyone else had the same thing(s) going on with their DInc that I have.
Thanks in advance for you help!
Curious if you've noticed this after a full charge and after the battery percentage drops below ~94%?
I'm in the same boat with less than 10 posts so I also need to ask here. I am noticing that the HTC weather app seems to indicate a very different location than the one I am in. I also notice it with the weather bug app, so it seems to be a location issue and not an app issue. Sometimes if I go into settings/location and uncheck/recheck use wireless networks it corrects itself and sometimes it needs a reboot. Any ideas why or how to fix it? Thanks.
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Curious if you've noticed this after a full charge and after the battery percentage drops below ~94%?
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Hey Bull_Moose,
I refrained from posting a response until after I gave Tiny's kernel a couple of days of use. I haven't noticed the drop as much with the new kernel as well as switching out the Yahoo mail app for K9 Mail. It still seems to be dropping a little quicker than I'd like, but perhaps that's because I am actually seeing percentage numbers now and thus it's creating a simulated quick drop effect.
I'll give it some more testing, but it seems better now after those two fixes. Like I said, not as good as it seemed with Froyo custom ROMs or even the Gingerbread OTA leak, but perhaps that because of all the little tweaks I can do with the ROM.
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Hey Bull_Moose,
I refrained from posting a response until after I gave Tiny's kernel a couple of days of use. I haven't noticed the drop as much with the new kernel as well as switching out the Yahoo mail app for K9 Mail. It still seems to be dropping a little quicker than I'd like, but perhaps that's because I am actually seeing percentage numbers now and thus it's creating a simulated quick drop effect.
I'll give it some more testing, but it seems better now after those two fixes. Like I said, not as good as it seemed with Froyo custom ROMs or even the Gingerbread OTA leak, but perhaps that because of all the little tweaks I can do with the ROM.
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I was the same way when I first used a ROM that showed % drops so part of it may just be the fact that you're keeping a closer eye on the battery life now. Once fully charged, these batteries will drain a couple of % even if it is still plugged in. That's why after five minutes of being unplugged your phone could have dropped 5% or more, it's simply "catching up" to the actual battery level.
But if you're noticing a quick drain after that initial drop then it's probably an app doing too much in the background. It is possible that the ROM/kernel/ROM and kernel combo is causing it, but I've never had this problem with any of Nils' ROMs even with the kernel he uses. (Tiny's is better though, in my opinion)
I have been using this ROM for about a week or two now and I am having an issue with the Friends widget. It will only set the default number on one person all the others go into my vcard and says set a default but it never stays set. Any suggestions???
Also can anyone tell me how to get the verizon backup assistant back. I know that I can use google for whatever reason I just prefer verizon. I have read a few forums but can't seem to find a solid answer. Also I am very new to this stuff so the more instruction from start to finish the better. Thanks in advance!!!
Is it possible at all with Nils Gingersense 3.0 or 3.5 to ever use fastboot, or is it completely out of the question (With the file being so large and all...)?
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lmbo im in the same boat with the 10 posts... is gay... yea this is part of getting my 10 done... im no noob!!!
Right...
gutiejor said:
lmbo im in the same boat with the 10 posts... is gay... yea this is part of getting my 10 done... im no noob!!!
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Yeah, what's the deal with that? Makes me feel like a lesser class being or something
you have less 10 posts. that means your good at following instructions.. and you know how to fix certain troubles on your phone..
So today I've installed latest MaximusHD rom for HTC One X, and everything is super fine, except for one thing - when I'm trying to connect to my Skydrive (using official app) while on Wi-Fi I just can't do it. After awhile it just says that I should check if I have a connection. The problem does not occur when I switch to Data Transmission. Other apps usually are able to connect but it seems slower than when using Data Transmision.
I have installed the WiFi update, and when using Google Play, or browsing the internet it seems to work just fine... I also switched from Superuser to SuperSU, but the problem occured before that so I don't think it had anything to do with that (noob question - which should I use? Superuser was there by default, but is ist actually better, or there is no big difference?)
Have you tried uninstalling and then reinstalling the app?
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Yep.
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Have you tried uninstalling and then reinstalling the app?
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I tried, it's still very slow.
Other odd thing is that when I turn on Data Transmission it's always showing the "H" symbol, even in the places where it previously showed "3G" or "3.5G", now it never switches. What does it mean? The speed seems fine though.
This happened to me too. And it's happening to YouTube and google play.
Could it be because I didn't do the OTA update?
In that case i have a little question: if I update the OTA do I/will it wipe all data?
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This happened to me too. And it's happening to YouTube and google play.
Could it be because I didn't do the OTA update?
In that case i have a little question: if I update the OTA do I/will it wipe all data?
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Well I did the OTA update almost right away (after intalling few apps), and I saw the problem after that, so I don't think it has anything to do with that although it's suppose to fix WiFi. Oh and it didn't wipe my data.
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Well I can't post in MaximusHD thread yet so I'll ask here, does everyone using this rom experience such a tremendous drop in battery life when using Data Transmission? On WiFi it's normal, but when using cellular it drains 5-10% in 10 minutes... That seems absurd.
bump. Seriously? Anyone knows if this problem with power drain when using cellular data transmission is also present in other clean Sense 5 Roms? Or is there a way to fix that, or maybe there is an update underway?
I just switched ROMs but was getting a full days use out of a charge. WiFi at work and home all day. So I never really used hspda.
Sent from my Avatar ROM that kicks buttski!!!
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Well I did the OTA update almost right away (after intalling few apps), and I saw the problem after that, so I don't think it has anything to do with that although it's suppose to fix WiFi. Oh and it didn't wipe my data.
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Well I can't post in MaximusHD thread yet so I'll ask here, does everyone using this rom experience such a tremendous drop in battery life when using Data Transmission? On WiFi it's normal, but when using cellular it drains 5-10% in 10 minutes... That seems absurd.
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Yes! It does this for me too. It seems to drain at something like 1% per minute for me when I have mobile data on. Wifi also drains it quickly, but not as fast. I posted about this in the Maximus thread (some other issues too) but nobody has replied. Good to know it's not just me.
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Yes! It does this for me too. It seems to drain at something like 1% per minute for me when I have mobile data on. Wifi also drains it quickly, but not as fast. I posted about this in the Maximus thread (some other issues too) but nobody has replied. Good to know it's not just me.
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Yep, hopefully there is going to be some kind of fix, I really wouldn't like to go through the whole configuration, app instalation, etc. process again.
Ok, so another thing is - some icons in one of the folders on my home screen disapear. It's always in the same folder, and only in this one, others seem to be unaffected.
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Yep, hopefully there is going to be some kind of fix, I really wouldn't like to go through the whole configuration, app instalation, etc. process again.
Ok, so another thing is - some icons in one of the folders on my home screen disapear. It's always in the same folder, and only in this one, others seem to be unaffected.
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Issues I'm having:
1. Crazy battery drain when I enable wifi, but particularly bad when I enable mobile data. I have a Tasker profile where if I enable wifi and connect to my home network, autosync and GPS are enabled for 2 minutes then disable themselves. Last night my phone was on 61%, I enabled wifi, and immediately it dropped to 56%.
2. When I go to bed at night I turn my phone off. If I put it on charge at night it gets to a certain point and the phone switches itself on! One night last week it switched itself on at about 89%, so I switched it off again, and about ten minutes later it switched itself on again!
3. I use Google Calendar, not the HTC one. I seem to be unable to disable the HTC calendar - the only option is to "freeze" it in my backup app.
Aside from these things, I really like the rom, but these three issues are making me wonder if I should try something like ARHD and see if the same things are present there.
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Issues I'm having:
1. Crazy battery drain when I enable wifi, but particularly bad when I enable mobile data. I have a Tasker profile where if I enable wifi and connect to my home network, autosync and GPS are enabled for 2 minutes then disable themselves. Last night my phone was on 61%, I enabled wifi, and immediately it dropped to 56%.
2. When I go to bed at night I turn my phone off. If I put it on charge at night it gets to a certain point and the phone switches itself on! One night last week it switched itself on at about 89%, so I switched it off again, and about ten minutes later it switched itself on again!
3. I use Google Calendar, not the HTC one. I seem to be unable to disable the HTC calendar - the only option is to "freeze" it in my backup app.
Aside from these things, I really like the rom, but these three issues are making me wonder if I should try something like ARHD and see if the same things are present there.
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Well I don't know how it is with the phone turning itself on, because I'm not turning it off to begin with.
The thing with calendar - it seems to me it was also like that when using official Sense 4+, so I don't know if it's fixable.
I think I'm going to switch to ViperX Sense 5 Rom, people seem to say good things about battery life in this one.
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Well I don't know how it is with the phone turning itself on, because I'm not turning it off to begin with.
The thing with calendar - it seems to me it was also like that when using official Sense 4+, so I don't know if it's fixable.
I think I'm going to switch to ViperX Sense 5 Rom, people seem to say good things about battery life in this one.
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Yes, I know some people think the idea of switching a phone off is somehow weird, but I turn mine off at night. As an experiment I just switched my phone off here in work, plugged it in to charge it (it was on about 93% - charged overnight and it has lost 7% since I switched it on when I got up for work at 5.30) and lo and behold it powered itself on when it reached 100%. I don't want this to happen.
The calendar on Sense 4 could be disabled - I know this as I had it disabled! I prefer the Google calendar, so I disabled the HTC one. On this ROM you can only hide it, or backup apps allow it to be frozen, which is what I've had to resort to.
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Yes, I know some people think the idea of switching a phone off is somehow weird, but I turn mine off at night. As an experiment I just switched my phone off here in work, plugged it in to charge it (it was on about 93% - charged overnight and it has lost 7% since I switched it on when I got up for work at 5.30) and lo and behold it powered itself on when it reached 100%. I don't want this to happen.
The calendar on Sense 4 could be disabled - I know this as I had it disabled! I prefer the Google calendar, so I disabled the HTC one. On this ROM you can only hide it, or backup apps allow it to be frozen, which is what I've had to resort to.
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Well then since nobody seems to know what to do in our instance, and I have no idea if there is some kind of update for MaximusHD underway, we propably will have to switch the Roms. I usually had the mobile Data Transmission turned on all the time when outside my apartment and while it did drain the battery more than WiFi it still was enough for 8+ hours of being on with medium usage (sometimes with battery saver option ticked when I needed to be outside for a longer period of time). Now the phone would be dead after few hours.
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Today I switched for ViperX Rom, and all of the issues I wrote about seem to be gone, Skydrive app no longer has any issues with connecting. Although I'll say something more about batery life in 2-3 days when I'll actually have a chance to see how it works. In general I can say that this ROM is a lot more customizable, and has lots of tweaks (greeat ones) I haven't seen in Maximus, but still I'll wait for a few days with my final opinion.
Ok so after using it for a few days I can tell that the ROM itself is just better in sheer terms of funcionality. First thing I noticed is that I can now put more than 16 shortcuts into Folders, the icon grid in app panel is 5x6 so now I have 3 pages to scroll instead of 7. WiFi seems work more stable but I can't say that it worked bad in MaximusHD. When it comes to battery drain while using Data Transmission - it's still there, but after a few cycles of charging it seems to get better bit by bit, if it still changes I'll let You know. ROM comes with lots of additional tools, and allows heavy customization, and reclocking the processor for better battery life. And that's just the tip of the iceberg. I don't know what about the phone turning itself on, because I don't switch it off. In terms of the callendar I also use gogle one and I just turned of sync options in the one provided by htc. Also I'm not sure if while installing the rom You are able to choose not to install the HTC callendar.
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Ok so after using it for a few days I can tell that the ROM itself is just better in sheer terms of funcionality. First thing I noticed is that I can now put more than 16 shortcuts into Folders, the icon grid in app panel is 5x6 so now I have 3 pages to scroll instead of 7. WiFi seems work more stable but I can't say that it worked bad in MaximusHD. When it comes to battery drain while using Data Transmission - it's still there, but after a few cycles of charging it seems to get better bit by bit, if it still changes I'll let You know. ROM comes with lots of additional tools, and allows heavy customization, and reclocking the processor for better battery life. And that's just the tip of the iceberg. I don't know what about the phone turning itself on, because I don't switch it off. In terms of the callendar I also use gogle one and I just turned of sync options in the one provided by htc. Also I'm not sure if while installing the rom You are able to choose not to install the HTC callendar.
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I've gone back to my old Orange-branded 4.1.1 / Sense 4+ build. Battery life has gone through the roof, HTC calendar is disabled, everything works, no problems. As for the phone powering itself on, well, something odd happened there...
When I decided to go back to the old build I restored my Nandroid backup and reflashed my old boot.img, taking the phone back to its old setup, and all seemed well, but that night I switched it off at bedtime (still find it weird that so many people think I'm freakishly odd for daring to switch my phone off from time to time) and lo and behold, some time later, it switched itself on again! The next morning I did some searching about removing the Clockworkmod recovery, followed the instructions, and also relocked my bootloader for good measure, and guess what? Since then it hasn't powered itself on while charging. So all I can gather from this is it was either Clockworkmod or having an unlocked bootloader that caused my phone to power itself on, because as soon as these two things were changed it has behaved normally.
So anyway, I'm going to stay on this build until Orange get around to releasing 4.2, or my contract expires in April, whichever comes first. Probably the latter, as according to a post I've seen from Orange themselves they reckon the update will appear 3-6 MONTHS after the manufacturer releases it.
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I've gone back to my old Orange-branded 4.1.1 / Sense 4+ build. Battery life has gone through the roof, HTC calendar is disabled, everything works, no problems. As for the phone powering itself on, well, something odd happened there...
When I decided to go back to the old build I restored my Nandroid backup and reflashed my old boot.img, taking the phone back to its old setup, and all seemed well, but that night I switched it off at bedtime (still find it weird that so many people think I'm freakishly odd for daring to switch my phone off from time to time) and lo and behold, some time later, it switched itself on again! The next morning I did some searching about removing the Clockworkmod recovery, followed the instructions, and also relocked my bootloader for good measure, and guess what? Since then it hasn't powered itself on while charging. So all I can gather from this is it was either Clockworkmod or having an unlocked bootloader that caused my phone to power itself on, because as soon as these two things were changed it has behaved normally.
So anyway, I'm going to stay on this build until Orange get around to releasing 4.2, or my contract expires in April, whichever comes first. Probably the latter, as according to a post I've seen from Orange themselves they reckon the update will appear 3-6 MONTHS after the manufacturer releases it.
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Heh I'm alson in Orange (poland), and we got info that the update will show up sometime mid-december. I just got tired of waiting for them to update that's why I ended up with custom roms.
Maybe it was CM fault? I'm using TWRP, tonight I'll turn it off and see if it powers back itself during the night and let you know.